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12 October 2013 1405 comments
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For even the most experienced of Fantasy managers, this season hasn’t quite gone to plan. Those multiple hours of detailed analysis on player statistics and fixtures list which have proved crucial to past success have yet to reap reward – it’s been a frustrating first couple of months. Conventional Fantasy Football wisdom may have failed us so far but with another 31 Gameweeks of the campaign yet to unfold, it’s time to regroup and assess the situation.

In the first of this two-part feature, we cast an eye over the top 10 in the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) game, analyse the current transfer trends in order to gauge just how strong the “template team” for this season has become and look at ways to remedy the malaise currently afflicting many of our Fantasy squads.

What is the template squad and how established is it?

By looking at the top 10 teams in FPL, it’s immediately apparent just how quickly the template for early-season success has settled – a pool of 13 players populates at least four of those sides.

9 – Aaron Ramsey and Daniel Sturridge
8 – Yaya Toure and Olivier Giroud
7 – Leighton Baines and Romelu Lukaku
5 – Simon Mignolet, Artur Boruc and Ross Barkley
4 – John Terry, Branislav Ivanovic, Jose Fonte and Michu

Broken down, by position this lends itself almost perfectly into the 3-4-3 formation preferred by Fantasy managers – Southampton’s Artur Boruc ties with Simon Mignolet for a place between the sticks, whilst Chelsea’s John Terry and Branislav Ivanovic have proven equally popular in defence.

GK: Boruc/Mignolet
DEF: Terry/Ivanovic, Fonte, Baines
MID: Ramsey, Toure, Barkley, Michu
FWD: Sturridge, Giroud, Lukaku

The rest, however, practically pick themselves, with Mesut Ozil and Hatem Ben Arfa the closest to breaking the midfield monopoly, having found a place in three of the top 10 teams so far. Up front, however, the situation is emphatic –Sturridge, Giroud and Lukaku are overwhelming favourites. Indeed, four of the top five have those three leading the line, with six of the top 10 opting for the trio. Such is their popularity, they take up 24 of the 30 forward slots in the top 10, with only five other forwards (Luis Suarez (twice), Wayne Rooney, Roberto Soldado, Loic Remy and Dwight Gayle) deemed worthy of consideration.

Why has it been so effective?

The overall downturn in goals, combined with the new FPL Bonus Points System (BPS), has also played a significant part in how the season has unfolded. With players benefitting more than ever before from a clean sheet, the forwards’ collective inability to find the net has, in turn, favoured backline options considerably.

25+ points 30+ points 40+ points 50+ points
Goalkeepers 12 8 2 0
Defenders 30 15 4 0
Midfielders 17 10 3 1
Forwards 12 7 4 1

Looking at the table above, the lack of consistency from strikers is all too apparent. Granted, more frontmen have scored 40+ points than any other classification but dig deeper and the situation is clearer.

So far this season, a total of 40 players have scored 30 or more points in FPL but the spread across the classifications is revealing – eight goalkeepers, 15 defenders, 10 midfielders and just seven forwards. Even at the 25 point cut-off mark, the situation fails to improve – indeed, keepers (12) have kept pace with the forwards, with over double the number of defenders (30) producing the points.

The lack of impact from the premium midfielders, in particular, that has had an impact. It’s been a real kick in the teeth for those of us who had high expectations for the likes of Eden Hazard (741,000+ transfers out now), Philippe Coutinho (558,000), David Silva (521,000), Juan Mata (461,000) and Theo Walcott (459,000), with Ramsey, Barkley and the likes of Robbie Brady not only proving superb value but consistently outscoring the big guns to this point. In terms of big-money midfielders, only Yaya Toure, Oscar and Michu have stuck to the script in the opening seven Gameweeks – the rest of the current top 10 highest scoring midfielders started the season at 7.0 or less.

Up front, David Moyes’ arrival at United seems to have dented Robin Van Persie’s prospects. With attacking returns in only two of the first seven Gameweeks, the Dutchman has been a shadow of the player that took the Premier League by storm over the past couple of seasons and afforded Fantasy managers a reliable weekly armband contender. Aside from the injured Christian Benteke (875,000), no other forward has received more transfers out than Van Persie (593,000) but a lack of form, allied with a price tag of 13.9 and the cheaper in-form Rooney option for United’s upcoming schedule means more are bailing out.

