634x258 The Stock Check
9 February 2013 3755 comments
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Southampton register their first win under Mauricio Pochettino, with Jason Puncheon bagging the opener and Rickie Lambert chipping in with a pair of assists at St Mary’s. Edin Dzeko’s sixth goal in his last six starts proves no more than consolation for the visitors – the result means United now have the chance to establish a 12 point lead over their neighbours, providing they see off Everton at Old Trafford:

On the Up

Rickie Lambert
Having scored against the champions in Gameweek 1, the Saints forward once again highlighted his fixture-proof appeal by bagging a pair of assists. Lambert has now scored or assisted in six of the last nine and has moved to 128 FPL points – third best scoring forward behind only Robin Van Persie and Luis Suarez.

Jason Puncheon
The winger fired home the opener to underline his popularity as a cut-price midfield option. Puncheon has now returned four goals and six assists this term and has racked up more points than any other midfielder in the 5.0 and under bracket.

Edin Dzeko
Selected alongside Sergio Aguero for the St Mary’s trip, the Bosnian continued a strong run of form which has now plundered six goals and two assists in his last six starts. Dzeko’s somewhat fortuitous strike means he has produced returns in all six of those first-team appearances – at 7.4 in FPL, his mid-price appeal goes from strength to strength.

Steven Davis
Handed the role in “the hole” due to Gaston Ramirez’s knock, Davis grabbed the second in an impressive display. While his 4.5 price appeals, it’s worth noting this was his first start under Mauricio Pochettino – Davis has climbed off the bench after the break in each of the previous three.

Going Down

Carlos Tevez
According to Roberto Mancini, the Argentine’s omission was down to “personal reasons” with other reports elaborating further and suggesting family matters were to blame. Nevertheless, with Dzeko maintaining his run of form, Tevez could well face a task to regain his starting berth – he has scored once from Gameweek 13 onwards by comparison.

Matija Nastasic
The return of Yaya Toure allowed Mancini to shift Javi Garcia into central defence, with the teenager omitted from the squad due to fatigue. A run of 11 starts in 12 between Gameweek 9 and 20 had suggested he was all but nailed-on but with just 55 minutes game time in the last three, Nastasic’s minutes are lessening as the season heats up. Given his side’s somewhat spineless showing, Vincent Kompany’s return can’t come soon enough for Mancini.

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  1. Phaze 1
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Prelim GW27 team. Evans and Santon are not set in stone but I needed 2 defenders to replace Demal and Enrique with 10.7 to spend. What do you guys think?

    Federici

    Harte, Evans, Santon, Azpilicueta

    Bale, Walcott, Mata, Fellaini

    Lambert, RVP

    Bego, Michu, Sturridge, Davies

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    1. Spin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Sagna and Huth look good options

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      1. Phaze 1
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        I already own Bego and don't wanna double on Stoke. Sagna might come in. Thanks

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  2. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    repost
    anyone who has 5 dgwers including michu, who are now contemplating gw27 with 10 men? ......i am

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    1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Possibly.

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    2. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      yes. i cant see any great fixtures worthy of a hit

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        i can, but ill be holding johnson n suarez for the foreseeable barring injury....cant get rid of michu....so 10 men yeh with pog up front 😯

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        1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          pog has wigan, not too shabby. could be worse 😉

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    3. Phaze 1
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      if I had 10 I prob wouldn't take a hit as you likely wanna keep all/Most of your benched players now. The move was Michu out before today but I doubt most are gonna go through with it

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        aye, hes proved his point....if you got him at 6.5.....a forward in an attackin team, with midfield points........and youll lose 1m by selling, then hes basically undroppable

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    4. Vote Joke
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      I'll take a 4 due to price rises that will affect my long term plan. May do an 8 for the same reason. MAY

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  3. Zizou
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    midfield is

    walcott mata bale michu gerrard

    sold fellaini for gerrard and this week plan to sell michu for fellaini

    not sure what to do after michu's brace, should i stick with my plan

    thoughts?

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    1. Phaze 1
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Gerrard -> Fellaini?

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  4. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Was it a Mata assist?

