[sbu_large_image] Preamble
13 September 2014 2753 comments
Mark Mark
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In case you missed it (and, doubtless, the intention is that you do), the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) have appeared to have tweaked the algorithm that governs their player prices and, as a result, slowed the increases of player values. Where last season a strong bandwagon would soar, sometimes adding 0.3 to a player’s price in a week, now we’re seeing far steadier rises. While most of the three million who play FPL will be oblivious to this, many amongst the Fantasy Football Scout community are very aware of the change; some are not particularly enamoured by it.

I have to admit, I’m slightly biased on the matter. I was badly stung by player values last season. I missed several key bandwagons and watched those players – Aaron Ramsey and Yaya Toure – accelerate away from my budget, making it even more difficult for me to admit my error and bring them in after big points hauls.

Even before last season, though, I’ve always felt that the FPL market was too volatile, that players soared and dropped in price too quickly. I hear the arguments that this new landscape makes things easier for the “mainstream” and “casual” player but I’m struggling to see how this would persuade the FPL to shift back to a more changeable market. It may even have been the intention.

The Premier League want to attract and, more importantly, retain players. They’ve developed a game that has captured our imagination as seasoned Fantasy managers but they may have identified rising player prices as a factor that perturbs the more casual player. The Premier League don’t want to explain and make the price changes transparent – keeping them under wraps allows them to tinker during the season. Instead, they appear to have opted to curb their influence.

The calming of the price rises does remove some of the “advantage” (Tom Fenley won last season’s FPL title without monitoring them) gained by those who studied third-party tools and plotted the transfer strategies accordingly. However, equally, it also reduces the frustration we face when a bandwagon faces a term of absence.

Daniel Sturridge provides a timely example: he could be out for three weeks or more and yet his owners will have little qualms about selling him on because his price has not increased markedly, as a result there’s little or no concern on funds lost or the inability to fetch him back once he’s fit. In previous seasons, I’ve always felt we can be punished for getting in early on key players, watching them rise and then face the conundrum of losing funds when they pick up injuries or bans. That issue is exacerbated by the rapid rise in price in form players; based on the current trends, that should now be reduced.

This undoubtedly tweaks the mechanics of the game. If I miss out on a major bandwagon, I can jump on board a week later, leaving it until the following Friday and pay just 0.1 more or even the same price as those who beat me to the punch. Last season, in that scenario, I might have felt pushed into spending points or making my transfer early in the following week or risk paying 0.2 or 0.3 more.

The rewards for getting the right player at the right time aren’t reduced – those who make the right call, still get the points. However, the penalties for missing out have diminished. It’s not that the hardcore, hands-on manager is being punished, more that the casual manager can now relax, dip into the game every Friday and not get the impression that they are at a disadvantage.

The “hardcore” manager can object to this change but, realistically, we can’t expect the move to be reversed if it’s seen to broaden the appeal of the game. We just have to accept it and play what’s in front of us, relying on our ability swoop for big hauls and leave others chasing points. We also have to remember that the FPL have kept the system behind the player prices to themselves for this very reason – they reserved the right to change the way it worked and tweak the balance – it’s not in the rules so we have no guarantees.

On another note, I find it interesting that there’s a section of Fantasy managers that are missing this aspect of the FPL and the task of tracking market forces. Fantasy games often baulk at the idea of using stat-driven scoring matrix for fear of adding too much complexity. And yet, from the reaction to this recent change, a good deal of us enjoy the process of monitoring and playing a mechanic that is unexplained and revealed only by the use of third-party tools. We can’t deny that the art of player the FPL market was and still is a dark art – a hardcore pursuit. Seemingly, however, it’s something we’ll be left hankering for.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Captain Peacock
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Well, they said I was insane to make Zaha captain. We'll see if they were right. Feel free to laugh at me if he blanks or worse. But if he strikes I'll be ecstatic.

    1. Dr Dream
      12 years, 1 month ago

      good pick.

    2. Captain Shirokov
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Unnecessary risk.

      1. Captain Peacock
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Unnecessary risks are what make life worth living, mon Ami.

