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20 January 2013 4153 comments
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Sunday finds us camped in front of the box, preparing for a feast of football that delivers four challengers for the Champions League places. Proceedings start at Stamford Bridge where Chelsea host the Gunners as Arsene Wenger’s side get their double Gameweek underway. United’s trip to White Hart Lane then follows, with Fantasy managers facing the unlikely prospect of watching Robin Van Persie in action without their armband on his sleeve: Theo Walcott or Santi Cazorla being the popular choices this weekend with their two fixtures at play.

Our Dugout Discussion Chatroom is now available to collect your thoughts as we sit back and wait to see if Van Persie’s unerring consistency makes us regret that particular decision.

The team news form the early afternoon kick-off is hugely significant. As suspected, Rafa Benitez chooses to rotate his forwards, bringing Fernando Torres in from the cold and resting Demba Ba to the bench. Branislav Ivanovic also makes a return to the fray after a midweek rest: he replaces David Luiz amidst claims of a slight knock.

Arsenal are without both Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Lukas Podolski through illness, so they’re unchanged from the side that took on Swansea in the midweek FA Cup replay. That sees both Abou Diaby and Francis Coquelin in central midfield, with Jack Wilshere expected to push up in support of lone striker Olivier Giroud. Captain contenders, Theo Walcott and Santi Cazorla seem set to occupy the flank roles.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. SW6
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    R. Martin coming on instead Azpi for Luiz 😎

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  2. Drip Doctor
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    Giroud had a monster second half. First half and lack of options from the bench cost us. 4th place is slipping away.

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    1. Gaz Downright
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      6th u mean

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      1. Just Ruud
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        this
        we have been hanging on to 4th for too many seasons,this is the one that gets away from us.
        I hope AW finally realizes its time to re-evaluate his template..

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    2. The Finnisher
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      13 years, 2 months ago

      I dont get how you can stand him. Decent ball winner but the chances he wastes are ridiculous...and the amount of possession he gives up.
      Cant see us catching Spurs. Thank fook Sandro is out. Everton either if they start to get luck going their way.

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      1. Bad Seed
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        Agree on Giroud.

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  3. GreennRed
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    Mata is Alan McLoughlin's man of the match on Newstalk. Didn't see any of it. How will the BPs be split?

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    1. Tin of Directors
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      13 years, 2 months ago

      I only saw the back end of the 1st but the whole of the 2nd.
      Mata was no way MOTM IMO.

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    2. ★FC Borecelona★
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      Other than the goal he did SFA

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    3. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
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      would give it to ramires..... he's been awesome

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    4. GreennRed
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      He said Mata was class 1st half and no-one was outstanding in 2nd half. Should get 1 BP at least. Ramires's name was in the action a lot on the wireless.

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    5. Just Ruud
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      13 years, 2 months ago

      Lamps 3, Mata 2,Theo 1.

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      1. GreennRed
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        Cheers JT

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  4. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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    hope pod gets well nd explodes v whm

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    1. Buck The Trent
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      amen

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  5. Cheeseoid
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    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    On 44 points with 5 more to play. Hopefully it is looking like a green arrow for me. Seems like a long time since my last.

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    1. Vote Joke
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      13 years, 2 months ago

      I got 39 with 7 to play.

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    2. heeljames
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      13 years, 2 months ago

      46 with 5 left to play. Hopefully Gibbs will have a better game against West ham

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    3. Dial Square
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      46 with 7

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  6. Tin of Directors
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    As Saint and Greavsie used to say, that was a game of two halves that one.

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  7. Tim Canterbury
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    The formation was wrong from Arsenal. Cazorla not central enough, Wilshere too far forward

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    1. Thomass
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      This^^^

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    2. Just Ruud
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      agreed

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  8. Djerbil
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    13 years, 2 months ago

    Mata
    1 Shot
    1 On Target
    5 Tackles
    4 KP
    1 Yellow

    Lampard
    3 Shot
    1 On Target
    4 Tackles
    1 KP
    1 Shot Blocked

    Theo
    4 Shot
    2 On Target
    1 KP
    1 Tackle

    Calculate if u know How much ppi u get for these??

