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After rolling out our guide to the Ultimate Fantasy Premier League (UFPL) game earlier this month, we delve a little deeper in our follow-up piece. This evening, we cast an eye over some of the subtle scoring differences between UFPL and Fantasy Premier League (FPL) game, assessing a number of players and, to an extent, positions that may force us to reassess some of our initial targets.

Ultimate Fantasy Premier League (UFPL) is a squad game and with 25 players to select within your £160 million budget, every Fantasy manager will be assessing how best to stretch their funds to target the key heavy-hitters.

A core of expensive assets, particularly in attacking areas, is essential to success in UFPL. Targets such as Wayne Rooney and Aaron Ramsey will find their way into the majority of squads and, as a result, it’s the assessment of the budget and mid-price candidates that can be vital to success.

An understanding of the scoring methods in UFPL is crucial to assisting you to find effective targets across the price brackets. In this article, I’ll examine the various statistics that contribute to UFPL scoring and asses their impact on the top players, whilst also listing a series of budget and mid-price targets that were revealed as major benefactors during last season’s Beta test.

UFPL vs Fantasy Premier League

While the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) game we know and love presents a clean and straightforward method of scoring players (appearances, goals, assists and clean sheets), UFPL awards players additional points for a myriad of additional actions – all based on data gathered by Opta.

The most effective method of assessing the effect of these variables is to take an example.

Wayne Rooney’s FPL total from last season was 190 points, whereas, in UFPL, he totaled 233 points. On the face of it, a difference of 43 points looks fairly minor but, when you consider that UFPL has no bonus points awarded and that Rooney benefited from 38 bonus points in FPL, the gap between those two totals widens to a chasm.

Rooney gained a total of 81 UFPL points from actions such as Big Chances Created, Key Passes, Crosses and Successful Passes: a significant tally which equates to three points a game. In a nutshell then, if Rooney performs at the same level under Louis van Gaal, you can count three additional points on top of the “traditional” tally for goals and assists.

It’s fair to say that Rooney is a standout UFPL performer. He’s one of those players who can not only deliver goals and assists but also possesses an all-action style that contributes all over the pitch. As our members area stats reveal, Rooney completed more passes than any other forward, ranked second for Key Passes (Chances Created minus Assists) and supplied 189 crossed balls – far more than any rival up front.

These are the type of players that UFPL managers have to target: players who rack up big tallies for similar actions to Rooney – Key Passes, Crosses and Successful Passes. In addition, there are some players who have an all-round game that helps them to pick up points from Clearances, Blocks and Interceptions (CBI).

Below I’ve listed those players who benefited most, in terms of points per game, from the actions discussed above.

Top 10 UFPL players for ‘extras’ per game

  • Wayne Rooney 3.0 ppg
  • Sergio Aguero 3.0 ppg
  • Steven Gerrard 3.0 ppg
  • Jesus Navas 2.8 ppg
  • Aaron Ramsey 2.6 ppg
  • Juan Mata 2.5 ppg
  • Adam Johnson 2.5 ppg
  • Christian Eriksen 2.5 ppg
  • Aleksandar Kolarov 2.5 ppg
  • Daniel Sturridge 2.4 ppg

Few of these will be a surprise to many – the likes of Aaron Ramsey, Juan Mata and Steven Gerrard have games that are ideal for UFPL scoring and all three have to be serious considerations for our squads for the coming season.

However, as mentioned earlier, the key to success if UFPL may not be the selection of these heavy-hitters but instead our appreciation of those lesser known targets who can nonetheless contribute regular points through UFPL statistical “extras”.

Here’s my selection of three notable “unfashionable” targets who excelled last season:

Mark Noble, 5.5
Noble’s UFPL tally last year was a whopping 197 points – a staggering return for a deep-lying midfielder in an erratic West Ham side. One of the key factors is that he played almost every minute of the season, making him a reliable bench fallback option in our squads. Noble’s PPG is 5.3, and, of these, 2.3 points are down to UFPL ‘extras’. From this we can see that Noble’s point scoring is not reliant on goals and assists, he’ll likely be good for 4-5 points a game just by being on the pitch and influencing the Hammers’ play from the centre of the park.

