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11 June 2014 1183 comments
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After weeks of deliberating and a couple of false starts, the official FIFA McDonald’s game was rolled out a couple of days ago. A popular choice amongst Fantasy managers for the previous World Cup and Euro 2012, you can find an excellent overview of the basics provided by Bonz in his recent community submission:

With those principles covered, we’ll spend some time in this guide to try and shed some light on the more contentious issues surrounding the rules, suggesting how this might shape the final tweaks in our selection strategy.

The Ruleset

Not for the first time with a Fantasy game based on an international tournament – confusion reigns. While FIFA have revisited their rules laid out when the game initially launched, tweaking the scoring for “Balls Recovered” and adding further detail to how transfers work, in both cases we’re still lacking clarity.

Team Selection
Thankfully, the biggest area of confusion has been ironed out. FIFA have now confirmed that players who have already featured can be swapped during the current round for any relevant player in a squad who has not yet taken to the pitch – essentially, players in a starting XI are not locked in, with the “stick or twist” feature now in play. FIFA has also confirmed that you can change captain as long as your new captain has not already played.

You can change every player in your line-up that has already played during the current round for any other relevant player in your squad that hasn’t already played. You can also change the captain as long as the new captain hasn’t already started to play. For example if you have placed NEYMAR on Your Pitch and he did not perform as well as you expected after the first match you can replace him with a forward from your bench that hasn’t already played during the current round. You would lose the points from NEYMAR for the round but the new player might get more points.

Scoring Points – The Recovered Ball Puzzle
We now move to how our squad actually scores points and an area of considerable confusion. FIFA’s game, as we’ve seen in the past, includes statistics such as “Balls Recovered” and “Balls Delivered into the Penalty Area” within their scoring matrix. Neither is defined in the rules.

We’ve contacted FIFA for clarification but, as it stands, remain in the dark as to how both these scoring methods are defined.

We have some familiarity with “Recovered Balls” or “Recoveries” courtesy of other games such as the Champions League affair and via OPTA’s data definition. The latter states the following:

“This is where a player wins back the ball when it has gone loose or where the ball has been played directly to him.”

This definition created the following top ten players for Recoveries from last season’s Premier League season.

PlayerTeamMinutes PlayedRecoveriesMins/Per Recovery
CameronSTO347120916.61
Ward (Joel)CPL341919917.18
ColemanEVE340218718.19
KoscielnyARS287417616.33
ShawSOT314717517.98
IvanovicCHE335916819.99
SkrtelLIV339116520.55
FonteSOT336016420.49
SagnaARS322116319.76
LovrenSOT294016118.26

However, when we compare this to data from the last World Cup Fantasy game in 2010 (credit to Billy Gilmore’s recent Hot Topic), there’s every indication that the OPTA definition is not the one likely to be used in the FIFA game. Here’s a table listing the top players from that World Cup, ranked by minutes per “Recovered Ball”.

PlayerCountryAppearancesMinutes PlayedRB per gameMins per RB
CoentraoPortugal43603.3327.00
BougherraAlgeria32702.6733.75
ChavezHonduras32702.3338.57
IzaguirreHonduras21802.0039.00
PantsilSouth Africa55102.0045.00
GrichtingSwitzerland32702.0045.00
OnyewuUSA21701.6754.00
R CostaPortugal21791.6056.25
DemelIvory Coast21801.5760.00
ShittuNigeria32701.5060.00

In all cases, the minutes per Recovery, or “Recovered Balls” were far greater in the FIFA data – suggesting that this method of scoring may not be as significant as we imagine. Indeed, with all players now having to earn two recovered balls to score a single point, we should, perhaps, show caution here.

Having said that, we have to presume that FIFA have done some modeling and that this has influenced their player pricing. Certainly it appears that defensive stats – either Recovered Balls or Blocks, have played some part in how they have produced their pricing.

Notably players like Omar Gonzalez and Geoff Cameron both of USA (5.0), are relatively high priced, presumably because, in their case, Recovered Balls and Blocks are expected to be a factor. As we see above, Cameron ranked very highly for recovered balls in the Premier League last season, while Gonzalez, a formidable, towering figure in the American defence, is presumably consider a likely consistent barrier for shots on goal.

The lack of a clear definition makes the effectiveness of Recovered Balls a mystery to us. The player pricing in the game pushes us towards cheap defenders from unfancied sides, in hope that Recovered Balls and Blocks can subsidise the inevitable lack of clean sheets. Right now, it’s not known if this strategy will pay off but, giving the aggressive price list – we’ve little option but to adopt this approach, at least to some extent.