Intriguingly, only one of the current top 10 started the season with Van Persie amongst their ranks – clearly, their initial lack of faith in the Dutchman has paid off so far.

Should I Look Break the Template?

Further deconstruction of the above-mentioned top scorers is revealing. Listed below are the total number of players to have produced 25 FPL points or more this term, analysed according to both starting price and classification.

4.5 – 5.0 5.5 – 6.0 6.5 – 7.5 8.0 – 9.0 9.5 and upwards
Goalkeepers 5 5 2 N/A N/A
Defenders 15 10 5 N/A N/A
Midfielders 4 3 4 5 1
Forwards 0 2 2 4 4
Total 24 20 13 9 5

Defenders who kicked off the campaign in the 4.5 to 5.0 price bracket are the most represented here – 15 have picked up at least 25 points in the first seven Gameweeks. As many as 35 keepers and/or defenders who began the season at 6.0 or less make the cut here – factor in the 11 midfielders at 7.5 or under who have also achieved this feat and it’s clear that value has been greater than ever this season.

The irony is that we typically rely on these budget players to save the pennies that allow us to acquire the big-hitters. As the data highlights, however, the premium options have, overall, simply failed to show any sort of consistency – only five players who started the season at 9.5 or more have managed to produce at least 25 points so far.

Previously, our patience is usually rewarded in such scenarios as the main men soon find their feet and start to rectify their lack of returns. Logic would suggest that Van Persie, for example, will start to find the net at a quicker pace, given that he’s scored twice inside the box from 19 attempts in the area – when you compare this to Ramsey’s stats of four and eight respectively, it highlights just how the Welshman has surpassed all expectations so far. Nevertheless, it also indicates that, in Van Persie’s case, he has still been presented with multiple opportunities to improve his goal tally – he simply hasn’t managed to take them. As our members area highlight, the underlying stats of many premium priced options remain very strong – they simply aren’t putting the ball in the net.

Ramsey, though, has shown time and again this term that the players in form are continuing to flourish and are punishing those managers who choose to overlook them. In midfield, his stats are poorer than team-mate Theo Walcott and Everton’s Kevin Mirallas, who have both fired 10 efforts from close range without finding the net once, yet the Welshman’s consistency of end product is, understandably, persuading the masses to jump on board the bandwagon.

The line between picking a player in form and chasing points seems thinner than ever this term. Certainly, those managers who have the likes of Ramsey or Toure will have no qualms over holding the pair but for those sitting near the bottom of their mini-leagues staring upwards, acquiring them at this point looks a debatable tactic.

Looking at the transfer trends over the last week shows it’s not just the top 10 managers who are keen on the template team. Of those 13 players mentioned above, Boruc and Mignolet are the two most transferred in keepers in the Gameweek, Fonte, Terry and Baines are three of the four most popular defenders, Barkley, Ramsey and Toure in the top four midfielders, whilst Lukaku, Sturridge and Giroud are in in the top five for most sought-after forwards. Given that Suarez and Remy make up the top five highlights the extent to which the masses are following the managers at the top.

One glance at the leader of the overall standings highlights how differentials can make the difference, though. He leapt to number one in the world last week after transferring in Adam Lallana, with the Saints skipper’s 11 point-haul against Swansea enough to help him to the summit . Regardless of overall standing, then, it’s clear that finding a less popular approach or player choice is key to combatting the template advocates – in the second part of this feature, we will highlight some available routes that could lead to shoots of recovery.

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  1. pit creature
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    My current WC team:

    Boruc Kelvin Davies

    Baines Vertongen Zab Terry Clyne

    Barkley Januzaj Ramsey Oscar Michu

    Saurez Giroud Lukaku

    Rip me apart...

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    1. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
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      where do you live?

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      1. AK ⭐
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        😀

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      2. pit creature
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Cybertron, you???

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      3. Epic Fail
        • 16 Years
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        😀

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    2. Robe Wan
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      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Is downgrade a defender or two and upgrade Ramsey to Ozil or lolcott

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  2. TorresMagic™
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    Evening all 🙂

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    1. AK ⭐
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      Evening TM. 🙂

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    2. Big_Andy_GAWA
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      Evening, sire. 🙂

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    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      'Ello, Sunshine:-)

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    4. Evs
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      Hello.

      Great rugby today, oh except the ospreys who continue to be shat !

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        Was it a kick-a-thon?

