[sbu_large_image] Dugout Discussion
14 September 2013 2348 comments
Mark Mark
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We’re woken from the international break snooze by a early kick-off that threatens to divide Gameweek fortunes. United’s Old Trafford clash with Crystal Palace is expected to be one-sided, with David Moyes’ men waking from their own slumber to put two consecutive blanks behind them with the Premier League new boys bearing the brunt.

Robin van Persie is lined up to be the main damage dealer but, with Wayne Rooney unexpectedly named in the starting XI, there is a joker in the pack, perhaps destined to fuel an old Fantasy debate. Could Rooney’s return overshadow a haul from the Dutchman? Can Ian Holloway’s side frustrate and keep the pair at bay? We’ll have our answers within two hours, from a match that looks set to have a big say in how our Gameweek shapes up.

Rooney’s inclusion is not the only surprise in the United lineup. Fabio is the man drafted in to fill the void left by injuries to Phil Jones and brother, Rafael. A largely forgotten figure, he will start at right-back. Anderson is another player brought in from the cold by Moyes; the Brazilian starts in midfield with Marouane Fellaini made to wait for his debut – he’s on the United bench. With Antonio Valencia starting ahead of Ryan Giggs, there’s no place amongst the substitutes for either Nani nor Shinji Kagawa, despite both being tipped to figure by this morning’s press.

As for Palace, they make just one change. Adrian Mariappa arrives to earn a baptism of fire. He slots into the back four and, significantly, it’s budget asset, Joel Ward, who drops out.

Our Dugout Discussion Chatroom is now open to cater for your real-time needs during this match and will remain available right through to the late kick-off at Goodison.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. tm245
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    If score holds RVP will get winning goal BPS as well so he could be on for 3.

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    1. mutatedllama
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      People keep saying this at the end of games but I've never seen it happen.

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      1. SW6
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        This. I think they're added at the time of the goal

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      2. Namtab Nomolos
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        Should be 1 point extra. The BPS does get updated after the game.

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      3. tm245
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        So they are giving gw goal BPS live as well? Did not know that.

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    2. tm245
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      Sorry this is on the top of the page -- seems a fairly pedestrian post. Apologies for the space consumption.

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      1. isacki: full casual
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        It's important. Not sure when the BPS point is added though.

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    3. Billy Gilmore
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      If it stays as is his is only going down, while the defenders' are going up.

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    4. Rupert The Horse
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      Never seen it happen, last week for example, Barfa scored and all said he would get the exyta point, never happened.

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  2. The Finnisher
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    Wilson starting in midfield again.

    GW6 that bandwagon is so on!

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  3. The Chosen One...
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    9 players in the 3pm kickoffs 😯

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    1. Buck The Trent
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      7 here

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  4. Lucy.
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    How are people keeping track of bonus points?

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    1. Kagawa-san-mia
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      on the FPL site

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    2. J0E
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      detailed stats section on the match report on FPL site.

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    3. big oak
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      go to the result of the game in FPL
      click on it (where u see who scored and stuff)
      go to detailed stats

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    4. Rupert The Horse
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      Fpl site, click on the score, then detailed stats. BPS are on the right hand side.

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      1. Lucy.
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        Yeah got that but that doesn't show up to date bonus stats?

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        1. Rupert The Horse
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          Yes it does, so bonus is added later but the BPS is displayed on the right and it stays up to date. Like if you click on it now, or refresh, something will have probably changed. Honestly.

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        2. Rupert The Horse
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          I just refreshed and annoyingly Fabio is now on equal BPS with Rio

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    5. Tatty Bojangles
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      This is much easier.

      http://totalfpl.com/bonuspoints

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  5. TorresMagic™
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    RVP off target 🙁

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  6. HellasLEAF
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    one more please RVP

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  7. MJ6987
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    RVP should have had more than one goal by now!

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    1. Elniñorules
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      Could have easily been a free kick instead of penalty

      I'd be happy with what I have!

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  8. Mindless Freak
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    Lamela on bench or not?

