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Dugout Discussion – Wednesday

21 August 2013 3238 comments
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The final match of Gameweek 1 is almost upon us as Chelsea prepare for the visit of Aston Villa. Both sides arrive in good form, with the Blues easing past Hull at the Bridge on Sunday and Paul Lambert’s side sweeping aside Arsenal at the Emirates the day beforehand.

Jose Mourinho makes just two changes to his previous XI. In a huge surprise up front, it’s Demba Ba who replaces Fernando Torres as the Blues’ lone forward, with Romelu Lukaku once again warming the bench – with a trip to Old Trafford and blank Gameweek 3 to follow, the big Belgian can expect to lose significant numbers of Fantasy owners after this bombshell. Chelsea’s other change is as expected, with Juan Mata returning to the starting line-up after a recent thigh problem – Kevin De Bruyne is the man to drop out, with Mata expected to take up position on the right, leaving Oscar to tuck in behind Ba in a continuation of the 4-2-3-1 formation that started against Hull. Fernando Torres is left out of the squad altogether, after being selected to start on Sunday.

For the visitors, Paul Lambert makes one enforced alteration. Nathan Baker is sidelined with the ankle injury that forced him off at Arsenal, so Ciaran Clark comes in to partner Ron Vlaar in the heart of defence. Andreas Weimann and Gabby Agbonlahor flank Christian Benteke up top, with new boy Aleksandar Tonev warming the bench once again.

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  1. woodles
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    is getting either coutinho or a city mid (silva/navas) worth a 4 point it? which one? would be getting rid of hazard.
    sorry for common post

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  2. Epic Fail
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    New post for those jerky knees.

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2013/08/21/the-knee-jerk-wednesday/

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  3. Isco Disco
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    I decided to use the wildcard and this is the best team I could possibly choose:
    Mignolet (Davis)
    Jagielka Mertesacker Zabaleta (Chester, Ward)
    HBA Walcott Jarvis Snodgrass (Colback)
    RVP Soldado Benteke

    Your thoughs?

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    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      I think you should change your name.... And get Aguero

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      1. Isco Disco
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        I changed it haha, and thanks!

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    2. rumplestilskin
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Change your name and change Soldado....
      get a cheaper forward and a costlier mid

      Your name confuses us with someone else.... nothing personal though.... 🙂

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      1. rumplestilskin
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Oh... U did it already ..:)

        by the way.... Your forward looks delicious...

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        1. Isco Disco
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Thanks for the help!

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  4. LewanGOALski
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    OK, there will be a thousands of of questions about Lukaku replacement:

    - Lambert - he'd be most popular choice I guess, but Soton have just signed a new striker - Osvaldo. He may limit Lambo's minutes somehow, but I don't think it is the main "minus" of this. J-Rod or Ramirez to be dropped first IMO. But Lambo's potential can be cut, as Osvaldo will be scoring and assisting.
    On the other hand, Lambert should keep his penos and FK duties. And Osvaldo may not jump into the team just like that.

    - Giroud - as Arsenal haven't signed any new striker, he is the obvious nailed on one in the CF position. Plus as we saw tonight, he is on penos now when Arteta out. But Arsenal as a team is a main concern here IMO. Plus most of us have Wally and may not be keen to double ARS attack.

    - Dzeko - he was VERY unlucky not to score vs N'castle. He had 8(!) shots and he was really great in that game. But still there are other class players waiting in the line to get their chances. Especially that Negredo was good for that just couple of minutes and he was denied a right goal. But City is in an amazing form and fixtures are incredibly favourable for them. But will he start? If so, I doubt he will start both Cardiff and Hull games.

    - RvW - Hooper and now Elmander are knocking in the door for the spot. I can see some rotation here unless one of them shows some incredible form.

    - Bony - he has too tough fixtures for me for now. Plus he hasn't even been a starter in the opening game.

    Have I missed something or somebody..?

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    1. pit creature
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      RVP

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      1. LewanGOALski
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        not in that price bracket, ain't you think? ;>

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    2. FPL Touches
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Here's an upvote 😉

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    3. Agueroooooo
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Lambert is the first name on the team sheet you spaz. Hes the captain and penalty taker.. pretty much carries Southampton

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    4. Tactical Nous
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Sturridge please. Going with either him or Giroud and am leaning towards the former. Already of Soldado, Dzeko, Wally and Coutinho

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  5. Chu Young Ping Pong
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Hazard + Anelka -> Snod + Dzeko (-4) ??

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  6. Hi I'm Jose
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Excellent save by Fenerbahce Goalkeeper; https://twitter.com/VI_nl/status/370290717374951426/photo/1

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  7. Elly88 > KTR (Kevin The …
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Lukaku>studge done. Not looking at fpl again till gw2.
    *shuts down computer and pulls over the duvet.*

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  8. Jaswarbrick
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Koscielny > Zabaleta &
    Lukaku > Soldado (C)

    yes or no?

    my team: http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/4863/event-history/1/

    beware of being jinxed ^

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  9. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Time is nearly up for the hazard assist to be added 🙁

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    1. Jaswarbrick
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      what is the time limit? 🙁

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    2. LewanGOALski
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      pourquoi? 🙁

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  10. yanky
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    lukaku dropping in price tonight?

    lambert or wolf as a replacement?

    also anybody going for newcastle cover with their nice run of fixtures?

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  11. Jairzinho
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Well I've written in to FPL expressing my disgust. Dzeko... I can accept it. Hazard, well there's no two questions about it. A blatant assist.