        1. Captain Shirokov
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Not in FPL, though.

          1. Captain Peacock
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Bored of playing it safe and conservative all the time.

    3. FPLEL
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Exciting pick considering most of the big captain choices are not 100% and Palace have a decent attack.

    4. mutatedllama
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Go big or go home. I like it.

      Possibility of him playing OOP striker...

    5. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Good luck!

  2. Judas
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Why are City playing Lampard, Navas and Milner over Toure, Dzeko and Nasri?!?!?

    1. Captain Shirokov
      12 years, 1 month ago

      For the laugh.

    2. Captain Peacock
      12 years, 1 month ago

      For fun!

    3. Jebiga
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Because city have the best players and subs in pl

  3. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Navas and Zabaleta vs Özil and Monreal

    😆

    1. Jebiga
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Navas and zaba if you ask me 😉

  4. Christina.
    12 years, 1 month ago

    My 4 month old Lab has just rolled in the fecking mud/water that came out of the blocked drain I cleaned this morning.

    FFS

    1. beric
      12 years, 1 month ago

      What do you call a canine magian?

      1. beric
        12 years, 1 month ago

        A labracadabrador

        1. Christina.
          12 years, 1 month ago

          lol

    2. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Time to bath it before kick off Spud.

      1. Christina.
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Nah, screw that.

        *open another beer

        1. In Like Flynn.
          • Has Moderation Rights
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Hose it down?

          1. Christina.
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Nah. She can jump into the pool.

    3. Piggs Boson
      12 years, 1 month ago

      😆

    4. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Sure it's not a Pig

      1. Tommytour
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Join this UFPL league pal

        41-3864

        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Will do but I help my mum manage hers so it will be her team

          1. Tommytour
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Your a good son

            Or is it because of the laws over here 😉

            1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
              12 years, 1 month ago

              I am a good son

      2. Christina.
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Do pig's have fleas?

        1. In Like Flynn.
          • Has Moderation Rights
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Never noticed any. I reckon they're skin would be too thick.

        2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
          12 years, 1 month ago

          No but they roll in shite

          1. Billy Gilmore
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Can't tell if we're talking about Tina or the dog here.

            lol

            1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
              12 years, 1 month ago

              Bit of both Billy

              1. Christina.
                12 years, 1 month ago

                Jebus guys. I can hear everything you say.

                🙁

      3. Gaz Downright
        • Has Moderation Rights
        12 years, 1 month ago

        😆

  5. The Finnisher
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Just setting up my team next week...

    (C)hadli or Mc(C)arthy?

    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Fal(C)ao

      1. The Finnisher
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Also possible.

  6. FPL Daniel
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Top 50 managers stats:

    Captain Duties This Gameweek:
    Captain selections: Diego Costa : 34.00%, Sterling : 20.00%, Fábregas : 12.00%, Falcao : 6.00%, Ivanovic : 6.00%, Rooney : 6.00%, Sánchez : 4.00%, Schneiderlin : 2.00%, Balotelli : 2.00%, Ramsey : 2.00%, Hazard : 2.00%, Welbeck : 2.00%, Di María : 2.00%,

    Team Selections This Gameweek:
    Goalkeeper selections: Lloris : 24.00%, Begovic : 14.00%, Krul : 12.00%, Foster : 6.00%, De Gea : 6.00%, Mignolet : 6.00%, Forster : 4.00%, Hart : 4.00%, Speroni : 4.00%, Mannone : 4.00%, Howard : 2.00%, Guzan : 2.00%, Boruc : 2.00%, Szczesny : 2.00%, McGregor : 2.00%, Courtois : 2.00%, Adrián : 2.00%, Schmeichel : 2.00%,

