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15 October 2013 2303 comments
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Having opened the season with a double in the Community Shield win over Wigan, Robin Van Persie’s brace in the Gameweek 1 win at Swansea suggested we were in for yet another year of consistent goalscoring. What has followed, however, has been highly unexpected and as United struggle to settle under David Moyes, the Dutchman has a single converted spot-kick to his name in the last six Gameweeks.

A hat-trick for Holland against Hungary last week saw Van Persie become his nation’s all-time top goalscorer and suggested his eye for goal was as keen as ever – with this in mind, we delve into the data to assess just what sort of impact Moyes’ arrival has made on the Fantasy heavyweight.

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  1. Tinmen
    13 years, 19 days ago

    I ask this
    Rio and Eriksen out for Baines and Barkley?-4 hit

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    1. DRIZ ✅
      13 years, 19 days ago

      no

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    2. Bubz
      13 years, 19 days ago

      Absolutely not

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  2. applebonkers
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    13 years, 19 days ago

    top scorers in qualification:

    van persie 11, dzeko 10, ibesevic 8, ozil 8, rooney 7

    top assister:

    joao moutinho 8

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      13 years, 19 days ago

      *Scribbles down notes for Fantasy World Cup*

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    2. charlie1X
      13 years, 19 days ago

      Schurlle?

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  3. Liastro ⭐️
    13 years, 19 days ago

    Sorry in advance...

    Just before the kick off at Wembley, a thick, dense smoke descended over the pitch. Some officials blamed the Polish flares being set off, before releasing that it was just Jack Wilshere enjoying a pre-match cigarette.

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    1. MJ6987
      13 years, 19 days ago

      😆

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    2. DÏLKS
      13 years, 19 days ago

      Not heard this one yet..

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  4. Trigg ⭐️
    13 years, 19 days ago

    So, Barkley finally going up tonight.

    Whichever way you look at it, Kim to Barkley can't be a bad transfer, can it?

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    1. rm9
      13 years, 19 days ago

      Gibson out won't hurt either.

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  5. Yossi
    13 years, 19 days ago

    Here's that Noel King RTE interview for anyone who missed it or just wants to see how to act completely unprofessionally as an international football manager.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbd3GObHCds

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    1. Captain Shirokov
      13 years, 19 days ago

      😐

      FAI is a joke.

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      1. Captain Shirokov
        13 years, 19 days ago

        King is a shambles.

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        1. Yossi
          13 years, 19 days ago

          Indeed. If he can't handle some friendly tactical questioning from O'Donoghue I'd love to see him against the British Media. As many are saying, a man completely out of his depth football and media wise.

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  6. Voodoo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    13 years, 19 days ago

    Would you play

    A) Ravel Morrison (MCI)
    B) Victor Moses (new)

    ?

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    1. DRIZ ✅
      13 years, 19 days ago

      a

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    2. MJ6987
      13 years, 19 days ago

      B

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    3. Yossi
      13 years, 19 days ago

      B imo

      Expect a cleanie from City this weekend

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    4. applebonkers
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      13 years, 19 days ago

      normally B but man city seem so dodgy on the road so i'll go A

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      1. RÏɠBY
        13 years, 19 days ago

        especially with kompany being questionable

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    5. Voodoo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      13 years, 19 days ago

      Cheers for the replies fellas

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  7. Heydudes13
    13 years, 19 days ago

    @JustinBieber: I hope Boruc is fine for my fantasy team this week! #Pray4Boruc

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  8. Holy See
    13 years, 19 days ago

    Kompany maybe not definitely out possibly, maybe http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-city-hopeful-vincent-kompany-2381826?

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  9. Scottys Army
    13 years, 19 days ago

    To clear up the injury issues from tonight

    Ozil - Out for the season

    Boruc - Out for 6 months

    Mochu - Out till the new year

    Good night

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    1. DRIZ ✅
      13 years, 19 days ago

      Ozil > Walcott then?

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    2. @FPLMason
      13 years, 19 days ago

      Wtf????

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    3. Tiote on Peyote
      13 years, 19 days ago

      Not Mochu!

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    4. RÏɠBY
      13 years, 19 days ago

      you mÖng

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    5. charlie1X
      13 years, 19 days ago

      is this a tw@t (an out of date rumour) or are you a tw@T-troll

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      1. Scottys Army
        13 years, 19 days ago

        You will find mr thicko im being sarcastic due to hyperbole tonight.

        Au Revior

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        1. Heydudes13
          13 years, 19 days ago

          Lol.

