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With the football season still more than three weeks away (24 days and counting), community members have been filling time tweaking their teams, pouring over last season’s statistics and still pondering how on earth they are going to fit both Robin Van Persie and Gareth Bale into their sides. We take a look back at some of last week’s Hot Topics and also find out the latest from our community’s leagues.

Hottest Topics

With the Bale and Van Persie discussions rumbling on, Matt decided to take a different approach to the debate. His pictoral look at the options for those considering one, or even both, really caught our eye. Meanwhile Lateriser12 has been wondering whether we can really afford to be without both, given the way they hog their respective team’s points.

Those following Triggerlips’ financial advice are unlikely to be able to afford both Van Persie or Bale. Referring to the first few weeks he suggests financial prudence, keeping money in the bank and protecting investments. This advice could be key to navigating through the choppy waters of the first few Gameweeks in the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) game and avoiding having to wildcard early on.

The Rate My Teams (RMT) are coming in thick and fast as the season launch approaches and Super Hans was on hand with some wise words, advising us to sometimes go with our gut instinct so that we don’t all end up with the same team – his post was one of the most popular this week, garnering 22 votes. Still on the subject of RMTs, PhD student Commonsns, who is studying online communities’ collective intelligence, has used his research to create a super RMT based on all our efforts so far. Among our own daily hot topics, we’ve also been looking at the etiquette of posting and responding to a RMT, urging those who are given advice to remember to thank their good Samaritans.

A lot of the recent talk had surrounded Everton midfielder Kevin Mirallas, who could potentially afford us an out of position if fielded in a front three. Toffees team mate Leighton Baines has been practically out of position for years but the arrival of Roberto Martinez and a possible change of tactics has seen the left-back somewhat overlooked. Luckily, Forca Inter was on hand to remind us that Baines costs exactly the same in the FPL game, is one of the Premier League’s most attacking players and benefits from potentially far more clean sheet points.

Another to take a more visual look at the Fantasy game was In Tommy We Trust, whose excellent analysis of the bonus point changes in the FPL game have led him to create a quite simply stunning interactive and colourful chart. We’ve been having great fun plotting the anticipated changing bonus point fortunes of players ahead of the new season.

Weston Wasters is another budding academic among us – he has kindly lifted his head from his text books to offer a slice of knowledge, this time regarding calculating player value. His ingenious musings went a long way to helping us find some potential underpriced gems and weed out those overpriced players along the way. On a similar theme Cromulent1 has been casting his critical eye over points per million as a way of calculating player value.

Finally, Absinthe, a regular during the deadzone hours of midnight to the early morning (UK time), has been taking a detailed look at defensive rotation and fixture difficulty. His mammoth piece of research was so big it had to be divided into several parts. Part one focused on two-way options, part two looked at the three way options, part three looked at the options for those looking for four defenders to rotate with two playing each week, and the final part looked at the trickiest of all the defensive options, the Uber strategy, which involves playing with an all cheap, all rotating defence.

Community Leagues

FFS UEFA’s Transfer Window Simulation (TWS) reached the second round of bidding for defenders last week. Top player in the round Pique was acquired by BonZ‘s Cardiff, whilst Berbagod‘s Sunderland staged a remarkable double swoop of Chiellini and Hummels. Even though Fulham, guided by PeppieandFelix still lead the game, Saniul‘s Everton are not far behind and Norwich led by The Shadow are turning into real contenders. It promises to be a very close contest at the top in the coming weeks. Submission of bids on midfielders and striker targets must be made by Saturday 2359 BST. Anyone interested can still sign up here.

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  1. r0nh
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Gary Hooper is going to Norwich!!!

    Must have!!! Coverage!! Differential!!!

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    1. Christina.
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      95 games.
      63 goals.

      😯

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    2. Sess!
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      If he comes in less than £7m I'll consider it. Will pass if not.

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  2. Squeakybumtime
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    @SkySportsNews: Sky sources: Norwich agree fee with Celtic for Gary Hooper and striker will have medical today #SSN

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    1. SH1M1
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      What is gonna happen to RVW now! 😮

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      1. Squeakybumtime
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Has a serious impact on RvW i reckon. Looks like two up top, will definately reduce RvW appeal.

