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15 September 2013 2208 comments
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The Gameweek continues with just one Sunday fixture, as Southampton entertain Sam Allardyce’s West Ham at St Mary’s. Both sides go into the game off the back of 1-0 setbacks last time out and will be looking to push up to the upper echelons of the table with three points.

The managers have contrasting options in attack for today’s game. While Mauricio Pochettino has the opportunity to pair England striker Rickie Lambert with new signing Pablo Osvaldo, Allardyce is woefully short on firepower with Andy Carroll now set for a prolonged spell on the sidelines. That could well make for a cagey affair, although Lambert’s Fantasy owners will hope that their man continues his positive start to the season by adding to his opening day strike from the spot at the Hawthorns.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open for those looking for some real-time accompaniment to the live broadcast.

The team news is in and is as follows:

Southampton make three changes from the side that stumbled at Norwich last time out. Luke Shaw and Nathaniel Clyne oust Danny Fox and Callum Chambers from the full-back berths, while James Ward-Prowse makes way for Jay Rodriguez on the right of the attacking midfield three, with the former Burnley man slotting in alongside Osvaldo and Adam Lallana behind Lambert.

Sam Allardyce makes just one alteration from the Gameweek 3 home loss to Stoke. Ravel Morrison is drafted in for the injured Stewart Downing on the right of the front three, with Joey O’Brien yet again selected at left-back, consigning new boy Razvan Rat to bench-warming duties once more.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. FPL Daniel
    13 years, 1 month ago

    I paid more to go with Lovren over Fonte , cause Lovren was the BPS king but Fonte is dominathing atm.

    On 3 BPS leading all, CS pts still not in there...

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    1. Alaric
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Same. Lovren was a baps magnet the first few weeks (and he's a pretty decent aerial threat in general). Quite surprised so far.

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    2. Ginkapo FPL
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I got Fonte over Lovren cause he is a bap king.

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    3. Milner4eva
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Shaw to clean up 3 baps, you saw it here first 😉

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  2. Gaz Downright
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    watching Spurs-Norwich replay... Danny Rose was immense

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    1. Trilogist
      13 years, 1 month ago

      He was awesome...next season will be reclassified..straight in my team.

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    2. Evs
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      He was good last year for Sunderland I thought too.

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  3. Djerbil
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Wanyama 10m??? Thats a seriously over-rated player right there

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    1. FACUPARSE
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Merson was saying he plays like a £20m player few games ago...

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    2. Sarnab
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Intelligence Zero

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    3. On The Other Hand I've…
      13 years, 1 month ago

      12m I think, but think he's been immense first few games.

      Can't even really fault him today, his role is to break things up and stop the opposition playing football. West Ham certainly haven't been; although by the looks of it they wouldn't even if they were allowed to.

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    4. Gimli son of Gloin
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Meh on the ball.. great at breaking up play though

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  4. Dilzy
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Who should I replace Taraabt with? 6.4 available, was thinking Ramsey,but I already have Walcott & Giroud..

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    1. Dogba
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I like Hernandez.

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      1. Milner4eva
        13 years, 1 month ago

        triple up could be an insanely good punt

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        1. Milner4eva
          13 years, 1 month ago

          woops

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    2. Gaz Downright
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      you can have 3 players from one club

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  5. Mojo Rojo
    13 years, 1 month ago

    So, let me get this straight... Pablo Osvaldo and Danny Osvaldo are the same person?

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Daniel is his middle name.

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Pablo Daniel Happy One Osvaldo?

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  6. Milner4eva
    13 years, 1 month ago

    0-0 half time

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  7. Optimus.
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Look's like Oswaldo's barren run against West Ham is set to continue into the 2nd half..bogey team for him

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  8. Jafooli
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Hopefully they won't bother coming out for the second half.....