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    1. Portuguese&Proud
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      well the ball passed between his legs 😉

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      1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Did his leg hair touch the ball though :D?

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    2. Phaze 1
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      no

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    3. Zizou
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      no

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    4. Messiah Hazard
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      He deserved it for the dummy...

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    5. Pat Mustard
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Negative.

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    6. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Not a chance. No contact 🙂

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      1. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        (Deserved one though 🙂 )

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  5. flipperallstars
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    31-4 so below average and only dropped 250 or so places, now relying on two games from Suarez (c), Gerrard and sturridge plus RVP and Davies. Hope I don't regret picking Gerrard over michu

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  6. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    If you got Suarez at 10.2 would you sell?

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    1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      and keep sturridge that is

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    2. Phaze 1
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Depends on what you plan to do with the funds

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      1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Get Rooney in for Suarez and keep studge

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        1. Phaze 1
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          If you don't have RVP then I like it

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  7. Podge
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Thinking of Davies and Henderson to Harte and Sissoko to field 11 next week, look ok ?

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  8. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Im not one to usually take many hits, but was wondering if it was worth doing Bale, Lambert and Evans in for Aguero, Fellaini and Enrique?

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    1. Phaze 1
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Wouldn't do it for a hit. Can you field 11 in GW27 with this move?

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      1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Sorry will post my team my original plan was just Enrique-Evans

        Bego/3.9
        Zab/Enrique/Davies/Harte/Dawson
        Mata/Fellaini/Michu/Walcott/Puncheon
        Rvp/Suarez/Aguero

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        1. Phaze 1
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          no way I take -8 to bring in those players. Just stick with the original plan imo

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          1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            ok just getting frustrated won my league last 3 years and finding it difficult chasing my leader down this season even though I have a far superior team value, he is about 40 points clear, he took a hit this week didn't bring in any extra dgw players but brought Bale in, seems like everything he touches turns to gold at the moment and I keep having points left on the bench, (Harte and Puncheon this week)

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            1. Phaze 1
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              I understand the urge to knee jerk. I've felt it most of this season but as long as you don't make any rash transfers you will usually see reason in a few days. Theres still time to make up ground so don't try and do it all in 1 week.

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              1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Sound advice cheers just not having Bale is worrying me knowing now my league leader has him.

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  9. Give The Todd Some Love
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    RP

    Have a midfield of Bale, Walcott, Mata, Taarabt and Guthrie. Should I get Sissoko?

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    1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      no

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      1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Yes if you can get rid of Taarabt

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    2. Viper
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      If you could get him in for either Taarabt or Guthrie then yeah. Otherwise, no.

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    3. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      if for guthrie then yes

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    4. Breadbin
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      He's better than at least two of those so I say yes.

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  10. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Sorry would be for -8

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    1. Phaze 1
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      hell no

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  11. Viper
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    After looking through my mini league, my 22 isn't as catastrophic as I thought it might be. Still need Gerrard to dig me out of this Bale -> Gerrard hole I put myself in 😀

    After looking at that Spurs game again, i'm extremely relieved it was only 15 point from Bale today! Could have easily been Walcott-esque..

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    1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      are you getting him back this week?

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      1. Viper
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Without even thinking about it! Its torture not having him!

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    2. Crazy Old Goat
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      I did the same and captained Gerrard. Really hope he comes through. Bale back in for next gameweek though. Was gonna do him for Michu as I'd like to keep Gerrard but I guess Gerrard is back out next GW.

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  12. mattyrobinson
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    When is the potential Everton blank?

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      GW29

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    2. Viper
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Gameweek 29

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    3. mattyrobinson
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Cheers.

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  13. Schwarzer
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Time to use my 2nd WC? No Bale or Mata has been hurting.

    Federici Jaaskelainen
    Enrique Davies Harte Clyne Demel
    Gerrard Walcott Fellaini Michu Guthrie
    RVP Suarez Fletcher

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    1. Phaze 1
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      you team isn't bad. 1 or 2 FT could get them in if you really wanted

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    2. Breadbin
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      6 outfield players likely to not play next week. Now is WC time if there ever was a time.