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        1. Evs
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          They just continually under perform and with 4 or 5 Lions in the pack.

          Scarelts were great though - good young backs (3 tries 😉 )

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          1. MJ6987
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            12 years, 9 months ago

            And the Sevens beat Fiji!

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          2. TorresMagic™
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            I need a pillow....

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  3. Johnny128
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    Who would you rather have?

    A) Coleman/Suarez

    B) Baines/Sturridge

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    1. Optimus.
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      B

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    2. Big_Andy_GAWA
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      Hmmmm, toughie. Probs the second one.

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    3. Wilshere Knowledge
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      12 years, 9 months ago

      A for me.

      I think Suarez will score more over Sturridge than Baines will over Coleman.

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    4. AK ⭐
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      B

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    5. Johnny128
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      Thanks for all your comments! Much appreciated!

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  4. 2nd Man
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    Working on some graphics and would appreciate some feedback on this:

    http://public.tableausoftware.com/views/FFS_Test/Sheet1?:embed=y&:display_count=no#1

    xG/m and xA/m are Expected Goals/Assists per minute using my own function. So further right means greater goal threat (minutes adjusted) and as you move up the more creative the player is (minutes adjusted).

    You can filter the data with the tools on the side

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      Looks good.

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    2. JT's Dog
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Looking at it on iPad so may not show all but at first glance would want to see players names rather than having to press each badge

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      1. 2nd Man
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        I agree with, unfortunately I can't figure out how to label select players. So it's either all or nothing, and all leaves a mess in the main pack. Will work on it though, thanks.

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    3. TorresMagic™
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      Steven Davis 5 appearances for Southampton? Please explain...

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      1. 2nd Man
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        Yea it counts all appearances, including subs. Do you think just listing starts would be more useful?

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          Never knew there was a Steven Davis. FPL site has 210 minutes so obvious you include extra time. Nice work.

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  5. Chu Young Ping Pong
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9SYVg6xA74

    Part of my Graduation Ceremony 😀

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    1. JT's Dog
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Telling me it is blocked in my country
      Are you all naked

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      1. Chu Young Ping Pong
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        😯

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        1. JT's Dog
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          Hope it wasn't media course

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    2. Optimus.
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      *bookmarked

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    3. Epic Fail
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      You graduated 😯

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      1. Chu Young Ping Pong
        • 13 Years
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        Yea, last week 😀

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        1. Chris_Fàbregas #DOOS…
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          Congratulations on your graduation 😀

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    4. Mind över Mata
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      • 14 Years
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      Can't seem to see it

      Congrats anyway!

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    5. TorresMagic™
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      No idea what I am looking for? The building has pretty lights.

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      1. JT's Dog
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        Must have been electrical engineering course

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  6. Big_Andy_GAWA
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    Have they disabled being able to repost comments on here ? Just amend it slightly to get round it, yeah ? 🙂

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    1. GreennRed
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      What?

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    2. GreennRed
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      What ?

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    3. Epic Fail
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      Yeah it's disabled.

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    4. Mind över Mata
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      Haha, yes

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  7. Mind över Mata
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    Wilson and Rooney -> Terry/Ivan and Lukaku

    No hit - Yes/no

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    1. Bridge
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      Yep looks very good. Terry IMO.

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      1. Mind över Mata
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        Cheers, why Terry?

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        1. Bridge
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          Not much between them, better value and BPs (I have Terry :))

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    2. Epic Fail
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      I'd rather not get rid of Rooney yet, but yeah I expect it to work.

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      1. Mind över Mata
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        Thanks - I agree on Rooney but it does free up a lot of cash

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      2. Mind över Mata
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        I'd also expect Terry and Lukaku to score more than Roo and Wilson over the next few weeks

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    3. Brutus619
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      Yeah

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  8. thepuntmaster
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    • 13 Years
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    Redmond > Amilfitano?

    Yay or nay

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    1. Alan The Llama
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      Yay.

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  9. joe259
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    This is my team. I am thinking of talking a 4 point hit. Thoughts?

    Mignolet . Boruc
    Vertonghen . Zabaleta . Coleman . Clyne . Moxey
    Ozil . Januzaj . Michu . Barkley . Ramsey
    Rooney . Sturridge . Giroud

    Coleman to Terry??
    Suggestions for captaincy please and I would like to know whom I should keep on the bench for GW8. Thanks

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    1. joe259
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      I have 1.4m in the bank.

