[sbu_large_image] Dugout Discussion
28 April 2013 3187 comments
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Today’s three matches, on paper, present very different tasters of Premier League football. The day begins early with the lunchtime kick-off as the two basement clubs, seemingly doomed to relegation, do battle at the Madjeski. It’s uncertain just how much quality we’ll get from Reading’s clash with QPR, or which shade of purple Harry Redknapp will be by the end of it. Drama should be guaranteed, however.

Chelsea’s encounter with Swansea looks to have the quality to provide a suitable antidote but also has the potential to be a tepid affair. Chelsea may be feeling heavy legs after midweek European exploits and, if the Swans play keep-ball, we might struggle for fireworks. Owners of Michu, Juan Mata and Eden Hazard will be hoping for a goals and entertainment – it remains to be seen if either side will deliver.

The day reaches a suitable conclusion at the Emirates. The Gunners will be showing newly crowned champions, United, a guard of honour but that’s likely to be the only ground conceded. Arsenal will look to capitilise on Tottenham’s dropped points at the DW Stadium in their quest for a top four finish. Robin Van Persie returns to face the Gunners faithful and nobody is really sure what to expect from the Dutchman or, indeed, from Sir Alex Ferguson’s teamsheet.

Our Dugout Discussion is now open and available throughout the day to those who fancy dabbling in some real-time chatter.

The team news from the Madjeski finds Reading unchanged from the starting XI that lost out at Norwich. In contrast, Harry Redknapp rings the changes for QPR, with Nedum Onuoha and Armand Traore returning to the back four, while Jermaine Jenas and Esteban Granero are brought into the midfield. Jay Bothroyd is also given a start up front. Chris Samba, Tal Ben-Haim, Shuan Derry, Junior Hoilett and the injured Andros Townsend are those to miss out.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. cardoso71
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    Bale assist is important to the integrity of the game. He definitely touched the ball, it changed in direction and then hit the Wigan player to go in. Outside of the FPL it can't be called an assist, but in the rules of the game, it's 100% 3 extra points to Bale.

    With him being the number 1 captain choice this week, if the FPL didn't amend this, it would be the biggest mistake in FPL history.

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      +1

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    2. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      😯

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    3. jimnastics
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      With the Giroud phantom-goal the other week and now this, it could be the difference in my big money mini-league (main rival had Giroud(c) that week, I have Bale(c) this week). I will not be a happy bunny if the assist isn't given.

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      1. Cilly Bonnolly
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 days ago

        Same. Nearest rival captained Giroud then, I've captained Bale now. As it happens, I'm a hundred points ahead so not likely to matter much but still.

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    4. Tim Canterbury
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      The number 1 captain choice? Most people captained RVP

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    5. asap
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      If it wud b Rvp instead of Bale ,v cud have got an assist by now.

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      1. Jude Rooney
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 10 days ago

        Grow up..

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    6. Jude Rooney
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      Stop whinging and get over it....

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      1. cardoso71
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 10 days ago

        Rules are rules.

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  2. kaz 96
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    Sorry, i can't help it, but his comments @ the of the Guard of Honor were hilarious

    https://twitter.com/piersmorgan

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    1. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      He is a knob. I've met more mature 5 year-olds.

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    2. trikster102
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      -1 for making me go on piers morgans twitter 🙁

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    3. CarelessGenius©
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      Shame on you Kaz.
      Now go flagellate yourself with a copy of Katie Price's last book.....

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    4. COMH
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      He is an angry man who wants to make everything about him.

      He is an attention whore. Maybe why you like him so much.

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  3. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    best 4.1 defender for dgw

    or

    get dawson for 4.4 and take another hit to get dgw

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    1. Beautiful Game
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      stam???

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    2. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      I wouldn't bother with Dawson, especially not for a hit.

      Ronnie Stam could be a good shout, had decent stats earlier in the season

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  4. jbasma
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    anyone know why mata isn't given the assist for the penalty goal?

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    1. wuafs
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      will be given later.