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    1. Pinoche
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      Who cares. I'll wait for Bap Chaps post.

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      1. blue cheese
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        ^^^^

        😆

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      2. Djerbil
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        Don't leave ur Workload on others

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    2. thetinkerman
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      Do you get ppi for recovered balls? Caz has 16!

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      1. thetinkerman
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        Also Mata has 10

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    3. OPTA FPL
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      Walcott in the losing team

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    4. jose-mourinho
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      obviously mata 3 from those stats

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      1. SuperOsçarBaby
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        he has yellow card

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  9. Piggs Boson
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    You don't need to have the power 5 to benefit from the Michu, Walcott and Mata points...

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    1. Smakies
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      +1

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    2. Viper
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      Bale & Fellaini yet to play...

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      1. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
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        +1

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    3. Messiah Hazard
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      13 years, 2 months ago

      I took your advice and benched Michu... Really thought Rafa would give Ba more time on the pitch...

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      1. Piggs Boson
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        Sorry to hear that dude. You're front 8 is too strong really, you need someone to bench 😐

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        1. Piggs Boson
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          *your

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    4. PogChamp
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      3-4-3 still looks more appealing.

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    5. Pasqualinho
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      13 years, 2 months ago

      But you do need to have 3 of them

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    6. Mílanista
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      • 14 Years
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      Last week Michu and Walcott got nothing, Bale, Mata and Fellaini brought the points. Having them all is returning nicely.

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  10. Give The Todd Some Love
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    13 years, 2 months ago

    Still think Giroud is better up front than Walcott

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    1. Drip Doctor
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      Easily. Did you watch the 2nd half?

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      1. Give The Todd Some Love
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        Yeah, Giroud played well, was unlucky with the header at the end

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    2. Lateriser 12
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      Definitely.

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  11. Piggs Boson
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    Who's better Giroud or Torres?

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    1. Tin of Directors
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      I'd rather have a dose.

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    2. Evs
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      13 years, 2 months ago

      Giroud.

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    3. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
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      13 years, 2 months ago

      difficult..... Giroud maybe
      he's new to PL whereas Torres....

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    4. SuperOsçarBaby
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      13 years, 2 months ago

      both

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    5. Chris_Fàbregas #DOOS…
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      I'd rather have Giroud pthan Torres. Giroud seems like a decent target man when Arsenal can be bothered to play the ball to his head.

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      1. Piggs Boson
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        +1

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    6. Call Me Old Fashioned
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      13 years, 2 months ago

      punch in balls or kick?

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  12. thetinkerman
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    Cazorla 1 shot on target 1 blocked shot and 16 recovered balls. Any chance of him sneaking in for a cheeky bonus? Or is it Mata Walcott Ramires/Lamps?

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  13. ipsilon
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    13 years, 2 months ago

    So, what are your plans on Ba?

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    1. Evs
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      13 years, 2 months ago

      Keeping.

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    2. Messiah Hazard
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      13 years, 2 months ago

      keeping him... Surely Rafa will come to his senses or someone will knock it into him that Ba needs more game time if Chelsea are going to win matches more...

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    3. BruLee2
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      13 years, 2 months ago

      Selling. Mata is enough coverage.

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  14. Lateriser 12
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    Arsenal fans being too harsh on that frenchman. He won the ball in the air about 7 times for them in the last 15 odd minutes.

    PS Thank you for Robin.

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    1. Pinoche
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      13 years, 2 months ago

      He is shite. Admit it pal.

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      1. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        13 years, 2 months ago

        Some players people love to hate. Same was with Carrick.

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    2. Give The Todd Some Love
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      +1 he's decent

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    3. The Finnisher
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      You wouldnt be saying this if you didnt have some strange man crush on him. The only decent thing he could do is win the ball in the air. Its not enough.

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      1. Give The Todd Some Love
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        13 years, 2 months ago

        They're we're worse players to blame

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        1. Give The Todd Some Love
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          *there were

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      2. 1966 was a great year for E…
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        It was good enough for heskey 🙂

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        1. Mílanista
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          Snap 😀

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    4. Mílanista
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      Heskey could have done that 😉

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    5. Chris_Fàbregas #DOOS…
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      I agree, Giroud looks a decent target man. Arsenal for some reason don't seem to want to put the ball on his head.

