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O’Reilly
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Semenyo
Saka
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Ekitiké
Haaland
Thiago

Kelleher
Rodon
Clyne
Kroupi

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Price Change Predictions

Risers

Fallers

Player	Team	Price	Progress	Tonight
Tavernier	BOU	5.5m	97.0%	Likely
Semenyo	BOU	7.5m	89.0%	Likely
Matheus N.	MCI	5.3m	100.4%	Very Likely
Palmer	CHE	10.3m	100.2%	Very Likely
Wilson	FUL	5.6m	84.8%	Maybe
Bowen	WHU	7.5m	90.7%	Unlikely
Gvardiol	MCI	5.9m	88.0%	Unlikely
Marc Guiu	CHE	4.2m	87.7%	Unlikely
Watkins	AVL	8.5m	84.6%	Unlikely
Truffert	BOU	4.5m	80.1%	Unlikely
Ekitiké	LIV	8.6m	68.5%	Unlikely
Keane	EVE	4.6m	74.0%	Unlikely
Foden	MCI	8.8m	68.1%	Unlikely
Verbruggen	BHA	4.4m	69.9%	Unlikely
Andersen	FUL	4.6m	69.7%	Unlikely
Mitchell	CRY	5.0m	68.2%	Unlikely
Ballard	SUN	4.6m	67.0%	Unlikely
Haaland	MCI	15.0m	64.0%	Unlikely
Raya	ARS	6.0m	66.4%	Unlikely
Livramento	NEW	4.9m	63.7%	Unlikely
Tete	FUL	4.5m	61.9%	Unlikely
Casemiro	MUN	5.5m	62.9%	Unlikely
Dalot	MUN	4.4m	60.6%	Unlikely
Petrović	BOU	4.5m	57.8%	Unlikely
Dúbravka	BUR	4.0m	56.4%	Unlikely
Cullen	BUR	5.0m	56.1%	Unlikely
Guéhi	CRY	5.3m	48.5%	Unlikely
Cash	AVL	4.9m	51.3%	Unlikely
B.Fernandes	MUN	9.3m	47.4%	Unlikely
Romero	TOT	5.0m	50.7%	Unlikely
Van den Berg	BRE	4.5m	49.9%	Unlikely
James	CHE	5.6m	48.7%	Unlikely
Igor Jesus	NFO	5.8m	47.7%	Unlikely
Flemming	BUR	5.3m	47.7%	Unlikely
L.Miley	NEW	4.4m	39.3%	Unlikely
Pickford	EVE	5.5m	40.5%	Unlikely
Mount	MUN	5.9m	39.4%	Unlikely
Wilson	WHU	5.8m	39.5%	Unlikely
Cherki	MCI	6.5m	32.4%	Unlikely
Leno	FUL	4.9m	38.4%	Unlikely

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Player	Team	Price	Progress	Tonight
Lammens	MUN	5.1m	110.5%	Very Likely
Nallo	LIV	3.8m	100.9%	Very Likely
João Pedro	CHE	7.3m	98.9%	Likely
Mayenda	SUN	5.3m	100.5%	Very Likely
Elanga	NEW	6.6m	100.5%	Very Likely
Muniz	FUL	5.4m	100.3%	Very Likely
Rodon	LEE	4.1m	100.4%	Very Likely
Gudmundsson	LEE	3.9m	100.2%	Very Likely
Woltemade	NEW	7.4m	95.0%	Maybe
Jordan	BUR	4.0m	99.6%	Maybe
Neave	NEW	4.4m	99.1%	Maybe
Enzo	CHE	6.6m	94.7%	Maybe
Irving	WHU	4.4m	95.1%	Maybe
McKenna	BOU	4.0m	94.9%	Unlikely
Okafor	LEE	5.5m	94.4%	Unlikely
Barnes	BUR	4.3m	93.1%	Unlikely
Balcombe	BRE	4.0m	93.5%	Unlikely
Bentley	WOL	4.0m	92.8%	Unlikely
Sels	NFO	4.7m	91.5%	Unlikely
Piroe	LEE	5.0m	92.6%	Unlikely
Broggio	AVL	4.5m	92.3%	Unlikely
Morgan	BRE	4.4m	93.4%	Unlikely
Colwill	CHE	4.8m	91.9%	Unlikely
Kulusevski	TOT	6.4m	91.6%	Unlikely
Tasker	BHA	3.9m	89.6%	Unlikely
Nørgaard	ARS	5.2m	89.3%	Unlikely
Worrall	BUR	3.9m	88.8%	Unlikely
Yarmoliuk	BRE	5.0m	90.3%	Unlikely
Webster	BHA	4.4m	87.0%	Unlikely
McAtee	NFO	5.1m	86.7%	Unlikely
Coleman	EVE	4.3m	85.7%	Unlikely
Benitez	CRY	4.0m	86.2%	Unlikely
Munetsi	WOL	5.4m	85.1%	Unlikely
Danso	TOT	4.3m	86.6%	Unlikely
Barnes	NEW	6.3m	79.5%	Unlikely
Jair Cunha	NFO	4.3m	84.9%	Unlikely
Fitzgerald	MUN	4.4m	84.9%	Unlikely
Gakpo	LIV	7.4m	82.1%	Unlikely
Aina	NFO	4.7m	83.4%	Unlikely
Bevan	BOU	3.9m	83.5%	Unlikely

