[sbu_large_image] Dugout Discussion
13 January 2013 3356 comments
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Sunday delivers a double header of lip-smacking ties, as old rivals United and Liverpool clash at Old Trafford, whilst Arsenal host City in the four o’clock kick-off. With a host of big Fantasy assets on show, our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to catch the real-time yelps and cries as events unfold.

The team news for the lunchtime kick-off finds Sir Alex Ferguson opting for the experienced pairing of Nemanja Vidic and Rio Ferdinand at the back, with Jonny Evans reportedly missing out with a hamstring problem. Elsewhere in the United lineup, Danny Welbeck is drafted in, along with Shinji Kagawa as Antonio Valencia and the rather unfortunate Javier Hernandez drop to the bench.

Visitors Liverpool make just one change: Joe Allen comes into the midfield with Jordan Henderson dropping out. Andre Wisdom again occupies the right-back role, then, with Glen Johnson deployed at left-back. Both Daniel Sturridge and the returning Fabio Borini find places on the bench.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Red-United
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Someone did mention it on here (and so did Jamie Redknapp) but De Gea does have a habit of pushing the ball out to the opposition players. The defence could help him out a bit more though too.

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    1. The Light Knight
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      100% Rafa

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      1. Red-United
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Yeah, he was very slow to react on that. However, there have been a few similar goals like that throughout the season.

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    2. Kylos
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      In general maybe, but he was full stretch today, don't think he could have done much more in this instance

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  2. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Two scouse supporters on Sky hating that! 🙂

    Redknapp you mug laying into DeGea. Spice boy is seething.

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Souness is looking rough.

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  3. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    10 points on top with almost the full squad fit. Rooney Nani Ando coming back.

    😀 😀 😀 😀

    Walcott on the bench, but i hope he bags a hat-trick*

    *Not really, Diaby hat-trick would be perfect though.

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      There is only one player you need to keep fit

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    2. FPL Touches
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Haha great chance of pushing in at the top and opening the gap! 😀

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      1. FPL Touches
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        *on
        Pushing on.

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    3. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Nah, Tevez with a couple of oggies.

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  4. lfcserg
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Unlucky reds last 30 mins could of knicked a point with sturridge's couple of chances, needs to improve in decision making.

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      YOU BENCHED RVP AND PLAYED SUAREZ 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        🙂

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      2. lfcserg
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Meh its only fantasy football, 5 points difference who cares

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        1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Just reminding you of your bad decision 😉

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          1. lfcserg
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            Yea i was aware that there was 95% chance it could backfire, but an Ivanovic cs + goal with captaincy will make up for that this week 😉

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        2. NATSTER
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Salute you.

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    2. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Didn't deserve anything for that first half performance.

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      1. lfcserg
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Have to agree

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    3. Rafabio
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      If you mean Sturridge, that should come with game time. UTD got jittery in 2nd half when pressed, Jose took notes.

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    4. Wings of Steel
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Not to disappointed with that. Second half was good shame the second one conceded was poor.

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    5. Hakuho FPL
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      hahahahahahaha you really are a liverFOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      1. lfcserg
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        piss of tosser

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        1. Hakuho FPL
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          lol lol you still a liverFOOL though!!!!

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  5. o0Ash
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    "Vidic was offside"

    It took a few replays to notice it hit him at all, and in either case, that kind of offside call is virtually impossible to call with certainty. Jesus.

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      YEAH HE WASSSSS. Don't bother to post there are Utd fans all over this place. They don't care.

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      1. Kylos
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Well Wisedom could have been sent of and united have a penalty in first half

        swings and roundabouts

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      2. Orion
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Thnx Daniel,
        Hvala brate... 😉

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    2. DLL18
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Doesn't change the fact it was offside though does it?

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    3. Kylos
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I don't think he was, his body was level

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    4. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      He was offiside. Liverpool were unfortunate but United deserved to win that match.

