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27 November 2012 2121 comments
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We ease ourselves into Gameweek 14 with two Tuesday night matches that, on the surface, promise little but may yet surprise.

It’s difficult to know what to expect from the clash at the Stadium of Light where Martin O’Neill’s Sunderland face Harry Redknapp’s new QPR “project”. Aston Villa’s meeting with struggling Reading provides the other distraction, a game devoid of established Fantasy assets but affording us the opportunity to assess the Royals’ potential ahead of the double Gameweek 16.

As always on matchday’s, our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to capture your views and emotions as the night’s action unfolds.

The team news finds Sunderland make two changes as John O’Shea fails to overcome the calf injury sustained against West Brom as Matt Kilgallon comes in; Craig Gardner starts ahead of Jack Colback in midfield. Redknapp is able to recall Jose Bosingwa to his back four, while Esteban Granero and Samba Diakite come into the midfield at the expense of Ale Faurlin and Shaun Derry.

Villa are forced into a change at the back with Ron Vlaar failing to recover from the injury that forced him off against Arsenal – Nathan Baker comes in to replace him. There’s also a change in midfield with Brett Holman getting the nod ahead of Karim El Ahmadi. Reading make two notable changes with Chris Gunter and Fantasy favourite Kaspars Gorkss making way, as Shaun Cummings and Adrian Mariappa are drafted in.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. MountainBeach
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    pick two

    bale hazard mata cazorla silva

    on bale and hazard atm

    was thinking hazard to silva or mata

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    1. DoobNoob
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      silva and bale

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    2. Blue-Ghosts
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      silv and bale

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  2. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Damn, Enrique is rising, i have to get him tonight, goodbye Leighton.

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    1. CravenA
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      13 years, 4 months ago

      Yep, let's do it!

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    2. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      will do the same probably, but gonna wait until after the game, it's not like 5.9 is suddenly extortionate for enrique

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      1. Drip Doctor
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        • 15 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        I can't wait with my transfer plans. Very annoying, earlier in the day, i thought i would get away with him not rising until tomorrow night.

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        1. applebonkers
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          • 16 Years
          13 years, 4 months ago

          fair dos. think it was camzy who once said players don't normally get injured which is true, normally you'll always be fine. i've never been bitten for like 3 seasons now, luckily

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          1. Drip Doctor
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 4 months ago

            I could always wait and get Gibbs or Wisdom instead but Enrique is looking soo good right now. Do you think he's nailed on? There is always Suso to worry about.

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            1. GREENDREAMS11
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              13 years, 4 months ago

              Hes looked really dangerous the last couple of games, Deff worth the risk imo. Just done it myself

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        2. CravenA
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 4 months ago

          Me neither. Now or never. Tomorrow there won't be enough dosh in the bank.

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    3. MJ6987
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      13 years, 4 months ago

      I'm waiting. Anything could happen.

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      1. Mind över Mata
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        13 years, 4 months ago

        Sensible I think. An injury to one of the Pool defenders and he'll be back in defence.

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        1. Damo.
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          13 years, 4 months ago

          Really don't think that matters he's still gonna be getting foward

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    4. Tuchap - Lurker
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      13 years, 4 months ago

      No way of waiting till tmoro?

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      1. Drip Doctor
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        13 years, 4 months ago

        Nope. Unless i go for Wisdom or Gibbs instead. Enrique looks like an excellent pick over the next month though.

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    5. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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      13 years, 4 months ago

      nah wait till tomorrow...what if he got straight red carded or injured...its only 0.1

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      1. CravenA
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        13 years, 4 months ago

        Then he's transferred out again - no biggy.

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    6. Animals & Scandals
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      13 years, 4 months ago

      I just did Rafael -> Enrique and it feels good.
      ManU have been really disappointing as of late.

      I have Raf playing one last game at home against WHU.

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  3. GlasgowFF
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    13 years, 4 months ago

    Berbs to Defoe straight swap?

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  4. UnderstandablyDistraught
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    13 years, 4 months ago

    Any thoughts on these possible transfers?

