[sbu_large_image] Preamble
13 September 2014 2753 comments
Mark Mark
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In case you missed it (and, doubtless, the intention is that you do), the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) have appeared to have tweaked the algorithm that governs their player prices and, as a result, slowed the increases of player values. Where last season a strong bandwagon would soar, sometimes adding 0.3 to a player’s price in a week, now we’re seeing far steadier rises. While most of the three million who play FPL will be oblivious to this, many amongst the Fantasy Football Scout community are very aware of the change; some are not particularly enamoured by it.

I have to admit, I’m slightly biased on the matter. I was badly stung by player values last season. I missed several key bandwagons and watched those players – Aaron Ramsey and Yaya Toure – accelerate away from my budget, making it even more difficult for me to admit my error and bring them in after big points hauls.

Even before last season, though, I’ve always felt that the FPL market was too volatile, that players soared and dropped in price too quickly. I hear the arguments that this new landscape makes things easier for the “mainstream” and “casual” player but I’m struggling to see how this would persuade the FPL to shift back to a more changeable market. It may even have been the intention.

The Premier League want to attract and, more importantly, retain players. They’ve developed a game that has captured our imagination as seasoned Fantasy managers but they may have identified rising player prices as a factor that perturbs the more casual player. The Premier League don’t want to explain and make the price changes transparent – keeping them under wraps allows them to tinker during the season. Instead, they appear to have opted to curb their influence.

The calming of the price rises does remove some of the “advantage” (Tom Fenley won last season’s FPL title without monitoring them) gained by those who studied third-party tools and plotted the transfer strategies accordingly. However, equally, it also reduces the frustration we face when a bandwagon faces a term of absence.

Daniel Sturridge provides a timely example: he could be out for three weeks or more and yet his owners will have little qualms about selling him on because his price has not increased markedly, as a result there’s little or no concern on funds lost or the inability to fetch him back once he’s fit. In previous seasons, I’ve always felt we can be punished for getting in early on key players, watching them rise and then face the conundrum of losing funds when they pick up injuries or bans. That issue is exacerbated by the rapid rise in price in form players; based on the current trends, that should now be reduced.

This undoubtedly tweaks the mechanics of the game. If I miss out on a major bandwagon, I can jump on board a week later, leaving it until the following Friday and pay just 0.1 more or even the same price as those who beat me to the punch. Last season, in that scenario, I might have felt pushed into spending points or making my transfer early in the following week or risk paying 0.2 or 0.3 more.

The rewards for getting the right player at the right time aren’t reduced – those who make the right call, still get the points. However, the penalties for missing out have diminished. It’s not that the hardcore, hands-on manager is being punished, more that the casual manager can now relax, dip into the game every Friday and not get the impression that they are at a disadvantage.

The “hardcore” manager can object to this change but, realistically, we can’t expect the move to be reversed if it’s seen to broaden the appeal of the game. We just have to accept it and play what’s in front of us, relying on our ability swoop for big hauls and leave others chasing points. We also have to remember that the FPL have kept the system behind the player prices to themselves for this very reason – they reserved the right to change the way it worked and tweak the balance – it’s not in the rules so we have no guarantees.

On another note, I find it interesting that there’s a section of Fantasy managers that are missing this aspect of the FPL and the task of tracking market forces. Fantasy games often baulk at the idea of using stat-driven scoring matrix for fear of adding too much complexity. And yet, from the reaction to this recent change, a good deal of us enjoy the process of monitoring and playing a mechanic that is unexplained and revealed only by the use of third-party tools. We can’t deny that the art of player the FPL market was and still is a dark art – a hardcore pursuit. Seemingly, however, it’s something we’ll be left hankering for.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. El Reagano
    12 years, 1 month ago

    WC team. Lads good to go?

    Begovic

    Dier Clyne Moreno

    Siggi Fabregas Sterling(vc) Sliva

    Welbeck Falcao(C) Costa

    Krul King,Wisdom, Duff.

