[sbu_large_image] Dugout Discussion
1 September 2013 5563 comments
Mark Mark
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With goals a premium from Saturday’s matches, we roll into Sunday with high expectations. Today’s fixtures certainly give us room for optimism.

Proceedings get underway shortly at the Hawthorns and Anfield, where West Brom go in search of their first goal of the season against a Swansea side still looking to get a first point on the board. Alongside that affair, we’ve the small matter of Liverpool’s clash with United – a match that hosts an array of Fantasy talent, not least Robin van Persie, adorning the captain’s armband for many.

Later today, we’re treated to the North London derby. A clash which rarely disappoints when it comes to goals and incidents. It’s fair to say that we’re expecting fireworks again, as Arsenal attempt to keep momentum after the win at Fulham, while Andre Villas-Boas’ side arrive at the Emriates with a 100% record and without a league goal conceded.

The team news from the early kick-offs is in and is as follows:

Liverpool make just one change to the side that edged past Villa in Gameweek 2. Kolo Toure’s failure to recover from a groin injury sustained in midweek allows Martin Skrtel to partner Daniel Agger in central defence as the Reds attempt to register their third successive shut-out of the season.

For United, Wayne Rooney is absent with a head wound – David Moyes has confirmed he will be sidelined “for a few weeks” with the injury. The United boss brings in Ryan Giggs and Ashley Young on the flanks and drops Antonio Valencia to the bench – Giggs’ inclusion looks set to see Danny Welbeck moved centrally once again after he was shifted to the flank to accommodate Rooney’s return against Chelsea last Monday.

Michael Laudrup hands Wilfried Bony his first Premier league start at the Hawthorns. Jonathan de Guzman drops out in the only change from the side that lost at Spurs last weekend –Bony, Ashley Williams and Jonjo Shelvey all recover from the knocks that kept them out of midweek Europa League action, with the Ivorian’s inclusion allowing Michu to return to his preferred role in “the hole”.

Steve Clarke makes three alterations for the hosts. Boaz Myhill replaces the injured Ben Foster between the sticks, Nicolas Anelka is back after being granted compassionate leave last week, while Scott Sinclair is handed his first league start for the Baggies against his old club – Graham Dorrans and Markus Rosenberg are the men to drop out.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now accepting vistors for the early kick-off and will remain open until the final kick at the Emirates.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. DF
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    34 + Jedinak.
    mmmmm......
    (c) vP 4 eva!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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  2. YankeeDoodleDandy
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    This Baps system is throwing me off... Mertesacker for 3bps????

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    1. Whazza
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      So many cleansheets.. Messes with the system

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    2. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      2

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    3. mvtaylor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      The new BPs are crap. Even worse than PPI.

      Bring back the FPL man in the stand.

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      1. Caine & Co.
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        This is awesome compared to useless ppi

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      2. Touré De Force
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Disagree wholeheartedly.

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        1. mvtaylor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Are 11 BPs or so from a boring draw really a good thing?

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  3. Whazza
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Glad I stuck with Giroud as my C 😎

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    1. Robareid
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Went with Soldado over him :'(

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    2. Evans
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      It was zabs for me

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  4. Just_Ty
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    What a boring GW, watching both big games in a row is even worse than my pathetic fantasy points...
    Decent XI on paper for next GW but really in the mood to activate WC...

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  5. bennydebull
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    30 points...

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Hello 😀

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    2. dr. Phil
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      30 (-4) jesus.

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  6. Plagued by indecision
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Yeeesh, another awful week. 34!

    I'm 3 for 3 in the bad weeks stakes and still outside the top million.

    Making a miserable period of my life even worse. Cheers!

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  7. Bubz
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Do I transfer in Sturridge or Benteke for Dzeko?

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  8. Touré De Force
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    So where are those of us that were planning to bring in RVP left? Carry on regardless?

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    1. jimnastics
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      A blank against Liverpool is hardly a massive shock is it? Could go nuts at home to Palace next game.

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    2. karankachiefs
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      That was my plan but I would rather have giroud and sturridge instead of rvp and brady!

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  9. Sif
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    I think all these BAPs for clean sheets are a rather ridiculous. Going by the point system If you assume a player is on for over 60mins each player gets 6 points for doing their job.

    Gk/Def: Clean Sheet - 6 points
    Mid: CS & assist - 6 points
    Fwd: Goal - 6 points.

    You can argue everyone should be trying to score goals but that's why more points are awarded for DEF & Mids. BAPs should be for exceptional play such as defenders scoring it assists, multiple goals, penalty saves etc. BAPs should not be handed out to defenders just for doing their job.

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    1. JWF
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      By your logic, you could argue that a striker scoring is just them doing their job and therefore they shouldn't get BAPs for it...

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      1. karankachiefs
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        I concur. Attacking threat should take greater precedence

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      2. Sif
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Maybe not... A game winning goal or a super strike. Bonus point should be bonuses.

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    2. Caine & Co.
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      And also not to forwards 'doing their job' with only one goal?

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  10. Tim Canterbury
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Always knew this would be a dodgy week. Season will kick into life in two weeks

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  11. The Machine
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    August Manager and Player of the month?

    My picks:

    Manager: Rodgers

    Player: B/w Sturridge and Giroud, this. I'd say Daniel

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    1. Rödallegabomb ᴿᴮ
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Ditto.

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    2. SuperOsçarBaby
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Mignolet

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    3. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I think though both got the winning goals, Giroud played outstanding for 90 mins.

