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18 August 2013 4717 comments
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Sunday’s two matches get underway with a Selhurst Park encounter that finds Crystal Palace host Andre Villas-Boas’ Spurs. Two hours later, Chelsea start their double Gameweek with a home clash with Hull City as Fantasy mangers brace themselves for an avalanche of points.

The team news from Palace finds Ian Holloway keep the faith with much of the side that won promotion from the Championship. Holloway keeps the new boys on the bench, with Marouane Chamakh and Jose Campana in reserve while the likes of Aaron Wilbraham and Scott Dobbie are handed starts. New signing, Dwight Gayle, does get his Premier League debut up front, however.

Visitors Spurs are without Gareth Bale but can call on the services of Jan Vertonghen who is fit to line up alongside Michael Dawson in defence. Danny Rose gets the nod at left-back as expected. In midfield, Gylfi Sigurdsson looks to be starting in the Bale role, with Nacer Chadli given a debut on the left-flank. All eyes will be up front, however, as Roberto Soldado makes his first start following his £26 million move from Valencia.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open and will be available for those who fancy live chat during this match and into the tea-time clash at Stamford Bridge.

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  1. JPeg
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    How long is Gibson out for?

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    1. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      a cuppa

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      We don't know.

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  2. Manilaman
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    People moaning about Hazard, but none of the midfield picks have done much so far.

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    1. Evs
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Nor me, not a pip.

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    2. PMC3
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      4-3-3 anyone?

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    3. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      True, but we didn't captain them for a dgw 🙂

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    4. Flicka
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Except for Silva. 😉

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    5. get_in
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      At least he showed up, bloody snodgrass

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    6. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Nolan

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  3. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    77 with cahill (c) torres hazard

    Vs

    67 with hazard (c) lukaku silva benteke to go

    Could be top of my league by Wednesday...

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  4. JT's Dog
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Thinking over idea that selling hazard instead of terry is better option. CS seem to give better chance of added bonus points . With Jose style Chelsea apply to sit on small lead

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      1. DRIZ ✅
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        terry will play less games than hazard

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        1. JT's Dog
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Based on what?

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            1. Berbalove
              • 16 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              Age and general fitness.

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              1. JT's Dog
                  12 years, 4 months ago

                  Jose love will out way tat

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        2. Declan
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Lukaku ➡ Pisse?

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          1. Evs
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            • 16 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Van Wolfywinkle for me 🙂

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            1. SPorting
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              Him or Lambo-rghini

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              1. Evs
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                • 16 Years
                12 years, 4 months ago

                Winkle.

                hul, SOT

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                1. SPorting
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 4 months ago

                  Wolfie vs Borat and McGregor?

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          2. SPorting
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            If I wasn't bringing in HBA, I might do that too.

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          3. DRIZ ✅
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            that would be an awful transfer

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          4. Jax
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            newcastle have two home games in a row. west ham and fulham

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            1. Declan
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              correct, I like the look of their next 4

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          5. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Southampton have best fixture.... Lambo

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        3. Mr Sarcastic
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Rvp in, but when?

          He's price will be something like 13.5 just before gw4 starts after internationals.
          Do you still dare to wait or just "knee jerk" him in before gw3?

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          1. DRIZ ✅
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            should have been in gw1

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          2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            14.5

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            1. jezza360
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              i havent got him, im going to be patient and not knee jerk just yet. his price will go up but nothing a wildcard cant fix!

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            2. Mr Sarcastic
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              lol, that's unfortunately true!

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        4. Mak_Gold
            12 years, 4 months ago

            A) Ivanovic -> Coleman/Zab

            B) Lukaku -> Bony/Lambert.

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            1. DRIZ ✅
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              lam

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            2. Konig Luther
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              i was thinking in ivanovic > coleman... but i see ivanovic gave me assists

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          • EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            From looking at the last training video from City.....Nastasic looks pretty fit to me

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              1. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
                • 12 Years
                12 years, 4 months ago

                What do you make of pelligrini comments. How will they effect silva?

                With a nice run of fixtures it's a shame they could just be rotation...