        Hooper is great in the air, heightens the appeal of Snodders I think

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    2. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Sky Sport reported yesterday or day before yesterday that Celtic have accepted QPR's bid for Hooper. 😕 😕

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      1. r0nh
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Now they have accepted Norwich's bid...

        The player has signed for nobody yet.

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        1. samhcfc
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          He's obviously holding out for Hull city to make a bid.

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          1. r0nh
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 6 months ago

            😆

            They should.

            They need a decent striker.

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            1. samhcfc
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 6 months ago

              Imagine Hooper and Graham up front. We'd be unstoppable 😉

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              1. r0nh
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 6 months ago

                CL awaits!!

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    3. Squeakybumtime
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Certainly an improvement on Holt, Jackson and Beechio

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    4. The Artist
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      this is an EXTREMELY good piece of news vis-a-vis RvW.

      a few weeks ago i did some research and posted on here about how norwich's poor chance creation (among the worst in the league last year) didn't bode well for RvW, by all accounts a striker who's more of a finisher/poacher than an all-around athlete who can hold up the ball and generally do the things a striker in a 4-5-1 formation needs to do to prosper.

      hooper's arrival, if it means a switch to a 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 will have a knock-on effect on RvW's ability to score goals/set up assists. leave the hold-up play to hooper in the box and he can feed RvW the chances that norwich's midfield generally fail to provide.

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  3. Grounderz
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Chelsea's defensive records at home under Mourinho has tempted me to look at Terry who is just as much not as nailed on, despite being the club captain. They've got four good CBs competing for that same position.

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    1. Scroobius Mac
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      They've got one excellent CB, two adequate CBs and Gary Cahill.

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    2. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Yeah. I think Cahill is the best. Theoretically Chelsea's defence will be immense, but we need to know who he favours.

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      1. Sess!
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        He'll favour terry luiz, with terry being rested for easy home/away games and ivan moving to CB with azil coing in at RB. Terry/Luiz will def be the pairing for the big games imo. Can't see cahill getting a look in.

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        1. teddy.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Unless Mourinho can spot talent like I can...

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        2. Grounderz
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Same. I can't see Cahill being the most nailed on or a regular under Mourinho. As he'd done so working with Terry before, I think Terry will get the most gametime.

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        3. DD11
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          This

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      2. cassanata
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        I think Cahill is probably the most overrated player in the premership. No where near the standard of CB Chelsea need.

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        1. teddy.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          I think he's brilliant. Doesn't make mistakes. Always pops up in the right place at the right time. Understated brilliance.

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          1. Grounderz
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 6 months ago

            He is. He's done some eye-catching things, but I'm still convinced he's the last of that pecking order.

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          2. DD11
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 6 months ago

            Cahill is our worst defender. He doesn't read the game well at all and makes himself look great with last minute tackles and blocks that he should have sniffed out much earlier in the attack.

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          3. SuperOsçarBaby
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 6 months ago

            +1

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        2. Bare bones
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Agree, he is poor. Think Teddy is on the WUM

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    3. SuperOsçarBaby
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Chistensen, Kalas

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    4. Red5
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Terry would be great value if he were nailed on.

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  4. r0binh0
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    For those looking at an uber defence, how often do you plan to tinker with it pre Jan WC?

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    1. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Not at all, but will inevitably have to if there's injuries. Or if my picks don't get the starts. Or if better options emerge.

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    2. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Not once. But I'm sure that won't happen.

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    3. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      really depends on what happens with the players...

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    4. r0binh0
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      This is of course assuming that you make good initial picks that always play.

      What I'm getting at is does anyone look to adjust the teams in the uber as the weeks progress. For instance this season Soton have a nice GW1-11 but things get tricky from there. Do you plan to adjust for that?

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  5. Djerbil
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Damn it:
    Norwich has agreed fee with Gary Hooper..

    Now RVWolf not nailed on

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    1. Sess!
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      RVW was a shite punt anyway.

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  6. The Abyss
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Jesus, can't believe the lengths people go to work out what team they're gonna pick! I just could not be a*sed!!

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    1. r0nh
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      I concur.

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    2. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      TInkering is ok. But there's no real point in worrying about it too much at this stage.

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    3. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      great first ever comment

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    4. Sess!
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Ha ha, hard to argue against this. Think people just enjoy the fun of tinkering before the game starts and it's one transfer per week.

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  7. r0nh
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    I would be interested to hear how Man Utd fans feel about the new season.