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        2. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
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          13 years, 19 days ago

          *au revoir

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  10. MJ6987
    13 years, 19 days ago

    Is Michu injured?

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    1. applebonkers
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      13 years, 19 days ago

      didn't play

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      1. MJ6987
        13 years, 19 days ago

        Due to injury or dropped?

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        1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
          13 years, 19 days ago

          he is not a regular, so probably dropped

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        2. applebonkers
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          13 years, 19 days ago

          due to being hilariously out of his depth presumably

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          1. Captain Shirokov
            13 years, 19 days ago

            Lol, this.

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  11. JJO
    13 years, 19 days ago

    Weeeeeeee have a winner 🙂

    http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/wtf-a-cameramans-ridiculous-pitch-invasion-during-a-womens-match-in-russia/

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    1. Yossi
      13 years, 19 days ago

      Wtf?? 😆

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    2. RÏɠBY
      13 years, 19 days ago

      haha 🙂

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    3. Konig Luther
      13 years, 19 days ago

      😆

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  12. QPR expects... glory!
    13 years, 19 days ago

    If Boruc ruled out, Rooney C FTW?

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    1. Optimus.
      13 years, 19 days ago

      I wouldn't have (c) Boruc in the 1st place

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    2. Trigg ⭐️
      13 years, 19 days ago

      *RvP 😉

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      1. QPR expects... glory!
        13 years, 19 days ago

        *not if Rooney leaves his head guard off 😉

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        1. RÏɠBY
          13 years, 19 days ago

          carricks new job is to snatch the roonguard off at corners

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    3. DRIZ ✅
      13 years, 19 days ago

      Januzaj?

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    4. rm9
      13 years, 19 days ago

      Now that RVP is fit Rooney isn't really an option any more.

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      1. RÏɠBY
        13 years, 19 days ago

        because persie has been scoring when fit?

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      2. Hobo
        13 years, 19 days ago

        ????

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    5. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      13 years, 19 days ago

      Southampton will still be solid. He's not the only reason they are keeping cleansheets.

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    6. Smarty Pants
      13 years, 19 days ago

      your bank value 😯

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  13. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    13 years, 19 days ago

    Another goal for Negredo tonight.

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  14. Mind över Mata
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    13 years, 19 days ago

    Is this still a good move?

    Roo and Wilson -> Lukaku and Terry (no hits)

    Mignolet
    Baines, Vidic, Wilson
    Ozil, Erikson, Michu, Barkley
    Rooney, Sturridge, Giroud

    4.0; Ravel, Clyne, Burner

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    1. DRIZ ✅
      13 years, 19 days ago

      Keep Roo

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      1. Mind över Mata
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        13 years, 19 days ago

        I like his fixtures but feel that Lukaku and Terry will outscore Roo and Wilson

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        1. Bridge
          13 years, 19 days ago

          Good moves imo. Before the match tonight there would be no question, but united won't play as well as England did!

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  15. RÏɠBY
    13 years, 19 days ago

    so which footballer is going to come out as gay before the world cup.. brazil would be a good place to do it

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    1. DRIZ ✅
      13 years, 19 days ago

      Paddy Kenny

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    2. Mind över Mata
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      13 years, 19 days ago

      Rose

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      1. RÏɠBY
        13 years, 19 days ago

        well i was thinking neymar or messi but who knows..

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    3. floydy_floyd
      13 years, 19 days ago

      Lol?

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    4. itstimmehc
      13 years, 19 days ago

      If they came out, surely Rio would be there last world cup for them?

      They aren't getting into Russia or Qatar if they come out :/

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      1. RÏɠBY
        13 years, 19 days ago

        by olympics own standards russia shouldn't get the winters
        but if a champion player came out gay then maybe the whole thing might stop being an issue

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  16. applebonkers
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    13 years, 19 days ago

    guessing you all noticed the kolarov goal and assist. absolute lion

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    1. DRIZ ✅
      13 years, 19 days ago

      has he taken clichy place now?

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      1. Rossamous
        13 years, 19 days ago

        Presumably but who knows for how long.

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      2. RÏɠBY
        13 years, 19 days ago

        this is the only reason i don't have him yet

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      3. applebonkers
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        13 years, 19 days ago

        doubt that will ever happen, but it's harder to tell who will start now which is an improvement

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    2. Rossamous
      13 years, 19 days ago

      The goal was a penalty and he was playing Macedonia so it's irrelevant

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      1. RÏɠBY
        13 years, 19 days ago

        not if you watch him play in the PL.. awesome threat

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      2. applebonkers
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        13 years, 19 days ago

        tell daniel that!