    1. S Taylor ➡ Wisdom. Free

    2. Michu and STaylor ➡ Morrison(wba) and Gibbs. -4

    3. Fellaini and STaylor ➡ Morrison and Enrique -4

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    1. The EJJ
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      13 years, 4 months ago

      🙂

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    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      13 years, 4 months ago

      wow can't even understand what eminem is even saying, he really fell off alot

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  5. Lavonious
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    13 years, 4 months ago

    Well the 4 point point hit to get Sess and Fletcher in was yet another ingenious plan,

    Any thoughts on what should I do about clichy? 0.0 in the bank 1 transfer.. Defenders are, Baines,Cuell,O'Brien,Clyne,Clichy

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  6. applebonkers
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    • 16 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    federici actually only made 4 saves. these were the 2 extra he's been given, notice anything:

    65:30 Jason Roberts takes a shot. Save made by Adam Federici.

    71:39 Jason Roberts takes a shot. Save by Adam Federici.

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    1. Granville
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      could be valid still. I noticed

      33:31

      Phil Bardsley takes a shot from deep inside the box clearing the bar.
      33:31

      Shot by Phil Bardsley from outside the area goes high over the crossbar.

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      1. Granville
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        • 16 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        52:23
        Adel Taarabt takes the chance to get an effort at goal. Blocked by Djibril Cisse.

        52:23
        Effort from 25 yards by Adel Taarabt. Blocked by Djibril Cisse.

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        1. applebonkers
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          • 16 Years
          13 years, 4 months ago

          yeah that's corrections they do all the time, just rewording. roberts and federici both play for reading!

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          1. Granville
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            • 16 Years
            13 years, 4 months ago

            Of course. LOL.

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        2. applebonkers
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          • 16 Years
          13 years, 4 months ago

          and cisse did annoyingly block that shot, annoyingly as he was standing just in front of cuellar

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    2. Dial Square
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      13 years, 4 months ago

      I fear something similar happened to Mingolet 🙁

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    3. bolekjaworski
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      13 years, 4 months ago

      if it was the halftime warmup I might believe it

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    4. Shipstontrev
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      13 years, 4 months ago

      doh!

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  7. Mind över Mata
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    I hate to take hits for defenders but my defence for the next few weeks is shocking:

    a) Baines and Nelson -> Gibbs and Enrique (-4)
    b) Mata -> Walcott

    Either of these worth doing?

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    1. Tuchap - Lurker
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      A sounds good. Not sure if the hit is worth it tho.

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    2. bolekjaworski
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      13 years, 4 months ago

      I think you like fine...maybe think about keeping the transfer?

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  8. Lanley Staurel
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    • 15 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    So given what we have seen of the clubs at the bottom who do we think will go down?
    For me it's QPR, Reading and Sunderland.

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    1. Animals & Scandals
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Reading, Sunderland and Villa or Southampton.

      I think Harry will turn things around. Slowly.

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  9. Owd Big 'Ed
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    13 years, 4 months ago

    OH NO.

    I accidentally forgot to save my team so now Puncheon is third choice on my bench and Sterling is in the first team instead! ARGH!

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    1. The EJJ
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      13 years, 4 months ago

      Oops.

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    2. GreennRed
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      13 years, 4 months ago

      OH NO! You've little to be worrying about.

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  10. MountainBeach
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    13 years, 4 months ago

    rafael > enrique?

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    1. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      already done

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    2. Animals & Scandals
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Yep

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  11. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    so it looks like I will be doing

    Mata and Jelly to Walcott and Aguero tomorrow for free, don't see the value in Sunderland attack, it's pants

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    1. Pigvig
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      13 years, 4 months ago

      Yup brought Fletcher back in as a punt. Not impressed and thinking of straight back out for either Defoe or Tevez.

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  12. Tuchap - Lurker
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    13 years, 4 months ago

    Guys would you rather

    Wisdom and Suarez
    Or
    Enrique and Giroud?

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    1. Jandal Tan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      B) based on fixtures

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      1. bolekjaworski
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        enrique and giroud....at least you have two guaranteed starters whereas with wisdom you never know

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        1. Tuchap - Lurker
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          13 years, 4 months ago

          Good point. Does anything change if I say I have caz ?