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                1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 4 months ago

                  yeah could be rotation...as far as defense goes.... i expect it to be the same....Silva shouldn't get rotated too much though, in my humble opinion

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            1. DRIZ ✅
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              may be lacking match fitness for first game though

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            2. JT's Dog
                12 years, 4 months ago

                Sure there must be pay per view website for those type of things

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              • EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 4 months ago

                I just might do Koscielny to Nastasic

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            3. Birdman Transfer
              • 12 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              I guess this could just be a release of pent up regret having not got them in the side for the DGW, but was anyone else really impressed by what they saw from Oscar and De Bruyne today? Obviously Mata and Hazard will get a majority of starts this year, leaving just one spot for the two of them in an average week. (I'd imagine everyone expects Oscar to win out unless for some reason Mourinho wants to slot Mata in at CAM... ) Anyone considering either player for the long term?

              Oh yeah, and 614 points with Messi, Zidane, Shearer, Beckenbauer, Maradona, Zico, and Jorge Campos to play. Is that good? That's good, right? Please tell me I'm good. Please?

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              1. JT's Dog
                  12 years, 4 months ago

                  That was like you just couldn't hold that dig in and it just slipped out amongst good point 🙂

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                • Berbalove
                  • 16 Years
                  12 years, 4 months ago

                  Oscar and de Bruyne looked very good, but was it Chelsea being very good or Hull being very poor? Hard to say, and the rotation fear will always be there. I'm for sure not going for them at this point.

                  You're team is fantastic, btw. YOu must have an impressive team value as well. Well done considering we're still in the midst of GW1.

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                  1. Birdman Transfer
                    • 12 Years
                    12 years, 4 months ago

                    Solid point.

                    What really stood out to me today was how aggressive Oscar was being in attempting to create chances for himself, not just getting in to the hole and setting up wingers or sliding passes in to men diving towards the box. Likewise, I wasn't expecting De Bruyne to be so involved in build-up play, but he made some really lovely passes at just the right moment to create a chance, and in some of those instances (including his goal, iirc) the ball ended up coming back to him in very threatening positions.

                    I think some of that will be continue regardless of the opponent, but I can also see some of that aggressiveness being diminished against stronger competition.

                    P.S. Gameweeks do not apply in the time warp where Messi is old enough to compete yet Maradona is not yet crippled by cocaine addiction.

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              2. dogtanion
                • 16 Years
                12 years, 4 months ago

                soldado due any bonus points??

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                1. The Other Mark
                  • 12 Years
                  12 years, 4 months ago

                  3 it seems.

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              3. Magico
                • 12 Years
                12 years, 4 months ago

                Weekend games and nearly all main strikers scored:

                Giroud
                Soldado,
                RVP
                RVWolf
                Benteke
                Bony
                Sturridge

                Rarely there is a week with so many strikers scoring.
                Well, there is the Lukaku disappointment.

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                1. Eoin
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 4 months ago

                  Just think of the Lukaku 'disappointment' as an added bap on Wednesday 😉

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                2. GreennRed
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 4 months ago

                  It ain't over yet 😉

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              4. Eoin
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 4 months ago

                Won't budge for a few days at least but those with both Hazard and Lukaku, who you jumping ship on first? Perhaps both? Think I'll stick with Ivanovic until the blank at least anyway

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                1. Caine & Co.
                  • 15 Years
                  12 years, 4 months ago

                  i'll stick with both and probably lukaku --> dzeko for GW3

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                  1. Eoin
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 4 months ago

                    I've never liked to bench a premium-priced player!

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                2. LOCO ABREU
                  • 13 Years
                  12 years, 4 months ago

                  i'm thinking haz and lukaku>lambo and mirallas, free up money

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                  1. Eoin
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 4 months ago

                    For RVP or something similar I'm guessing?

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              5. Doctor X
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 4 months ago

                Lads, need a little help picking the best striker for the next TWO WEEKS only. Who stands out to you as a replacement? Already got Soldado and Sturridge.

                A) Dzeko or Negredo (car, HUL) - Not sure about this one due to all the rotation.

                B) v. Wolfsinkel (hul, SOT) - Liked the look of him so far.

                C) Lambert (SUN, nor) - Proven. Probably competition from Osvaldo?

                Thanks in advance!