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    3. Mílanista
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      13 years, 19 days ago

      Classic Kolarov, always doing the business in every competition bar the league.

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      1. applebonkers
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        13 years, 19 days ago

        the original ozil

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        1. Mílanista
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          13 years, 19 days ago

          Yep, got both of them doing nothing for my team. 6 points combined in 2 GWs 😡

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      2. Granville
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        13 years, 19 days ago

        Has anyone been lucky enough to land points with Kolarov. Not talking cleanies, talking goals.

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        1. Mílanista
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          13 years, 19 days ago

          Yes, back in 2010/11. Had him months before I knew about this site 😎

          Was really close to bringing him in for that 20 pointer last season and a 15 pointer the season before. Agonising.

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  17. Rossamous
    13 years, 19 days ago

    Any recent news on Walcott's injury? Could be a good chance to do Ozil>Walcott now on my WC and save some dough just in case Ozil doesn't start. I would probably want to do this move eventually anyways..

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  18. Captain Shirokov
    13 years, 19 days ago

    The whole Irish football system needs to be sorted out from top to bottom.

    The FAI has turned into a commercial business more than anything recently, they got a big name manager in to please the fans, paid him ridiculous amounts of money and we barely got through to the Euros; having beaten Estonia in a qualifier.

    More investment is needed in underage football to improve the standard throughout the country. This isn't a quick fix, it's gonna need time and if the FAI come to their senses and do this, then we need to be patient.

    Otherwise, the future's pretty bleak for Irish football at the minute.

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    1. Heydudes13
      13 years, 19 days ago

      Or you should accept Ireland, a relatively small country, just do well to qualify?

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      1. Captain Shirokov
        13 years, 19 days ago

        But we didn't qualify?

        And besides, why should I be happy when I know that the country has more potential than what it has been showing in recent matches?

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        1. Heydudes13
          13 years, 19 days ago

          Exactly so when you do, it's a big achievement. You were putting down the qualifying for Euro 2012 like you were expecting Ireland to breeze through without any problems. Truth is, Ireland do bloody well to qualify, and that's an achievement in itself.

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          1. Captain Shirokov
            13 years, 19 days ago

            Sorry now, but you're putting words in my mouth.

            I would never, ever expect Ireland to breeze through qualifying groups (well, not for a long long time anyway). It's just that the manner that we have gone about recent qualification campaigns that annoys me the most.

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            1. Heydudes13
              13 years, 19 days ago

              Fair enough, I do think you have some decent starting XI players in your current side though. Coleman, McGeady and McCarthy namely. With a bit of luck, you have a good chance of making it into Euro 2016 where there will be more places up for grabs.

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          2. Somalion
            13 years, 19 days ago

            In fairness Jedmond some of our past teams throughout the 80s and 90s/early 00s were much better than "just doing well to qualify". Not that I don't agree with your point but we have had the capability of producing decent players (albeit some of them were English born).

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      2. Somalion
        13 years, 19 days ago

        A fair point and sometimes expectations are too high. However the Irish system is incredibly bad. I couldn't begin to describe the really terrible sh*t that goes on at amateur and semi pro level.

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        1. Captain Shirokov
          13 years, 19 days ago

          Agreed. Some of the the 'football' going on at that level is so unprofessional it's unreal.

          But that is down to the FAI elitists.

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          1. Somalion
            13 years, 19 days ago

            Had to complain about a match I watched where the ref was smoking a joint at half time...

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            1. Captain Shirokov
              13 years, 19 days ago

              The sad thing is, this doesn't even shock me. 😐

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              1. Somalion
                13 years, 19 days ago

                Nor I, ludicrous as it was. Didn't understand the offside rule or the concept of a foul throw.

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    2. Granville
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      13 years, 19 days ago

      Sounds like the FA under Capello.

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      1. Captain Shirokov
        13 years, 19 days ago

        Quite similar actually, just smaller scale.

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    3. RoysCallerAnne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      13 years, 19 days ago

      We need to do what Belgium did, in the early 2000s. Root and branch changes, start from the bottom.
      We will always lose prospective good players to the GAA and the Rugby so we need to make our limited resources count through grass roots coaching and encouraging the kids to play the game in the right way.
      I hadn't missed a competitive home match since 1985 until Trapp became coach and then I stopped going because the football being played was so dour and ugly, I suspect there's many more like me

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      1. Captain Shirokov
        13 years, 19 days ago

        Exactly, I'm sorry but Jedmond's comment doesn't cut it for me. Just becasue we're a small country doesn't mean we should be content just to scrape a qualification and leave it at that.