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          1. bolekjaworski
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            Well yeah, you look for another striker instead of Giroud...and depending on the amount of cash you have....you pick one 🙂 But for me atm Enrique is well worth the money...knock on wood

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    2. kennethrhcp
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      13 years, 4 months ago

      A... just

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  13. Captain Shirokov
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    13 years, 4 months ago

    Wow, just looked at my defence for next week.

    SHAMBLES.

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    1. Syd.
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      = lots of points

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      1. Captain Shirokov
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        Probably 😆

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    2. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      13 years, 4 months ago

      mine ain't much better

      Rafa, Baines, Huth, all away,

      Shorey, plays United

      Clyne, away at Liverpool

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      1. Captain Shirokov
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Pretty much the same defence bar Rafa, have Cuellar instead.

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    3. Mind över Mata
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Who are you getting Captain?

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      1. Captain Shirokov
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        I'll be getting rid of one of RVP or Baines if they both draw blanks.

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    4. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      13 years, 4 months ago

      Look at mine

      Baines, Kolarov, Rafael

      YOU ARE JEALOUS

      *compares rank*

      Oh, maybe not...

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      1. Captain Shirokov
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        13 years, 4 months ago

        Nope, still jealous 😛

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  14. Indalo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Mignolet
    Cuellar Rafael Nelsen
    Silva Mata Bale Sterling
    Rvp Berbatov Fletcher

    Begovic Nolan Cameron Gorkks

    1 FT, 2,6 in bank

    A) Save transfer

    B) Gorkks ➡ Nastacis

    C) Other

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  15. Mílanista
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    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Surprisingly, the guy who advised selling RVP for Agbonlahor(c) is being somewhat quieter about his bookmarks now.

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      if it had been Benteke on the other hand 😛

      Defensive mess up again, went Shorey 2nd sub over Clyne

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      1. Mílanista
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        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Benteke had merit. Agbonlahor has 9 PL goals since the start of 2010/11.

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      2. Mílanista
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        • 14 Years
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        With the Southampton defender's frequently getting negative scores you may be grateful for Shorey's 2 points.

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  16. Avon Barksdale
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    13 years, 4 months ago

    Trannys done lookin like this for next week.

    Begovic
    Enrique Cuellar Nelsen
    Mata Silva Bale Fellaini or Sterling?
    Van Pricey Giroud Berba

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  17. Dr Dream
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Dunno what happened to my last post...sorry if it's a repost...23 pts from 3...happy with that...Captain Benteke's one and only outing...

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    1. kennethrhcp
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      not a bad start! worried about rvp doing well?

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    2. megatronaldinho
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      i wudda deleted that post were i in charge. trumpeting your good fortune without a large side order of self-deprecatation is very untoward. try something like ' i got 50 points from 6 players with captain still to come. as is my wife, after fifteen years of marriage' that is how it's done

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  18. Make United Great Again
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Welcome Walcott & Suarez(yes he might be banned soon) good bye Berba & Santi

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  19. Licky
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    13 years, 4 months ago

    Begovic (wba) or Jussi (MUN)?

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      13 years, 4 months ago

      Jussi is CHER no?

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      1. Licky
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Damn, that may be worse.

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      2. ManUFan
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        13 years, 4 months ago

        yep correct

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      3. Pasqualinho
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        If he could turn back time

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    2. HVT
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      13 years, 4 months ago

      Mixed up mate.

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  20. meltedman
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    • 15 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Bottom of page..

    How do you reckon this looks for next week?

    Begovic
    Baines Sagna Clark
    Bale Nolan Cazorla Hazard
    Berbatov Ba Aguero(c)

    Gazzaniga Michu Cuellar Clyne

    Thinking to save transfer and then next week do Sagna/Ba –> Enrique/Fletcher. Fletcher would probably only be a 1 week punt for the dgw. What say?

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    1. bolekjaworski
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      atm Enrique seems a good punt...done it myself....as for fletcher I am not convinced, had him earlier and he did me right but atm sunderland are showing nothing...would go for someone else...long, benteke....