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Watchlists

	Player	Club	Factors
No Change	Raya Martin	ARS	C
No Change	Alisson	LIV	C
No Change	Donnarumma	MCI	C, Sus
Up	Kelleher	BRE	C, Vs
Down	Ramsdale	NEW	C
No Change	Dubravka	BUR	C, £

Last updated: 13 Dec, 2025 10:16am

	Player	Club	Factors
No Change	van Dijk	LIV	C
No Change	Jurriën Timber	ARS	C, Inj
No Change	O’Reilly	MCI	C
Up	Andersen	FUL	C
Up	Marc Guehi	CRY	A
Up	van den Berg	BRE	C, Vs
No Change	Thiaw	NEW	A
No Change	Milenkovic	NFO	C
No Change	van Hecke	BHA	A
No Change	Mukiele	SUN	C, £

Last updated: 13 Dec, 2025 10:28am

	Player	Club	Factors
No Change	Saka	ARS	B
No Change	Bruno Fernandes	MUN	A
No Change	Foden	MCI	A
No Change	Semenyo	BOU	C
Up	Szoboszlai	LIV	C
No Change	Minteh	BHA	B
No Change	Bruno Guimarães	NEW	A
No Change	Schade	BRE	C, Vs, Sus
No Change	Anderson	NFO	B, £

Last updated: 13 Dec, 2025 10:34am

	Player	Club	Factors
No Change	Haaland	MCI	B
No Change	Thiago	BRE	A, Vs
No Change	Mateta	CRY	C
Up	Ekitiké	LIV	B
Down	Welbeck	BHA	C, Rest
Down	Woltemade	NEW	B

Last updated: 13 Dec, 2025 10:43am

FFS Cup

FFS Paddy Power Cup IX and Members Cup IV – First Round Draws

25 February 2014 1815 comments

Paul

We bring you the draws for the First Round of the Fantasy Football Scout Cup IX and FFS Members Cup IV, as sponsored by Paddy Power, after the qualifying rounds for both competitions took place over Gameweek 27:

First of all, entrants with a score of 56 points or more have earned a spot in the First Round of the Fantasy Football Scout Cup IX. If you scored 55 points, it was then down to overall rank to decide whether you progressed.

Our defending champion, Tdubb05, gets his title defence underway against stocherilac this weekend. Looking at some of the other previous winners, Jonty plays djt, MCH is up against Jambo 17, Donnellyc has cflanesra, Wild Rover goes head-to-head with Chobber Slops FC, whilst Gooner Dave has been drawn against JW.

Some of the plum ties amongst the community include Chu Young Ping Pong v Acquafresca, Bubbles against Yes the Sess! and Accounting on Chris v Attila the Bum.

Four of the current top 100 Fantasy Premier League (FPL) managers are in the hat for this weekend’s matches. Gambiteer, Justoutsidethemoney and Forbes are amongst those high-fliers as is world number two Tom Fenley, whose opponent, Alistair, currently sits around the 23,000-mark.

If you’ve qualified or just fancy a nosey, click here to view the full First Round Draw.

Entrants with a score of 58 points or more will have made their way into the First Round of the Fantasy Football Scout Members Cup IV. If you scored 57 points, it was then down to overall rank to decide whether you progressed.

Defending champion Acquafresca is up against Caladan Brood, whilst another former winner, Fuzzy Dunlop, goes head-to-head with The EJJ in Gameweek 28.

Amongst the notable community match ups, contributors Big Dunc and In Tommy We Trust face up to EpicFail and Chu Young Ping Pong respectively, whilst Dino’s clash with Bootsy and Thomass67 against Absinthe also catch the eye.

Once again, Tom Fenley is the manager to avoid in this cup. This time, he’s up against tmidrew who, with a rank inside the top 4,000, will fancy his chances of causing an upset. You can click here to view the First Round Draw.

For a list of the prizes and dates of each round, check out this initial article. As always, good luck to all those involved.

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JK - Cønt ⭐
11 years, 9 months ago
First year I enter I didn't do well enough to qualify. Perfect way to end today's sack of sheet 😆
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Your Mum's Athletic
11 years, 9 months ago
RVP stating the obvious that players getting in his way, MOYES your playing people in their wrong positions for the sake of your shite system which is reliant on good wingers who can cross, Young and Valencia are rubbish and it's not working, it's boring, it's predicatable, 4-4-2 bla bla bla boring!. That is up there with one of the worst performances i have EVER seen. PATHETIC.We create no chances under Moyes.

Pass pass pass back, pass pass sideways, pass pass pass, lose the friggin ball! Rant over!
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1. Get up ya bum
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Beautiful innit 😀
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TorresMagic™
11 years, 9 months ago
Evening all 🙂

Man Uniteds performance out of 10?
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1. The Enlightener
  11 years, 9 months ago
  -7
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  1. Licky
    11 years, 9 months ago
    Would have got a better score had they not shown up, sums up their night really.
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    1. There's Always One!
      11 years, 9 months ago
      Just wondering mate with a name like that can you help me decide whether to get lambert or not for dzeko?
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      1. Licky
        11 years, 9 months ago
        He'd be a decent shout if he plays, I think that's what it would hinge on for me. Certainly good short term.
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2. Give The Todd Some Love
  11 years, 9 months ago
  0.1
  
  Probably the worst United performance I've ever seen
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3. applebonkers
  11 years, 9 months ago
  2.0
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4. Dr Dream
  11 years, 9 months ago
  0..poor from the kick off.
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5. Woy of the Wovers
  11 years, 9 months ago
  They're only as good as their last game.
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6. FPL Blow-In
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Of all the shite United performances I have sat through this year tonight's was the most frustrating and disappointing..
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7. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Played a good side away with phenomenal support.
  