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  6. Tin of Directors
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    I really like Phil Neville and must admit he co-commentated brilliantly today considering how big a Manc he is.

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Have you heard about the suspicious package at the emirates?

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      1. Tin of Directors
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        No.

        Not a trophy is it?????

        ;0)

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  7. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Lescott dropped again 🙄 Kompany and Lescott are proven to be Mancini's best duo from the last couple of seasons and they've done well this year. Baffling.

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    1. Tin of Directors
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Mancini is mental.

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    2. Porkmeat
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Lescott was always going to be dropped imo, will play against the physical teams.

      Nastasic can distribute ball better.

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  8. the Bap Chap
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Vidic 3, Evra 2, Kagawa 1 (in the mix Gerrard) (no one wants the 1bp)

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    1. Tatty Bojangles
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      But.....Robin? 🙁

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    2. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Here comes the tones of questions nothing for RVP? 😛

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        hahaha I told ya 😀

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        1. Tatty Bojangles
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          WHERE ARE MY RVP BAPS? I WANT THEM.

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    3. FPL Touches
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Ah no RVP 🙁

      Twas expected

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    4. DLL18
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Kagawa?

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    5. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      if nobody wants 1 bp let rvp have it 🙁

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    6. ILOVEBAPS
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Yuck.

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  9. Jeremiah
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Any transfer suggestions lads ? 🙂

    Bego (Turnbull)

    Baines - Gibbs - Shawcross (Demel, Cuellar)

    Cazorla - Mata - Michu - Bale (Puncheon)

    Berbs - Suarez - Ba

    Will probably wildcard after the DGW but unsure what to do with my team really. Any suggestions are appreciated 🙂

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    1. Wings of Steel
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Jesus man get RVP whatever you do. Its harder without him mainly for nailed on captain purposes

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      1. Jeremiah
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Iv tried to get him in but leaves my defence very very weak !

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        1. Keane There Dunne That
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          For the wildcard cazorla to fellaini/theo and Suarez to RVP. Simple

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    2. Keane There Dunne That
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      That doesn't even need a wildcard 😀

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  10. Hybrid.power
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Walcott, Sagna, I'm counting on you.

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    1. Tatty Bojangles
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      + lots.

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      1. Hybrid.power
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Wow. You benched Walcott.

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        1. Tatty Bojangles
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          I forgot i did that, thanks for reminding me i played Bale and Michu instead 🙁

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          1. Hybrid.power
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            In fairness, it was a tough decision for you. I wouldn't have liked to have been in your position!

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  11. Fancy Feet
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    RVP, although he is consistent he seems to not be cpt material. Now hear me out, you need him in your team since he is a constant source of pts but every time I have not cpt RVP he has scored a single goal or single assist and it has not hurt me. My point is trying to find the guy every week that will get the monster score could pay off massively since RVP is most captained every single week. ie not capt RVP every single week could be a differential in itself.

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    1. Kylos
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      What more could you want in a captain, at worse he scores, at best he has a monster

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    2. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      OK

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    3. .
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      And will fail 4/5 times, costing you points when RVP delivers and your 'monster' captain flops

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    4. Namtab Nomolos
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      You vice captain him though right?

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    5. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      He has 5 double digit scores this season. Just saying.

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Is that enough?

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    6. Tin of Directors
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Stopped reading at "he seems to not be cpt material."

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      1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        +1. He's the biggest "go to" captain since Ronaldo; bigger than Gerrard, Lamps and Drogba in their heydays imo

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    7. Fancy Feet
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I am going to cpt the suggested cpt in RMT and see how it works out for a few gws but I honestly feel let down when RVP brings in a single goal or assist most weeks

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    8. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I lost you at hello

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Is it me your looking for?

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        1. Lord Flashheart
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Jerry McGuire vs Lionel richy. Interesting.

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  12. Mílanista
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    RVP non-captainers, happy he got no more than 6?