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      1. Jude Rooney
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 10 days ago

        100% unfortunately

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    2. asap
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      take it easy,he'll be given

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  5. wuafs
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    Repost:

    42 for now. Bale(C) and have Mata.

    Above average or below?

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    1. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      Above i think there was massive hits taken this gw so i recon green arrow

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  6. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    Is Mata due an assist? 😕

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    1. jimnastics
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      Yep, 100%, he was fouled for the peno. Peno assists often get added later.

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      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 days ago

        I know they usually get added after the whistle, but this is a bit late...

        #BaleGate #MataGate

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  7. Lord Flashheart
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    What was the "cheat" part of united today? Missed the game

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    1. New Ghost
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      Nothing. Ronh is just riling up the United fans.

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    2. Bad Pen
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      There wasn't, if anything Arsenal got lucky with Walcott being just offside for his goal.

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  8. Moyo1
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    guys how nailed on is Milner starting both games in the DGW?

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    1. wuafs
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      unlikely i think.

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  9. r0nh
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    The FA are all Utd fans!

    The refs are under special instructions for the Utd games.

    Oh what a surprise... yet ANOTHER Utd penalty!!! 🙄

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    Here fishy fishy...

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    1. kaz 96
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      +rep

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    2. jimnastics
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      hehe you are funny, it's like being back at primary school with you kids on here 🙂

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    3. thegame
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      no red cards ags manu this season
      no penalties conceded either

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    4. Tim Canterbury
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      +rep

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    5. Art Vandelay
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      -rep

      How do you explain the offside Arsenal goal and Sagna not being sent of then?

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      1. Lawrø
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 days ago

        Ronh, you've got a bite.

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      2. r0nh
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 days ago

        How can you explain Utd getting the most penalties almost every season.

        No penalties against them, all season?!!!

        The FA are Utd directors!!

        Helloooooooooooooo

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    6. Les Bleus
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      You obviously did not watch the game

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      1. Lawrø
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 days ago

        and another, you're an excellent fisherman.

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    7. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      😀 😀

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  10. Ógie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    I have a pain in my side laughing at the amount of people that took big -8 -12 hits and got low scores 😆

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    1. Plymouth
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      Oh yeah? Check mine 😀 If you deduct the minus, i got like 15 pts or smtn, fantastic!

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    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      you are easily amused

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    3. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      Really? Don't think I've ever laughed about someone else's fpl decisions.

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    4. Beautiful Game
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      i think they might get the reward in the nxt gamewk!!!

      btw i took a 16 point hit and got 60 and also have mata and bale(c)

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      1. Ógie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 10 days ago

        Pitty your rank is shite

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    5. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      Some of your posts have been a bit troll-ish this weekend.

      I should have bookmarked your posts a few weeks back insisting that Walcott would play when Wenger had already confirmed he was out.

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      1. Ógie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 10 days ago

        Ya go tell your moma about it

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        1. Mílanista
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 10 days ago

          Brilliant riposte, I'd expect nothing better from a cretin.

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  11. @FPLStrategist
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    Give me all my Bale and mata points now!!!!!!

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    1. CarelessGenius©
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      Yes.....where r my mata assisty points?
      Extra bale would be nice.
      Theo baps too...
      Greedy monkey that I am.

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  12. sneif4
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    Is it worth a -8 hit to do this?

    DDG - Hart
    Enrique - Dawson

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    1. Yes Don
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      TOTES!

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    2. Trevor Cleaver
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      Hart yes, Dawson no.

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      1. sneif4
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 10 days ago

        I can't afford the straight swap though.

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    3. NATSTER
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      I'm keeping Enrique.

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  13. Chu Young Ping Pong
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    GB, Isacki, haxers, you here?

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      debuchy

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    2. onionbarje
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      yes make the room larger

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  14. MY DJ NAME IS PIMP CURRY
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    Do you think getting on Wilshere was Wenger's biggest mistake today? Rosicky was playing really well, and we clearly saw Wilshere wasn't fully fit. Maybe with Rosicky's creativity we could have got a second goal.
    Or am I completely wrong here?