  7/10. Will be close at Old Trafford if the real fans can raise a voice.
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  1. GreennRed
    11 years, 9 months ago
    7/10?
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    1. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      11 years, 9 months ago
      Yes. I think that's fair really as they are a class team in their own back yard.
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  2. Give The Todd Some Love
    11 years, 9 months ago
    Lol
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  3. Ryan
    11 years, 9 months ago
    Based on their current potential its probably not far off the mark 🙁
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8. Bubz
  11 years, 9 months ago
  0.
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Cheeseoid
11 years, 9 months ago
Unusual to see someone who has been so completely dropped as Eriksen. I didn't see is last match where he came off after 58 mins he must have been terrible
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Pepereina Pizza
11 years, 9 months ago
A post-GW29 challenge for you all:

Pick one:

Eden Hazard (0 dgw's)
vs.
Yaya Toure (3 dgw's)
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1. wood is good
  11 years, 9 months ago
  really?
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  1. Pepereina Pizza
    11 years, 9 months ago
    really.
    
    if you could only have one, which would you choose. That is really the question. Really.
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2. Give The Todd Some Love
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Sounds like a dick answer, but both. You just need both.
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  1. Cheeseoid
    11 years, 9 months ago
    I agree
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    1. Pepereina Pizza
      11 years, 9 months ago
      is having both better than having (suarez-sturridge-aguero) ?
      
      I'm not skimping in defense to get all 5
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      1. Whitman2013
        11 years, 9 months ago
        you would rather have defenders then haz?
        
        all 5 would be perfect with 2 big hitting def and 3 budget
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        Woy of the Wovers
        11 years, 9 months ago
        Disagree. Hazard has 9 games. Coleman has 11. Kompany has 12.
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        Pepereina Pizza
        11 years, 9 months ago
        ^^^This is precisely what i am trying to do
        
        downgrade Hazard to someone like AJ, netting 4.2m
        
        and spread that 4.2m over my defense.
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        Whitman2013
        11 years, 9 months ago
        then they can be your 2 big hitters.
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      2. Give The Todd Some Love
        11 years, 9 months ago
        Again, think all 5 is pretty important. Those 5 will get you more points than any decent defenders
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        wood is good
        11 years, 9 months ago
        so my answer really is yaya.
        he has three more fixtures!
        but obviously you should have both
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        Pepereina Pizza
        11 years, 9 months ago
        thank you for answering.
        
        I favor Yaya as well, at the expense of Hazard.
        Not because everyone should follow my lead, but because I want my defensive titans to be my team's differentiator.
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        Pepereina Pizza
        11 years, 9 months ago
        I disagree with that, and my team's bias will be toward quality at the back.
        We're straying from my question, but the difference I'm looking at is this:
        
        A.johnson+ (Kompany, Ivanovic, Coleman, Evra)
        
        -versus-
        
        Hazard + (Ivanovic, Jagielka, Fonte, Ward)
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        wood is good
        11 years, 9 months ago
        dont like the company pick .
        ward could score close to evra anyway!
        im going completely the other way and ubering up but its all personal choice.
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        Pepereina Pizza
        11 years, 9 months ago
        I probably won't buy Evra, but that was just to illustrate my point.
        
        4.2m downgrade from Hazard, imo, can be recovered (and then some) with hard-hitting DGW-heavy defenders with little likelihood of rotation.
        ** in Kompany's case, I may go with Hart instead. Can't chance dgw's on Zaba/Kola
        
        If you sort "all players" by "value(season)", the defenders rule the roost. They get more PPG, and top out at 6.5 for the superstars. Bargain.
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        wood is good
        11 years, 9 months ago
        fair enough and i suppose with the extra fixtures kompany maybe isnt such a bad shout.
        i just like the prospect of my gw 31 team being stacked full of big hitting attackers , and then a couple of hull and a wham defender.
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3. Nabs Kebabs
  11 years, 9 months ago
  im gonna drop haz for aj or nolan gw 30/31. have yaya.
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  1. Pepereina Pizza
    11 years, 9 months ago
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Qstnz8gKgHQ/UZ-w3YI3oEI/AAAAAAAAC8g/j_4H8Q7L4lU/s1600/KnowingLookBrettBurke.gif
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    1. Nabs Kebabs
      11 years, 9 months ago
      😆
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Parm
11 years, 9 months ago
Night all.