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    1. JWF
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      Yes

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  9. Sánchez
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    Moyes is a joke.

    This should have been killed off by now

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  10. The Machine
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    C'mon Vidic, complete those cheap passes

    I bought you for BAPS

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  11. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
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    No Amorebieta

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    1. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
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      Thats not amore. Why wont he play him. I have already took 2 price drops

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      1. Lucy.
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        He wasn't sure about his fitness. I think he'll play next week.

        I mean, there were better choices than him at 4.5 - he's a yellow card magnet.

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    2. Rupert The Horse
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      Big trip to Venezuela a few days ago.

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  12. Yome
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    No Taarabt!!!

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  13. isacki: full casual
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    Frankly, Moyes has come to Man United and managed to make them look worse than Everton.

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    1. Barrier Freeman
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      Roy Hodgson must be looking it as a spectacle...

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      1. Barrier Freeman
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        looking = loving

        /sigh

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        1. isacki: full casual
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          Ooooohhhh what a tackle...

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    2. Mílanista
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      Don't think there's much difference from their performances late last season.

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      1. isacki: full casual
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        Yeah but they'd wrapped up the title, they were in cruise control.

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        1. Mílanista
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          Certainly a factor but it was a long run of games where they really were mediocre.

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  14. aehii
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    United finally attacking.

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  15. Oflow
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    RVPs no longer is an automatic captains choice for me.

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    1. Barrier Freeman
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      I'm considering shipping him out.

      /kneejerk

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      1. Nomar
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        Same here.

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  16. Sigga -Cardiff City-
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    my punts this week
    Lamela VC
    Arnautovic (2nd sub)
    neither made the starting 11, just hope they get on the field

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    1. Lucy.
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      We knew Lamela wouldn't make it, or at least were pretty sure. Hence my Friday change to Eriksen.

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  17. Mr Smith
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    Anyone got the Villa/Newcastle lineups?

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  18. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
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    Valencia and Young. Seriously Lol. Supposedly "wingers". Cant cross for shyte.

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  19. OPTA FPL
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    RVP, how many SoT so far?

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  20. Nopli -The Banned One (Solo…
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    ERISKSEN STARTS 😎

    My punt of the season .

    Power 3 this season . Walcott - Hazard- Eriksen

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    1. OPTA FPL
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      2p coming up

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    2. ver_sparda
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      guess my punt?
      Mirallas out for Mata and Mata Captain this week.
      Beat that!

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  21. jonesy_in_the_laundry_room
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    BAPs are rdiculous this year. It's actually ruining the game

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    1. Oflow
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      Why because only Goal scorers should get the credit?

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  22. Parm
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    FULL TEAM NEWS

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    Villa: Guzan, Lowton, Vlaar, Okore, Luna, El Ahmadi, Westwood, Agbonlahor, Delph, Benteke, Weimann

    Subs: Steer, Clark, Bacuna, Helenius, Sylla, Tonev, Kozak.

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    Newcastle: Krul; Debuchy, Coloccini (c), Yanga-Mbiwa, Santon; Anita, Sissoko, Cabaye; Remy, Cisse, Ben Arfa.

    Subs: Elliot, Dummett, S.Taylor, Tiote, Marveaux, Sammy Ameobi, Gouffran.

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    Fulham: Stockdale, Riether, Senderos, Hangeland, Richardson; Sidwell, Parker; Ruiz, Kasami, Kacaniklic; Berbatov

    Subs: Etheridge, Zverotic, Amorebieta, Karagounis, Duff, Taarabt, Rodallega

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    WBA: Myhill; Jones, McAuley, Olsson, Ridgewell; Amalfitano, Mulumbu, Yacob, Brunt; Anelka, Anichebe.

    Subs: L Daniels (gk), Dawson, Popov, Morrison, Rosenberg, Berahino, Sinclair.