Interestingly, Gary Medel of Chile, a player who normally plies his trade in midfield, is priced at 6.5 in the game, making him by far the most expensive Chilean defender. Presumably because FIFA have based this price on his performances in the Premier League where he made 206 Recoveries and 12 Blocks. He’s likely to be deployed at centre-back for his nation in the tournament: it’s hard to say whether that will enable him to justify his price tag.

We can further speculate on Phillip Lahm and Cesar Azpilicueta. Both are defined as midfielders in the FIFA game but are set to be deployed at full-back. Again, it’s unclear whether this misclassification will help their cause. It should be noted that, as of this evening, FIFA changed their rules meaning that midfielders now need to earn two recovered balls, rather than the original one, to earn a point.

Delivered Balls
Scoring from attacking actions is no better defined. The game states that all players earn a point for every two balls delivered into the penalty area. Again, there’s no clear definition of this but we have to presume that this includes crosses from wide positions and passes into the box. Similarly, we have to presume that, in both cases, these have to be successful, eg: they have to find team-mates. Finally, we can presume that dead-ball deliveries count.

In all cases we’re speculating and making assumptions because there is no clear definition. Again though, we have to accept that FIFA have modeled this scoring and that this has influence the player price list. Certainly, with Andres Iniesta valued at 8.5 – the top priced midfielder – there’s a suggestion that completed passes into the opposing box will be a strong factor.

Once more, the aggressive pricing has forced our hand to some degree when it comes to our midfield choice. We are drawn towards a proportion of cheaper, defensively-minded midfield options from the lesser sides – hoping that Recovered Balls and Blocks play their part. However, set-piece delivery, crosses and completed passes in the attacking third also have to be considered. This could make a player like Steven Gerrard, an individual who ticks both defensive and attacking boxes, a key figure. A price of 7.5 would certainly suggest that FIFA expect him to score strongly.

With set-pieces a likely factor, you should know that we’ve recently updated our set-piece table to list those players who are likely to be on dead-ball delivery for their respective sides.

In conclusion, the McDonald’s backed FIFA game has already proved a frustrating affair that lacks clarity and has us Fantasy Managers embarking on the tournament with so many unanswered questions. We’ve fired this issues to FIFA in hope we’ll get some clarity and, if it arrives, we’ll be sure to update you before Thursday’s deadline. For now though, the official game remains as clear as Ronald McDonald’s conscience. A real shame.

The Fantasy Football Scout League

Despite the issues, the official FIFA game remains a popular pursuit around these parts. We’ve set up an official FFS league which you can join by clicking this link.

*Edit*
Please note that this article was edited from the first draft after FIFA updated their rules on Wednesday evening, just 24-hours before deadline. As mentioned in the article, according to the new edited published rules, midfielders now need to earn two recovered balls rather than one, to earn a point.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. System builder
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    Which ones to select?

    A- Ozil and Pedro
    B- Busquets/Alonso and Muller

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    1. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
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      B

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  2. Steve \'toothless\…
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    so are defensive mids the way forward?

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  3. Christina.
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    no Jerries or el toro in my team. get them. they are bound to do well now guys.

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    1. Billy Gilmore
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      Just Muller for me. 😮

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Müller, Durm, Alba for me.

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      1. System builder
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        Do you think Muller will start?

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          I am certain of it. 🙂

          Either that, or Lowe is having a breakdown.

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          1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
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            Give us some music Doosra

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              1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
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                Great

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          2. System builder
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            what about Ozil? Some outlets saying that he won't start, while others are saying that he will start as false 9- striker etc?
            Little bit confused...

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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              Well, who will strike the dead ball?

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  4. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
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    can afford both in the game im playing(norwegian). No baps or recovered balls awarded
    Else, similar to FPL

    So
    Who do I get:
    Hazard or Kevin de Bruyne? 

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  5. Gatsby
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    Final RMT

    Cillesen (Karnezis)
    Alderweireld, Rojo, Sakho (Kombarov)
    Di Maria, J.Rodriguez, Gerrard, Valbuena (KDB)
    Messi, Neymar, Benzema (Lukaku)

    Good to go?

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    1. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
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      Looks immense

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      1. Gatsby
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        Thanks.. Now to step away from the transfer page............

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        1. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
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          You can now ponder upon the questions of life. First question

          What is true happiness?

          That will keep you busy

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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            The answer is forty-two.