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    1. mr messi
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Yes.

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        +8

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    2. FPL Touches
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Oh yes 🙂

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    3. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      No, I wish he scored hat-trick because I love the bastard! 🙂

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    4. PogChamp
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Yes. Have Gerrard too so kinda makes up for it.

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    5. Hybrid.power
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Yup. I captained Mata and a lot of my rivals went RVP.

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    6. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      No, I want the most points I can get.

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      1. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Even if it hurts you in the rankings?

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    7. The Chosen One...
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      No, wanted him to get 1 less than Mata

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    8. ILOVEBAPS
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      YEP. Rival captained him and had Suarez so i'm well happy 🙂

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    9. Kostja
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      as always

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    10. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      No. I will take 5 goals. Its all about points.

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      1. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        What if it damages your rank?

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    11. Super Swans
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      if u have him,its foolish hoping he gets less point...ofcourse more point is better...

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      1. Cilly Bonnolly
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Not necessarily. I care more about my mini league than overall rankings because there's money involved. I'm top, have RVP but captained Mata. My nearest rival captained RVP. Of course I'm glad he didn't score more.

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    12. Cilly Bonnolly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Delighted. Mata did the business and still (potentially) has ninety minutes to add to it.

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  13. mr messi
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    No Mert today. Looks like he'll have to go for the dgw.

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  14. Red-United
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Quick question before the game starts lads, which would you prefer out of the two for the DGW?

    A) Cazorla (-4 hit)
    B) Podolski (no hit)

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    1. PogChamp
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      B

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    2. PlayUpPompey
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Probably better asking after the game...

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      1. Red-United
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Not really, because then people will just pick the player who did better today.

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    3. ILOVEBAPS
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      B.

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  15. IamaBEAST
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    I didn't watch the United game. Were there any controversies???

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    1. Namtab Nomolos
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Statto showed up behind Fergie and they had a little chat.

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    2. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      apparently an offside goal

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  16. The Chosen One...
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    With Arteta out I presume Pod is on spot kicks? DGW sorted the if Arteta out for that......

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    1. The Chosen One...
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      *then

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  17. Ginkapo FPL
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Pienaar's 3pts are better value than RVP's 6pts.

    Essential?

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      He gained me a point on benched Michu so yes

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Lukaku would have gained you more

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        1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          you don't have Lukaku...

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          1. Ginkapo FPL
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            I will, I will

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    2. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      The beat value team leaves you rich in the FPL bank but not so rich in points.

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        I'm not sure he is even that good captain material anymore

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        1. Kostja
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          He is for the lazy manager, I would have been approx 60 pts worse off had I had RVP and captained him over the players I went for. Not even considering the points the extra cash has gotten me

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          1. Ginkapo FPL
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            Exactly, why should I get a dirt cheap defence just to get RVP?

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    3. blue cheese
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      No. Kebe 10 points 😉

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        🙂

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      2. Ginkapo FPL
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Wait for his baps, cant believe I missed that haul

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        1. blue cheese
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          You missed Kolarov's monster haul as well, right?! 😆 Oh, Gink ...

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          1. Ginkapo FPL
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            I had Walcott's 😀 and Bales 😀 and I will get Guthries 😉

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            1. blue cheese
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 2 months ago

              Well, good luck with that ... 🙂

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    4. Rafabio
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Activating WC now 😉

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        good luck

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    5. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      You don't look at value when you are thinking about getting possibly the highest goal scorer in the league.

      You look for value elsewhere, so that you can afford RVP.

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        I used to think that, and whilst I still believe tha majority of your team should be great value so you can afford to spend big on a few, I believe it should be to spend big on a few who are ok value rather than just RVP who is no value whatsoever.

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        1. Lateriser 12
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          When he starts, his PPG is close to 8.

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      2. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        This

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      3. Billy Gilmore
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Next season I might have another team (*gasp*) without RVP and see how I do.