    Defender selections: Ivanovic: 76.00%, Lovren: 30.00%, Dier: 26.00%, Clyne: 22.00%, Shawcross: 22.00%, Moreno: 14.00%, Janmaat: 12.00%, Wilson: 10.00%, Chester: 10.00%, Vlaar: 10.00%, Debuchy: 8.00%, Coleman: 8.00%, Fonte: 6.00%, Clichy: 6.00%, Kolarov: 6.00%, Koscielny: 4.00%, Baines: 4.00%, Zabaleta: 4.00%, Vertonghen: 4.00%, Pieters: 4.00%, Cahill: 4.00%, Azpilicueta: 4.00%, Coloccini: 4.00%, Hutton: 4.00%, Dummett: 2.00%, Chambers: 2.00%, Rose: 2.00%, Terry: 2.00%, McShane: 2.00%, Dawson: 2.00%, James: 2.00%, StevenTaylor: 2.00%, Stones: 2.00%, Wisdom: 2.00%, Duff: 2.00%, vanAanholt: 2.00%, Bardsley: 2.00%, Skrtel: 2.00%, Kompany: 2.00%, Yoshida: 2.00%, Mariappa: 2.00%, Cameron: 2.00%,

    Midfielder selections: Sterling: 74.00%, Ramsey: 72.00%, Sigurdsson: 70.00%, Fábregas: 66.00%, Dyer: 22.00%, Sánchez: 12.00%, Henderson: 12.00%, Schneiderlin: 10.00%, Mata: 10.00%, Lamela: 10.00%, DiMaría: 10.00%, Matic: 8.00%, Silva: 8.00%, Schürrle: 6.00%, Eriksen: 6.00%, Gerrard: 6.00%, Zaha: 4.00%, Hazard: 4.00%, Ward-Prowse: 4.00%, Cabella: 2.00%, Shelvey: 2.00%, Huddlestone: 2.00%, Tadic: 2.00%, Coutinho: 2.00%, BenArfa: 2.00%, Nasri: 2.00%,

    Striker selections: DiegoCosta: 88.00%, Naismith: 50.00%, Rooney: 28.00%, Balotelli: 12.00%, Welbeck: 10.00%, Falcao: 8.00%, Weimann: 6.00%, Adebayor: 6.00%, Jovetic: 6.00%, Agüero: 2.00%, Lukaku: 2.00%, Agbonlahor: 2.00%, Zárate: 2.00%, Berahino: 2.00%, Jelavic: 2.00%, Bony: 2.00%, Diouf: 2.00%, Pellè: 2.00%, Bojan: 2.00%,

    Bench selections: Krul: 22.00%, Sigurdsson: 18.00%, Vlaar: 18.00%, Myhill: 12.00%, Dier: 12.00%, Hutton: 12.00%, Wisdom: 12.00%, Given: 12.00%, Bruce: 10.00%, Mannone: 10.00%, Jovetic: 10.00%, Taylor: 10.00%, Naismith: 8.00%, Guzan: 8.00%, Duff: 8.00%, Fabianski: 8.00%, Ferdinand: 6.00%, Bojan: 6.00%, Jones: 6.00%, Chambers: 6.00%, Dummett: 6.00%, Foster: 4.00%, KiSung-Yueng: 4.00%, Rodwell: 4.00%, Clichy: 4.00%, Schmeichel: 4.00%, Debuchy: 4.00%, Lambert: 4.00%, Ward-Prowse: 4.00%, DiegoCosta: 4.00%, Murphy: 4.00%, Cameron: 4.00%, Kolarov: 4.00%,

    Very very interesting numbers in there...

    1. The Finnisher
      12 years, 1 month ago

      wtf

      1. FPL Daniel
        12 years, 1 month ago

        It is good to know against who you are. I personally love this stats..

        1. mutatedllama
          12 years, 1 month ago

          I love 'em too, keep 'em coming!

    2. FPL Daniel
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Looks like Rooney captain could bring us upturn in rankings for us hardcore managers..Also Sterling bench/blank could be fruitful for ranking too

      1. Dr Dream
        12 years, 1 month ago

        and Costa..The differentials could all be in the (c) picks this week..or not picks if you know what I mean.

        1. FPL Daniel
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Yes yes I agree with u Wakey

    3. mutatedllama
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Only 1 person has Agüero!