I leave you with my updated fixture spreadsheet.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhFqkaFEe92idENGTktEQV9hQXNhM2xQRlZLVHlIUmc&usp=drive_web#gid=0
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1. Werkself
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Thanks.
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BantamPhil
11 years, 9 months ago
And that is why you don't own Man Utd players
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TorresMagic™
11 years, 9 months ago
Don't forget to join my "FPL Open"

Code is 58-315

Currently 37K is the qualifying mark. Entries close GW29 deadline.
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1. Red Viper
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Dont publicize too much, I am a borderline case to qualify 😛 😉
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  1. TorresMagic™
    11 years, 9 months ago
    It's the quiet time during the week. Got 20 good new entries on Monday but nothing since.
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2. Dogba
  11 years, 9 months ago
  What are we expecting the qualifying rank to end up being? I can do like 15k if I'm lucky 😐
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  1. TorresMagic™
    11 years, 9 months ago
    Expecting 10K but might be higher.
    15K would be pushing it.
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3. Schürrle Class
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Stop posting this. We get the whole point by now
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PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
11 years, 9 months ago
Why is it that any person that has the Special One attached to their name on this site has to endear themselves to the Special club of total Numb Headiness.
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1. The Shadow
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Does 'special one' not have the same connotation over there that it does here, i.e. one who is special because of a mental disability?
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  1. Give The Todd Some Love
    11 years, 9 months ago
    I think that's the irony
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    1. The Shadow
      11 years, 9 months ago
      I always thought Mourinho was being self-deprecating when he gave himself the title, but perhaps I misunderstood.
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2. Ryan
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Best to ignore such types. They are just trying to wind people up
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Scoredelario
11 years, 9 months ago
I am considering keeping all of the following for their upcoming doubles, despite a blank in gw29 (I'd have 7 players starting for gw29):

mcgregor

collins baines coleman

silva yaya

Suarez Sturridge

Is it crazy to keep them all through a blank? I just think I'd be so well set up for the remainder of the season it could pay off.
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1. Get up ya bum
  11 years, 9 months ago
  One step behind in gw 29 is one step ahead in gw31. I think you are right to ignore 29 and focus on the dgw mate
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  1. Scoredelario
    11 years, 9 months ago
    yeah, i can't really justify selling any of them except maybe Silva. I got burnt already by the everton and city cancellations so I feel I should keep them for their game in hand!
    
    I did sell dzeko though. What a horrible buy he was!
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    1. Get up ya bum
      11 years, 9 months ago
      THAT miss! 😯
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      1. Scoredelario
        11 years, 9 months ago
        🙁
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Dr Dream
11 years, 9 months ago
Roy Keane is right...and it's déjà vu time...Anybody recall last year when attitudes changed at City?...couldn't really put you finger on it but it always showed in interviews and body language..Then lo and behold the truth came out about dressing room bust ups and factions...I wonder if we are seeing the same thing at United?
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1. Hibbo
  11 years, 9 months ago
  You read the Giles book?
  
  He's a great advocate of the thought that whatever is going on in the dressing room training ground manifests itself on the pitch.
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  1. Dr Dream
    11 years, 9 months ago
    Gilles?...as in Johnny Giles?
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    1. Hibbo
      11 years, 9 months ago
      Yeah. Its a good read Wakey.
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  11 years, 9 months ago
  Yes.
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3. isacki: full casual
  11 years, 9 months ago
  It's been long claimed RVP is unhappy due to Fergie leaving when he signed on the understanding he was there, and Rene leaving. If he were unhappy it would probably be rather important...
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  1. JK - Cønt ⭐
    11 years, 9 months ago
    just get Fergie back till the summer, then get Van Gaal, that'll do nicely
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    1. Dr Dream
      11 years, 9 months ago
      yeah...
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FPL Daniel
11 years, 9 months ago
I feel sorry for United fans. Poor u
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Granville
11 years, 9 months ago
I guess United are going to need to do what Liverpool did. Come back from 2 behind against Olympiakos.
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1. FPL Daniel
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Hint: Who was Liverpool manager that time?
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Silent Alarm
11 years, 9 months ago
Haha how awful is Rio
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1. Kylos
  11 years, 9 months ago
  still a better love story than smalling.....and twilight
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FPL Daniel
11 years, 9 months ago
Moyesssssssssssss il presidenteeeeeeeeee, Moyes for President !!! Fak Yeah !!!

Eat that Moyes Mr. "few knocks and niggles"
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Give The Todd Some Love
11 years, 9 months ago
Why did I ever get Pozuelo? I knew he wouldn't start but I got him anyway

WHY????
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1. applebonkers
  11 years, 9 months ago
  because he's glamorous yet still dirt cheap. like a fancy jacket from TK maxx which you never end up wearing
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  1. Licky
    11 years, 9 months ago
    Its always comforting to know its waiting in the wardrobe though.
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    1. Give The Todd Some Love
      11 years, 9 months ago
      Except it's not comforting. Every time you look at it you think 'man, what the hell was I thinking? I don't have the skill to pull that off!'
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2. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
  11 years, 9 months ago
  You and me both mate
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There's Always One!
11 years, 9 months ago
It's starting to look like mata was rvp's replacement. Rooney up front with mata behind. And if rvp said that tonight I think he should be sold.
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1. Give The Todd Some Love
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Rooney should have been sold. That ship has sailed now I guess.
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  1. There's Always One!
    11 years, 9 months ago
    He has a better playing attitude than rvp
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    1. Licky
      11 years, 9 months ago
      Somebody pointed out how he doesn't look after himself and couldn't see him lasting into his thirties. His attitude off field is terrible too. Not an easy situation at all.
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      1. GreennRed
        11 years, 9 months ago
        RVP uses hair products in an obvious way. End of 😉
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        Licky
        11 years, 9 months ago
        I'm sure he needs Colleen to dress him never mind maintain his hair. 😉
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        GreennRed
        11 years, 9 months ago
        She can dress me anytime she wants 🙂
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    2. Give The Todd Some Love
      11 years, 9 months ago
      Off the pitch Rooney is cancerous. We've seen it countless times, the whining, the moaning, the 'I'm gonna leave because I'm not the star player'. And now they've dug themselves into a huge hole by giving him a contract worthy of the best player in the world, when Rooney isn't even the best player at the club (based on last season at least). Things could get worse before they get better.
      