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    2. Jandal Tan
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      • 13 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Sounds like a decent plan to me

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    3. meltedman
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      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Thanks for replies guys. Let's see how Enrique looks tomorrow...

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      1. CravenA
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        13 years, 4 months ago

        Stocky build, bald.

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      2. bolekjaworski
        • 14 Years
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        exactly!

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  21. Call Me Old Fashioned
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    13 years, 4 months ago

    Cant get an outfield CS for love nor money this season. Sold Nelsen before the weekend, benched Davies on the weekend. Reading conceded late ish to deny a Shorey CS.

    Anyway, seems as if I need another defensive transfer for the weekend with my defence facing rea, wba, ars, CHE and MUN.

    Demel to Gibbs, Sagna or Nastasic?

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    1. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      I went Nastasic for tomorrow, City's CS potential is improving.

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    2. Jax
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      13 years, 4 months ago

      just get rid of demel now. why do you still have him?

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
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        13 years, 4 months ago

        more pressing bits and bobs to deal with

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  22. ManUFan
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    great scout pick of mignolet, got me 8 points + bonus

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    1. Make United Great Again
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      13 years, 4 months ago

      Same here!

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  23. MJ6987
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    13 years, 4 months ago

    Who to get in defence?
    Enrique or Gibbs?

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    1. meltedman
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      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Enrique

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  24. Blind
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    13 years, 4 months ago

    Just done Cameron to Enrique. It means I now have G Johnson, Enrique and Sterling. Liverpool's fixtures are just too good to not get heavily involved with their players till the Jan wildcard and there isn't much point in me having Suarez as the people I'm chasing all have them.

    I watch all Liverpool's games and Johnson almost scores/assists every week...he's got a couple of huge hauls in him, imo.

    Hopefully Enrique will keep his place in the front 3 for the sake of my FPL team, although I really think he's being overhyped by fans/pundits as while his power and directness helps the attack, he has little skill and constantly ruins opportunities by his sheer refusal to use his right foot.

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    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Agreed on Johnson and also Enrique. Masssive over hype imo. I would still like him though if he stays oop

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    2. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      13 years, 4 months ago

      3 Liverpool but no Suarez? Wow.

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  25. MountainBeach
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    is enrique nailed on as a winger for liverpool then?

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    1. Chu Young Ping Pong
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      As long as they're winning.

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    2. GreennRed
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      No

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    3. Shipstontrev
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      13 years, 4 months ago

      Wisdom RB, GJ LB leaves Enrique ahead of Downing, so yes.

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    4. CravenA
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      His manager likes him there and that's as good a recommendation as you're gonna get. Anyway, he's an attacking fullback when played in defence.

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  26. JK - Cønt ⭐
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    13 years, 4 months ago

    wow one guy in ML used his FT to do Foster to Ruddy, even though he's playing Bego

    What a waste

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    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Amazed (but not complaining) that Ruddy is rising again despite being a doubt... 😕

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    2. meltedman
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      13 years, 4 months ago

      Setting up a big upgrade transfer?

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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        13 years, 4 months ago

        with 0.9 in the bank? unlikely

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    3. Spike ⚽️
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      Hes got him in place for next GW and to beat price rise

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    4. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      There's never a good time to make a keeper transfer, I'm a fan of getting it out of the way.

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      1. CravenA
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        13 years, 4 months ago

        Especially when you can bank a mill by downgrading the injured Foster

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  27. Don Andres
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    Will Saylor or Barfa be fit for Wigan?

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    1. Spike ⚽️
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      No. Taylor out for 6 weeks

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  28. JK - Cønt ⭐
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    City attack worth investing in?

    The fixtures look decent, but it is City, they could go crazy on any given week.

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    1. Brookins
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Too much rotation threat in the forwards for me.
      Silva the only nailed on one, with what should be consistent attacking returns.

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      1. Shipstontrev
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        Silva for me too

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    2. Spike ⚽️
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      I think Aguero is the most likely to start but I'm waiting until they've played Man U before even thinking about Cty

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  29. MountainBeach
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    dont mind rafael > enrique if hes nailed on as a winger
    but ive already got suarez and sterling
    3 liverpool players? dosent feel right lol

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