    I don't think there is any doubt that City & Chelsea have the best squads.

    Id imagine City & Chelsea are favourites to finish 1st & 2nd this year.

    If Arsenal were to sign a super star forward & Bale was to stay at Spurs...

    Would Utd fail to qualify for the CL next year?

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    1. Infinite Sheldon
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Lol

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      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        ^ This.

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    2. Fray Bentos
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      To be fair united still have the same team that dominated the league last season, but without SAF things may fall apart quite badly

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      1. r0nh
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Don't forget RVP's injury.

        One man team n all!!

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        1. Fray Bentos
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Indeed, who are they going to rely on now? Rooney? 😆

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          1. r0nh
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 6 months ago

            Lingard apparently 😆

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      2. Infinite Sheldon
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        I don't think they will fall apart just because SAF has gone. Moyes will need time to put his stamp on things.

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    3. Squeakybumtime
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      I will eat my straw hat and post the video if that happens

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    4. Red5
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      No because Tottenham wouldn't be strong enough to overtake Utd. Utd finishing 4th is a realistic possibility though, especially if Arsenal sign Suarez and/or Rooney goes to Chelsea.

      As things stand I still make City and Utd favourites. Chelsea and Arsenal lack the strikers to get it done at the moment.

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  8. pundit of punts
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    RVW wagon derailed now?

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    1. The Artist
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      see above. just my own thoughts, but worth a think.

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  9. Alton E.
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    lol @ Coloccini

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  10. vova
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Will Hooper mean better prospects for Snodgrass? He will finally have two strikers who can finish.

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    1. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      One of the attractive things about Snoddy is the fact that he could well take penalties this season. Apparently Hooper missed a few and wasn't Celtic's taker, so Snodgrass still looks primed.

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  11. the Penman
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    This is great: wayward Ronaldo free kick breaks 11 year old Bournmouth fan's wrist.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-23443565

    That's some free kick.

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    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      And he gets a shirt as compensation. Woohoo.

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    2. Alton E.
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      i blame suarez

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    3. Pheeal
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Lol I read that earlier. "It must have been about 45MPH I predict" shyeah riight kid, try about 70MPH+

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  12. tw
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    what are your guys thoughts on fulham, sunderland, and newcastle defenses this year?

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    1. SuperOsçarBaby
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      fulham average, sunderland will concede 1 goal each week, newcastle good 😉

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    2. Infinite Sheldon
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      The same except Sunderland's is probably going to be worse under Di Canio.

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      1. Sess!
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        This is one of those falsehoods that everyone thinks if they say it enough times it must be true. Not saying we'll have an amazing def, but it'll be certainly better than people are expecting.

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    3. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Fulham has potential. Stekelenburg is a good keeper and Amorebieta should put some steel in there.

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      1. teddy.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Sunderland, no idea, but wouldn't put it past Di Canio to instill some defensive resolve. Newcastle should improve if they have no injuries. Not having the distraction of Europe should help.

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    4. pundit of punts
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      I expect Newcastle will be tighter at the back this season.

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    5. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Good to see you back again. 🙂

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      1. tw
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        thanks mate! I was on vacation in Hawaii for almost two weeks then I decided to take a few days off and then I got a new job so been busy with that.

        how have you been?

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        1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Fine.
          Happy about Tata's appointment?

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  13. SuperOsçarBaby
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Bye RVW 😉

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    1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Jk's plan shattered

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      1. Scroobius Mac
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Which one? 😉

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        1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          He was behind RVW the moment he signed for Norwich

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          1. Scroobius Mac
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 6 months ago

            JK has been firmly behind about 100 players and 35 different plans. You'd be more likely to find a player who hasn't at one point been in his draft teams.

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            1. Holy See
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 6 months ago

              😛

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        2. Billy Gilmore
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          No. 97,274 I think it was. Not to worry, he's got another dozen or so around Hooper now 😉

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      2. SuperOsçarBaby
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        jk has plan 😯

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  14. nevins84
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Morning all...
    After losing my work league by one point, i'm back for revenge this season 🙂
    Just set up my team and think their really isn't any point on spending much time on my team so early which has led me to this question that i know you folks hold the answer to 😉

    Are players values rising and dropping already as people make transfer before the season start???