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  12. Heels_Over_Head
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    did we learn anything about Lamela?

    fleet footed

    doesn't give up chasing down a ball

    can hold, but may hold too long

    anything else?

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    1. JWF
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Didn't get enough time on the pitch today...

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  13. Touré De Force
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    New BAPS are excellent. Really freshened the game up. The astute ff manager earns his corn here, adjusting strategy accordingly quickest.

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    1. PDM TOP 1,000 any Season rc…
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      What were the Baps for today's matches ?

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    2. mvtaylor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I have no problem with more BPs going to CBs and the like, I'll definitely be more likely to go 4-3-3 for the GWs ahead. I'm just fed up of 7 - 10 BPs being handed out every game instead of it just being 6.

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  14. hillbillypete
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    bit miffed about no bonus for Theo

    still, think ive just gone top of my main league...

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    1. hillbillypete
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      without RVP and takin a hit each week too...

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  15. PDM TOP 1,000 any Season rc…
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    I reckon a fair few have been eliminated from my 50+GW knockout League ...
    Was 160ish at the start of GW3
    Have you survived to GW4 ?

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    1. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I will be on 50-51 😛

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    2. Large Hardon Colluder
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      still there, just...........

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  16. SuperOsçarBaby
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    average points?

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    1. Touré De Force
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      36-38 I say

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  17. King Nemanja
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    To those who know the markets well, Sturridge or Giroud more likely to have a double rise in price?

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    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Giroud.

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    2. Caine & Co.
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Probably both but at least giroud

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    3. Snikiii
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Sturidge atm, but cant be sure, giroud performed not 15 min ago so people havent started transfering him yet, Both rising tonight either way though

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    4. Gigging Order
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Sturridge, but both should.

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  18. Rivaldo Izback
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Scout Picks attack: RVP 1 / Aguero 2 / Soldado 1

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    1. mvtaylor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Yours for the low low price of 34.5 million^*.

      * Price may be subject to net transfers over season
      ^ No refunds

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    2. Whazza
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      And Lambert on the bench: 2 points

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  19. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Money making question. Sturridge or Giroud? There is a possibilitty to keep Sturridge but not Giroud. If Sturridge is flagged than he will stop rising right? Also do we think Giroud will rise twice?

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    1. Rafabio
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Sturridge? Flagged? He's hurt?

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      1. Whazza
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Doubt for internationals

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  20. jimnastics
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Boruc / Mannone
    Terry / Turner / Ward / Coleman / Brayford
    Silva / Walcott / Coutinho / Mirallas / Cabral
    Van Persie / Anelka / Lambert

    1 FT, £0.7m in the bank.

    Mannon, Braford, Cabral not getting games.
    Coutinho, Mirallas, Anelka, Lambert continue to disappoint.
    Needs more Sturridge and Benteke.

    Wildcard time?

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    1. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Sturridge injured?

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      1. Kingston
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        So injured that he played today with the niggle. He'll be fine after the break

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      2. jimnastics
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        He injured his thigh in warmup yet played the whole game... I'm not too concerned.

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    2. YankeeDoodleDandy
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Yes

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  21. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Mignolet-Harper
    Zabaleta-Coleman-Collins-Ward-Brayford
    Coutinho-Silva-Walcott-Mirallas-Kim
    Lambert-Soldado-Giroud

    1.1M in bank

    DOES THIS TEAM NEED TO BE WC? 🙂

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    1. YankeeDoodleDandy
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Definitely not. You can rectify it easily with a -4, so the answer is no.

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    2. SuperOsçarBaby
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      No!

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    3. Tactical Nous
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      what would you do? no wc

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    4. lastmanback
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I've got an almost identical team but Ivanovic instead of zabaleta, and dzeko for giroud

      Thinking of switching dzeko to giroud and soldado to benteke.

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  22. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    44.. meh?

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    1. Touré De Force
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      yep you got it. Meh. Won't lose ground, won't gain it.

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  23. elkunaguero
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Looking forward to the transfer deadline

    Everton without Baines and Fellaini = Wigan

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    1. JWF
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Agreed

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    2. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      UNited without Fergie = Everton?

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    3. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Man U with Baines and Fellaini = Everton

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  24. cheeky_ash
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Anyone else on a WC?

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    1. Shifty
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      o/

      another weekend of cleansheets seals the deal for me. and just how the baps are spread. not going super expensive in the back and crap in midfield, but just finding a better balance. no more 3 9.0+ mids.

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  25. The Gambler.
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Is the match winning goal BPs added live
    in play?

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  26. SPorting
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Dude. Where's my Chesney baps?

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    1. Whazza
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      They haven't updated yet

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  27. DAV087
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Thoughts on loading up on defence with Wildcard?

    Migs davis

    Toure Coleman mert terry Nastasic

    Walcott Silva lamps Brady wittingham

    Giroud sturidge Benteke

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    1. Touré De Force
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Playing 5-2-3 or 4-3-3 always?

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      1. DAV087
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Probably 4-3-3 most often. Rorke for best fixtures.

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  28. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Should I keep silva or dump and bring in negrado?

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    1. Pickled and Preserved
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Silva

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  29. elkunaguero
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Stupid Moyes... plays Giggs over Kagawa

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    1. Danny x-factor
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Is Kagawa injured. Not even in sub?

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    2. busteddocket
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      wasn't fit.

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  30. The Machine
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    So many people complaining about the BAP System and Mert getting 3 bonuses

    Maybe these people deserve that lame Shots on target/off target system, where defenders who work their socks off trying to protect the cleanie are rewarded with Shite...

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