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22 December 2013 3994 comments
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The Gameweek continues with a pair of Premier League clashes featuring sides flirting with the top four placings. Southampton and Spurs get things underway at St Mary’s, with just three points separating them in the table. Later this afternoon, Roberto Martinez returns to South Wales, bringing his in-form Everton side to face Michael Laudrup’s Swansea.

The team news from the South Coast brings a few surprises in both lineups as Mauricio Pochettino and Tim Sherwood ring the changes. The Saints make three alterations to the side that won a point at Newcastle as Danny Fox, Adam Lallana and Morgan Schneiderlin are drafted in at the expense of Luke Shaw, James Ward-Prowse and Pablo Osvaldo; Shaw’s absence is reportedly due to illness.

Spurs make no less than six changes to the lineup that was routed by Liverpool, as Sherwood hands a first league start to Emmanuel Adebayor and recalls Christian Eriksen to his midfield. Danny Rose returns at left-back, with Vlad Chiriches also starting in defence, whilst in the wide roles, Gylfi Sigurdsson makes a return and Erik Lamela is on the opposite flank in what appears to be an attacking 4-4-2.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is open to soak up your real-time reactions from this match and today’s late kick-off at Swansea.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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    12 years, 3 months ago

    hmm sot defence lookin ropey, might play cardiff players next week

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  2. Jafooli
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    12 years, 3 months ago

    Could do with a couple goals in the second half.

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  3. mattyrobinson
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    The attacking output of Swansea and Everton is absolutely dismal. Neither have even looked close to scoring, and it's not as if the defending has been exemplary.

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    1. Kostja
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      I disagree, I think both have defended very well, with entire team working hard.

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      1. mattyrobinson
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        12 years, 3 months ago

        Have you seen what Chico has been doing?

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        1. Kostja
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          yep won some good headers, I also remember that great tackle on Lukaku when he won the ball up front.

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          1. mattyrobinson
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            And the time when he gifted it to Mirallas and they squandered a 3 v 1

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            1. Kostja
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              yes, so you have 1 mistake from 2 teams in 45 min and you say defending has been bad

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              1. mattyrobinson
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                I'm not really saying that the defending has been particularly bad - more that the attacking has been woeful.

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        2. Granville
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          Williams is on for 3 baps right now.

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      2. Scottys Army
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        + 1 both solid units

        Its either goals galore and defs are slated or no goals and 2 boring teams.

        Its not as simple as that

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    2. Give The Todd Some Love
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      Both midfields are working very hard, everyone closes down very quickly. Hopefully some tired legs mean there'll be some more space to work with in the second half

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  4. Woy of the Wovers
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    Bet365 offering 12-1 on Mirallas next GS. Says it all.

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  5. Scottys Army
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    The more i look at the 3rd striker option the more i think 2 up top will be the way soon.

    Suarez + Rooney and cheap 3rd one

    allowing 4 big mids

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    1. mattyrobinson
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      Crouch all the way.

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      1. Woy of the Wovers
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        Nah! Walk with your head held high.

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    2. Woy of the Wovers
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      Rotating mid and striker then?

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      1. Scottys Army
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        yeah something like say whits and a cheap striker rotating.

        leaving you 4 big mids and suarez and rooney + 1 of the cheapies depending on fixtures.

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        1. Woy of the Wovers
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          I think this is the way to go. What happens when Aguero's back?

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          1. Scottys Army
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            Rooney to kun

            Should be similiar prices by then

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    3. Heydudes13
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      Never finds substance that tactic.

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    4. the cromulent one
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      It is very possible go have Suarez, Rooney & Negredo plus four big mids as long as you consider Ramsey "big".

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    5. Shakshuka
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      I rather think defense is what should be downgraded.. Something like this should easily be attainable:

      Foster - Adrian
      Baines - Cheapo x4
      Walcott - Silva - Oscar/Haz - Ramsey/Eriksen/Cabaye/Mirralas etc - Cheapo
      Rooney - Suarez - Lukaku

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    6. Dr Dream
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      http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/1210969/event-history/17/....My brothers team...look at the rank...

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      1. BenDavies
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        Jaysus

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        1. Dr Dream
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          Aye...Jaysus indeed...Ramires and Chamakh...