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    1. RVP fc
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      No

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      1. nevins84
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Cool i will leave it be then for a few weeks and let the transfers roll

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    2. Ings on the up
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Not till GW 1 deadline has passed

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  15. RVP fc
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Would everyone get hooper instead of synod grass for Norwich cover?

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    1. Gaz Downright
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      • 15 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      pardon?

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    2. RVP fc
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Snodgrass

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    3. Infinite Sheldon
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Why was that down voted?

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    4. Grounderz
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      I think the question should be - Hooper or van Wolfswinkel. Snodgrass remains in my squad.

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      1. RVP fc
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        2 Norwich attackers is a bit much after last years performance

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    5. the Penman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Nope, Snodgrass is still the better prospect. He'll be the one supplying all their strikers' goals, and might be on pens too. Hooper won't be.

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  16. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Cardiff City have made a 2nd bid €12m for Etienne Capoue.

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  17. r0nh
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Migs/Given

    Collins/Olsson/Kompany (Burner/Parr)

    Bale/Hazard/Coutinho/Sissoko (Thomas)

    HOOPER!!!/Giroud/Sturridge

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  18. The Light Knight
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Bye Wes 😥

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  19. Waldaz
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Every time a click on a recent comment, it says that the article has no comments. Is that normal?

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    1. McNulty
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      See a doctor.

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    2. SuperOsçarBaby
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      same

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  20. Dr Dream
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    I know nothing about Pellegrini...A lot of managers only rotate, or rest, their defenders (CB's)/keepers when the issue is forced, even if they rotate the rest of the team on a regular basis. Other managers just rotate them as with the rest of the squad (Rafa)...Which camp is Pellegrini in ?

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    1. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Seems like he was very consistent picking his back four in La Liga last season, especially in the CB positions with some rotation in the FBs, but he'll presumably feel more confident in his squad depth with City.

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  21. Bullet Tooth Bony
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Mertesacker or Nastasic?

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    1. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Mert

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      1. RVP fc
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Mert as more nailed on. He will play every week

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        1. Sess!
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Thanks for clearing up what nailed on meant. I would never have known.

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  22. r0nh
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    I am sure there are some actual EPL footballers that read this site, maybe even post on it.

    I bet they all love me & laugh at the rest of you guys.

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    1. r0nh
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      -20? 🙂

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    2. thetinkerman
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      That's exactly how it is Ronh. Who wouldn't love you?

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      1. r0nh
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Women.

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    3. hillbillypete
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      yeah, but they want to roast me

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    4. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      I think you can be certain about that RONH...As we all know plenty of them play FIFA13...and i'd bet just as many play FPL.....

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    5. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      You're not Ronaldo are you ?....or Ronaldinho ?

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  23. thetinkerman
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    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Balewatch update:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eslHEWsh5jQ

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      1. thetinkerman
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        🙂

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    1. The Light Knight
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      If you turn the volume up, you can hear him mutter "Sorry have to go speak to Carlo about my contract"

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      1. thetinkerman
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        😀

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  24. GoonerByron
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    As long as Toure is looking to be a starter, these players are 100% in my team... Anyone care to help me fill in the 3 blanks for 21.5?

    Szczesny - Lewis
    Nastasic - Toure - Clyne - Collins - Parr
    Walcott - Bale - BLANK - BLANK - Thomas
    RVP - Anelka - BLANK

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    1. Infinite Sheldon
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      How can you be so sure of Anelka?

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  25. Get up ya bum
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Wtf the feck. Help I've fallen through a portal and I'm stuck an alternate FFS dimension!!

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    1. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Never mind I'm back. It's all good fellas calm down

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  26. Baa
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Thoughts on Benteke?

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    1. Heisenberg:Crystal Meth Pal…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Big, black and strong

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  27. SuperOsçarBaby
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Chelsea launch new third kit 😀

    http://t.co/xGrwudkeZ5

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  28. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    A witty summation on Yahoo sports of the Torres/Carroll transfer debacle:

    "Only Fernando Torres and Andy Carroll stick in the memory for £30m-plus transfer fees that have fallen on their backsides, but that was a perfect storm of collective lunacy at opposing geographical ends of the country..."

    Perfect storm of collective lunacy. Says it all really. 😉

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    1. Infinite Sheldon
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      How was Abramovich to know Torres was going to flop that badly?

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Because he was crap for a while before he left Liverpool.

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