      1. Fergies fledgling
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Aguero differential. Crazy to think. Glad I have him in my team.

    4. Dr Dream
      12 years, 1 month ago

      So reduced minutes for Costa would (hopefully) take a few out of the game this week.

      1. beric
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Its hardly gunna tale them out the gamr

    5. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Thanks Daniel, I'll have a read through later.

    6. Declan
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Cheers Daniel

      1. FPL Daniel
        12 years, 1 month ago

        U r all welcomed... Will try to avoid decimal places in the future

    7. Billy Gilmore
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Love the completely unnecessary 2 decimal places 😆

      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        12 years, 1 month ago

        There's a lot pf unnecessary things about Daniel

        1. FPL Daniel
          12 years, 1 month ago

          What do you suggest to avoid for next time? I am opened for suggestions..

          1. JK - Cønt ⭐
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Avoid the crazy rants (though I do like them)

            If a percentage is 2, the .00 is just not needed, looks too clustered

            1. FPL Daniel
              12 years, 1 month ago

              Will do. Thanks

          2. The Finnisher
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Just do the numbers before the ".00" otherwise it's a mess.

            Appreciate the work though.

            1. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              12 years, 1 month ago

              Copy & paste.

      2. Tommytour
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Are you in 7shades UFPL league?

        41-3864

        1. Billy Gilmore
          12 years, 1 month ago

          I am now. Had a horrible start though...

    8. Les Bleus
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Very interesting, thanks!

      1. FPL Daniel
        12 years, 1 month ago

        U r welcome

    9. Christina.
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Jesus.

      It feels like Im back at school and doing maths.

    10. Qubit
      12 years, 1 month ago

      interesting reading, but at this stage the top 50 is fairly meaningless and hence the numbers carry limited meaning.

    11. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Thanks Daniel.

      Was this your own work, out of interest? I notice Discovery hasn't updated yet!

      1. FPL Daniel
        12 years, 1 month ago

        It is one addition to chrome...

    12. zippyrocket
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Woo... I'm one of those managers. My first time ever to be honest.

  7. AriseSirGiggsy
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Why did I captain Aguero????

    1. beric
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Its a great choice

    2. Fantasy Football Friend!
      12 years, 1 month ago

      He's the best striker in the league and Arsenal are lightweight against the top teams?

  8. 1-1 at Newcastle
    12 years, 1 month ago

    COYG

  9. FPL Daniel
    12 years, 1 month ago

    City vs United is just starting. Finally football again and IB is over. Goooo Cityyyyy!!!!

    1. Valar(Keith)
      12 years, 1 month ago

      *arsenal

      1. beric
        12 years, 1 month ago

        He means the big game, blues leeds

        1. FPL Daniel
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Yes the big game, blues leeds 😉

    2. beric
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Goooooo cityyyyyy

  10. Lanley Staurel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    So how many have we all got playing in the first game? Just Sanchez for me.

    1. Les Bleus
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Rambo

    2. Valar(Keith)
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Ramsey + Welbeck.. and Debuchy on the bench.

    3. Wilshere Knowledge
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Welbeck, Ramsey, Sanchez, Aguero. 😀

      1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
        12 years, 1 month ago

        😀

    4. Fergies fledgling
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Just Kun for me

  11. Ole Gunnar Kush
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Is Yaya on the bench?

    1. Wax
      12 years, 1 month ago

      No

      1. Ole Gunnar Kush
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Is he injured?

        1. Wax
          12 years, 1 month ago

          no idea

  12. Saniul
    12 years, 1 month ago

    ARS bench: Ospina, Chambers, Gibbs, Arteta, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Cazorla, Podolski.

    Finally a day when we see an extremely strong Arsenal bench. And yeah, we have had to leave Rosicky and Campbell out of the bench.

    1. Wirtzle Gummidge
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Looks like Welbeck may get the 90 too.

    2. Fergies fledgling
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Wot, no Sanogo? 😉

  13. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Quick one.....