      Should have sold.
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      1. Licky
        11 years, 9 months ago
        Regardless of what the fans say, they have RVP and would have made a pretty penny, if anything Moyes shouldn't be applauded for keeping him at the club but ridiculed for not having the character cut the dead weight adrift and begin anew.
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        Give The Todd Some Love
        11 years, 9 months ago
        It's a very tricky situation, considering Rooney has been the only good thing about United this season other than Adnan. But the contract is just crazy
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      2. Somalion
        11 years, 9 months ago
        Thank you! Feel like I'm taking crazy pills here, Rooney is utterly toxic for the club. Absolutely completely toxic.
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        Give The Todd Some Love
        11 years, 9 months ago
        In fairness I'm mainly talking from the benefit of hindsight. In the summer I thought United really should keep Rooney. But it's the contract that I have massive issues with, as the rest of the squad do/will. I guess that was the price of keeping him, and it certainly isn't a price worth paying
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        Licky
        11 years, 9 months ago
        What surprised me greatly was that they offered him this contract at a time when, on top of their debt, they will need to reduce the wage bill with Champions League clearly out of reach. This will ultimately hurt the club dearly, and I can honestly see United stuck with Rooney when he's toxic, terrible and worthless financially.
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        Give The Todd Some Love
        11 years, 9 months ago
        Interesting point. I wonder who actually made the decision to offer him such a lucrative contract
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        Somalion
        11 years, 9 months ago
        Bit more to that than meets the eye fellas.
        United actually are registering huge profits which is helping them cut their debt rather well. Also have restructured an interest payment on debt which cuts how much they pay by something like 10 million pounds a year. Then they have a possible new Jersey contract with Adidas worth somewhere in the region of 700 million pound sterling over 10 years.
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        Give The Todd Some Love
        11 years, 9 months ago
        Do you think the Glazers will be willing to invest a lot of money in the summer transfer market then?
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        Somalion
        11 years, 9 months ago
        It is hard to say. Their financials are improving, I believe the debt attached to United is half what it was when first bought. So there is money, certainly with the loan adjustments and Jersey deal.
        
        I think they know this is a huge business, if they let it sink by not investing then they're ruined unless they sell the club. United is still the most profitable club in the UK, they won't let that potential slip would be my belief.
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        Licky
        11 years, 9 months ago
        Indeed they have done well, but a lack of Champions league football is a different kettle of fish, and lucrative contracts and large spending will make matters work. Just ask Fenway Sports Group.
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        Somalion
        11 years, 9 months ago
        It is problematic of course but that may offset the cl loss with their higher profit intakes.
        
        Of course they require some shrewd buying too. Bilbao, Lyon, Werder Bremen, Porto clubs that have talent but would not be seen as the top teams in their countries (aside from Porto). A lot of talented players will go to United regardless of CL, they must find them first though. I want them to get Herrera, he would be a great buy.
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        Somalion
        11 years, 9 months ago
        This is my thinking exactly, all this worry he'll somehow create an unstoppable system at Chelsea. Let them pay through the nose for him and his huge wages, see how that settles with the other big egos at Chelsea. And when something goes wrong, let them convince him to stay. This attitude corrupts the younger players too. And next season or the season after he'll kick up a fuss again.
        
        To justify this he needs to be the top goal scorer in the league next season by a significant margin for me to have even a shred of respect for him.
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    3. UnderstandablyDistraught
      11 years, 9 months ago
      Have to disagree with this. For a player who should be claiming the captaincy of the club, Rooney has too much petulant ego. He's not a leader. RVP - don't care, lost respect for hime when he ditched Arsenal and I sincerely hope they dont take him back
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  2. The Shadow
    11 years, 9 months ago
    Can't possibly move him with the new wages.
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    1. Give The Todd Some Love
      11 years, 9 months ago
      Exactly
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  3. Bubz
    11 years, 9 months ago
    I find it mind boggling that they have offered him that contract. Rooney strikes me as the type of player that once he gets on the other side of 30 and loses a yard of pace, will decline in quality very abruptly. Stuck with him for 5 and a half years now.
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    1. Give The Todd Some Love
      11 years, 9 months ago
      He can barely maintain fitness now and he's in his prime
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    2. aehii
      11 years, 9 months ago
      I'm in total agreement with so many here about Rooney, but why can't the media sense this? Moyes too, the media adore them both.
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      1. Give The Todd Some Love
        11 years, 9 months ago
        The media don't adore Moyes
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      2. Licky
        11 years, 9 months ago
        The media are biased, personally I found it difficult that they didn't notice how Evra didn't exactly cover himself in glory with the Suarez affair, he tried to break Suarez up, lucky for Suarez, Rio was in the way. The handshake was borderline as well, they weren't looking at each other and Evra made an absolute meal of Suarez's petty mistake.
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FPL Blow-In
11 years, 9 months ago
What was the necessary score?
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1. FPL Blow-In
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Whoops Reply fail to @AZ
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2. applebonkers
  11 years, 9 months ago
  55-58
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  1. FPL Blow-In
    11 years, 9 months ago
    Thanks
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3. Give The Todd Some Love
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Read the article
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  1. FPL Blow-In
    11 years, 9 months ago
    Just logged on sorry. The time it took you to post that you could have just wrote the score? Thanks anyway.
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McSauce
11 years, 9 months ago
Best 3 city for the DGW?? GO!!
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1. money face bandwagon
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Kun yaya hart for me
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2. Kings of Lyon ★
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Kun Silva Zaba
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  1. In Like Flynn.
    11 years, 9 months ago
    Silva?
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3. Suave
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Kun, Yaya, Komp
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4. In Like Flynn.
  11 years, 9 months ago
  K
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  1. In Like Flynn.
    11 years, 9 months ago
    K,Y,Z I don't know what happened first time.
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~SpartakMac
11 years, 9 months ago
Probably a bit late on this one, but what does Rooney honestly spend his 300k a week on?