    0.3ITB do comment if any changes are needed

  2. BantamPhil
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Won't Sterling be playing up front whilst Sturridge is out?

    With a diamond of Coutinho, Hendo, Allen and Gerrard

    1. jai1212
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Lambert can be handed a start

    2. Arse Craic
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Balotelli

    3. A.
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Allen is probably out of the Villa game.

      Diamond could get dropped, with a switch to one up front, 4-3-3.
      Sterling could play up front though

      1. BantamPhil
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Didn't know Allen was out

    4. Jax
      12 years, 1 month ago

      erm balotelli, hello?

      1. BantamPhil
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Errrm two up front hello?

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          12 years, 1 month ago

          😀

  3. - DC -
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Puncheon a good pick?

    1. palace ash
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Zaha better

    2. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Yes.

    3. Hughes Your Daddy
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Go Zaha

  4. Gunner77-
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Who else is on Hazard (c) ?

    1. SuperMario
      12 years, 1 month ago

      me

  5. A guy
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Any news on Ramsey?

    1. THE Wild Rover
      12 years, 1 month ago

      He's fit

      1. BeachBadger
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Nice one

    2. Louis
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Passed his late fitness test. Fit.

  6. HamezMace
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Safest captain choice from,

    Costa
    Hazard
    Falcao
    Sterling

    Think hazard is the safest option, but tempted by falcao as no one seems to be picking him for captain.

    1. Coaly
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Haz then Costa for safety in numbers. Don't (c) Falaco

  7. Jairzinho
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Seems like Hazard is actually a popular captain pick on here. Looking forward to seeing the FPL Discovery stats.

  8. Engloo
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Should I bench siggy or zaha?

    Is Ramsey fit to start?

    1. palace ash
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Bench Siggy

    2. HamezMace
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Play sigurdsson

      1. Engloo
        12 years, 1 month ago

        You think he will do much against Chelsea though?
        Also can't decide sterling/ costa/ falcao as captain any thoughts...

    3. Hughes Your Daddy
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Agree, bench Siggy

  9. Kessler
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Who to bench? Siggy, Ramsey or Zaha?

    1. MITRO'S ON FIRE
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Sig

  10. el trompo
    12 years, 1 month ago

    help ivan+guzan or rojo+courtois?

  11. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Captaincy is pretty tricky this week.

    1. super zlatan
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Fab could be golden

      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        12 years, 1 month ago

        hmm, might switch the vc from Rooney to Costa

    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Just a tad. Early kick off is stopping me captaining Aguero, which is madness, and the flu is stopping me captaining Balotelli!

    3. Hubert
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Aye

    4. Arse Craic
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Tadic 🙂

    5. Qubit
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Certainly is. my first 2 choices are rooney and sterling, but i have major nagging doubts over both. Im thinking of sticking it on Fabregas.

    6. Louis
      12 years, 1 month ago

      It's always tricky when there are no RVP, Bale or Suarez around. Makes the game more enjoyable imo as everyone has different ideas and choices.

    7. BantamPhil
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Just like last week

      Love weeks like this

      I don't miss Suarez at all

  12. Bring on the shots
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Who do we think has more chance to keep a clean sheet Saints or Stoke this weekend?

    1. Jax
      12 years, 1 month ago

      stoke

  13. Nibbsy
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Captain Rooney Hazard or Costa?

    1. Wez88
      12 years, 1 month ago

      costa

  14. Game of Stones
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Captain Rooney or Sterling?

  15. Twisted Saltergater
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Is the page size something like 10 posts?!?!

    1. jai1212
      12 years, 1 month ago

      30 posts

      1. palace ash
        12 years, 1 month ago

        30 plus any replies

    2. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
      12 years, 1 month ago

      it does seem shorter, annoying

    3. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Have a count 🙂

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        12 years, 1 month ago

        It's like trying to count cars on a motorway!