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                1. Grounderz
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 4 months ago

                  City forwards must be watched. Cardiff and Hull up next, simply an opportunity cannot be ignored.

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                  1. Doctor X
                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 4 months ago

                    But the rotation risk is f*cking high. 🙁

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                    1. Grounderz
                      • 14 Years
                      12 years, 4 months ago

                      Take Dzeko for instance, I'd gamble him for the first three matches if it weren't for the double.

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                      1. Doctor X
                        • 14 Years
                        12 years, 4 months ago

                        True. True. But now the Aguero lad is also fit. It's a 4 horse race for two spots. It's sort of like saying

                        City forward (100 odd mins) vs RvW or Lambo (180); both on pens.

                        Not sure what the best option is.

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                2. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
                  • 12 Years
                  12 years, 4 months ago

                  I'm confident that osvaldo won't waltz in and take over Lambert in the next 2 weeks. Surely?

                  It'd be a disservice to such a loyal player to bring someone in and displace him.

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              6. Derailed Bandwagon
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 4 months ago

                BAPS out

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                1. Tim Canterbury
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 4 months ago

                  put em away

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              7. SW6
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 4 months ago

                Will be watching City vs Newc very closely tomorrow.

                Lampard or Lukaku -> one of Dzeko/Negredo/Cisse/HBA/Cabaye/Silva/Navas

                Just need to pick the right one.

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                1. LOCO ABREU
                  • 13 Years
                  12 years, 4 months ago

                  dzeko and negredo can start tomorow but next week aguero?

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              8. The Other Mark
                • 12 Years
                12 years, 4 months ago

                I have a bad feeling in my gut telling me Hazard doesn't start vs Villa. All he needs is an assist in that game and I'll be fine with him as (c). 1 assist! Fall over in the box, damnit.

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                1. Rambo to the rescue
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  12 years, 4 months ago

                  And get yellow carded for diving would be the way fantasy gods work!

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              9. iron2010
                • 12 Years
                12 years, 4 months ago

                Terry or Toure to Coleman

                Plan was always Terry. But I still have a decent gw 3 team with him and I've got a feeling Jose is going to play him regularly. Either way would leave with without one of Liverpool or Chelsea defensive cover. I would keep both if it wasn't for the coleman rise and home game

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              10. Kerrazy
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 4 months ago

                hats off to those who took a punt on Oscar.

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                1. GreennRed
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 4 months ago

                  Not really. Sold him and Lukaku this morning.

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                2. Billy Bonney
                  • 12 Years
                  12 years, 4 months ago

                  Thanks. . . I captained him

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                  1. GreennRed
                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 4 months ago

                    Link

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              11. Eoin
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 4 months ago

                Dammit Oscar with 3 baps. Perhaps my last minute decision to bring Ivanovic and Mirallas in for Oscar and Koscielny wasn't so smart.

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                1. Declan-
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 4 months ago

                  It's ok so far. Only 1 point down and you don't have someone suspended

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                2. Old Glory
                  • 13 Years
                  12 years, 4 months ago

                  Why? Kosc is suspended, and it's not like Ivanovic/Mirallas got outscored by 15. And you still have a transfer to save on a defender.

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              12. Tim Canterbury
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 4 months ago

                I prefer the new BPS. The old system often automatically boosted the points of players who scored or assisted. It tends to inflate the prices of attacking players in all positions and makes the game a bit one dimensional. Now centre backs and holding midfielders have extra value. I like anything which makes the game more dynamic. A player like Vertonghen who will get you a lot of blocks as well as having goals in his locker is gold dust. On the days he doesn't provide the goods like today he could easily get you a couple of baps instead. Luiz will also be will be a good shout if he stays.

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                1. Oldman Unathletic
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 4 months ago

                  Its certainly made things interesting.

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                2. JT's Dog
                    12 years, 4 months ago

                    It has got me thinking already that big defences are good idea. CS are almost worth 5 or 6 points now
                    Maybe one week delusion but still

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                3. Oldman Unathletic
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 4 months ago

                  42 points with 4 to play. A little underwhelming so far.

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                4. PogChamp
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 4 months ago

                  Anyone considering, or already have, a front 3 of RVP, Benteke, Soldado?