Can only buy so many holiday homes abroad which he'll use for 1 week a year or cars to drive a couple of miles here and there.

Does he donate a big chunk to charity or has his own foundation?
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1. Whitman2013
  11 years, 9 months ago
  doubtful....
  
  lovers behind coleens back
  
  hey im sure i could blow 37k a day
  
  oh and a quick point..... he probs earns double this with sponsorships and add ons and what not....
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  1. wood is good
    11 years, 9 months ago
    but 40% less once taxed
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    1. Whitman2013
      11 years, 9 months ago
      poor guy :P.
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2. Caine & Co.
  11 years, 9 months ago
  He wants to earn more than qnyone else. Its not qbout spending the money
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  1. ~SpartakMac
    11 years, 9 months ago
    Nail, meet head.
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3. Hibbo
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Hair plugs, pukka pies and making that rat he's going with look above average.
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FPL Daniel
11 years, 9 months ago
Moyes needs to be honest on press and give us real injury news. he lying all the time is bad karma
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1. Syd.
  11 years, 9 months ago
  They were just unlucky
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Optimus.
11 years, 9 months ago
March 16th Man Utd v Liverpool

March 19th Man Utd v Olympiakos

The former result will impact alot confidence wise going into the latter..
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1. Bubz
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Will get battered by L'pool
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  1. Somalion
    11 years, 9 months ago
    Coming from a guy who has a Liverpool supporting brother and would love nothing more than a United win, this.
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  2. Licky
    11 years, 9 months ago
    Wouldn't surprise me if we lost to be honest, would be oh so typical of Liverpool. Having said that if United play like they did tonight, and with Liverpool's two weeks of preparation, though could get absolutely mauled, Old Trafford or not.
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2. onionbarje
  11 years, 9 months ago
  not really we beat CPL 2-0 and then lost 2-0
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3. isacki: full casual
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Oh I'd really worry for whoever United play next if they lose.
  
  Oh wait.... wrong manager.
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Hibbo
11 years, 9 months ago
People talk about 442 etc when the real issue is players within the system not doing it.
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1. alastair
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Yes - even 20 years when every team played 4-4-2 to make it work required a Paul Ince or David Batty - Carrick and Cleverly are not suited
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  1. Hibbo
    11 years, 9 months ago
    People talk football we need a double pivot three attacking mids it makes me laugh to be honest.
    
    How about players play? Managers motivate?
    
    Tactics are important but they are often the fall guy.
    
    Players need to have the courage to show some responsibility to get on the ball and play.
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    1. tm245
      11 years, 9 months ago
      Just on and reading the comments -- agree with this. Rooney's positioning isn't because of bad tactics, it's because the others are so shockingly far from world class that he has to be everywhere.
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  2. Granville
    11 years, 9 months ago
    Blaming 4-4-2 is lazy analysis. I see it all the time.
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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      11 years, 9 months ago
      Tim Sherwood
      
      "Players decide the outcome, not formations"
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      1. JWF
        11 years, 9 months ago
        So I agree that blaming formations is lazy and by no means the only factor but Sherwood is a poor choice of manager to back this up. Sherwood is tactically naive and his player selection, formations and tactics definitely contribute to poor performances. Saying that his formations etc. don't decide the outcome shows his lack of tactical nous.
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      11 years, 9 months ago
      Unless the opposition set up to counteract it, in which case failure to adapt is the problem and the manager is to blame.
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2. Parm
  11 years, 9 months ago
  If the players don't suit the system, then find a system that suits the players.
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  1. Hibbo
    11 years, 9 months ago
    This is a perfect example of the point I'm making.
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The Beta particle
11 years, 9 months ago
wow united are bad i wonder why they don't fire moyes?
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1. UnderstandablyDistraught
  11 years, 9 months ago
  After today's loss he returned to Manchester and finally presented his secret plan to the board. His contract has been extended, commensurate to that of Rooney
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2. Phaze 1
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Prob mostly down to SAF's pride at this point. Doesn't wanna admit the epic fail
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The Enlightener
11 years, 9 months ago
They are going to fire him eventually. Just depends on when. Should be tomorrow. Probably won't be until next season.
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King Kohli
11 years, 9 months ago
Lets be realistic.

United are not gonna play in the champions league next season.

Who do you think they could realistically attract to improve their squad?

They need AT THE VERY LEAST 1 RB , 1 CB , 1 LB , 2 CM , 1 WINGER

Can they get any of the below mentioned and more importantly, would it improve United?

