[sbu_large_image] Preamble
19 April 2014 1069 comments
Mark Mark
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Ultimate is a big word and, I have to admit, having tinkered with the Premier League’s new Fantasy game offering I was more than a little skeptical.

Initially I missed the interaction of weekly transfers. I seemed able to absorb injuries and loss of form with some ease, very rarely having to consider thinking outside of my 25-man squad. Equally, I was able to put out a strong XI, leading to me to think that the formula for success was simply to concentrate on the familiar big hitters and pad the squad out with cheap fodder. Most of all, I feared that the robust player template that has somewhat hindered variety in the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) this season, would be an even greater obstacle in the Ultimate scenario.

As the season has progressed, however, mounting injuries and suspensions have gradually unlocked new experiences that I’ve rarely seen in other Fantasy games, with new subtle strategies revealing themselves.

I never really thought I’d be watching out for Kenwyne Jones’ points and yet, today, I’m hoping he gets a run-out against his former club in hope he can deliver for my Ultimate lineup. Equally, I’m left pondering just how many defenders to include on my bench to cover myself over the Gameweek and whether Jake Livermore’s combative qualities against Arsenal will see him outscore the cavalier Raheem Sterling at Carrow Road. Suddenly players that have long been redundant in FPL, are real factors in my thinking for the weekend.

It’s Ultimate’s loan system that could just be the killer mechanic. While we’re robbed of free weekly transfers, the ability to loan in players for varied point costs offers the option to freshen things up and replace injured squad members. As mentioned, at first this seems redundant – a few Gameweeks in and it seems you rarely need to look beyond your existing setup. Two months into the season, this view will change dramatically.

In both my Ultimate seasons so far, my injury list has mounted up by seven or eight Gameweeks in, forcing me to consider emergency loans. While at first this seems restrictive – with point costs a considerable barrier – eventually the appeal of dipping into the loan market reveals itself.

While any number of players can be shipped in as part of a loan agreement, you can only have one agreement in place at once. In addition, the longer you loan in a player, the cheaper he costs and the more value you can potentially extract from them. Both elements are crucial to the strategy of playing the loan market. Both seem skillfully designed and may just be the key to making Ultimate a major pull to the dedicated Fantasy manager.

I’m sitting here this morning with Eden Hazard and Yaya Toure both laid low – the need to bring in some loan replacements is obvious. The trick, however, is not so much to identify the targets but to consider just how much I pay for their services before I recall both Hazard and Toure. I have to consider when they will be back to fitness and when their services will be preferred to the players I’m loaning in. I also have to be sure that, if I agree a long-term agreement today, I’m not going to regret that a week from now and be boxed in. I can only have one agreement in place, so settle on a four-Gameweek term for players today and I’m forced to cancel this agreement and lose those points should I need further loans during that spell. These are avenues I’ve never been asked to explore in other Fantasy games, not least FPL. It’s demanding but it feels good to be applying new areas of the grey matter to my Saturday Fantasy thinking.

Equally, the fears over the template squad are somewhat dispelled by the loan system. The players I can bring in can be effective differentials – Christian Eriksen was selected by under 4% of Ultimate players in their initial squads, which is no surprise given his form at the time. Those who loan him now are certain to get an edge, knowing that those who wish to cover this will have to pay points – up to ten, if they are to benefit from his close season form.

Eriksen has scored 49 points over his last four Gameweeks – if I spend ten points on loaning him in until Gameweek 38, will he pay that back with dividends and outscore the player he replaces? This is a far easier decision when he’s replacing the injured Toure, but I ask myself whether I’d be brave enough to start using loans to replace active but out-of-form members of my squad.

That strategy offers a route for a whole new “maverick” Fantasy manager. They will have the option to back their talent to hit form players as a method of closing in on those who perhaps were able to construct strong squads with their initial selections. The mini-league leaders will be there to be shot at, reluctant to spend points to replace active players, while those chasing can play the loan system to find differentials and hope to close in.

My failing FPL season has undoubtedly allowed me to focus on Ultimate in the past month. I’m not sure how comfortable I’ll be should they compete for my attention in equal measure. I do know that Ultimate brings something new to the table – I’m making new decisions, toying with new strategies and looking out for Kenwyne Jones. Believe it or not, that feels good.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. rdpx
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Anyone, or any NFC fans, know what is deal with Dummett. He played 90 last week but didn't get games 2 previous. I probably need to lose him whether he plays or not.

    In other news, is Smalling looking nailed on at MUFC for rest of the season, or is Jones worth the extra cash?