Tom Huddlestone 5.5
A popular target in the UFPL Beta – again, Huddlestone is a player who delivered regular starts and was heavily involved in a Hull midfield from a deep-lying role. With strong dead-ball delivery and the propensity to shoot from range, Huddlestone has the ability to deliver goals and assists but also gained 2.3 points per game from statistical “extras” in UFPL. With 183 crossed balls and 55 Key Passes, Huddlestone was at the hub of Hull’s play and provided a steady stream of points for his UFPL owners. Aside from the distraction of European football this term, there’s nothing to suggest that he can’t repeat that output again.

Mile Jedinak 5.5
Another player seldom given a second glance in FPL but one that emerged as a key budget option in Ultimate. The Palace stopper garnered 2.3 points per game from statistical extras so, while his goals and assists tally were modest, he was still able to contribute to our UFPL squads. Jedinak completed 1160 passes as the heartbeat of the Palace midfield, contributed 33 key passes and, crucially, was the top midfielder in the Premier League for CBI.

From this analysis and the sample of players I’ve offered, we can see that, when considering UFPL targets, we do have to re-align our sights somewhat. The pursuit of heavy-hitters remains at the forefront of our thinking but these targets should be players who are heavily involved for their clubs and who can also contribute points earned from the actions we’ve discussed.

Equally, when selecting budget and mid-price targets, we need to forget what we know from our FPL recruitment. UFPL is a game that brings new players into the fold – players that may well be defensively minded but are so involved at the core of their teams, they are able register worthy returns through their sheer level of involvement via passing and defensive actions.

The Fantasy Football Scout UFPL League

For those who are looking to get involved or have already began to tinker with their first drafts, you can join the official Fantasy Football Scout league: the code is 524-87.

  1. Fchildress
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    List time, much appreciated:

    A) Giroud Cesc Sterling
    B) Giroud Hazard Tadic
    C) Dzeko Ramsey Sterling
    D) Jovetic Cesc Ramsey

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    1. Falcao92
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I like B

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    2. Brayden29
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      D with Sterling instead of Fab

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    3. Munsoned
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Si

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    4. The Hound
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I like c

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    5. gdog2244
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      c

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    6. Nabs Kebabs
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      c

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    7. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      DD

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      1. The Hound
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Motorboat

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    8. tw
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      d

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    9. Venom Snake
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      C for me

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    10. Not Irish
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      D with Mata or Lamela.

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  2. mitre
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Which 4mill defender are the most likely to start?

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    1. Falcao92
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Bruce
      Moore
      Wisom

      not particulary in that order

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      1. ManofKent
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        add Duff and maybe Hutton

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  3. Lallana_
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    A) Sterling, Young, Chambers
    B) Mata, Henderson, Wisdom

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    1. gdog2244
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      B

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      1. Tobias
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Mental. Clearly A. Really with the B? Wisdom has to compete with Gamboa and Henderson is Henderson. Mental.

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        1. Not Irish
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          B in a landslide. 🙂

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    2. Method man
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      B

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  4. Xtentz
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Hi Guys,

    Please share your comments for my probable team:

    Begovic-(Krul)
    Terry-Caulker-Chambers-(Yoshida-Bruce)
    Hazard-Lamela-Ramsey-Young-(Sigurdsson)
    Rooney-Diego Costa-Bojan

    0.5 kept to replace Chambers

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    1. gdog2244
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Lose Bojan

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    2. Venom Snake
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Instead of planning a trade for a defender, which will probably be made next week anyway. Do yourself a favor and sell krul for a 4.0 and upgrade chambers to debuchy if you want an arsenal defender

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  5. Nabs Kebabs
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    cracked it 😎

    Green
    Cahill/Terry/Wisdom
    Mata/Ramsey/Eriksen/Siggy
    Rooney/Costa/Diouf

    Mannone/Mutch/Clyne/Moore

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    1. Arvin-ation
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Love how you thought my Diouf pick was shite when I first got him ages ago 😎

      Nice team though, obviously no Haz/Fab, but something's gotta give.