Caulker
Tiote
Lallana
Wanyama

Feel free to add to this list.
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1. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Other than lallana those players are poor
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  1. Scab
    11 years, 9 months ago
    I rate caulker
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    1. King Kohli
      11 years, 9 months ago
      Can get him for 10m when Cardiff get relegated.
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  2. King Kohli
    11 years, 9 months ago
    If they cant offer champions league, who can they get?
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2. Get up ya bum
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Van persie will almost certainly be wanting out so you can add a striker to that list
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3. Scab
  11 years, 9 months ago
  1 manager
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4. McEwan
  11 years, 9 months ago
  A clear out is needed. Been getting away with taking poor players through, and into the squad for a few years because of the solid shell to the side. Now that has well and truely shattered, these players are being found out. Likes of Smalling and Cleverly have been blooded to plug gaps in the good sides of the past, now being asked to play a big part shows them as they are.
  
  The players on that list would all probably improve Utd ATM. Tiote isn't much of a player IMO, but at least he gets about. Utd midfield has deteriorated over the last few years, everyone has witnessed it except anyone with a connection to Utds transfer policy!
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  1. King Kohli
    11 years, 9 months ago
    You got it spot on.
    
    United have far too many "Squad Players" and not enough first teamers.
    
    But i Think United can do far worse than getting Lallana (25yrs) & Caulker(21-22 yrs) for a combined total of note more than 30m.
    
    Both of them are easily United class imo.
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Piggs Boson
11 years, 9 months ago
Who remembers Everton's orgasmic football toward the end of last season? Their passing and movement was irresistible toward the end.

I don't think having a complete overhaul of staff was ever going to be a smooth transition (SAF knew this) but I think that given time and investment, Moyes can evolve United into a serious force again. Let's face it, he hasn't done much worse that SAF did in his first season.
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1. Beavis
  11 years, 9 months ago
  SAF didn't have the then PL winners though.
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  1. UnderstandablyDistraught
    11 years, 9 months ago
    Perhaps that made it easier for him to build his own team?
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2. Obi Wan Elokobi
  11 years, 9 months ago
  He's done a lot worse with a better team and more money than Ferguson had.
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  1. UnderstandablyDistraught
    11 years, 9 months ago
    bullshit. am no Moyes fan but this is utter crap
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    1. Obi Wan Elokobi
      11 years, 9 months ago
      Explain he spent £30 million on Fellaini and had a premiership winning team
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      1. UnderstandablyDistraught
        11 years, 9 months ago
        Ferguson, in the last couple of years of his tenure, was playing for the short term. Yes, Man U won the league but in one way that served to camouflage the shortcomings of the team, shortcomings which really became evident this year. Moyes did not arrive at OT until early Aug and was trying to work a xfer market with an executive who is essentially a banker with no experience in such matters. Not exactly a recipe for preseason success. Roll forward a few weeks and Fellaini was about the best he could do. Is Fellaini's lack of success this year the fault of Moyes also?
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        Obi Wan Elokobi
        11 years, 9 months ago
        I'd say so because he wasn't that bad at Everton. Bad management not needed in the current man u team
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        UnderstandablyDistraught
        11 years, 9 months ago
        He was very good at Everton(under Moyes) and was wanted by many "top" teams. The man u midfield is toothless and if Evans is unavailable the center of their defense is porous. Team needs a major upgrade in many areas, something that could not have been achieved last summer
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3. ~SpartakMac
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Clutching at straws here, hard to fix the many holes to this sinking ship.
  
  Rooney saga certainly doesn't help, but Moyes has far from covered himself in glory.
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4. In Like Flynn.
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Maybe this is why SAF gave Moyes a six year contract, so the owners either had to give him the time SAF perhaps knew it would take or give him a huge pay off.
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  1. Licky
    11 years, 9 months ago
    So the two of them can retire with their cache to the Bahamas? 😀
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    1. In Like Flynn.
      11 years, 9 months ago
      Race horses Ireland more like. 😉
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      1. Licky
        11 years, 9 months ago
        Living the high life as well as regular trips to V\egas. 😉
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5. aehii
  11 years, 9 months ago
  I don't think everton played orgasmic football, that's an incredible exaggeration, they were just decent for me.
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6. Licky
  11 years, 9 months ago
  I'd say a lot of it is down to the fact he hasn't got the balls to imprint his own philosophy onto the squad, he seems so tactically inept.
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  1. Piggs Boson
    11 years, 9 months ago
    I think the media have tinted your eyes. Is he really a puny little man with no backbone, 50 IQ and no soul?
    I think he's trying to implement his own style and the players are used to playing a different way. It'll take time.
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    1. Licky
      11 years, 9 months ago
      Why yield to Rooney? Why not accept the squad needed an overhaul? At this point his decisions are dictated by the pressure he is now under. United narrowly lost out at Anfield, they played well I thought, but Ultimately the motivation wasn't there to sustain a title or even a top four charge.
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      1. Piggs Boson
        11 years, 9 months ago
        Overhaul? Each player that comes in must be of the right quality, and that quality is very hard to buy. He tried to get players like Fabregas, but it's not easy.
        