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  2. Van Dal
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Im an outlaw! Quick on the draw!

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    1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      U wot m8?

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      1. Van Dal
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Come again son?

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  3. Cak Juris
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Who should be benched?
    A. McCartney
    B. Coleman
    C. Ward

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    1. mubin
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      McCartney

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  4. floydy_floyd
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Start ward or Coleman?

    Already playing Baines.

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    1. Al Bundy
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Ward

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    2. SvenGoranErskine
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      My dillema too. Similar odds for a clean sheet but Cokeman has the goal power.
      Currently on Coleman... but so often end up benching wards points.

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    3. mubin
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Same dilemma. Maybe Ward.

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  5. snowman
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    best person to get in this gw for yaya?

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    1. Cak Juris
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      1. Eriksen
      2. Mata
      3. Nasri

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    2. snowman
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      eriksen or mata?

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      1. snowman
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        The other will get in next week

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    3. Zat Knight Rises
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Surely you're not still co soldering this at this stage of the week?!?

      For this week only, Gerrard, Eriksson

      For longer term view, Mata

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    4. Kowalski
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Eriksen this week, Mata next

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  6. unoaime
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    On WC.

    Better to have Rooney or have Giroud/Adebayor or someone so there's more funds to spend in midfield?

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    1. Grumpy Camel
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      rooney if fit
      ade if not
      never giroud

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  7. Santi sensei
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    How many of your players in action today ?

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    1. Chucky
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      5 (Bony,Eriksen,Cahill,Azpili & Speroni)

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      1. Santi sensei
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Good luck with Bony Chucky 🙂

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        1. Chucky
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          thanks MMT . Goodluck 🙂

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    2. SW6
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      4

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    3. Buck The Trent
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      4

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    4. Santi sensei
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Me only 3. Gonna be very long waiting for tomorrow's matches

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    5. SvenGoranErskine
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      5

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  8. waltzingmatildas
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Thinking of saving transfer, is that sensible?

    Boruc
    Ward Coleman vlaar
    Nasri lallana puncheon eriksen
    Suarez aguero lukaku

    Speroni MOlsson yaya bardsley

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    1. Buck The Trent
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Yeap

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  9. Somalion
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    It's been established before that Silva can't play multiple games but isn't this the first time that Pelle has claimed he's still injured after a week of rest?

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  10. Billy Gilmore
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    "In both my Ultimate seasons so far..."

    Que?

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    1. Jafooli
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      2 teams.......reported.

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  11. nesta807
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Who to bench?
    Sterling-Norwich (racked up 12 pts in reverse fixture)
    Lallana-villa
    Mutch - STOKE
    Puncheon - west ham
    Erikson is my other mid and is def starting 11.

    I have SAR as my strike force

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  12. EmreCan Hustle
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Sorry re-post

    I'm playing Mata, should I...

    A. Still start Coleman

    Or

    B. Start Demel instead and bench Coleman?
    (Have Terry and Cahill as my other 2 defenders)

    Thanks.

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  13. Shorty89
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Silva then?
    Silva -> Mata or Nasri for (-4)
    or just have Shaw roll off the bench?

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  14. goran
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Who should be benched?
    1.Nolan
    2.Dzeko

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    1. Tommytour
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      No way should you bench Dzeko

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    2. Jafooli
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Someone else.....play those two

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  15. Tommytour
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    If I register in England next year for UFPL do you think I could continue playing in UAE?

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    1. Soccerooby
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      You can be anywhere in the world to play UFPL. Certainly Dubai and Poland as I live.

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      1. Tommytour
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        It didn't let me this year and I have a VPN

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  16. Adams6
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    I'm pondering Aguero (c) over Suarez as I'm sure my ML rival will go Suarez - I'm 50 behind.
    SHould I do it or wait until next week?

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  17. Give The Todd Some Love
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    I still have Ince 😆

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    1. Chucky
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Pozuelo here 😆

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    2. Santi sensei
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      No one here 😀

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    3. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Yoshida 😯

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  18. OptimusBlack
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Which is better ?

    A- Silva playing and Dummett first sub

    B- Silva > Nasri / Mata but for -8

    Already Lukaku , Sturridge , Yaya > Aguero , Adebayor ,Erisken ,

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  19. Merlinho
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Bench order: Cameron, Coleman, AJ

    Is that right? Didn't realise Silva almost certainly out, tempted by a hit for Mata but not sure worth it..

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  20. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    keep baines or goalman for 1 final ?week

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    1. Bad Pen
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      I'd keep Baines if you can.

