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12 July 2014 1567 comments
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The penultimate game of the 2014 World Cup gets underway this evening as hosts Brazil prepare to take on Holland in the third/fourth place play off. Humiliated by Germany in midweek, Phil Scolari’s side have the chance to salvage some pride in the 9pm kick-off, whilst Louis Van Gaal will be equally determined to end his stint at the Dutch helm in style before taking over at Manchester United:

Brazil: Cesar; Maicon, Silva, Luiz, Maxwell; Paulinho, Gustavo; Ramires, Oscar, Willian; Jo

Holland: Cillessen; Vlaar, De Vrij, Martins Indi; Kuyt, Clasie, Wijnaldum, Blind; Sneijder; Van Persie, Robben

Scolari wields the axe on the back of Tuesday’s 7-1 drubbing, making as many as six changes to his starting line-up. In defence, Thiago Silva is free from suspension and takes the place of Dante at centre-half, whilst Maxwell replaces Marcelo at left-back. Further up the pitch, Paulinho, Ramires, Willian and Jo get a chance to impress, with Fernandinho, Bernard, Hulk and Fred all dropped after disappointing displays last time around. With Neymar sidelined through injury, David Luiz and Oscar carry the main attacking threat for the hosts – both have found the net twice so far, with the latter also delivering a pair of assists.

Somewhat surprisingly, Van Gaal resists the temptation to freshen up his side after an energy-sapping 120 minutes against Argentina on Wednesday night produced a single shot on target. The Dutch boss make just two alterations, as Jordy Clasie and Jonathan de Guzman come in for Wesley Sniejder and the injured Nigel de Jong in central midfield, whilst Arjen Robben and Robin Van Persie lead the line in a 3-4-1-2 formation once again. Neither player has scored since Matchday 2 but the duo will be looking to finish the tournament on a high against the hosts’ porous backline – bearing in mind the United man failed to register a single attempt against the South Americans, his Fantasy owners are desperate for an improvement.

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  1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
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    Classie is causing me a dilemma with 7 fo sho

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    1. seanie3
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      who's on your bench? I'd twist on 7

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      1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
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        Hummels Howedes Boateng DeMichellis
        Lahm Kroos Mascherano left

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    2. Jebus Saves
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      7 isn't enough. You should be aiming for 10..

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    3. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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      hmm i may swap him for a def............. good chance of making up those points

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      1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
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        Your prob right

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  2. seanie3
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    How many points did RVP get..

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    1. Jebus Saves
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      10

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  3. CopperPot82
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    Holland won...

    Imagine how much better they may have done if they allowed players from the rest of THE NETHERLANDS to partake.

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  4. Kroos Kontrol
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    Where the final all scores spreadsheet?

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  5. potatoace
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    Did ITV ever explain why the pundits are all huddled round some bar table on the beach?

    did their studio get smashed up ?

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    1. Evs
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      Shot at at.

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      1. potatoace
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        wow , they must hate chiles more than us

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  6. Willis.
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    Chelsea's new signing, Josi Quintero, has been assigned the number 619.
    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/07/12/article-2689835-1F97E20F00000578-188_634x660.jpg

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  7. Messi & fabregas
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    a) Lahm

    b) muller

    c) keep clasie 7pts ?

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    1. Grunter75
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      a - safe bet you beat 7
      b - max points potential but also highest risk of a 3 pointer
      c - no

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    2. Jebus Saves
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      a

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    3. Messi & fabregas
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      I thank u both

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  8. GREENDREAMS11
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    I fancy Argentina myself, who does everyone else fancy ?

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    1. MJ6987
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      Epic Fail's missus

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      1. Epic Fail
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        Someone's got to I suppose 😀

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        1. MJ6987
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          I take it your missus is not Natalie Sawyer then? 😆

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    2. Jebus Saves
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      Germans..

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    3. Epic Fail
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      Natalie Sawyer.

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    4. Saint Domingo
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      Germany in 90 mins

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    5. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
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      Kate Abdo

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    6. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
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      That Katy Perry lass would get it.

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    7. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Ze Chermans.

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    8. Declan
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      Argentina

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    9. MJ6987
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      Well, as a Welshman, Argentina are my second team of course, but I fancy the Germans to win it.

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    10. Evs
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      The favourite running in the 3:40 at Newbury.

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    11. applebonkers
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      germany, and if they do it it's one of the greatest wins ever considering they've had so many early kickoffs and the whole european team in south america hoodoo

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  9. rozzo
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    Wasnt expecting the Wijnaldum goal. Who would you rather leave on the bench out of these?

    Hummels, Garay, Rojo, Kroos, Lahm, Mascherano, Messi, Muller

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    1. Messi & fabregas
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      messi.....