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  9. CFC1990
    13 years, 1 month ago

    How about this wildcard team:

    Mignolet, Harper
    Coleman, Terry, Ferdinand, Ben Turner, Chester
    Walcott, Ben Arfa, Mirallas, Whittingham, Brady
    RVP, Giroud, Benteke

    This gives me 0.3m left in the bank

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    1. Dogba
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Looks pretty d*mn amazing to me. I might have downgraded one defender to Whitt for PHernandez.

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    2. Yome
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Mirallas is rubbish, downgrade Brady or Whittingham to upgrade Turner or Chester.
      Giroud is injured.

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      1. karankachiefs
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Giroud is fine. Yesterdays news

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        1. Yome
          13 years, 1 month ago

          Wait for official news from Arsenal

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  10. Dogba
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Good timing to ditch Nolan? Looking at his fixtures and West Ham's form, he was never going to stay in forever... early thoughts on best midfielder under 7.4M? I'm thinking Lallana or PHernandez. Hernandez has the better fixtures, but more congestion. Lallana has set-pieces and seems nailed on, SOT not really scoring too much though. Not sold on Ben Arfa. Other alternatives? Have Mirallas.

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    1. Trilogist
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Ben Arfa is Newcastle main threat. He will score v well this season. I'm regretting not getting him in yet.

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    2. Yome
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Hernandez has Europa League, I won't go near him.
      Lallana rarely plays 90mins, Ben Arfa is your man!

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    3. Dogba
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Seems "too late" to get Barfa if I look at the fixtures 🙁 I agree that the Europa league games are a bit of a problem. Agh. Maybe I should go cheaper/more expensive...

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    4. Telpuialion
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I have 0.8 saved up to go Nolan -> Eriksen after GW 5

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  11. Evs
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    What do people think of owning Walcott and Ozil ?

    Bit overkill?

    Too many eggs in one basket?

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    1. Optimus.
      13 years, 1 month ago

      i will have Ozil/Walcott/Giroud very soon

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    2. Dogba
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Not sure why you'd want Ozil with Giroud's form and price. All three seems too much.

      I still think Wally + Giroud is the way to go for Arsenal's nice fixtures.

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    3. d1sable
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      I dont think so, i cant see any other mids making a claim for a spot at present, i would go for it

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    4. denial
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Nearly went with them both on wc. Would've done if not for Rvp. I think it's a good option.

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    5. 7shadesofsmoke
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I like it, but i like Giroud and Walcott/Özil better

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    6. Somalion
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I own all three and was repeatedly told it was overkill here during the int. break.

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  12. Milner4eva
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Collins on for 2 baps :P, does that make him the second best player on the pitch?

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    1. Dogba
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Yes.

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  13. Lawrø
    13 years, 1 month ago

    What I'd give for a 1-0 Victory for The Hammers, Nolan goal, Collins assist 😀

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    1. Jax
      13 years, 1 month ago

      this won't happen.

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      1. Lawrø
        13 years, 1 month ago

        A man can dream, a man can dream...

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        1. Jax
          13 years, 1 month ago

          hehe

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    2. Dogba
      13 years, 1 month ago

      The other way around would be better, Collins assist and Nolan goal. Not looking too likely for either of them to get any points though.

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    3. Professor Abel X
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      It would be worth £700 for me!

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  14. denial
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    13 years, 1 month ago

    What happened with Brady yesterday? Why did he come off early?

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    1. Optimus.
      13 years, 1 month ago

      because i brought him in,sorry

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    2. Yome
      13 years, 1 month ago

      He is facing competition from Quinn for his spot, failed bandwagon!

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  15. FPLord
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Might be a bit early, but Mirallas or Nolan > HBA?

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    1. JWade
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I think Nolan. Mirallas looked good yesterday, i think he will come good partnering with Lukaku.

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  16. SW6
    13 years, 1 month ago

    This whole "bap-magnet" thing is nonsense imo. One CB getting 3 and his partner getting 1 or 2 is just luck and will vary game to game.

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    1. Milner4eva
      13 years, 1 month ago

      so vertonghen isn't more prone to getting baps than dawson?