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  15. Joga Bonito®
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    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Points so far then lads?????

    43 + 8 on the bench to come in.

    RVP and De Gea still to play today and Theo (c), Demel, Wilshere and Sagna still to play again.

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    1. Viper
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      40 with Bale, RVP, Demel, Jussi, Gibbs & Walcott (c)

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    2. bennydebull
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      13 years, 2 months ago

      53 + 8 (davies) + Gibbs, Walcott(c), Caz, Demel, RVP. hopefully in the top 1k end of week

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      1. Joga Bonito®
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        Nice

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    3. Buck The Trent
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      13 years, 2 months ago

      30, with 8 to play

      RVP, Bale, Fell, Distin
      Walcott (c), Pod, Gibbs, Demel

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      1. Nice2Michu
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        13 years, 2 months ago

        31 with 9 to play
        Demel, Jaask, Baines, fellaini, walcott(c), pod, gibbs, bale, lambert

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        1. Nice2Michu
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          13 years, 2 months ago

          woops didnt mean to reply there

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    4. Elfozzie 42
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      13 years, 2 months ago

      36 with 7 to play effectively: Rafael, RVP, Lambert, Theo (C), Jask, Gibbs, Caz

      Assuming Arsenal turn up against West Ham, I'll be happy with mid-60s this week with bps.

      Kicking myself over playing safe and not doing the Berbatov to Fletcher transfer for a hit mind. Wildcard in process!

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    5. Portuguese&Proud
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      49 with 6 to play
      RVP, Bale Walcott (c), Sagna, O'brien, Jaask

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  16. Koflok
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    13 years, 2 months ago

    Lamps 1 goal, 3 Shots 1 On Target, 1 shot block
    Mata 1 goal, 1 Shots 1 On Target, Yellow Card
    Ramires 1 assist, 2 shots 1 on Target

    Walcott 1 goal, 4 Shots 2 On Target, 1 through ball
    Cazorla 1 assist, 2 Shots 1 On Target, 1 through ball

    Seems like

    Lamps - 3
    Mata - 2
    Walcott / Ramires - 1

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    1. Aditya K
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      13 years, 2 months ago

      Key passes?

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    2. Podge
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      13 years, 2 months ago

      Shot block is negative, same as off target

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  17. Royal5
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    13 years, 2 months ago

    People talking about Lampard nailed for 3 BP. Pens don't count as much as goals from open play.

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    1. Canadian Football
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      i think you might be incorrect on that one

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    2. Koflok
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      Defensively he had good contribution as well. 1 blocked shot 2 interception.

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    3. Podge
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      Yes they do

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  18. Bøwstring The Carp
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    Do we reckon ARS v WHU line up could be like this?

    Szcezsny, Jenkinson, Mertesacker, Verm, Gibbs, Ramsey, Wilshere, _____, Cazorla, Podolski, Walcott.

    If fit, Ox would play RW, or will it more likely Giroud will start again up front, or maybe Arshavin?

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    1. Djerbil
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Diaby and Giroud will be benched for Ox and Pod if they are fit

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    2. In Bale We Trust
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      Probably Giroud up front again. Wenger will want to get his confidence up.

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    3. CABAYE4
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      Think Sagna will keep his place. Ox and Pod in for Coquelin and Giroud, maybe Kos for Mertesacker

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    4. The Finnisher
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      13 years, 2 months ago

      Amazingly enough Sagna has played worse than he did today in weeks previous and still kept his spot.

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  19. Nice2Michu
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    13 years, 2 months ago

    Giroud, santos, squillaci, ramsey, gervinho, arshavin, rosicky have all been bad signings for wenger in the last few years and he also lost song, fabregas and van persie in that time... and he's the highest paid manager in the premier league

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    1. PogChamp
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      Painful summary there. But true.

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    2. Frank Black
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      13 years, 2 months ago

      Ramsey is a good talent...he just lacks continuity. The problem are the disposals of RVP, Fabregas, Nasri, Song and Clichy. And Arsenal's defense this year is too mediocre. The Gunners need a new and different manager.