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      2. Captain Shirokov
        13 years, 19 days ago

        And don't even get me started on what the ticket prices were like up until recently!

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        1. RoysCallerAnne
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          13 years, 19 days ago

          Agree, a total rip off, right when we hit recession!

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    4. Somalion
      13 years, 19 days ago

      We have a few issues. The underage stuff is a joke. My brother, for example, is now a Dublin development squad goalie however at his club he was placed on the 3rd team and was never checked by the other 2 teams' managers to see if he was good enough to play up. He has since moved to a different club and is playing 3 divisions higher than the 1st team of his old club. Stuff like that is a joke.

      GAA and Rugby are far better organised in this country and as such will draw a lot more people. I've seen a lot of really good players leave my team for GAA and Rugby purely because football is such a joke over here. Here's another example. One of Bohemians development squads decided to play in my brother's league, which is North Dublin Schoolboy instead of the much more competitive Dublin District Schoolboy. That's one of our actual soccer clubs putting their youth side into a division that is 3-4 divisions below their standard just so they can win easy matches.

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      1. Captain Shirokov
        13 years, 19 days ago

        I could go on about countless examples like that here in Limerick (where the funding and organisation is even worse).

        But nothing is going to happen unless the FAI are stood up to. They have been getting away with murder for years now, yet it's only coming to light recently. It's not just a coincidence that, as you said, the standard of the GAA and rugby is much higher.

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        1. Somalion
          13 years, 19 days ago

          I agree but football, in general, is a selfish sport in many ways. Any of our real talent leave for other countries (rightfully so!) however usually never return to their old club to coach or do much work with them at all. Look at GAA and rugby, players stick around to coach younger groups all the time. I'm purely football now but a few years ago I was fairly decent with the GAA side of things, hurling especially. I STILL give sessions to my old club even though I haven't played for them in about 4 years.

          The funding isn't there either of course. Look at the crowds you get for rugby or GAA matches at the highest level, huge money to be made. A League of Ireland match would be lucky to draw 10% as much. Not to say I don't think the FAI have done it right, extremely wasteful all across the board.

          Finally it is our own fault too. How often would you go out say to a League of Ireland match if you could? Would you? I rarely do because I think the football is pretty lousy and I don't want to spend money going to see that standard. A lack of support on my behalf certainly but it goes for nearly every person in this country. Huge numbers of
          football enthusiasts will go their entire lives in Ireland without once paying to see a League of Ireland game.

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          1. Captain Shirokov
            13 years, 19 days ago

            Tbf, I've gone to most of Limerick's home game this season but I had only been to a few before then. (bandwagon)

            But yes, the League of Ireland standard is poo, hence the low crowds. This is why we need an improvements from an underage level right up to the international team. It's gonna take a while before things get better imo.

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          2. RoysCallerAnne
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            13 years, 19 days ago

            Great post

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      2. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        13 years, 19 days ago

        That sums it all up perfectly Som. I' was involved as a player for many years and things I saw frustrated me greatly too.
        I'm helping coach my local u-11s and 12s ATM and there's great satisfaction when even ONE of them lifts his head up to see if there's a pass on!

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        1. Somalion
          13 years, 19 days ago

          Exactly that Roy. Have a bunch of "younger lads" in the teams now (that said I'm only 21 :lol:) and not one of them can pick a pass. They can dribble, they can run fast, they can't release the ball.

          I can imagine from a coaching perspective it's really quite frustrating but we need more people like yourself in there working at it, people with actual experience not just people who were good at FIFA.

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  19. Voodoo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    13 years, 19 days ago

    Anyone thinking of captaining Baines at home to Hull?

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    1. Smarty Pants
      13 years, 19 days ago

      I'm not captaining anyone at home to Hull ever again.

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      1. Holy See
        13 years, 19 days ago

        Get bitten in the arfa? Me too.

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        1. Smarty Pants
          13 years, 19 days ago

          Ben Arfa (GW5), Hazard(GW1), almost captained Silva(GW3)...

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      2. applebonkers
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        13 years, 19 days ago

        this. hazard, aguero, barfa. rubbed in by aguero scoring in all the other home games

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      3. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        13 years, 19 days ago

        Negredo(c) that week was fun.

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  20. The Gambler.
    13 years, 19 days ago

    Best midfield 4 if on WC (to go with Janu)?

    Michu
    Yaya
    Ramsey
    Oscar
    Barkley
    A.n.other?

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    1. DRIZ ✅
      13 years, 19 days ago

      Mic Yay Ram Osc

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    2. Tiote on Peyote
      13 years, 19 days ago

      Michu, Barkley, Ramsey, A.n.other.