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        ta

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  21. applebonkers
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    is this right or should i play harewood as modric has champions league in midweek? http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_sUkj8XORUpE/TGXRhZFWs2I/AAAAAAAAAJk/bO3-h3bAhWk/s1600/grumblers+10.11.JPG

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    1. Give The Todd Some Love
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Harewood, what a legend

      He's playing for Hartlepool now

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        they hang monkeys...

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    2. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Tottenham and Champions League in the same sentence 😯

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    3. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Start Ferguson, 3 baps guaranteed for that chap.

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    4. applebonkers
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      thanks all

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  22. jaco
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Start one

    Ward
    Coleman
    Snoddy
    Mutch

    Currently starting Coleman and Snoddy 1st sub

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    1. nesta807
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      I'm thinking Mutch, home game against Stoke and everything to play for.

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    2. SvenGoranErskine
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Mutch

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  23. JayBomb
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Tell me this why would Silva play any part at all in the game if he doesn't start ? Put him in and have a good first sub. The right decision ????

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    1. Art Vandelay
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Just asked the same below. I don't think I could deal with another Puncheon goal stuck on the bench by a cameo.

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  24. mubin
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Please help, start 3 out of:

    1.Vlaar
    2.Coleman
    3.Baines
    4.Mariappa
    5.Ibanovic

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    1. Jafooli
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      1,3,5

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      1. mubin
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Thanks Jaf 🙂

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    2. Luis Suarez Ate My Homework
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      2,3,5.

      Everton 1-0
      Chelsea 2-0

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      1. mubin
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        That confident for Everton?

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  25. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    So who's taken a hit?

    one here.....

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    1. Art Vandelay
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Not yet. 😆

      Contemplating Silva to Mata

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      1. You Must Be Jokin Ere
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Hurry up!

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        1. Art Vandelay
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          plenty of time...

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    2. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      o/

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    3. You Must Be Jokin Ere
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      One hit.

      Yaya & Lukaku out. Sterling & Agurero in.

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    4. Chucky
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      same

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      1. nesta807
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Lukaku and Yaya out for Rooney and Erikson.

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    5. mubin
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      o/
      -8 here

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    6. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      yep

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    7. Hamstergod
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      I've been taking hits the last three weeks, so far so good.

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  26. Art Vandelay
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Are we of the belief that Silva will either start or not be in the squad? Thinking of starting him ahead of Puncheon and don't think I could handle a cameo preventing bench points coming in.

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    1. Luis Suarez Ate My Homework
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      He's currently at 25% and the manager said he won't play. I'm making him first sub.

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      1. Luis Suarez Ate My Homework
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Scratch that, keeping him in and dropping Dzeko to first sub! 😉 😉

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        1. Art Vandelay
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          Same here, but really worrying about a cameo. Might just do Silva to Mata and be done with it. 😀

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  27. Luis Suarez Ate My Homework
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Am going with the following and hoping for the best:

    Cech
    Skrtel Ward Coleman
    Puncheon SIlva Lallana Gerrard Mirallas
    Suarez Lukaku

    Mannone Dzeko Shaw Collins

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    1. Tommytour
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Play Dzeko you lunatic

      Over Mirallas

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      1. Luis Suarez Ate My Homework
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Will he start? doubt it.

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        1. Tommytour
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          Yep pretty sure he will

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        2. Konig Luther
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          i think yes... he started on bench last game... and they will play with 2 forwards

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    2. Sloopy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Dzeko on the bench??????? Imo he will play en get some points..

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  28. BigManBakar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Three short simple questions requiring three short simple answers

    -Lukaku to Aguero worth a hit this week?
    -Lambert to Aguero worth a hit this week?
    -Silva to Mata/Gerrard/any other worth a hit this week? (Others mids are Punch,Mutch,Eriksen Nasri)

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    1. Luis Suarez Ate My Homework
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      A.

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    2. Henry Hill
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      No to all three

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    3. Tommytour
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Yes
      Yes
      Maybe

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    4. Chucky
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      No
      No
      Silva to Salah 😉

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  29. goran
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Eriksen--Mirallas--Cazorla--Mata--Nolan

    Aguero--Dzeko--Lukaku

    Who should be benched?

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    1. Henry Hill
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Probably Nolan

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  30. Magerost
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Boruc
      Cahill,Ward,Baines
      Eriksen,Sterling,Silva,Nasri
      Suarez(C),Aguero,Lukaku

      Mannone,Mutch,Chambers,Chester

      Used my FT on Yaya->Nasri, 2.1 in bank.

      Good to go? Sub order okay? Play Mutch ahead of Silva?

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