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    1. Mile Plankton - Myth and Ch…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      You're right. He should've taken Ramsey off.

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    2. kaz 96
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      Rosicky had a few bad final balls but Wilshere definitely didn't add anything. Bringing on Gervinho was the mistake, imo.

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  15. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    afternoon all, is fellaini still playin deep.....?

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    1. Mile Plankton - Myth and Ch…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      Oh yes.

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 days ago

        bugger..... need to get rid then, dissapointing returns of late

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    2. The Shadow
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      Was for 60/70 minutes. Forward at the end.

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  16. Deano
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    Anyone got a YouTube or like link to Spurs’ last goal last night. When I watched the slo mo replay during the game there was no doubt GB got a foot on the corner before Boyce put it in.

    My understanding of an assist to an OG is its the last attacking player to touch the pill before it hits the net.

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    1. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      You are correct - we are all awaiting those in FPL Towers to give Bale his assist

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    2. Pasqualinho
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      There's a link in the text of today's Scout Notes article.

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    3. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      yep, should be a Bale assist. But the naysayers will start spouting rubbish because they're bitter!

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    4. Cilly Bonnolly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      By the FPL rules, it's Bale's assist. There is no argument. Anyone who claims otherwise doesn't have Bale or didn't captain him.

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  17. Yes Don
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    Who's getting BAPS from MUFC v ARSE?

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    1. Viper
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      Probably 3 for RVP, Walcott 2, Koscielny 1?

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      1. Yes Don
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 10 days ago

        sounds about right.

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        1. Yes Don
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 10 days ago

          Rosicky for the 1, I reckon.

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          1. MY DJ NAME IS PIMP CURRY
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 10 days ago

            Caz 1 maybe? Three-four shots on target...

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    2. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      No idea.

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  18. Viper
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    When are FPL going to add Kone, Defoe & Tevez goals?

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    1. @FPLStrategist
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      I know it's a disgrace to be honest. Hoping in the next 15 minutes.

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  19. Tim Canterbury
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    Be funny if Hazard got the assist and not Mata

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    1. Cilly Bonnolly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      Why would he?

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  20. SuperOsçarBaby
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    Koscielny is beast today! 🙂

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  21. ccc
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    44pts. What about you?

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    1. k.akshay92
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      43 pts (-4). No baps added. Average?

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    2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      more than that 😎

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      1. ccc
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 10 days ago

        Lukaku did a good job for you. Well done.

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    3. Viper
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      42 (including Mata's assist).

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    4. Lrf
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      53

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      1. ccc
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 10 days ago

        well done

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    5. ccc
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      I did not put in Mata's assist, but I did forget about my 8 point hit.

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  22. jbasma
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    RvP's last 6 goals: Penalty, offside x 4, penalty

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    1. Cilly Bonnolly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      What's your point?

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    2. Yes Don
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      You forgot to include the goal of the season in that little summation.

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    3. MY DJ NAME IS PIMP CURRY
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      Can anyone confirm this?

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      1. MY DJ NAME IS PIMP CURRY
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 10 days ago

        That volley wasn't offside was it?

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        1. Valar(Keith)
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 10 days ago

          was

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    4. jbasma
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      no point, just saying. And the 2, against Villa was a beauty.

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  23. BenjaniMwaruwari
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    Best 3 DGW defenders, not a goalie. Cash no issue. Go.

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    1. k.akshay92
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      Luiz, Kompany, Zabaleta

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    2. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      Vert, Luiz, Kompany

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      1. OptimusBlack
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 10 days ago

        +1

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    3. SuperOsçarBaby
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      Cahill Kompany Vert

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  24. New Ghost
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    Mata was very impressive today. I think I want to get him in to go with Hazard and Luiz.

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  25. Back to Back Ballacks
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    Has Bap Chap spoken?

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    1. Dynamic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      2 below.

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  26. @FPLStrategist
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    So I transferred out Walcott and Van Pweaiw yesterday.

    #tekkers

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    1. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      Interesting typo.