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    7. Zombie
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      Even without a cheap striker, a decent 4 mids team is possible. I got

      Krul
      GJ, Coleman, Bardsley, Chester, Gabbi
      Silva, Wally, Hazard, Ramsey, Oviedo
      Suarez, Roo, Negredo

      .4 in bank

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  6. Mash Potato
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    12 years, 3 months ago

    Any good TV series anyone care to recommend?

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    1. Stephen - Robot Daniels
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      One foot in the grave. It's a classic.

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      1. Breadbin
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        This.

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    2. Darth
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      I was going to say breaking bad but then I noticed your name, got I love that program. Hopefully the rumoured Saul spin off is true

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    3. OPTA FPL
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      Sherlock. best in 201

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      1. OPTA FPL
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        2012

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      2. MJ6987
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        Yeah, that's good as well

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    4. GreennRed
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      Love Hate

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    5. MJ6987
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      Breaking Bad
      24
      Dexter
      Lost
      Prison Break
      Blue Bloods
      Boardwalk Empire
      Shameless
      Inbetweeners

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      1. MJ6987
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        12 years, 3 months ago

        Homeland

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    6. Jagermeister
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      Get a Cheers marathon going.

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    7. Something Clever
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      The Wire. But it will ruin other TV forever because nothing quite comes close.

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      1. MJ6987
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        I couldn't get into that. Couldn't understand what they were saying half the time.

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      2. HNI
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        ahh game of thrones comes good enough

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      3. Qubit
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        Watched 1 episode. Bored the cr*p out of me if im honest.

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        1. Something Clever
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          Takes time. Doesn't spoon feed you like most of the rest of the dirge on TV.

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        2. MJ6987
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          Yeah that's the one I watch. Maybe it's a slow burner!

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        3. Bubz
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          Pretty silly to base your opinions on 1 episode

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          1. Qubit
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            12 years, 3 months ago

            Not really. I was brief above, but I honestly didnt think much to the writing or any other aspect of it. It had close to an hour to get my interest but failed on every level.

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      4. Mash Potato
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        12 years, 3 months ago

        By last season it got a bit repetitive, but I think that was the point - the people may change the system stays the same.

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        1. Something Clever
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          Disagree. Each season had a different focus so not sure how you'd call it repetitive, and up to the fifth, they were all incredible. Season four especially. 5 was the weakest, but still brilliant.

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    8. DF
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      Allo allo

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      1. Gaz Downright
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        good moaning!

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    9. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      Suits
      Jericho but the end is shit
      house
      alias

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    10. GTS
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      Walking Dead?

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      1. Mash Potato
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        Try as I might I can't get into it.

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      2. Something Clever
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        12 years, 3 months ago

        TV about zombies for zombies.

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    11. Breadbin
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      Birds of a Feather.

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    12. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      Suits if you missed it

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      1. Mash Potato
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        Good shout, missed that one. Tar.

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    13. Mash Potato
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      Thanks gents

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    14. Call Me Guybrush
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      The Sopranos.

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    15. Bubz
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      The Wire

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    16. GreennRed
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      Sopranos.

      Prob seen it 😉

      X-Files, Twin Peaks, Carnivale

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      1. Qubit
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        12 years, 3 months ago

        These are some great shouts. Particularly Carnivale.

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        1. Mash Potato
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          12 years, 3 months ago

          Whats so good about Carnivale? Never heard of it before.

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          1. Qubit
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            12 years, 3 months ago

            Bit different, bit like a cross between Twin Peaks, Lost and the X-Files.

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    17. bitterandstout
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        the tunnel.

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      • Derailed Bandwagon
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        12 years, 3 months ago

        The Inbetweeners
        Gavin & Stacey
        The Pacific

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        1. bitterandstout
            12 years, 3 months ago

            Love Hate
            Shameless UK

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        2. Heydudes13
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          Peep Show.

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        3. Mash Potato
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          12 years, 3 months ago

          Thanks everyone.

          In return, the original House of Cards trilogy

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        4. Qubit
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          If you didnt watch it the recent french series The Returned (les revenants)

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      • bitterandstout
          12 years, 3 months ago

          Malkay McKay is winning the war with Vincent Tan. Cardiff fans should take heart.