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    2. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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      rojo i guess

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  10. pundit of punts
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    Brazil have done an Arsenal. Showed promise, got battered and finished 4th. 😆 😆

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    1. Kroos Kontrol
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      But we don't celebrate our 4th place trophy like them. 😛

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      1. pundit of punts
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        Really?

        I remember Szczesny's selfie with the fans after finishing fourth. 😉

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    2. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
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      When did you start supporting City? 😆

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      1. pundit of punts
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        You seem surprised. 🙄

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        1. Demí
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          Alright mate, calm down. Was an honest question.

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          1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
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            This!!!

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    3. Declan
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      Hil-ari-ous

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  11. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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    Well, at least I picked up two goals, tonight. 🙂

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    1. Epic Fail
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      girls*

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        😀 I wish!!! 😉

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    2. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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      well put them back, you dont know where theyve been

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        I shall be a dirty little boy, if you don't mind! 😀

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    3. Holy See
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      2 for the show baby!

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        3 for the money ... 😀

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  12. The Bandit
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    Valencia to W Ham could be an interesting FPL prospect

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    1. Big_Andy_GAWA
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      Is that the chat?

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      1. The Bandit
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        Sam says almost done. Enner, not Tony

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  13. BantamPhil
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    Hummels nailed on for tomorrow? Need a captain and will be away without internet when the line ups come out

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  14. Evs
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    Gents, rumours here earlier surrounding Rojo & Hummels starting tomorrow.

    What's that all about then ?

    It would suit me actually if both sat it out 🙂

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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      same

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    2. MJ6987
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      Just trolling I expect.

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    3. Jebus Saves
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      Rojo ankle knock....Hummels tendons in itis.

      Both will play I think.

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    4. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      Rojo sat out training today

      Hummels is just guessing from coming off at HT v Brasil

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      1. Evs
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        Thanks.

        PS - I had a few beers with your mate Tom the other night 🙂

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  15. Kroos Kontrol
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    Where's the spreadsheet showing scores by all players in NED-BRAZIL match?

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    1. Jebus Saves
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      not done yet bud.

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      1. Kroos Kontrol
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        Still, give me the link so I can bookmark it, it's up by now and people start updating

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        1. Jebus Saves
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          i don't have it.

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  16. The Bandit
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    Bojan to Stoke? He was once the next big thing 😆

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    1. MJ6987
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      Can he do it on a wet Tuesday night in Stoke though

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    2. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
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      You mean Stoke won't be the next big thing?

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      1. The Bandit
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        Not now Pulis has left

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        1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
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          Needlevor disagrees

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          1. The Bandit
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            Probably a Palace fan now

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    3. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      But how will he perform on a cold, wet night in Stoke?

      Oh, I guess well see 🙂

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    4. applebonkers
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      barcelona are now stoke's feeder club

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    5. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
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      Aye. When he was 17.

      Turned out like another Freddy Adu so far.

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  17. MJ6987
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    Had enough of this World Cup now. I am so ready for FPL!

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    1. GREENDREAMS11
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      lol. one more push, we go over the top tomorrow on the sound of the whistle and the drone of the pipes

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      1. MJ6987
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        Argies will do their best to spoil the game!

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  18. Fifa las vegas
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    RMT for sky (first attempt, so go easy 😉 )

    DDG
    Rafael, Debuchy, Simpson, Wilson
    Eriksen, Sterling, Brady, Gomez
    Sanchez, Rvp

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    1. The Bandit
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      3 5 2

      Come back later after ammending 😉

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      1. The Bandit
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        *amending 😳

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    2. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
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      Not sold on Brady's gametime given Hull's signings. Also have Europe.
      Sold on Rafael's gametime?
      Like Wilson and obviously RvP looks close to essential.
      Would attempt to switch Simpson out for a mid, going 3-5-2. Sky hate defenders. Maybe you could fund this by swapping Sanchez out for Bony?

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      1. Fifa las vegas
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        Maybe, maybe. Just thinking Sanchez might start fast as Özil did last season

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        1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
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          Could say the same about all the new recruits though. I'd prefer to wait and see. Many need a bit of time to adapt.

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    3. MJ6987
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      Is Wilson nailed on (I can't remember)?
      Is Brady fully fit now?

      Looks pretty good compared with other teams I've seen on here tbh.

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  19. bazrah99
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    Who to drop from: Garay, Demi, Humm (assuming he plays) and Boateng?

    Playing 5 at the back but already have 11 and 13.

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    1. Keepergirl
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      Hmmmm...we have the exact same back line and the exact same dilemma
      May leave Demi on the bench

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  20. Zombie
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    Will get the community mention if we win FFS WC 😀 ?

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    1. Whattheheck!
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      Hope so.... Not enough live so far. I guess because the big names went out early.