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  12. FPL Touches
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Thinking longer term, would you rather be going into GW4 with:

    A) RVP, Soldado, Lambert, Navas, Shaw

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    1. woodles
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      A

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      1. FPL Touches
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Cut off second part of my post for some reason 😐

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    2. FPL Touches
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      B) RVP, Aguero, Weimann, Coutinho, Lescott

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  13. jonesy_in_the_laundry_room
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Chances of a dzeko start?

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    1. FPL Touches
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      He'll get 60 mins IMO

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    2. ccc
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      don't ask us, A LOT of us owned Lukaku.

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  14. stephenl15
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    8 point hit at this stage would be madness yeah??
    Ivan -> Zab
    Lukaku -> Aguero
    Hazard -> Arfa
    I need help anyone??

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    1. LewanGOALski
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      just 4-point hit will be more appropriate here IMO

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    2. FPL Touches
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      You can hold onto Haz for time being

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  15. ccc
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    From a few days back, putting me off get a City striker, much like we have been frustrated with Chelsea's strikers. What is your opinion on City strikers? Worth the risk or not worth the risk? Who perhaps is worth the risk?

    "‘We have four important strikers, that is why they are here in this squad but we have them for the whole season. I don’t worry who plays tomorrow or next Sunday. We have four strikers because I think we need four strikers. We will see who is the best for each match.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2395595/Manchester-City-boss-Manuel-Pellegrini-puts-trust-Joe-Hart.html

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  16. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Wellbeck a good replacement for lukukku

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    1. ccc
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      I would not, too unsure of his starts

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  17. svgcr
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    here´s my bias bitter analysis of hazard´s assist.

    THE RULES:

    Rebounds
    If a shot on goal is blocked by an opposition player, is saved by a goalkeeper or hits the woodwork, and a goal is scored from the rebound, then an assist is awarded.

    Own Goals
    If a player shoots or passes the ball and forces an opposing player to put the ball in his own net, then an assist is awarded.

    INTERPRETATION

    A rebound according to the rules is the same if the ball comes off the keeper or the post. In this case we have a rebound no doubt. The rule states "and a goal is scored from the rebound" doesn´t necessarily rules out an own goal.

    Now the key factor that determines the assist in an own goal is that the player was forced to put the ball in his own net. In this case the defender was definitely forced to score (by a rebound created by Hazard)

    If the keeper is the same as the post in terms of rebounds, then what happens in the typical scenario where the player takes a shot, the ball hits the post and then bounces on the keeper´s back and goes in? Only an own goal with no assist? OR AN OWN GOAL WITH THE ASSIST FOR THE SHOOTER

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    1. Saint Domingo
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Well said sir

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    2. Tommy J
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Would love you to be right. A couple of arguments to the contrary-there were two opposition players who touched the ball that created the own goal-this isn't covered in your synopsis.

      The goalkeeper saved the shot-I can see that where this is not good enough i.e. an attacking player then scores then the assist makes sense. However in this case it was a save that then had the misfortune to rebound off a defender. In this case I can see that the assister didn't directly 'create' the goal-it was lady luck...

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      1. svgcr
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        In terms of rebounds a ball off the post and a save are the same thing. So what happens in your opinion when the ball comes off the bar and hits the keeper´s back and goes in?

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      2. svgcr
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Points confirmed. So never mind. Damn

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  18. joinho
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Best Man City defender?

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    1. FPL Touches
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Zabaleta.

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      1. ccc
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        this

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        1. jonesy_in_the_laundry_room
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          +1

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          1. brianutd-why always we? 20
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 6 months ago

            Yep

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  19. The Shadow
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    So what rule are people saying gives Hazard an assist on a shot that was saved?

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    1. Tommy J
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Rule 4.3 subsection 2-he's in my team so we need it.....

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  20. jonesy_in_the_laundry_room
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    zaba

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    1. jonesy_in_the_laundry_room
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      fail

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  21. Super John McGinn-
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Going on holiday tomorrow so can't keep up to date with rises and fallers,
    A) Lukaku>Dzeko
    B) Cech>Mignolet Lukaku>Benteke
    C) WILDCARD

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  22. joinho
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Cole (out) - Zabaleta (in) worth a 4 point hit?

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  23. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    bugger no assist confirmed

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      that would have been 6 sweet points

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    2. brianutd-why always we? 20
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Baps in

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  24. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Should I keep lukaku and hope he plays or dump

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  25. jonesy_in_the_laundry_room
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    lukku -> soldado or dzeko (+2mil)

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  26. jonnybhoy
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    No Hazard assist then 🙁

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  27. EoinM
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Opta are reviewing a possible assist to Eden Hazard for the first Chelsea goal. An update will be posted here when a decision is made. HOPE

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      too late theyve confirmed the points on fpl

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    2. EoinM
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Posted 22.46 on fpl site. 50/50 still at this stage.

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    3. Tommy J
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      It is quite an important precedent.

      Common sense tells me that it is exclusively Hazards play that created the goal and so it would seem equitable to give him some credit......

      Problem is the rules they create.

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    4. The Shadow
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Are the Opta assists rules and FPL assist rules the same?

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  28. The Gambler.
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    wheres my hazard assist?

    Rebounds
    If a shot on goal is blocked by an opposition player, is saved by a goalkeeper or hits the woodwork, and a goal is scored from the rebound, then an assist is awarded.

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  29. Coaly
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    This is how my team looks for GW2:

    Foster (Davies)
    Lescott Coleman Shaw (Chester Ward)
    Coutinho Mirallas Hazard Walcott (Puncheon)
    Dzeko Soldado Benteke

    I am stumped as to what to change for GWs 3 and 4. Currently thinking

    A) Haz to Hernandez/Shelvey then Soldado to RVP
    B) Haz to Silva and Dzeko to Sturridge/Lambert

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  30. parkerdip
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Its not too late now they posted an update

    If it isnt an assist they should mention it

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