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    3. Hobo
      13 years, 19 days ago

      Oscar - Michu - Walcott - Barkley

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  21. Tiote on Peyote
    13 years, 19 days ago

    Any simpletons out there captaining Januzai this weekend?

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  22. Somalion
    13 years, 19 days ago

    Just watched the Noel King interview. Oh dear indeed. What a grubby little w**ker.

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    1. Tiote on Peyote
      13 years, 19 days ago

      He's makes Dalglish look competent PR-wise.

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      1. Somalion
        13 years, 19 days ago

        Agreed. With that said, he does have less experience in the media department. Still, what a defensive twat.

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        1. Tiote on Peyote
          13 years, 19 days ago

          There were so many ways to deal with a simple question and he chose the worst one.

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  23. Crouch Potato!
    13 years, 19 days ago

    Breaking news on Sky Sports, England Qualify for 2014 world cup finals!

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    1. Holy See
      13 years, 19 days ago

      Well good for them!

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    2. RÏɠBY
      13 years, 19 days ago

      i'm sure they were to involved cleaning up their savile interactions

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  24. Fackinell
    13 years, 19 days ago

    Who to get rid of for Lukaku?

    A. Sturridge
    B. Suarez
    C. Roonpig

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    1. Bobbydhino - ⚒ Saint Slav…
      13 years, 19 days ago

      B. KOPCannibal

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    2. DRIZ ✅
      13 years, 19 days ago

      Stu

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  25. Call Me Old Fashioned
    13 years, 19 days ago

    Come on Portugal v France in the play offs..

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    1. DRIZ ✅
      13 years, 19 days ago

      Hope not, would prefer both teams in the WC.

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
        13 years, 19 days ago

        Croatia v France could be good too..

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  26. Del Monte
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    13 years, 19 days ago

    Portugal vs France
    Sweden vs Ukraine
    Croatia vs Romania
    Greece vs Iceland

    Tasty!

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    1. Chu Young Ping Pong
      13 years, 19 days ago

      When's the draw?

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
        13 years, 19 days ago

        monday

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    2. applebonkers
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      13 years, 19 days ago

      world cup deserves ribery and ronaldo. hope they avoid eachother

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      1. Del Monte
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        13 years, 19 days ago

        france deserve to miss a tournament after what they did to ireland

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        1. applebonkers
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          13 years, 19 days ago

          how about france qualify but henry gets bad diarrhea for a month as a compromise

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    3. Granville
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      13 years, 19 days ago

      Interesting that you have the results of the draw before the official one on Thursday.

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  27. applebonkers
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    13 years, 19 days ago

    we allowed to talk about france in world cup playoffs yet? too soon?

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    1. Jimmers
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      13 years, 19 days ago

      no hand of Henry to help them this time

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    2. Granville
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      13 years, 19 days ago

      Give ^this guy a hand.

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  28. _Greg
    13 years, 19 days ago

    -------------------------------Hart----------------------------
    G. Johnson-------Cahill--------Jagielka-------Baines
    ---------------Wilshire-----------------Gerrard------------
    Walcott------------------Rooney-------------Townsend
    ---------------------------Sturridge--------------------------

    Anyone care to have a go on England's WC XI?

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    1. Drip Doctor
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      13 years, 19 days ago

      I'd kind of like to see Walcott on the left, cutting in on his right foot.

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      1. Del Monte
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        13 years, 19 days ago

        This.

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      2. Granville
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        13 years, 19 days ago

        I'm convinced now, you hate crossing. 🙂

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        1. Drip Doctor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          13 years, 19 days ago

          Baines yo!

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          1. Bobbydhino - ⚒ Saint Slav…
            13 years, 19 days ago

            Best crosser on the squad.

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      3. _Greg
        13 years, 19 days ago

        Townsend and Wally both inverted could work

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    2. Del Monte
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      13 years, 19 days ago

      carrick over wilshire

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    3. applebonkers
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      13 years, 19 days ago

      looks about right. think he'll pick and choose with cole and baines depending on opposition

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      1. _Greg
        13 years, 19 days ago

        could barry get back in over Wilshire?

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  29. Obi Wan Elokobi
    13 years, 19 days ago

    Rooney or Giroud this week really think Rooney will struggle to score against Southampton

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    1. Heels_Over_Head
      13 years, 19 days ago

      For captain, or for a transfer?

      Think I'd go Rooney either way. He often assists when he doesn't score.

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  30. Chu Young Ping Pong
    13 years, 19 days ago

    rooney

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