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    2. Smarty Pants
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      Yes. As the luckiest and most undeserved gold medal ever.
      There will also be a special Hot Topic, where people will argue who was luckier, you or Steven Bradbury: http://i.imgur.com/ZDgXmVu.gif

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  21. GREENDREAMS11
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    Hey. Gnu, I forgot it was the glorious twelfth. No Surrender Ya Bass. lol

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      😛 😉

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    2. Big_Andy_GAWA
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      Not too much rioting so far, for once. Hope it lasts....

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    3. Gnu
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      Your a right tumshie Greendreams 🙂

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  22. King Kohli
    • 13 Years
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    Will Robben get any bonus in FOX?

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  23. Gnu
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    One disappointment for me was the draw putting Chile, then Columbia up against Brazil in the knock outs. Would have liked to have seen Brazil up against one the Europeans before then. Chile & Colombia would have been entertaining in the final stages but difficult for both to beat Brazil in Brazil - if you know what I mean!

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    1. GREENDREAMS11
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      I thought Columbia were the better team but thats football, probably would have been better for Brazillian football to have gone out then tbh

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      1. Holy See
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        The best thing for Brazilian football was to get a major wake up call. Boy have they got one. As a Jo owner, I feel particularly hurt.

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        1. GREENDREAMS11
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          it seems mad that not many of the squad actually play in South America. Are Oscar, Willian and Paulinho actually the best Brazilian players at the moment ?

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          1. Holy See
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            Been listening to a few Brazilian commentators/pundits on the topic lately and they just feel Brazil has fallen behind in coaching techniques, unwilling to change because they have their 5 wcs, and haven't moved as the game has moved. From the roots up, if you will. The realists think they needed a kick to realise this.

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    2. Zasa
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      Agreed. Luck of the draw, or bad luck for Chile that is. Easily one the t6 teams of the tournament.

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  24. Darsh
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    North Korea in the World Cup final... Against Portugal!
    http://www.thesportbible.com/articles/north-korea-close-to-winning-the-world-cup

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    1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
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      Said North Korea would win the whole thing right from the start. Paddy Power better pay out.

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    2. MJ6987
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      Maybe England should try this approach at the next World Cup!

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  25. Fifa las vegas
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    Any good midfielders from promoted clubs? Don't know much about Leicester and burley in particular

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    1. Demí
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      Knockaert looked decent on the couple of occasions i watched Leicester. Takes some set pieces too

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      1. Fifa las vegas
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        Thanks

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    2. Taribo West on a free
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      Drinkwater's the main man for Leicester I think,

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    3. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
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      Matty Taylor (Burnley) is on my watchlist for possible cheapie mid.

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    4. applebonkers
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      kightly if he sheds the chub

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  26. Fresco
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    13th in the world in MaccyD. Tomorrow's gonna be so nervy 😀

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    1. Frip
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      first place all of a sudden has a 18pt lead 😯

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    2. GREENDREAMS11
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      wow, good luck dude

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      1. Fresco
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        thanks!

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  27. MJ6987
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    Could Vidal to United actually happen???

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Apparently, yes.

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      1. MJ6987
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        OMG! 😯

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      2. Konig Luther
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        no way, really?

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    2. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
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      It could...

      But this is one of them I refuse to get excited by, until it's done.

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      1. MJ6987
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        Yeah, same here. Too good to be true.

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    3. Fifa las vegas
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      I hope to god yes! 😛

      LVG should help in convincing him

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    4. Obi Wan Elokobi
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      No all these transfers won't happen again and united will struggle. This van Gaal hype is doing my head in.

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    5. bazrah99
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      Yep, I think it is going to happen with an Evra sweetener.

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    6. pundit of punts
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      Possible.

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    7. Zasa
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      So much hype & speculation here in Chile, seems highly likely.

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  28. Gubbins94.
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    http://onekeano.wordpress.com/2014/07/10/136/

    Something to read on Leo Messi if you're bored.

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    1. applebonkers
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      not bored but will read it anyway

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      1. Gubbins94.
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        lol fair enough

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        1. applebonkers
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          will put the threesome with 2 hot lezzer models on hold for a second (inbetweeners line before this gets flagged)

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  29. ManUtdFan_UK
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    Stuck... My back 5 at the moment is

    De Vrij (13 points), Vlaar (11 points), Boateng, Garay, Hummels (C), with Demi on the bench. I'm chasing a lead so I don't know whether to stick or would it be crazy to sub out Vlaar for Demi?

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    1. bazrah99
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      Vlaar only got 11? Wow, he had a stormer.

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  30. pundit of punts
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    Wenger: "LvG can beat maybe Arsenal but then might lose to Chelsea, then you've got City as well as ‪#‎LFC‬. It's going to be interesting."

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    1. bazrah99
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      Very insightful. Idiot.

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      1. bazrah99
        • 16 Years
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        Wenger not you 😉

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