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  18. Mikei
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Where is Rosicky? Where is the best creative midfielder from Arsenal?

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    1. Namtab Nomolos
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      It was his turn to wear the dinosaur suit.

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      1. kaz 96
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        haha

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    2. Hybrid.power
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I thought he had left, didn't realise he's still at Arsenal!

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  19. NATSTER
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    My closest rival has Evra and that's really annoying.. I might get him on my WC if budget allows.

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    1. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I think he has 11% ownership. I'm keeping Rafael, so for me it is a matter of doubling up or not 😐

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      1. NATSTER
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        I sold Rafael a while ago and have no United DF right now.. He's 1.0m cheaper and attacking too. I'd keep him if I bought him cheap.

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    2. making up the numbers
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Same here,
      I only forgive Evra cos of team allegiance in real life,
      but he is becoming FPL pain seriously

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  20. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Good to see Diaby back.

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    1. Rafabio
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Yup, pity as soon as he's back Arteta is gone. Diaby started the season really well...

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    2. FPL Touches
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Like Yaya but not as good...
      He could have been though.

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    3. NATSTER
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      +1

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    4. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      +1

      Really fond of him. When fit, he should replace Arteta in that midfield. Or push Santi wide to accomodate Diaby.

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    5. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      as a united fan surely not?

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      1. Rafabio
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Why not? His presence might help keep the lead at 10 😉

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      2. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Why? He's a great player to watch, and Arsenal are no threat 🙂

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  21. Elniñorules
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Any good bets for Ars v mci?

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    1. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Dzeko anytime gs

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  22. mubin
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    should i do ba to podolski for gw23?

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    1. Tatty Bojangles
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Probably, i might.

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    2. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      yesss

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  23. Red-United
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Seriously, doesn't Cazorla just remind you of Adam Sandler? Hard to take him seriously sometimes...well until he starts playing his sexy football.

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    1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      haha yeah I can see that

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  24. lfcserg
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Alright guys need dgw coverage (already used wc)

    Begovic - Bunn
    Ivanovic - Cole - Davies - Demel - Gunter
    Mata - Bale - Michu - Fellaini - Puncheon
    RVP - Suarez - Lambert

    As many others on here I had originally intended to do Mata -> walcott however due to his price rise I am leaning towards doing Bale -> Walcott and perhaps one of Ivanovic/Cole -> Gibbs and Puncheon -> J.Cole. I am also aware I should keep an eye on arsenals fa cup replay v swansea before deciding.

    Any other suggestions will be greatly appreciated

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    1. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      You benched Rvp.
      Dgw is NOT your problem.

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  25. Eboue
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    hi all does anyone have a bap link from yesterday? thanks- and sorry if this annoys people

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    1. blue cheese
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Pg 1 of stock check

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    2. Eboue
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      cheers guys

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  26. Thomass
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Ba's price has gone up since his move to Chelsea

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    1. Red-United
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Yeah...

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    2. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Up .6 since I got him on the 30th Dec.

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  27. dogtanion
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Welcome to my team Sturridge

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    1. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I'm not quite sold yet.

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    2. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Brutal finisher, had two good chances there to make it 2-2

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  28. Timmy Cahill Rules
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Ba and Gaston to Pog and Caz

    yes or no

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  29. MJ6987
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    13 years, 2 months ago

    I have been posting up WC drafts with Sturridge in for a couple of weeks. People said "looks good apart from Sturridge" etc. Watch him start to appear in other WC teams now!

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    1. Adam Lallana makes Messi lo…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      +1

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    2. Lord Flashheart
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      You are my hero.

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    3. Kostja
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I think he has no place in fantasy team for the next 3 weeks, just check out the fixtures. And he is still not 100% so minutes will be limited. I think there is no need to rush it

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    4. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I posted one last night with him in.

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  30. Rafabio
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Trophy sighting at the Emirates, Theo accepting one from EA Sports. Get in!!

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