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    2. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
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      save transfer

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      1. Robe Wan
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        +1

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      2. joe259
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks for the reply.
        Whom should I captain and bench?

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        1. Robe Wan
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          • 13 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          Sturridge (C)

          Bench clyne and jz

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  10. TorresMagic™
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    Anyone looking for some leagues/competitions to enter?

    http://www.torresmagic.webs.com/leaguecodes.htm 🙂

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  11. Robe Wan
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    • 13 Years
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    Permanent DZ

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  12. MJ6987
    • 15 Years
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    Who are the top 5 most skillful players in the EPL?

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    1. Robe Wan
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      • 13 Years
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      Ozil
      HBA
      Silva
      Nani
      Hazard

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    2. pundit of punts
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      Suarez
      Mata
      David Silva
      Ozil
      Hazard

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    3. GreennRed
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      Ozil
      Silva
      Van Persie
      Eriksen
      Sturridge

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      1. GreennRed
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        Oscar for Eriksen

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    4. AK ⭐
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      Hazard, Mata, Ozil, Eriksen, Aguero

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      1. AK ⭐
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        In fact Silva for Aguero.

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    5. Tiote on Peyote
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      In no particular order:

      Hazard
      Silva
      Ben Arfa
      Ozil
      Berbatov (of old)

      Slim pickins really.

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    6. Chu Young Ping Pong
      • 13 Years
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      Welbeck
      Hazard
      Nani
      Silva
      Aguero

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    7. WDT
      • 14 Years
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      Dembele, Eriksen, Van Persie, Ben Arfa, Hazard

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    8. pit creature
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      In 6 months time Deulofeu will be the at the top of peoples lists.

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    9. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Giggs
      Ben Arfa
      Silva
      Van Persie
      Berbatov

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    10. The Shoonchy
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      • 14 Years
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      Suarez
      Ozil
      Mata
      Hazard
      Silva

      No particular order

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  13. InfamousXI
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Hi gents, first time fantasy this year and posting. Team seems okay... Had a great start, but am addicted to trading. Lol team is
    Mignolet boruc
    Shaw zaba Wilson Coleman dawson
    Ramsey ozil Moses amalfitano Barkley
    Rvp Sturridge bony.

    I have bony cause michu is finally firing and didn't want to be the typical follower on the lukaku train although his form is blistering. So hopefully they stop playing michu upfront on his own. Rvp is injured? He will surely start firing goals. At least I hope so with Man U's upcoming fixtures. Moses is in the horse at to score some points if Sturridge and suarez stop killing it. Gamble I thought. Wilson is out of position but stoke are horrible ATM. Other then that I'm pretty happy with the team.
    Any advice is well welcomed regarding my team. Thanks gents

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    1. pundit of punts
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      How many times did you pick the wrong gk this season?

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    2. Robe Wan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Lose bony, otherwise all good

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    3. Alan The Llama
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Get Moses out of the horse.

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      1. GreennRed
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Moses stuck in a horse. Holy Moses 😉

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      2. Robe Wan
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        • 13 Years
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        Couldn't agree more, what the f is he doing in the horse anyway?

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        1. InfamousXI
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          Can't even tell you what the original word was that was autocorrected. So I guess we run with horse lol

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          1. JT's Dog
            12 years, 9 months ago

            Hole I think, would do zab to Chelsea defender

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    4. GreennRed
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      12 years, 9 months ago

      I've only seen Bony in EL games. I don't rate him. No pace, positional sense is poor.

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    5. JT's Dog
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      Bony because michu is finally firing, oh matron

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  14. MJ6987
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    And, who are the top 5 most powerful players in the EPL?

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    1. Chu Young Ping Pong
      • 13 Years
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      what do you mean by powerful

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      1. MJ6987
        • 15 Years
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        Strong, powerful. As it sounds.

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      2. Cheeseoid
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        • 14 Years
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        In odour maybe?

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    2. Tiote on Peyote
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      In no particular order:

      Lukaku
      Benteke
      Kompany
      Yaya
      Rooney

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      1. Captain Shirokov
        • 14 Years
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        Rooney? lol

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    3. GreennRed
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      Suarez
      Vidic
      Lambert
      Kaboul
      Lukaku

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    4. pit creature
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      That's easy:

      Yaya
      Lukaku
      Benteke
      Fellaini
      Osman

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      1. Tiote on Peyote
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        No Bad K?