    Welbeck or Naismith

    1. Tommytour
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I went Naismith

    2. Ole Gunnar Kush
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Welbeck

    3. Captain Peacock
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Naismith

    4. Kerz
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Welbeck

    5. Valar(Keith)
      12 years, 1 month ago

      might as well watch welbeck's debut and decide that after? or is this for ufpl

      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Ufpl

    6. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Hmmmmmm thanks, going welbeck feck it

  14. Christina.
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Soooo Dzeko not playing.....greaaaat start to the GW.

    😡

    1. Billy Gilmore
      12 years, 1 month ago

      lol

      *looks at Dzeko in team

      🙁

      1. Christina.
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Dammit.

    2. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      good start for me in our H2H

      1. Christina.
        12 years, 1 month ago

        wtf? Where?

  15. seanie3
    12 years, 1 month ago

    what position do people think blind will play and is he a better pick than schneiderlin for UFPL

    1. Tommytour
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Both poor picks

      Get Zaha Dyer etc

      1. seanie3
        12 years, 1 month ago

        so if I have siggy should I just go zaha? or double up on dyer

        1. Tommytour
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Zaha opens up more options

  16. AriseSirGiggsy
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Yaya dropped wowzers

  17. FPL Daniel
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Did the mods deleted my post?

      1. FPL Daniel
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Still can't find it here

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Have another look.

    1. FPL Daniel
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I really don't get it why. Top 50 managers stats are very nice input for us managers. Please return it

      1. FPL Daniel
        12 years, 1 month ago

        All good thank you TM, love u

        1. FPL Daniel
          12 years, 1 month ago

          WOW green. Can't belive it. Juuuuuhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

          1. Captain Shirokov
            12 years, 1 month ago

            😆

          2. Declan
            12 years, 1 month ago

            🙂

          3. 7shadesofsmoke
            12 years, 1 month ago

            😆

  18. GoonerByron
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Ultimate FPL players.. Who are you captaining today?

    1. SW6
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Sterling, mainly because I don't have him in FPL.

    2. Alan The Llama
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Dougie Costa

    3. Tommytour
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Mario 😎

    4. Debauchy
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Hazard

  19. Coaly
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Play two: Wilson (qpr), Clyne (swa), Naylor (SOU), Duff (SUN)

    1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
      12 years, 1 month ago

      already? 😯

      1. Coaly
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Never too early

  20. Somalion
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Merson is such a twit.

    If City lose today and against Chelsea next week then they're 100% out of the title race. In September.

  21. mranonymous
    12 years, 1 month ago

    If Lovren blanks do you think he'll drop tomorrow?

    1. rickardinho
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Who cares he's a great pick anyways even if he falls. I fancy him to have a good game today without Benteke playing.

  22. adddiii
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Best aap on android for scores

    1. Coaly
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Score mobile

    2. Jebiga
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Goal

  23. seanie3
    12 years, 1 month ago

    which one for the long term

    a) rooney
    b) falcao

    1. Tommytour
      12 years, 1 month ago

      B

    2. Wax
      12 years, 1 month ago

      A

    3. adddiii
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Thanx

  24. 123thro
    12 years, 1 month ago

    was I right having Marney as my first bench player, or should it have been Duff? Cheers 🙂

  25. davies
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone reckon Leicester can grab a point today?

    1. mutatedllama
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Sure they can. It could well be a low scoring draw.

  26. rickardinho
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Captained Tadic... you can compliment me later lads 🙂 lol

  27. Mulder
    12 years, 1 month ago

    0 - Against no side has Danny Welbeck played more often in the PL without scoring than Manchester City (8, same as Liverpool). Challenge.

    LMAO

    1. Alan The Llama
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Who wrote that? Yoda?

    2. Wilshere Knowledge
      12 years, 1 month ago

      How many as a striker though?

  28. Saniul
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Checks Oranje XI.

    Naismith (c) && Pelle (c) 😎

  29. Piggs Boson
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Lampard atg 9/2

  30. Team News
    12 years, 1 month ago

    @DTguardian
    Little injury update on Stevan Jovetic: his hamstring injury isn't bad, came close to being included in MCFC squad today

    1. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Thanks TN.