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      1. Milner4eva
        13 years, 1 month ago

        i agree with you in regard to these two CBs (Lovren and Fonte) but the phonomenon isn't nonesense whatsoever IMO, (can be proven with stats)

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        1. Ginkapo FPL
          13 years, 1 month ago

          Fonte scores goals - bap god

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    2. Dogba
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Not so sure, I think we'll see some patterns emerging and analyzing the data from last season you see some (pretty big) differences. It's about how the CB plays, set-pieces, passing and so on.

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    3. Ginkapo FPL
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Teams are set up with one of the CB's being fast choice lay off for the keeper. That CB will make a lot more short pointless passes with a huge accuracy thus ensuring the baps.

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      1. FPL Daniel
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Great point gink. Thanks.. Upvoted..

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        1. Ginkapo FPL
          13 years, 1 month ago

          Mert and vert are the standouts as its extreme with the north london high lines.

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    4. boc610
      13 years, 1 month ago

      not nonsense if you consider the amount that defenders have notched up already this season since the new system started

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      1. SW6
        13 years, 1 month ago

        I'm talking about the idea that Mert is a bap magnet and Kosc isn't, same with Vidic/Rio, Lovren/Fonte

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        1. Milner4eva
          13 years, 1 month ago

          Look at Vertonghen and Dawson

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    5. Billy Gilmore
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Not really. Some defenders are consistently better passers for example. Or good tacklers. Plenty of ways some defenders will get higher BPS scores.

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        13 years, 1 month ago

        eg Lovren 84%, Fonte 78% of passes complete.

        That's an average of 1 BPS extra for Lovren on that alone.

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    6. Alaric
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Sorry mate, but no. For instance, Vertonghen IS a baps magnet and there's no denying it. Compare his BPS vs. Dawson. No attacking points for either which gives a nice comparison. 36 total for Vertonghen vs. 28 for Dawson. It's no coincidence he beats Dawson every week. His playing style is geared towards this new system.

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      1. SW6
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Hmm ok maybe nonsense was a bit strong as there will always be exceptions e.g Verthongen. But he is different to most CBs in the league in that he gets involved so often

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    7. Elniñorules
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      True, it's usually not much between them. But if you can study the pass completion stats of any defender you get, I think that's the best one can do.

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  17. r0nh
    13 years, 1 month ago

    This is the only EPL game on today.

    Why? It has little interest to the majority of football fans around the world.

    I know there is European football on this week, but that does not justify why all those teams played on Saturday! What about Swansea, dont they have a European game?

    Regardless, does this mean every weekend before a European week, that Sunday football will be crap teams? No, I don't think so, so why do it this week?

    People should be sacked!!

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    1. Jax
      13 years, 1 month ago

      sky have a deal where they have to show each prem league team at least once before november or something like that. you should now this by now.

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    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      13 years, 1 month ago

      southampton and west ham needing tv time too

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      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        13 years, 1 month ago

        which is fine, but have a follow up game with some more commercial teams... Or call it 'slave to the contract sunday'

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    3. 4vets
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I agree... not even bothering to watch it as I have no involvement in either team.

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        13 years, 1 month ago

        How have you not got multiple defenders from these teams. Did you fail fantasy football 101 this year>?

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    4. 7shadesofsmoke
      13 years, 1 month ago

      not sure about the sackings but i agree, this is a dour 'super sunday'.

      people should be hanged.

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    5. r0nh
      13 years, 1 month ago

      If the crap teams have to be televised too, do it at on a different time.

      Before 1:30pm kick off before the Manchester derby, for example, not as the only game on a Sunday!!

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      1. r0nh
        13 years, 1 month ago

        *4pm

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  18. Jax
    13 years, 1 month ago

    coventry out of relegation zone. -10 after 1 game now after 7 games 4 points...legends

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  19. boc610
    13 years, 1 month ago

    bring le Tiss on so he can show them how its done!