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    5. AK ⭐
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      Lukaku
      Benteke
      Kompany
      Huth
      Ivanovic

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    6. pundit of punts
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      Yaya
      Lukaku
      Ivanovic
      Huth
      Negredo

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    7. WDT
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      Yaya, Lukaku, Benteke, Lambert, Kompany

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    8. Demí
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      Britton, Januzaj, De Bruyne, Bannan, Sterling

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      1. Declan-
        • 14 Years
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        😛 😆

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    9. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
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      Stoke

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    10. The Shoonchy
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      • 14 Years
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      Yaya Toure
      Lukaku
      Benteke
      Fellaini
      Negredo

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    11. Wilshere Knowledge
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      Mica Richards
      Victor Anechebe
      Fellaini
      Benteke
      Yaya Toure

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    12. jas5sk - Youtube channel
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      Lee Clattermole should be #1, and at worst #3, on these lists

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  15. InfamousXI
    • 12 Years
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    Skill is a very broad definition. Technical dribbling skills, position, finishing, vision. I would say
    1.ozil
    2.suarez
    3.van Persie (when Man U can deliver to him)
    4.hazard
    5.coutinho

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  16. InfamousXI
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    In saying that though there are a number of people that could fill positions 4 and 5 IMO. Yaya, silva, oscar, Walcott,mata the list goes on.

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    1. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
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      See that green "reply" button....

      😉

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    2. WDT
      • 14 Years
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      hugely disagree about Walcott being one of the most skilful players. His talent lies in his speed and finishing for me, not a skilful player

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      1. Tiote on Peyote
        • 15 Years
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        +1

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        1. Robe Wan
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          • 13 Years
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          +2 Walcott is terrible

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          1. Tiote on Peyote
            • 15 Years
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            No one said he was terrible.

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            1. Robe Wan
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              • 13 Years
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              Ok sorry, I think he is though. He's very quick, but a poor finisher and crosser and bad dribbler

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      2. Big_Andy_GAWA
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        Totally correct.

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      3. InfamousXI
        • 12 Years
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        Thought speed and finishing were a skill. It's too broad of a question. As in technical gift, I agree. But he uses his speed, positioning and finishing pretty well.

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        1. AK ⭐
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          I think MJ's post mostly meant the ability to get past players with dribbling and ball control skills, with a pinch of passing skills. That's how I took it.

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  17. Cheeseoid
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    • 14 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Evening all. Busy tonight?

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    1. Tiote on Peyote
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      No

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    2. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Watching X-factor plus with her indoors. No

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      1. Cheeseoid
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Yup. That's me

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  18. InfamousXI
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Mate, pretty much every gameweek bar gw1 where migs saved the penalty. Lol honestly the last 2 weeks playing migs has killed me.

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  19. Optimus.
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Taylor was happy with that 😆

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  20. InfamousXI
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    The reply button seems to be temperamental?

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    1. Robe Wan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Yeah if it says "comment" it's not a reply

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    2. TorresMagic™
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Guessing you are on a phone? Might need to hit "reply" twice. Need an option to "cancel" to the right of "Post Comment" for it to be a reply.

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      1. InfamousXI
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah thanks mate. Double hit the reply button seems to be working.

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        1. TorresMagic™
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 17 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          Welcome to the site. 🙂

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  21. Big_Andy_GAWA
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Guys,

    Does Tiendalli threaten Rangel's place in the Swansea side for EPL games? Looking at bringing the latter in after next week 🙂

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    1. AK ⭐
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      I don't think so. Tiendalli threatens Davies' position, if at all. Though he is just a back up for the worst case scenarios I think.

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  22. MJ6987
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    OK, so my two questions re Skill and Power was kind of an experiment. I saw a discussion on another football forum about how black players generally get described as "powerful, etc" rather than "skillful". I think the results here broadly support that theory?

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    1. pit creature
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      So you're saying we're all racist???

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      1. MJ6987
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        No.

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    2. AK ⭐
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      I'm not sure though, there are quite a few Brazilians who are skillful too. Willian being one. Not many in the PL though.

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    3. Robe Wan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Yes can lead to unnecessary stereotyping I think. Shaun wright Phillips, Aaron Lennon etc skilful not powerful.