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    Hull: McGregor, Figueroa, Chester, Davies, Elmohamady, Huddlestone, Koren, Livermore, Brady, Aluko, Graham

    Subs: Jakupovic, McShane, Bruce, Rosenior, Meyler, Boyd, Quinn

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    Cardiff: Lewis; Taylor, Caulker (C), Turner, Whittingham, Medel, Campbell, Kim, Gunnarsson, Cowie, Theophile-Catharine.

    Subs: Moore, Hudson, Odemwingie, Gestede, Noone, Mutch, Maynard

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    Stoke: Begovic; Cameron, Shawcross, Huth, Pieters; Walters, Nzonzi, Adam, Wilson, Etheringron; Jones.

    Subs: Sorensen, Whelan, Pennant, Palacios, Arnautovic, Crouch, Ireland

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    Man City: Hart, Zabaleta, Garcia, Nastasic, Kolarov, Milner, Rodwell, Toure (C), Nasri, Negredo, Jovetic

    Subs: Lescott, Dzeko, Jesus Navas, Aguero, Fernandinho, Pantilimon, Boyata

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    Sunderland: Westwood, Celustka, Colback, Roberge, Diakite, Vaughan, Mavrias, Ki, Johnson (c), Fletcher, Altidore.

    Subs: Mannone, Brown, Larsson, Gardner, Wickham, Cuellar, Borini.

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    Arsenal: Szczesny, Jenkinson, Sagna, Koscielny, Gibbs, Flamini, Ramsey, Wilshere, Ozil, Walcott, Giroud

    Subs: Fabianski, Vermaelen, Monreal, Frimpong, Ryo, Gnabry, Akpom

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    Spurs: Lloris; Walker, Dawson, Vertonghen, Rose; Dembele, Paulinho; Townsend, Eriksen, Sigurdsson; Soldado

    Subs: Friedel, Kaboul, Naughton, Holtby, Lamela, Sandro, Defoe.

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    Norwich: Ruddy; Whittaker, Bassong (c), Turner, Garrido; Snodgrass, Fer, Johnson, Redmond; Elmander; van Wolfswinkel.

    Subs: Bunn (GK), Martin, Howson, Hooper, Pilkington, Olsson, Tettey.

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    1. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
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      Cheers me dears.

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    2. SW6
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      Always useful, cheers

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    3. MJ6987
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      How is this man still only "level 1" rep???

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      1. Demí
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        Lineup posts are worth less i think, or maybe not counted at all

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        1. MJ6987
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          No justice!

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      2. Thomass
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        Don't understand why I'm on it either?

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        1. Mílanista
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          😆

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        2. TorresMagic™
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          You are hardly on Thomass tbh.

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          1. Thomass
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            Yes I am? What do you mean?

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            1. TorresMagic™
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              Nevermind.

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        3. Elniñorules
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          THIS

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      3. TorresMagic™
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        Hasn't reached Level 2, must be close.

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    4. Mílanista
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      Thanks Parm

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    5. tm245
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      Green as it gets. Cheers.

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    6. Nopli -The Banned One (Solo…
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      Top Notch

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    7. SuperOsçarBaby
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      where the he** is Chadli?

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  23. Professor Abel X
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    Struggling to field 11 as it stands. Perhaps my unwillingness to WC was flawed

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    1. Dr Dream
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      No..it's a great move on your part...Today has shown that this years team sheets are even more fickle than last years...You will be able to pick better based on minutes than us early wildcarders...

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  24. SuperOsçarBaby
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    Kacaniklic loves to play against West Brom

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  25. Heels_Over_Head
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    through 160 minutes against Spurs and ManU, Crystal Palace have not conceded from open play

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    1. GREENDREAMS11
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      Yeah, they've done really well

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    2. Jax
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      meh

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  26. jimnastics
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    I genuinely don't think Utd have played that bad, yet the commentators keep saying it... just me?!

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  27. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
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    AJ is Sunderland's captain today

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  28. Natas
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    An rvp yellow can see him drop out of bonus.

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  29. big oak
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    cardiff has a player called Theophile-Catharine
    good luck for the fans chanting his name

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  30. Gooders
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    Kolarov bandwagon?

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