        And Rooney is an exceptional player. Irreplaceable imo. Like I said above, players of that quality are very hard to come by.
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        Licky
        11 years, 9 months ago
        An overhaul can also meet dropping the dead weight and building for the future, working within the constraints is an art Moyes should be well used to. Big signings aren't the way forward now.
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~SpartakMac
11 years, 9 months ago
Very lazy, but can anyone sum up the main points from those in the pro-Moyes camp?
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1. Obi Wan Elokobi
  11 years, 9 months ago
  He makes 4th spot a lot easier to get
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2. Bubz
  11 years, 9 months ago
  He's Scottish. Sir Alex was also Scottish. Continuity of Scottishness is important.
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3. Hibbo
  11 years, 9 months ago
  *tumbleweed*
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4. aehii
  11 years, 9 months ago
  Everton 5th/6th/7th/8th place on tight budget for several years.
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  1. Bubz
    11 years, 9 months ago
    I think this is actually a negative point. He was with Everton for so long, grinding out these league positions. And he was good at it. But he doesn't have that winning mentality that's needed at a club like Man Utd.
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  2. Shankly Gates
    11 years, 9 months ago
    Or he held Everton back for 10 years and wants to do the same at United. Don't ask me this but I'd say a few Everton fans Do believe it after the work Martinez has done with a fairly similar squad.
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5. Piggs Boson
  11 years, 9 months ago
  You're talking to FFSers! I'm afraid we have short term memories, usually only spanning back one GW. Looking back to Moyes' pre-United career is beyond our scope!
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  1. Obi Wan Elokobi
    11 years, 9 months ago
    That's the past though what does that have to do with anything he does at United?
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    11 years, 9 months ago
    What pre United career?
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6. Parm
  11 years, 9 months ago
  He's doing better than Fergie is his first season.
  
  That's about it.
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  1. Obi Wan Elokobi
    11 years, 9 months ago
    Fergie won something, had a worse team and also no where near as much money people forget these stats
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    1. UnderstandablyDistraught
      11 years, 9 months ago
      you really are pulling the wool over your eyes
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      1. Obi Wan Elokobi
        11 years, 9 months ago
        Not at all you're clutching at any straws you can get at because United fans of now a days just don't know how to cope with what is going on
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        UnderstandablyDistraught
        11 years, 9 months ago
        I'm not clutching at any straws as I'm not a Man U fan and couldn't care less what happens to them. As a non fan maybe my point of view is a little more objective. Everybody knew that any manager coming in after Ferg would have an adjustment period, as would the team. The Fergie days are over, it's a different club now and it has to go down a bit before it can reform and bounce back
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        Spin
        11 years, 9 months ago
        If theyd have got a proper manager there would have been no 'down a bit'
        The PL isnt that great a league. Losing to the likes of WB, Newcastle, Stoke, is unacceptable as well as shoddy draws with Cardiff, Southampton and Fulham is the only reason theyre not in the top 3.
        
        Any who tells me Mourinho or another decent manager wouldnt have got those results is talking rubbish.
        Everyone saying lack of quality but the squad is full of enough quality to win matches like those.
        As for wasting 64million on Fellaini and Mata!!!! Cabaye, Lallana, Matic etc were all available to be bought and nothing was done
        
        Moyes out, end of story.
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        UnderstandablyDistraught
        11 years, 9 months ago
        Man U fans will have to get used to having lower expectations than they're used to for a while. End of story. But, ok, Moyes out then and let's see how you go.
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        UnderstandablyDistraught
        11 years, 9 months ago
        Wonder why Mourinho did not take the job. Surely it would have been his if he wanted it. Hmmmm
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        Spin
        11 years, 9 months ago
        I would have Moyes out in an instant! There are many better managers who could do more with that squad, did you see how inept they were tonight?
        Its a tactical mess since day one and that has less to do with players and more to do with coaching and management.
        Even Tim Sherwood is doing a better job and he's been a manager what, 12 days?
        I truly believe that Pulis or Allardyce would have had a better season than Moyes (not that i want them as his replacement)
        Poyet and Pardew are even doing more with their squads.
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        UnderstandablyDistraught
        11 years, 9 months ago
        Strange that Moyes outperformed both of them for years but they would both do a better job? I think you have blinkers on
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        Spin
        11 years, 9 months ago
        Allardyce was always at a smaller club than Everton.
        Pardew outperformed Moyes by 9 points just 2 yrs ago.
        Pulis was working with peanuts and making miracles happen at Stoke.
        Are Everton better or worse this yr with Martinez?
        
        Success at Everton was finishing behind the big 6 and above the minnows like Sunderland, WBA, Stoke, Bolton etc etc. Success at United requires you actually be good at what you do, not average.
        Moyes record V big teams at Everton was woeful. One tactic, one way of playing...hence Uniteds predictability and averageness this season.
        
        If you think Moyes is the man for a job at one of the top 3 biggest clubs in the world it is you who's blinkered. Blind actually....
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ccc
11 years, 9 months ago
Yaya to ? Already have Hazard, Mata, Sterling, Lallana. Maxed out on LIV players. Any idea? I cannot find a decent replacement.
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1. ccc
  11 years, 9 months ago
  I bought him at 10.1
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  1. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
    11 years, 9 months ago
    Ince
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    11 years, 9 months ago
    I have the same mid and I'm keeping.
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Spencer
11 years, 9 months ago
Drawn first out of the hat, but up against caber boy who's ranked 497.

Oh my. 🙁
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1. Spencer
  11 years, 9 months ago
  *caherboy
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