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      1. Cheeseoid
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Also not mentioned as powerful list along with Peter Crouch etc

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    4. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      It couldn't in any way represent their charachteristics then?

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      1. MJ6987
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Dunno. It's an interesting debate though I think. An example is Yaya, who has great technical ability yet all anyone seems to talk about is his physicality.

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        1. Wilshere Knowledge
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          Black people are bigger and stronger than white people. That's why.

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          1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 9 months ago

            😆 What did I just read...

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            1. Wilshere Knowledge
              • 12 Years
              12 years, 9 months ago

              They are, it's just a fact. It isn't racist to point out physical differences between races. It's why most sprinters are black.

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    5. Tiote on Peyote
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      I think in general that's the case.

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    6. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Yay prejudice!

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    7. InfamousXI
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      I think it comes down to body composition and genetic capabilities. Race is not really relevant. You have lukaku and hazard running around the same team. Completely different builds, different playing styles.

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      1. Robe Wan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Race and genetic compatability are not necessarily separate issues.

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  23. JT's Dog
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Watched django unchained for first time and need to say it is first film for long time where I loved every minute.
    If not seen it you should

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    1. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      LAV IT 😀

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    2. JT's Dog
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Once you accept the fact django has a Crenshaw accent that is.

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    3. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Got it on the Sky plus damn x factor or I would be watching it now

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      1. JT's Dog
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Divorce wife now and get watching

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    4. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      yeah it was a great show

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    5. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Will check it out soon hopefully. Love Tarantino flicks. True Romance, brilliant.

      Last movie I saw that I thought was class after everyone couldn't shut up about it. I waited a year after the hype, thought it was better than everyone said :

      Trainspotting. All time classic 🙂

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      1. JT's Dog
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Ashamed to admit it but I went to see sunshine on leith, may only be out in Scotland but they had an homage to the opening scene of train spotting when rent runs in front of car during chase.

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  24. Del Monte
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Best Premier League XI:

    Cech

    Zabaleta Kompany Vertonghen Baines

    Yaya Gerrard

    Ozil Rooney

    Van Persie Suarez

    Name yours?

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    1. InfamousXI
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      On form or based on known ability?

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      1. Del Monte
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        On current ability?

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        1. InfamousXI
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          Same team as your although is run suarez instead of Rooney and have Sturridge alongside RVP. Hazard instead of Gerard.

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    2. AK ⭐
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Cech

      Zabaleta JT Kompany Vertonghen

      Hazard Yaya Ozil Cazorla

      Suarez RVP

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      1. Del Monte
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Hazard?

        He has done nothing to show his class yet

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        1. AK ⭐
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          His stats aren't good maybe, but his influence in the attack is too good.

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          1. Del Monte
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 9 months ago

            He does nothing, doesn't create or score

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            1. AK ⭐
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 9 months ago

              I can't think of a better wing on the left frankly. His dribbling skills are way too good imo. And the spot kicks are good too. I've followed him, not just in the league but also in European competitions and other competitions. You could see his class if you saw the goals he scored in the Europa League and in the Premier league against Villa last year.

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    3. pundit of punts
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      I would put Mata in place of Rooney. Rest same.

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    4. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      DDG
      Zaba Kompany Vidic Cole
      Yaya Gerrard
      Mata Ozil Suarez
      RVP

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    5. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Cech -> Lloris

      Gerrard -> Carrick (If you want a balanced midfield)

      Rooney -> Mata

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    6. The Shoonchy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      De Gea
      Zabaleta, Kompany, Vertonghen, Evra
      Yaya Toure, Ozil, Mata, Silva, Hazard
      Suarez

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  25. AK ⭐
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Boondock Saints

    Or

    Brokeback Mountain?

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    1. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      What /Who is a Boondock?

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      1. Alan The Llama
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        The boondocks is the sticks.

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        1. Cheeseoid
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          As in pieces of wood? Or somewhere remote? I assume a baseball/ american football/ ice hockey/ baseball team?

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          1. Alan The Llama
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 9 months ago

            Somewhere remote. The arse end of nowhere.

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          2. Tiote on Peyote
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 9 months ago

            It's shit.

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          3. Cheeseoid
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 9 months ago

            Hell it's a film I have never heard of. Looks pretty good too

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    2. Tiote on Peyote
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Boondock Saints is shit, haven't seen BB.