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            1. Gatsby
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              Knew it.. 😀

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Good to go. 🙂

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    3. LewanGOALski
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      I have 12 of those, so hope so 😀

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  6. Blue Lion
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    Jonty,If you are around.

    It was mentioned in the budget defenders article that Jose Cholevas "Greece’s attack-minded full-back seems a bargain considering he is likely to be taking corners and free-kicks for Greece."
    How reliable is this info? Because in the set piece takers table i don't see his name.

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    1. Billy Gilmore
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      He's also known as Holebas

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      1. Blue Lion
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        Oh!..Thanks Billy!

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  7. jaco
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    Evening all...what seems to be the desired squad/ formation, at the mo im looking to play 3-4-3 with a squad as...

    1 keeper (+2 cheap)
    5 def (+2 cheap)
    5 mids (+3 cheap)
    3 strikers (+2 cheap)

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  8. Koflok
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    Fox game

    Kombarov or Schaer

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    1. money face bandwagon
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      kombarov..though depends on ur other defs and the possible rotation u have

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  9. Telpuialion
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    The way I understand it, you can change your captain to anyone you like AS LONG AS the player you are changing it to is coming off the bench and not a starter.

    Ex: I have Neymar captain. He didn't justify being the captain. It just so happens that I am bringing Alderweireld on for Rojo, then I can change the captain to Alderweireld without having to sub off Neymar.

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    1. Billy Gilmore
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      I can't see any logic in that. Suits the rest of the game perfectly then 🙄

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    2. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
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      It is probably so, but it is not clear at all due to clowns running the show....

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      1. Telpuialion
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        I re-read it. You are right. Their definition of "started to play" is unclear. Is it in reference to our team or the actual World Cup. Hmmm oh well, one more day before we find out.

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        1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
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          What is unclear is what i and someone else stated on last page...
          We'll just roll with the punches from those big clown gloves

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    3. Mini League Fatigue
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      "You can change every player in your line-up that has already played during the current round for any other relevant player in your squad that hasn’t already played. You can also change the captain as long as the new captain hasn’t already started to play."

      Any other relevant player who hasnt already played contradicts you

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    4. Mini League Fatigue
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      just ready this properly, ignore my comment! i think you will be able to change your captain to anyone who hasnt played though based on previous mcfifa games

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    5. money face bandwagon
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      i think his example is unclear. personally i think tt is just like champions league fantasy where u can keep neymar n just swap captaincy to any1 who has not played.

      the example imo kind of mix swapping of captaincy and subsitution of players together making it confusing

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  10. dmcqt
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    Are there any players in the McFifa game who are less than 2.5 and are nailed on through the first three days of the world cup? These players would be fantastic options as they can be rotated out if they fail and replaced with players from Argentina or Germany. The Greek keeper Karzenis is the only one who comes to mind.
    The current setup means that players from Algeria or Iran aren't such good options to rotate in.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Second round: many.

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    1. Camp No No
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      From nailed to screwed in half a season. Nice.

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      1. Dr Dream
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        He really must be feeling the pressure and it really can't help a player at all..No idea what the general feeling in Germany is but it can get to the point where a manager has to take him out of the firing line..ala Joe Hart...Have we any other news of discontent or doubts about him?

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    2. Blue Lion
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      saw that..this adds to the chaos!

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    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Wakey - this is all ghastly racist nonsense ... I should pay no attention.

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      1. Dr Dream
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        Yeah..could be. For all I know Mattaus could be the German version of Mark Lawrenson when it comes to spouting rubbish..

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  11. Sean.
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    Juanmattabeast, you about mate, ?
    FantasyFreak and I need your e-mail address mate

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  12. LewanGOALski
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    How crazy would be going with Gervinho over Lukaku? That's for the 4th FWD. The others are: Messi, Neymar, Benzema

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    1. Mini League Fatigue
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      my forwards are Messi, Neymar, Lukau and Gervinho...

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  13. Mini League Fatigue
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    Will Gago start for the Argies? think he will be a good recovery scorer in the macdonalds game...

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    1. Pinturicchio
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      Shhh.

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      1. Mini League Fatigue
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        🙂

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  14. Gaz Downright
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    Evening lads, how's the last couple of weeks been?

    btw, check out this excellent fifa bashing vid: http://youtu.be/DlJEt2KU33I

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      One thing after the other ... 😀

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  15. ManTree(v2!) or just JAY!
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    First choice back 4 for FRANCE?

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    1. Louis
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      Debuchy Varane Sakho Evra

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  16. 7shadesofsmoke
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    Right. Pick ONE.