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      1. Nabs Kebabs
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        😆 did i really say that? have been keen on him for a while, chucked him in my dead team challenge thing a couple days ago and he has found himself replacing dzeko in my proper one

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        1. Arvin-ation
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          I believe so, lots did! Then Demi came along and approved it and BAM! He was a good pick. 😉 Shame, I can't afford him, had to downgrade to Bojan to afford Mata.

          He's a top pick though, I'm sure that downgrade, Dzeko-->Diouf, afforded a more worthy upgrade elsewhere.

          Good luck FG. 🙂

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    2. Watmore do ya want?
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      - Cahill and Terry?
      - Midfield is great, might as well play mutch over siggy this week
      - Other than that it is all good

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      1. Nabs Kebabs
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Yes, Cahill and Terry.

        Still not sure, so many people have Siggy and he will likely be in the hole against that crappy depleted united def. Don't want to fall behind the crowd for benching him

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        1. Watmore do ya want?
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          Or you could play five mids and bench Diouf

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          1. Not Irish
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            ARE YOU MAD?

            DIOUF WAGON DOESN'T SLOW DOWN

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    3. Not Irish
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Terry or Cahill>Lovren

      Costa>Studge

      Green>Bego

      Mannone>4.0

      WINNING

      🙂

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  6. gdog2244
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    GK: Bego, Elliot
    DEF: Terry, PVA , Kelly, Duff, Caulker
    MID: Ramsey ,Sterling, Mata, Marney, Siggy
    ATT: Rooney, Dzeko, Costa

    Good to go?

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    1. Venom Snake
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Your good

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  7. Ibracadabra´s Spell
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Best cheaper Forward to join Diego Costa and Rooney???

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    1. The Hound
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Stone cold

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      1. Ibracadabra´s Spell
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Stone Cold??? nope, he would just drink beer and give stunner to all the oponents and finally... get red card and I get screwed.

        Other suggestion???

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        1. The Hound
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          Stone cold "Charlie" Austin. Beer is good!

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          1. Ibracadabra´s Spell
            • 11 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            Yeah. 🙂

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    2. Nabs Kebabs
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Most people have gone for Bojan on here.

      I prefer Austin or Diouf

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      1. Ibracadabra´s Spell
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Ok, thanks. 🙂

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    3. tw
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      bojan, austin, diouf, or long

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    4. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Id have Bojan if I was goin that way

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      1. Ibracadabra´s Spell
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Ok. thanks. 🙂

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    5. Not Irish
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      DIOUF

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  8. SW6
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Finding it very hard to pick a defence that I'm happy with 😕

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    1. The Hound
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I love mine bit I had to downgrade sterling to hendo to be happy. It was doggers before though.

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    2. Cannon
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I'm at this stage too... I look at my front 7 and love it.
      Then I look at my defence and cry.

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    3. tm245
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I have Baines and Terry. Very happy.

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      1. The Hound
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Wish I had baines.

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        1. tm245
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          Never too late.

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    4. Venom Snake
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I have 1x5.0 and 4x4.5
      Never been happier with my defence!

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      1. SW6
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Clyne, PvA, Ferdinand, Chester, Taylor?

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        1. Venom Snake
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          Kelly instead of Naylor. Don't know why but I just don't trust the Swansea defence at all, or else he would be straight in for the security of starts.

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    5. Not Irish
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Just go cheap and cram the big hitters in.

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  9. Method man
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Which two?

    1 fab
    2 mata
    3 silva

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    1. gdog2244
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      1 and 2

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    2. Cannon
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Fab and Mata

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  10. Clintymints
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    I know it's been asked 45,000 times but have we decided on the best 4.0 defenders?

    Baird and Hutton are in my current team

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    1. Ellipsis
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Baird, Hutton, Moore, duff wisdom seem to be the main protagonists

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    2. Nabs Kebabs
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Moore is the best for security
      Wisdom over Baird
      Hutton is good to start with, depends on his performances if he keeps his spot

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      1. Clintymints
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Oh yeah had Wisdom initially but swapped to baird since wisdom is only decent for a week or some sort of jazz like that

        it's the last piece of the fpl puzzle i have yet to figure out

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        1. ManofKent
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          Duff and Moore look safest

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      2. Werkself
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        FG, could use your help with my question below.