      Gerrard, Suarez, Michu, Enrique out + Demel, Guthrie.

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      1. Phaze 1
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        lol I forgot about the blank for a sec. It's W/C time

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        1. Schwarzer
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Thanks guys!

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  14. Fantasy-er
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Are any non-Suarez owners tempted chuck a few quid on him to score 2+ against West Brom @ 7/2?

    I'm considering it. Would definitely ease the pain if he does, as basically my whole ML has him (c).

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      1 goal, 3 assists....

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      1. Fantasy-er
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Now that would be painful.

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    2. Phaze 1
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      I did that with City today. The emotional hedge is starting to cost me alot of money

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      1. Fantasy-er
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        😆

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    3. Breadbin
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Bookies love these bets.

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  15. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    do chelsea definitely have a blank gw29? affects my thinking about lampard.

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Check the ticker.

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  16. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Bale is the best player in the league.

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    1. Give The Todd Some Love
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Please don't start

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    2. Podge
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      RVP, best mid though.

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    3. Alan The Llama
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      If he can begin to beat a player from a standing start, he could be Ronaldo good.

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    4. Phaze 1
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      RVP though

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    5. Breadbin
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Lloris is better.

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  17. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Ive got RVP

    i Was expecting a cracker from aguero who Again dissappointed.

    Might have to go down the Rooney + RVP path now...

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    1. Breadbin
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Is that your line of thinking bearing in mind the 2 Madrid games? Apart from missing Liv/Swa players you may end up with 1 or 0 of them playing against QPR.

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  18. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    megan fox is satisfactory......that is all

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    1. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      I agree. She is hugely overrated. That car bonnet scene in transformers over hyped her reputation.

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    2. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      im watching jennifers body............so im not really interested in her acting giggs 😉

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      1. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        I wasn't talking about her acting 🙂

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      2. Give The Todd Some Love
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        If you watch that, you will not think she's satisfactory.

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        1. Give The Todd Some Love
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Oh right, you are watching that! You still would. Without a doubt.

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  19. Viper
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Fellaini to get a brace tomorrow!

    He will get one at least anyway 😉

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    1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Sure hope your right

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    2. Phaze 1
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      he won't even play( I hope)

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    3. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Fellaini and RVP double please.

      #optimisitc #crapgameweeksofar

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    4. A.T
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      The bigger the game, the better he plays.

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  20. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Just realised:

    Mata's next 3 games are potentially: mci, WBA, ---

    Hmmm.

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    1. Phaze 1
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      what you wanna do about it?

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      1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Well I don't have Bale and trying to work out who to bring him in for. Just considering my options.

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    2. Reipas
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      City game won't be 0-0.. and Mata will be fresh.. they'll also demolish the baggies

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  21. Reipas
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Anyone remember Luke Young? 🙂 Do you think we'll ever see him playing Premier football or even League football? Any news regarding him in 2013? Just curious as a QPR fan

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    1. Breadbin
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Faking injury, drinking cocktails and laughing in the chairman's face for offering him £1,000,000 a month. 😉

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  22. bakayoko
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    stevie for a hattrick !!! fingers crossed

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    1. Breadbin
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      He'll be lucky to get 3 points against West Brom, let alone goals.

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      1. bakayoko
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        let me guess u don't have him do you ? its ok, different people deal with fear in many various ways

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        1. Muniains Tears
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          i would have got him if i did believe in him 🙂

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      2. Breadbin
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        I kept Bale so am sitting pretty with no Gerrard + Suarez, Sturridge and Enrique.

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        1. bakayoko
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          i put in gerrard for walcott and captianed stevie lets hope it pays off

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  23. Corrigan
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Colonel Shoe, I'm thinking of going with 10 next week and saving the FT. I like the look of Giroud and Fellaini, but playing the odds, I reckon they'll be a blank for GW29.

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      ive got to use the free to play 10 men and i cant do a -4 without losing ppl i want to keep......this was always going to be the headache with 10men + michu
      was kinda hoping michu would blank so i could get sissoko + fellani and play 11 for -4

      youre right about gw29, its going to be hit city if i dont play it correctly

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      1. Corrigan
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        tough logistics and quintessential FPL!

        mmm Sissoko has Soton who are an incredibly tough nut to crack as well.