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  20. Sarnab
    13 years, 1 month ago

    LAMBERT out for me. Playing behind Osvaldo and Jay

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  21. Elniñorules
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Morgan very lucky to be on the pitch

    - Tales of an Ancient Mariner

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  22. Revival
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Guy in my mini league had Ozil, Ramsey and Giroud yesterday so for those considering it looks a viable tactic for next few weeks imo

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    1. Epic Fail
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Because a guy in your mini league has them?

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  23. Andy1
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Any suggestions for transfer?

    Mignolet boruc
    Zabaleta Coleman mertersacker turner Chester
    Walcott coutinho hba mirallas Morrison
    Soldado benteke Anelka

    Thinking either

    Mirallas --> eriksen

    Or

    Anelka --> 8.9 forward

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    1. Will - Fantasy Football Hub
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Giroud

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    2. Mojo Rojo
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Anelka > Giroud IMO

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    3. FPLord
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Looking at the total points so far I cannot find an appropriate forward for 8.9 who is in form :-O

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    4. Chinchinnati
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I am doing;
      Mirallas - Michu
      then
      Anelka - Lukaku.

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      1. Andy1
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Good idea

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  24. Will - Fantasy Football Hub
    13 years, 1 month ago

    on a WC - double risers:

    Ramsey and Siggy?

    Anyone else?

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    1. Milner4eva
      13 years, 1 month ago

      HBA possibly

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    2. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
      13 years, 1 month ago

      barfa

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    3. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Benteke has already risen once, I wouldn;t be surprised if he gets another. Giroud possibly to (needs to lose his flag sharpish though)

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  25. isacki: full casual
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Think Morrison could score one from range today. Good shot. Pass the ball to him West Ham... if you can.

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  26. Milner4eva
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone else doubling up on WHM or SOT defences? Shaw and Boruc here

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    1. Piggs Boson
      13 years, 1 month ago

      o/

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    2. Barrier Freeman
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Shaw & Boruc here as well.

      Also have Collins, so 0-0 banger would be just lovely.

      ....do have Nolan as well, so it actually pays me for him to do nothing.

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  27. NATSTER
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Half-time break. Who would you get to improve DF?
    A: Turner -> Walker or Dawson .. Dawson to lose his place?
    B: Turner -> Terry or Ivanovic .. anyone safe from rotation?
    C: Turner -> Koscielny
    D: Turner -> Zabaleta
    E: Else .. £6.8m to play

    Migs (Boruc)
    M.Turner - K.Toure - Coleman (Ward, Chester)
    HBA - Y.Toure - Lamela - Walcott (Barkley)
    Benteke - Giroud - Sturridge

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    1. Sarnab
      13 years, 1 month ago

      A

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      1. NATSTER
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Would you go Dawson or Walker?

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    2. Dilzy
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Evra

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      1. NATSTER
        13 years, 1 month ago

        He will need to do many crosses to win BPs. Would Rio or Vidic be better choice?

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        1. Dilzy
          13 years, 1 month ago

          I think he will outscore Vidic & Rio. He gets into good attacking positions, hopefully this will pay off soon.

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  28. OptimusBlack
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Lambert owenrs If he Blank again Keeping or Selling ?

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    1. Epic Fail
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Selling regardless.

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      1. OptimusBlack
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Right (Y)

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  29. Optimus.
    13 years, 1 month ago

    I see the magnetic ball claimed another victim today 🙁

    http://tinyurl.com/ovo5gso

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    1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      13 years, 1 month ago

      RIP

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    2. Lawrø
      13 years, 1 month ago

      😆

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    3. 7shadesofsmoke
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I used that technique when i was 10, the pencil header. F'ckin hurts

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    4. Billy Gilmore
      13 years, 1 month ago

      😆

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  30. Fred the Red
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Missed the first half, who's looking the more dangerous of the two sides?

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    1. Milner4eva
      13 years, 1 month ago

      west ham, but both teams have been poor

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    2. Viper
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Osvaldo missed a sitter. Nolan had a goal disallowed.

      Southampton edging it..

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    3. Jafooli
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Stoke

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    4. Spike ⚽️
      13 years, 1 month ago

      The bench !!

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