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  11. Cannon
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Hopefully someone can help out here.

    After next week, assuming Smalling - Jones - Evans as back 3.
    Which two will get gametime at wing-back for 4 weeks while shaw is out??

    Young
    Rafael
    Blackett
    James

    Thanks

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    1. Repetive Expletive
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Young...don't think LVG is convinced with Rafael, okay going forward but a liability in defence

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      1. Cannon
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        So who's the other side if not Rafael, do you think?

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  12. lionhunter
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    What do we know about Walker's injury? I thought he would be back withing a week or so, but others seem to think he might be out for 3-4 weeks, making Naughton a good short-term option.

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    1. lionhunter
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      within*

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    2. Frip
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      last I heard yesterday is that he wasn't practicing yet

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    3. Aston Villa-Boas
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      would like to know this as well

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    4. Galfadez
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I've got Naughton in my side so someone tell me to trade him out

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  13. MountainBeach
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    A) Courtois, Jones and Johnson
    B) De Gea,O Shea and Eriksen?

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    1. Nice to Finally Michu
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      B with PVA instead of O'Shea

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      1. MountainBeach
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Will the difference between Johnson and Eriksen be that big, though?

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        1. Nice to Finally Michu
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          It should be, why are you big on Johnson? I dont rate him at all

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          1. MountainBeach
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            Well Eriksen is obv the superior player IRL, but on FPL, I don't think the gap between their points will be that different. Going with Johnson means you can strengthen other areas, I guess

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            1. Nice to Finally Michu
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 7 months ago

              At any rate Siggy is cheaper and better

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              1. MountainBeach
                • 14 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                How's this looking then

                De gea
                Debuchy luis cameron
                ramsey mata sterling eriksen
                roo costa austin

                marney pva hutton

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  14. BruLee
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Foster
    Cahill/Chambers/PVA
    Hazard/Hendo/Mata/Ramsey
    Rooney/Costa/Bojan

    Krul Chester/Hutton/Siggy

    Thoughts?

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    1. Venom Snake
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Your good

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  15. Repetive Expletive
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Boom...any advice.. now bring on beer o'clock

    Begovic (Krul)
    Jones, Terry, Moore (PVA, Clyne)
    Ramsey, Young, Henderson, Fábregas (Siggy)
    Rooney (VC), Costa (C), Jovetic

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    1. Kevtheotter
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Like it except Young but then again ill probably be wrong and hey hes only 5.5 so i dont mind if i am

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  16. Werkself
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Quick question - final decision

    Krul, Foster
    Cahill, Evans, Naughton, Hutton, Chester,
    Mata, Rambo, Sterling, Eriksen, Wanyama
    Costa, Rooney, Bojan

    0.5 ITB

    A. Upgrade Chester > CDavies
    B. Upgrade Wanyama > Davis
    C. Nothing - save the money for transfers
    D. Something you see that I don't

    Thanks!

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    1. gdog2244
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Bojan to Austin

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    2. Lallana_
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Save money! You might need it for future transfers.

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    3. Cannon
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      A or C, depending on thoughts of Davies goal threat

      Also, Jonny Evans is out for first game.

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      1. Werkself
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Oops, Evans is Jones. But thanks for the heads up!

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  17. damo21
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    is it worth having herrera in my team??

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    1. Repetive Expletive
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Give it a few weeks, see how he settles into LVG's set up

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      1. damo21
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        so who should i replace him with?

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    2. The Hound
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Think he's probably a modric.

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  18. Lallana_
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Thought on this?

    DDG
    Pieters Terry Chambers
    Sigurdsson Ramsey Sterling Young
    Sturridge (C) Rooney Costa

    Bench: Gilks, Hutton, Duff, Marney

    0.5ITB in case I want to do Sturridge>8.5 striker and Young>Mata

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  19. Kevtheotter
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Eriksen and Clyne

    or

    Sterling and 4.5

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    1. Repetive Expletive
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      A

      Liverpool have a tough few games coming, don't expect a flood of goals

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    2. Nice to Finally Michu
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      The latter

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  20. intek7
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Please give your opinions on this team selection:

    Gk - De Gea / Gilks

    Def : Terry Lovren Debuhy / Chambers Moore

    Mid: Ramsey Fabregas Eriksen Young Sigurdsson

    Att: Rooney Costa Austin

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    1. intek7
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Or is this better?