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  24. Give The Todd Some Love
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    You'll probably say no, but
    Enrique ➡ Evans (meaning double United defense)
    Taraabt ➡ Sissoko
    (-4)

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    1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      I'd be sorely tempted.

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    2. Breadbin
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Full 11 out? No if not, yes if so.

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      1. Give The Todd Some Love
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Yeah, only have 3 DGWers

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    3. Pat Mustard
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Sissoko with 0 attempts today, he did play most advanced mind.

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      1. Give The Todd Some Love
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Couldn't watch the game today, did he look good? I'm confident he'll be a bit more dangerous against the poorer defences

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  25. Spencer
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Shall I wildcard. The following won't or are doubts to play next GW:

    Demel
    Davies
    Ramirez
    Michu
    Suarez
    Sturridge

    Only have 1 FT.

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    1. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Ramirez could be back and Demel might start. Just use your FT to rid yourself of a DGWer

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    2. Pat Mustard
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Do not.

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    3. Namtab Nomolos
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Unless it starts costing more than 8 points then I wouldn't consider wildcarding for that.

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      1. Spencer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Thanks guys

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  26. Blue-Ghosts
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    53RD IN THE WORLD! 😀 might get a mention on the scoutcast soon! still in the cup aswell! i might email jonty

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    1. Demí
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Get a grav Tom

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      1. Demí
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Nice work btw!

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      2. Pat Mustard
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        🙂

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      3. Namtab Nomolos
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        We've got at least over a quarter of the top 50 covered so keep pushing on and see if we can up that 🙂

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      4. Blue-Ghosts
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        how do i change grav? ive tried a few times

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        1. Demí
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Give me your email and pw, i'll sort it.

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          1. Blue-Ghosts
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            haha i'll pass

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        2. Breadbin
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Don't do that...

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    2. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      See how you go at the end of the GW. Well done though, keep up the good work if you can

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    3. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Congrats 🙂

      Get in my competitions. 😉

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    4. Breadbin
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Not enough sob story for Jonty. He needs victims to feast on.

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      1. Alan The Llama
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        This. Have you ever saved a beloved pet? Any other superheroics? Btw, Walsall are 53rd in the football pyramid, do you think they get a much of a mention on Talksport?

        Other than that, congrats 🙂

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    5. A.T
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Well played Tom. Keep it going

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  27. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Michu - definite blank GW29
    Fellaini - probable blank GW 29
    Mata - possible blank GW29

    Want to get rid of one, for Bale. Gotta be Michu/Fellaini, right? Or can I leave it another week? 😐

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Michu blank? Midweek game.

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      1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Meant Michu definite blank GW27 😡

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    2. Muniains Tears
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Is this due to FA cup fuss?

      i have 3 everton, 2 swa and 1 chelsea player atm 🙁 Walcott too.

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      1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Yep. Ars v Eve very likely to blank.

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    3. Torched999
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      why does michu have a definite blank for GW 29? the league cup is 24th feb - gw 28.. or do swansea miss the week after too?

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      1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Meant GW27, sorry for any confusion!

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        1. Reipas
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          No harm done! The sweat has dried.. 😀

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  28. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    52ND IN THE WORLD! 😀 might get a mention on the scoutcast soon! still in the cup aswell! i might email jonty

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    1. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Don't be a dick

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      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        +1

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    2. Pat Mustard
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Liar, liar, pants on fire 😉

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  29. Cannon
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Hey folks.

    I got 32 points with a red ➡
    Just wondering what kind of scores and arrows did ye all get?

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Not important until end of gameweek. 40s mainly.

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    2. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      50 points a a solid green, finally 🙄 Its not over yet though.

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  30. Sz21
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Szez, Federici
    Demel, Johnson, Martin, Davies Clark

    Mata, Walcott, Fellaini, Ramirez, Nolan
    RvP, Sturridge, fletcher,

    0.8m in bank. 1 ft
    What early transfers should I consider
    sissoko in for Ramirez? Or should I get a liv player out instead?

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