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      1. GreennRed
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        No it's not shit.

        It's much worse than that.

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  26. pundit of punts
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Who do you think will score the first hattrick this season?

    Suarez is my guess.

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    1. InfamousXI
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Rvp in the upcoming weeks

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    2. AK ⭐
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      RVP

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    3. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Benteke maybe

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    4. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Lukaku

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      1. Optimus.
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        +1

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    5. TorresMagic™
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Torres 🙂

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      1. pundit of punts
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        lol

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    6. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Giroud.

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      1. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        +2

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    7. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Rooney

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    8. The Shoonchy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Suarez or Sturridge

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  27. Kudo Warrior
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    I always have issues browsing this site on my home pc. Doesn't matter which browser I use (FF/IE/Chrome).

    It either shows me an error page saying "This web page is not available" or loads the page in a retarded way.
    Works on my work pc and my mobile just fine so I don't think it's an issue with too many users on the site.

    Any ideas why?

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    1. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      You will just have to use it all of your working day!

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      1. Kudo Warrior
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        I already do. But I don't like too much downtime over the weekend! 🙂

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    2. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Conflicting with something?

      Virus? Run a virus scan.

      When did it last work ok? Try restoring to a point before that?

      Are you absolutely certain the other sites don't give same problems?

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      1. Kudo Warrior
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Absolutely certain mate. It's never worked fine for me at home. For the last year or so. It's only now I can be arsed to moan about it lol...

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        1. Kudo Warrior
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          And I don't think it's something conflicting with it browser based as nothing I use is across all the browsers and it happens in all of them.

          No viruses on my pc, either. Really weird...

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          1. GreennRed
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 9 months ago

            What OS are you on? Not too familiar version of Windows but there used to be a kind of System Configuration Utility which allowed you to turn off conflicting stuff on startup, just for troubleshooting.

            On XP -
            http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310560

            I'd say though if you can get by leave well alone. Could get it working fine and fk up something else 🙁

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        2. GreennRed
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          Uninstall Firefox. Reboot. Try again in Chrome and IE. If not ok. Uninstall Chrome, reboot and try IE. If not ok check in system restore if IE had updates. Try restoring to last IE upgrade point. Try again.

          What specific problems are you getting ?

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          1. Kudo Warrior
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 9 months ago

            1. Either the page doesn't load and I get the error I mentioned above.
            2. The page loads but is just a wire frame with about 20% of the content on it.
            3. The page loads normally but just cuts off at the bottom
            4. The page just freezes.

            Doesn't happen to any other site at all. Just FFS.

            Thanks for the advice but I don't think browsers conflict with one another.
            My preference of browsers is Chrome > FF > IE.

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      1. Kudo Warrior
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        http://i.imgur.com/Pft0Dmf.jpg 😀

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        1. Optimus.
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          😀

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  28. InfamousXI
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Any Man U supporters know if Rafael is a possibility of nailing the RB position?

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    1. Tiote on Peyote
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      I'd be surprised if he didn't.

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    2. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      He has.

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  29. WDT
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Think that in basically 1 performance (Montenegro), Townsend's playing style has shone a light on the failings of Walcott/other simply "fast" wingers. He's shown what pace AND skill together can reap, and he looked hugely effective.

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    1. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Just saying. It was only Montenegro with a population less than Bristol

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      1. WDT
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        didn't really matter who they were, was more his demonstration of close control at speed, and his intelligent changes of direction, movement etc. None of these things had that much to do with the quality of the opposition. Also I live in Bristol, down with these sort of comments..

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        1. Cheeseoid
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          Would Bristol be able to put together a team better than Montenegro? I really hope Andros continues showing quality England needs more skillful players

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    2. TorresMagic™
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      *contemplates getting Townsend for FPL then sees only 1 assist all season.

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      1. MJ6987
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        *then remembers that future points matter more than past ones....

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        1. Wilshere Knowledge
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          *then remembers that Townsend isn't Messi.

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    3. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      At the end of the say, Walcott is one of the most effective players in the league when used properly. Townsend will never, ever get close to scoring over 20 goals, with over 15 assists in a season.
      How will Townsend cope against a full back who knows how to defend? He will have nothing left in his locker.

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  30. Optimus.
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    The one and only time i (c) him this season was for his one and only blank 😕

    https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1383174_718538104826995_1963769014_n.jpg

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    1. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Impressive.

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