  16. Wez88
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Shall I play debuchy or chester? First to 4 wins

    1. Art Vandelay
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Lord Chester of Chessington.

  17. Dušan Citizen
    12 years, 1 month ago

    It seems like Ramsey is ok,but is there any news about COSTA? 🙂 Is he ready?

  18. VRP
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Replace Ramsey or hold?

    1. Hansel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      depends on rest of your team but i'd say hold

  19. snowman
    12 years, 1 month ago

    villa or swansea more likely to let in goals?

    1. Dušan Citizen
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Villa

    2. Jax
      12 years, 1 month ago

      both will concede 3

  20. rohan
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Final poll before I confirm it.

    A) Ramsey + PVA

    Or

    B) Lamela + Moreno

    1. super zlatan
      12 years, 1 month ago

      A

    2. Wez88
      12 years, 1 month ago

      A - liverpol hae great fixtures but their defence is so so bad

  21. Burd Turglars
    12 years, 1 month ago

    What a monumental waste of money Balotelli is

    1. A.
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Are you basing that on the one game he has played without scoring so far?

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        12 years, 1 month ago

        No, he's captained Balotelli and doesn't want anyone else to.

      2. Burd Turglars
        12 years, 1 month ago

        He's always been ever so slightly above average. Should be valued at 7.5-8.0 imo

  22. Arvin-ation
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Play Chester or Caulker?

  23. ee99101
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Hi guys!

    Will we have the lineups to Arsenal vs City before the transfers close?

    Thanks

    1. Jax
      12 years, 1 month ago

      no.

      1. ee99101
        12 years, 1 month ago

        thanks!

  24. vova
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Does anyone else think that Hazard is the safest captain option?

    Costa- doubts about starting
    Rooney- not the best form (if RVP plays then Rooney doesn't have pens)
    Sterling- talk of being rested (unlikely)

  25. elmoselite
    12 years, 1 month ago

    (A) Rooney & Tadic

    (B) Falcao & Mane

    Thinking (A) for this week but (B) longer term depending on form. Thoughts??

  26. Twelve years a slave
    12 years, 1 month ago

    We only had three gameeks and team value 101.5. At present rate will be 108+ by xmas
    Buisness as usual

    1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Quite so.

    2. Arse Craic
      12 years, 1 month ago

      102.3 here 🙂

    3. Qubit
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Not necessarily, although i think team values will be fine (more in line with a few years ago) Quite possible to have 105ish. Remember there are ceilings of likely ownership to bear in mind.

    4. Konig Luther
      12 years, 1 month ago

      sell value is better

  27. Jacketts Potatoes
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Hi Folks,

    Any chance of a quick RMWCT on this lot. Any glaring bouts of stupidity?

    Krul
    Ivan clyne Dier
    Raheem fab Siggy Rambo
    Naismith Costa balo

    (Green) (dyer wisdom Hutton)

    £1.2 banked

    1. OptimusBlack
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Who is ur C

      1. Jacketts Potatoes
        12 years, 1 month ago

        at the mo I've got it on Costa with Balo as the VC incase of a costa no show....

        My concerns are that its a bit shite really..

        Feel like the DIER bubble will burst fairly soon as will the NAISMITH form...

        Just not feeling it but getting too late to change

  28. OptimusBlack
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Who to play this GW ?

    A- Zaha v.s BUR (H)

    B- Siggy v.s CHE (A)

  29. Art Vandelay
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Bench one of Siggy, Fletcher or Chadli?

    Cheers and GL

    1. Konig Luther
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Fletcher

    2. Jomica
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Yea fletcher least likely for pts this week

  30. Hansel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Currently going Costa (C) and Roo (VC). Really don't see people with costa as VC, you wan't someone guaranteed minutes as your vc in case the captain doesn't make it (goes for those of you captaining sterling where there is talk about him being rested, falcao not sure to start, and so on)