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  27. the Bap Chap
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    Van Persie 3, Walcott 2, Evans 1.

    all pretty tight and low scoring

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    1. Dynamic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      RVP and Walcott 😀

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      1. Yes Don
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 10 days ago

        +1

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      2. COMH
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 days ago

        +2

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    2. the Bap Chap
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      from earlier:
      McAnuff 3, Morrison 2, Green 2 (in the mix Bothroyd, Guthrie)
      Oscar 3, Lampard 2, Terry 1 (in the mix Ba, Hazard)

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      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 days ago

        Is that with the Mata assist thrown in?

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        1. k.akshay92
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 10 days ago

          This

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      2. jimnastics
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 10 days ago

        Might Mata be in with a shout if the assist gets added?

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        1. Valar(Keith)
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 10 days ago

          *when

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    3. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      😯

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    4. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      Noooooooooooooo!

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    5. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      YAY

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    6. Viper
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      Is RVP's 'block' taken into account here & would it alter the bps if it had been correctly given to Evans?

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    7. Plymouth
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      What about the Chelsea - Swansea game? 🙂

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    8. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      is RVP getting that because of the fake block?

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      1. the Bap Chap
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 10 days ago

        yep.
        Again though it's using 'penalty theory' too. The Van Persie ppi and the Lampard ppi should be good indicators if it exists

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        1. Back to Back Ballacks
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 10 days ago

          What's that? More or less ppi for a pen scored?

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    9. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      rvp always with the baps.....

      cheers bap chap

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    10. Kostja
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      RVP and Wally probably nailed on for 2 and 3 right?

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    11. k.akshay92
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      Is this counting Mata's assist or not?

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    12. Declan-
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      Lovely stuff

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  28. Dynamic
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    What do you think of this for this week?

    Baines/Fellaini/Berbatov -> Zabaleta/Hazard/Lukaku (-8)

    Thanks x

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  29. Granville
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    Impressive stat that United have conceded no penalties and no red cards.

    Strong defence and discipline is the key to being Champions..

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    1. Dynamic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      And a slight helping from referees...

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    2. r0nh
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      *big money bribes

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    3. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      We won't rise to that 😉

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    4. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      howard webb addition to the squad has really helped.

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    5. kaz 96
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      And refs in your pockets, obviously.

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      1. Kostja
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 days ago

        you got to try and get laid somehow. All this bitterness is bad for your health

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        1. Deulo10
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 10 days ago

          HAHAHA brilliant.

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    6. Pasqualinho
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      Going fishing?

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    7. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      You know what to do, Ron.

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    8. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      the no red one is extremely impressive, especially considering how some professional foul reds these days take just the slightest of touches of a player in front of you

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      1. Lawrø
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 days ago

        Evans versus Liverpool should've been sent off, there I said it, I was resisting the urge but you made me say it!

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      2. Granville
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 10 days ago

        The key to it was Scholes only playing a handful of games.

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        1. applebonkers
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 10 days ago

          lol

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    9. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      *tumbleweed*

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    10. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      Posting just like the captain of SA should 😀

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    11. LWO23
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      The best team should be among the leaders in most penalties drawn and fewest conceded. They have the ball more. They attack more and defend less. Above you will see suggestions of a conspiracy ... it is more along the line of common sense.

      But, as you've said, no penalties and no reds (in league play) is very impressive. Very disciplined.

      And ... I'm not a United fan. Just a fan of good football.

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    12. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      Not having any penalties awarded against you is not the same thing as not comitting any fouls in the box...

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  30. KakiBangku
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 10 days ago

    Mata or Hazard?

    Eden know which Juan to choose for the DGW.

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    1. ccc
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      Mata imo

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    2. turd ferguson
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      If your not chasing anyjuan = Juan

      If your eden towards relegation = Hazard

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    3. LWO23
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 days ago

      I think Mata as he is a bit more involved overall. But Hazard has stronger goal threat. I am going Mata because I'm leading my mini league and 2nd place has Mata. If I was chasing ... I would take Hazard.

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