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      1. Nice2Michu
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        forgot about clichy and nasri! you could say ashley cole aswell

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  20. Jeremiah
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    13 years, 2 months ago

    Hows this for a WC team ?

    Bego - Federici

    Zab - Gibbs - Wisdom - Davies - Demel

    Michu - Bale - Mata - Fellani - Punch

    Sturridge - Aguero - Rooney

    1.0 left, thoughts ? 🙂

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  21. FPL Daniel
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    13 years, 2 months ago

    Power 5 all as planned. Bale your turn. All eyes on u !!!

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  22. super zlatan
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    13 years, 2 months ago

    Thoughts on these trades for -4

    Ba and Walcott out

    Aguero and felliani in

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    1. Evs
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      Tricky, could work. Could bite you on the rectum.

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  23. Adam Lallana makes Messi lo…
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    bye bye Ba..... lukaku dzecko or sturridge in?

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    1. Canadian Football
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      13 years, 2 months ago

      Sturridge looks like the man

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    2. ogqozo
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      Lukaku's been bad vs Aston Villa, very wasteful. Dzeko - you know, it's not good to have a bench player in FPL. Too many 1 point games.

      Sturridge meanwhile looks great and I'm still wondering why the hell didn't I buy him this week... I must have forgotten.

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    3. Trigg ⭐️
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      13 years, 2 months ago

      Fletch not an option?

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  24. Gaz Downright
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    World Cup 2010

    A small country gets 4th

    and they play three incredible forwards - Forlan Cavani and Suarez

    crazy really... have you ever seen a better strike force in international football?

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    1. Canadian Football
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      The amazing thing is that they are can play together....not all "pure strikers"

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      1. Gaz Downright
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        that's also quite amazing

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    2. Koflok
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      Messi Aguero Tevez/Higuain/Di Maria/Lavezzi ?

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      1. Gaz Downright
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        fair enough

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    3. Evs
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      Ian Rush & Mark Hughes 🙂

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    4. Adderz
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      Messi Aguero?

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    5. SW6
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      Uruguay are hardly a small footballing country...

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      1. Gaz Downright
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        you're twisting my words

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      2. 1966 was a great year for E…
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        Most successful international team relative to population size ever.

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    6. CABAYE4
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      Sure Argentina could put put a better one if they got their act together.

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    7. Smakies
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      Messi-Aguero-Higuain

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    8. OPTA FPL
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      Ronaldo - Rivaldo - Ronaldinho

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      1. OPTA FPL
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        WC 2002

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    9. Namtab Nomolos
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      Giggs, Hughes & Rush?

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    10. Hotrod
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      Rivaldo Ronaldo and Ronaldhino World Cup 2002

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      1. Gaz Downright
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        OK - Uruguay only had one w*nker though

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    11. Nice2Michu
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      13 years, 2 months ago

      Villa and Torres WERE unstoppable

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  25. Clay
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    Worth getting Ba in next week? Will start against Reading I reckon.

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  26. Liastro ⭐️
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    Are we keeping Ba?

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    1. The Bandit
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      Well I am for now, can't speak for you...

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    2. Evs
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      I am.

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    3. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
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      nope....
      he's been awesome (P.S his first touch is master class )
      but game time and rotation gonna be too difficult to cope with

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  27. Clintymints
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    13 years, 2 months ago

    daviiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiddddddddddddddd luuuuuuuiiiiiiiiizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    I'll be having Benifer Davies points yeeeeeeer

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  28. Tin of Directors
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    13 years, 2 months ago

    They should call Mata 'Heineken'
    His beard reaches the parts other beards can't reach.

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  29. Jinswick
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    13 years, 2 months ago

    Is Wenger really the highest paid manager in the league?!!

    That's hilarious given our rigid salary structure when it comes to the players

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    1. Just Ruud
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      yep, crazy eh...

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  30. flipperallstars
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    Mini league head to head has closed up.

    Me 38-4 plus differentials bale and pod (or punch off bench)

    Opponent 44 plus joe cole

    Shame zab didn't go off a few mins earlier and there would be 6 in it

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