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          1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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            12 years, 3 months ago

            We still live in hope.
            Now to convince the high trousered one for a 25 mill January fund

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            1. In Like Flynn.
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              12 years, 3 months ago

              Keeping McKay is worth about that.

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        • The Machine
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          12 years, 3 months ago

          Adebayor:

          WBA, STK

          Lukakau obviously gonna be benched in one of the next two

          Anyone getting him?

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          1. bitterandstout
              12 years, 3 months ago

              tempting

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              1. Fifa las vegas
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                😉

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            • Kostja
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              Benched??? I dont think so, Ade barely in game form I think he is likely to be benched in one game.

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            • Fifa las vegas
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              tempting

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            • Thomass
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              untempting

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            • Breadbin
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              Getting him for Welbeck.

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          2. Thomass
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            Come on the SWANSSSSSSSS

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            1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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              Nope

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          3. thearsenal
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            To think that Adebayor is the differential in this GW

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          4. CABAYE4
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            12 years, 3 months ago

            Anyone else bet on the Paddy Power enhanced accumulator on here this weekend? If so, have they added the extra winnings on your account yet?

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          5. Gaz Downright
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            12 years, 3 months ago

            Makay in front of the Cardiff fans after yesterday's game = Final fight scene of Gladiator

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            1. Woy of the Wovers
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              Did he stab someone?

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              1. Gaz Downright
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                I think we're all waiting for that

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            2. bitterandstout
                12 years, 3 months ago

                nicely said Gazza!

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            3. rozzo
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              12 years, 3 months ago

              Wish lukaku got more service, not just in this match but others as well, nobody seems to pass to him much

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              1. Vote Joke
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                12 years, 3 months ago

                He reminds me of a Heskey when he was at Liverpool

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            4. Call Me Old Fashioned
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              12 years, 3 months ago

              Mirallas misses a sitter.

              Meanwhile mini league leader gets 12pts from Lallana. Already got double figure hauls from Amalfitano, Shelvey earlier in season.

              Giving up on mini league now surely cos I cant get this kinda of luck to claw back a 96pt deficit. I suppose it was always impossible to follow up on my top 5K last season

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            5. Smarty Pants
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              12 years, 3 months ago

              Mirallas is becoming one the most dislikeable players in the League for me. Can't stand him. So greedy and inefficient.

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              1. SW6
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                Doesn't seem like the nicest guy either.

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              2. Count of Monte Hristo
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                Yeah seems a bit of a knob

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              3. Jafooli
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                Agreed.

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              4. jdoyle
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 3 months ago

                Have to agree.

                Holding his team back.

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            6. Something Clever
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              12 years, 3 months ago

              Pochettino's expression in the picture above looks like he's actually watching the game currently being played and thinking WTF.

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              1. the cromulent one
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                Lol.

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            7. Darth
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              Mirrallas could of played Lukaku in for an easy goal, it would of been glorious

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              1. Xavi Iniesta
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                12 years, 3 months ago

                You should know by now .... Mirallas does not pass

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              2. Woy of the Wovers
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                Cudda shudda.

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            8. Vote Joke
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              A) Ozil, Lukaku (bench player RavMo)
              B) Walcott, Silva (bench player Chamakh)

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              1. SW6
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                B

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              2. Xavi Iniesta
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                A

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              3. Vote Joke
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                Argh! This is like left lobe talking to right lobe.

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            9. The Machine
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              Just looked at the Soton defence

              Replace Lovren with Fonte and you have last season's garbage back line that almost got them relegated

              Maybe i'll wait and see on Adebayor

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              1. Scottys Army
                • 12 Years
                12 years, 3 months ago

                Sounds about right

                clyne , shaw and fonte all missing

                imagine ars with no mert , kos and sagna all out for 1 game

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            10. Mojo Rojo
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 3 months ago

              Terry, Luna & Ramsey > Evans, M.Olsson & Walcott for an 8 pointer is really tempting me. Would give me the following for GW18:

              Szczesny
              Coleman - Evans - Olsson
              Cabaye - Hazard - Silva - Walcott
              Lukaku - Rooney - Suarez

              Davis - Ravel - Ward - Chester

              Crazy?

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              1. Beavis
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 3 months ago

                Stick to the -4 you had planned IMO.

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                1. Mojo Rojo
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                  12 years, 3 months ago

                  Hey Beavis... Luna > Evans next week you think?