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                  1. The Other Mark
                    • 12 Years
                    12 years, 4 months ago

                    How's the mid look for that?

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                    1. PogChamp
                      • 14 Years
                      12 years, 4 months ago

                      Something like, Oscar, Walcott and a couple of £6m. Coleman, Reid and Toure for defence.

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                    2. LOCO ABREU
                      • 13 Years
                      12 years, 4 months ago

                      kim and jedinak in there? 🙂

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                  2. DietCoke
                    • 12 Years
                    12 years, 4 months ago

                    The rest of your team would be non-existant.

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                  3. Yome
                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 4 months ago

                    I have RVP, Lukaku and Negredo atm. I am considering to do Lukaku -> Studge and then remove Negredo depending on gametime

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                  4. Declan-
                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 4 months ago

                    That was my plan until about Thursday but not anymore. I'm quite happy without Rvp atm

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                5. Mojo Rojo
                  • 13 Years
                  12 years, 4 months ago

                  Third defender for GW2 should be?

                  A) O'Shea - Southampton
                  B) Martin Olsson - Hull
                  C) Ward - Stoke

                  (ALL ARE AWAY)

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                  1. LOCO ABREU
                    • 13 Years
                    12 years, 4 months ago

                    b

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                6. FORCA INTER
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 4 months ago

                  seriously consider saving FT and benching Kosh+play 3 CHE against MAN UTD

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                  1. The Machine
                    • 12 Years
                    12 years, 4 months ago

                    I would do Kos> Coleman and Bench the Che defender in week 3

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                  2. Lovzat
                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 4 months ago

                    I can see Chelsea winning so why not.

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                  3. RoysCallerAnne
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 15 Years
                    12 years, 4 months ago

                    Me too.

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                  4. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 4 months ago

                    why not? a mourinho chelsea will not be walkovers against united

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                7. JT's Dog
                    12 years, 4 months ago

                    I am loving this new bonus points system, think its made up about 25% of my points

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                    1. GreennRed
                      • 14 Years
                      12 years, 4 months ago

                      It's a lot fairer. Gives you the sense watching a game that the best players on the day can be in with a shout. Will bring a few defensive midfield BPs soo, I hope !

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                      1. Red5
                        • 14 Years
                        12 years, 4 months ago

                        Could not disagree more.

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                  • The Machine
                    • 12 Years
                    12 years, 4 months ago

                    52 With Zabaleta, Lukaku, Hazard(c), Terry and Benteke still left...

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                  • Wirtzle Gummidge
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 13 Years
                    12 years, 4 months ago

                    66 with Hazard (C), Ivanovic and Lukaku to play. Im in a small league I do every year with a few mates. Thankfully they don't use this site as they all have 4-4-2 and are playing RvP.

                    As it stands I am 10 points clear of them but they have City players.

                    I am expecting a start from Lukaku and more from Hazard against Villa.

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                    1. Wirtzle Gummidge
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 13 Years
                      12 years, 4 months ago

                      Oh, 69 points, Soldado got me an extra 3 through BPS 🙂

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                    2. Mojo Rojo
                      • 13 Years
                      12 years, 4 months ago

                      Hazard was very ordinary today. Praying he does something against Villa and saves my gameweek.

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                  • ManofKent
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 15 Years
                    12 years, 4 months ago

                    Dear Mr Mourihno,

                    Please can we have Lukaku back at the Hawthorns for another season.

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                  • Hazardous
                    • 13 Years
                    12 years, 4 months ago

                    Bonuses were quick

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                    1. GreennRed
                      • 14 Years
                      12 years, 4 months ago

                      I think you can just see the top 3 in BPS column or work it out if there any ties.

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                      1. Hazardous
                        • 13 Years
                        12 years, 4 months ago

                        yes but soo soon after chelsea game yesterday sturridge altered quite a bit

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                  • DRIZ ✅
                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 4 months ago

                    who got the bps for chelsea hull?

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                    1. GreennRed
                      • 14 Years
                      12 years, 4 months ago

                      Oscar 3
                      Terry, Cahill, Cole 2 each

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                    2. LOCO ABREU
                      • 13 Years
                      12 years, 4 months ago

                      oscar3,cahil,cole,terry2

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