    Gerrard vs Oscar vs Pirlo vs Özil.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Özil, for me.

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    2. Mini League Fatigue
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      thats tough, i think if you are after recoveries, balls into box, assist and goal threat Gerrard is best all rounder...oscar / ozil are best for creativity...pirlo is likely to be marked out the game by england

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    3. Kevin Twine
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      Oscar.

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    4. 7shadesofsmoke
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      Thanks guys, makes things crystal clear! 😉

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  17. Baines on Toast...
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    Do we know who's on Chile pens with Vidal out?

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  18. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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    Baby, are you swinging yet??? 😀

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  19. Count of Monte Hristo
    • 12 Years
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    Vargas or Alexis?

    JRod or Cuadrado?

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    1. Parm
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      Alexis & JRod.

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      None. But, if you insist, Alexis.

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  20. ManTree(v2!) or just JAY!
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    Anyone know the first choice back 4 for FRANCE?

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    1. Mulder
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      Evra , Kos, Sakho , Debuchy

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    2. GuyIncognito
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      Evra, Varane, Sakho and Debuchy

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  21. GuyIncognito
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    Dzeko or Drmic?

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  22. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
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    vargas or dzeko?

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Dzeko for me.

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  23. pablo discobar
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    My mirror team now looking like this (with a plan for assists for my defenders etc FPL rules basically - well exactly),

    GK Lloris, Karnezis,
    DEF Marcelo, Alerderweireld, Kombarov, Rojo, Blind(want rid),
    MID, Muller, Di Maria, Oscar, Rodriguez, De Bryne,
    FWD, Messi, Neymar, Benzema.

    What ya reckon?

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  24. jaco
    • 12 Years
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    which def to drop so that i can upgrade a striker/ mid?

    Alves, Rodriguez, Alderweireld, Durm, Rojo, Kombarov

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  25. Dr Dream
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    Am I right in assuming that balls into the box include free kicks and corners like the ones Gerrard takes when he's not busy taking penalties or recovering balls?

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Hahaha - go on, get him in!!! 😀

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      1. Dr Dream
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        Hehehe..

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  26. roscola
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    @Demi

    Here you go. I'm glad you asked for this, it's much better:

    https://i.imgur.com/0yNL4rM.png

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      😀

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    2. roscola
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      There's some visible fudging around the neck (they're very differently shaped men!) but I don't think it'll be visible when shrunk to grav size.

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    3. Demí
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      Oh wow that looks great. Thanks v. much Roscola, really appreciate that 🙂

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      1. roscola
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        No probs 🙂 The number of lineups you've delivered, I'm still deep in your debt

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        1. Demí
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          You're too kind. Have uploaded it onto gravatar now, so hopefully see it very soon

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          1. roscola
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            Oooh, it's a bit dark when shrunk. I'll see if I can do anything about that.

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            1. Camp No No
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              Now that you're at it, photoshop master, wanna make my Geber hold a football. In right hand, or maybe between hands. Bigger size picture from wikipedia page:

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C4%81bir_ibn_Hayy%C4%81n#Legacy

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              1. Camp No No
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                That was meant to be in form of a question...

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                1. roscola
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                  Heh heh 🙂

                  Can do but it'll be tomorrow now, I've stepped away from the computer for today (on phone now)

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                  1. Camp No No
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                    Well, if you do it at any point as long as I'm still involved in the FFS cup, I'm happy.

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          2. roscola
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            OK, here's one that should be a bit better

            https://i.imgur.com/Rze8jrZ.png

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            1. Demí
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              Thanks again man. Looks a bit lighter i think, great work! 🙂

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              1. roscola
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                Hope you have email alerts switched on and you get this 🙂

                I've figured out why the image came out dark. I'm certain this one will work properly:

                https://i.imgur.com/1UwWAei.jpg

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  27. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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    Whooot! 😀

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      Doosra, thank you for the invitation to the Mirror game, but I am abstaining from all WC Fantasy games

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    2. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
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      Great stuff allthough i prefer vocals being involved.

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  28. Pedram
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    Here's my draft:

    Cesar (Karnezis - Mbolhi)
    Evra - Yepes - Rojo - Manolas (Alderweireld - Kombarov - 1m)
    Di Maria - JRodriguez - Pogba - Pjanic (DeBruyne - Bentaleb - 1.5m - 1m)
    Neymar(c) - Messi (Lukaku - 1m - 1m)

    Have 0.5m, how can i improve this team ?

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  29. wagner is king
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    anyone going greizmann ? over j rod? same price in sun game

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