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                  1. Beavis
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                    Yeap

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            11. Jagermeister
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              Do people relies how Wildly inconsistant Adebayor is.

              Yeah you get him in, good luck with that.

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              1. Xavi Iniesta
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                12 years, 3 months ago

                He plays well for 2-3 games at a time. He dies this to earn a new contract/interest new teams around transfer windows/first couple of games for a new club

                The rest of the time he can't be bothered. Such a waste

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                1. Xavi Iniesta
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                  Does*

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              2. Mojo Rojo
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                +1... Disciplinary record ain't the greatest either.

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              3. Jafooli
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                This.

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              4. Breadbin
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                Oh be quiet.

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            12. Strificus
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              12 years, 3 months ago

              Would Adebayor be the real deal?

              Worth considering Rooney -> Adebayor?

              Too far?

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              1. Mojo Rojo
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                MADNESS!

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              2. jurgenizer | TRIPEIROS
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                mental!

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                1. Strificus
                  • 12 Years
                  12 years, 3 months ago

                  ha.. thanks

                  I would never do it either; there is just so much hype on Ade right now.. :/

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            13. Mozart_s Balls
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              12 years, 3 months ago

              Is Mutch 100% nailed on?

              I need a cheap 5th mid for next couple of gameweeks.

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              1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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                i would say so yes...... i have missed all his points tho, on the bench (and got nowt when played of course)

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                1. Mozart_s Balls
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                  Cheers for responding. I will prob keep him on the bench, but i'm sure he will come in once in a while. Plus Cardiff has nice fixtures and have resolved Tan-McCay dispute, so it's all good.

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            14. Stimps
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              • 12 Years
              12 years, 3 months ago

              Right so im downgrading Terry to upgrade to wallcott. Any ideas on 4.7m defender? Already have Burner and Ward

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              1. Mojo Rojo
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                12 years, 3 months ago

                Martin Olsson... Norwich have decent fixtures

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                1. 7shadesofsmoke
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                  this^

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            15. Jafooli
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              We've gone from an abundance of great striker options to just a couple (Suarez & Rooney) as Aguero, RVP & Sturridge injured, Remy, Giroud & Lukaku off form.

              Meanwhile it seems more big mids are starting to fire - Hazard, Walcott, Silva in addition to Ozil & Yaya.

              All in a couple weeks.

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              1. SW6
                • 13 Years
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                Lallana, Cabaye and Ramsey still ticking along too. Maybe the infamous 3-5-2 will return

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                1. In Like Flynn.
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                  😉

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              2. In Like Flynn.
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                3-5-2

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                1. Jafooli
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                  I actually think I might be heading that way ILF.

                  Would not have dreamt that a month ago.

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            16. Strificus
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              12 years, 3 months ago

              I went Lallana - Walcott in a week where Lallana stopped sucking.

              I hope Walcott pulls through!

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              1. Strificus
                • 12 Years
                12 years, 3 months ago

                Lallana -> Walcott*

                :/

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              2. Mojo Rojo
                • 13 Years
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                Unlucky! That was hard to see coming to be fair.

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            17. GTS
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              12 years, 3 months ago

              I'll try it on here,

              Current front 8:
              Ozil-Hazard-Silva-Ramsey-R.Morrison
              Suarez-Lukaku-Berbatov

              I was thinking of getting Cabaye + 4.2def for Ravel + Williams
              Any suggestions pls?

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              1. GTS
                • 12 Years
                12 years, 3 months ago

                anyone?

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            18. Mull
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              Would just be typical for Williams to get a clean sheet and 3 bonus on my bench.

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              1. Breadbin
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                I hope so.

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                1. Mull
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                  🙂

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            19. The Machine
              • 12 Years
              12 years, 3 months ago

              Worst premier league you have seen in the past 5 seasons?

              Very close between Buttner, Hoovield, Sanots and Squillaci

              Think i'll go with Squil

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              1. The Machine
                • 12 Years
                12 years, 3 months ago

                Premier League player*

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              2. Scottys Army
                • 12 Years
                12 years, 3 months ago

                Hoov

                Shambles

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            20. Kavali
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              Shelvey has 0bps, nice, he was most active SWA player, stupid FPL

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              1. Breadbin
                • 15 Years
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                Ran around a lot did he?

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