      Gk - De Gea / Gilks

      Def : Terry Lovren Debuhy / LVA Moore

      Mid: Ramsey Fabregas Osman Young Sigurdsson

      Att: Rooney Costa Giroud

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  21. Frank Black
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    This is not really the team i have(and probably not the one i'm planning to go with) but i was still toying around and this came out. What do you think?

    Begovic - 4.0

    Luis - Chambers - Caulker - B. Davies - 4.0

    Hazard - Ramsey - Sterling - Young - Henderson

    Rooney - Dzeko - Giroud

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  22. mitre
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Almost ready, this is my team ATM

    Bego
    Terry - Caulker - Chambers
    Sterling - Fáb - Rambo - Young
    Costa - Dzeko - Roo
    (Gilks, Clyne, Hutton, Marney)

    I think Mata will do really well, but can't quite fit him in

    is
    Sterling, Young, Clyne -> Mata, Mutch, Colo
    worth it?

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    1. Ellipsis
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      In the long run I reckon mata and Mutch will out score Sterling and young. I'd be tempted to do your switch mate

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    2. Venom Snake
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I reckon a straight swap from fab to mata would be fine..

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  23. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Keeping coming back to this squad.... Thoughts?

    Foster
    Jones Caulker Terry
    Mata Lamela Siggy Ramsey
    Rooney(c) DCosta(vc) Jovetic

    Subs Krul Wisdom Wanyama Moore

    bank: 0.5m to upgrade Jovetic to Giroud/Bony/Dzeko.

    Also tempted to find another 0.5m to replace Lamela with Fabs if required...

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    1. Zep
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Freakishly similar to mine...

      Foster - Elliot
      Terry - Cahill
      Jones - Debuchy
      Lamela - Eriksen
      Moore - Clyne

      The only differences..

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  24. Ellipsis
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Hello DZ!

    Well after lots of fretting it all boils down to probably flipping a coin on this one tomorrow:

    Gents...If you would be so kind please;

    A)
    FOSTER (Myhill)
    Caulker, Debuchy, Wisdom (duff, HUTTON)
    SANCHEZ, HAZARD, Sterling, Mata (Marney)
    Costa, Roon, Bojan

    B)
    BEGOVIC (Myhill)
    Caulker, Debuchy, TERRY (Wisdom, Duff)
    RAMSEY, ERIKSEN, Mata, Sterling (Marney)
    Costa, Roon, Bojan

    Thanks in advance, good luck all!

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    1. Cannon
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I'd probably try for: Begovic, Chester/PVA, Ramsey, Hazard..

      I think my math is right there.

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  25. Method man
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    A. Mata and hendo

    Or

    B. young and sterling

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    1. lionhunter
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Mata and Siggy?

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  26. Leight Arrival
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Any love for Pelle as third striker?

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    1. Watmore do ya want?
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      - I have him. Southampton's early fixtures will surely see him benefit

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      1. Leight Arrival
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Same, and certainly a good differential.

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    2. Laserface
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Decent

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      1. Leight Arrival
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Let's hope for the best.

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  27. tm245
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    I just found 0.5m! Have been drafting and redrafting so many times that I must have forgotten about it. Sweet.

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    1. The Hound
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Fancy casino?

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  28. Ibrahimobitch
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Thoughts?

    DDG / Gilks

    Terry Lovren PVA (Naylor Wisdom)

    Ramsey Mata Sterling Punch (Sigg)

    Costa Rooney Austin

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  29. Aston Villa-Boas
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Which defense is better?

    A) Terry, PvA, Ferdi, Kelly, Baird
    B) Terry, Clyne, Chester, Baird, Hutton

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    1. lionhunter
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      B, slightly

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      1. Not Irish
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        B

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  30. The Hound
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    I've got koscielny. He better bloody play!

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