[sbu_large_image] Preamble
13 September 2014 2753 comments
Mark Mark
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In case you missed it (and, doubtless, the intention is that you do), the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) have appeared to have tweaked the algorithm that governs their player prices and, as a result, slowed the increases of player values. Where last season a strong bandwagon would soar, sometimes adding 0.3 to a player’s price in a week, now we’re seeing far steadier rises. While most of the three million who play FPL will be oblivious to this, many amongst the Fantasy Football Scout community are very aware of the change; some are not particularly enamoured by it.

I have to admit, I’m slightly biased on the matter. I was badly stung by player values last season. I missed several key bandwagons and watched those players – Aaron Ramsey and Yaya Toure – accelerate away from my budget, making it even more difficult for me to admit my error and bring them in after big points hauls.

Even before last season, though, I’ve always felt that the FPL market was too volatile, that players soared and dropped in price too quickly. I hear the arguments that this new landscape makes things easier for the “mainstream” and “casual” player but I’m struggling to see how this would persuade the FPL to shift back to a more changeable market. It may even have been the intention.

The Premier League want to attract and, more importantly, retain players. They’ve developed a game that has captured our imagination as seasoned Fantasy managers but they may have identified rising player prices as a factor that perturbs the more casual player. The Premier League don’t want to explain and make the price changes transparent – keeping them under wraps allows them to tinker during the season. Instead, they appear to have opted to curb their influence.

The calming of the price rises does remove some of the “advantage” (Tom Fenley won last season’s FPL title without monitoring them) gained by those who studied third-party tools and plotted the transfer strategies accordingly. However, equally, it also reduces the frustration we face when a bandwagon faces a term of absence.

Daniel Sturridge provides a timely example: he could be out for three weeks or more and yet his owners will have little qualms about selling him on because his price has not increased markedly, as a result there’s little or no concern on funds lost or the inability to fetch him back once he’s fit. In previous seasons, I’ve always felt we can be punished for getting in early on key players, watching them rise and then face the conundrum of losing funds when they pick up injuries or bans. That issue is exacerbated by the rapid rise in price in form players; based on the current trends, that should now be reduced.

This undoubtedly tweaks the mechanics of the game. If I miss out on a major bandwagon, I can jump on board a week later, leaving it until the following Friday and pay just 0.1 more or even the same price as those who beat me to the punch. Last season, in that scenario, I might have felt pushed into spending points or making my transfer early in the following week or risk paying 0.2 or 0.3 more.

The rewards for getting the right player at the right time aren’t reduced – those who make the right call, still get the points. However, the penalties for missing out have diminished. It’s not that the hardcore, hands-on manager is being punished, more that the casual manager can now relax, dip into the game every Friday and not get the impression that they are at a disadvantage.

The “hardcore” manager can object to this change but, realistically, we can’t expect the move to be reversed if it’s seen to broaden the appeal of the game. We just have to accept it and play what’s in front of us, relying on our ability swoop for big hauls and leave others chasing points. We also have to remember that the FPL have kept the system behind the player prices to themselves for this very reason – they reserved the right to change the way it worked and tweak the balance – it’s not in the rules so we have no guarantees.

On another note, I find it interesting that there’s a section of Fantasy managers that are missing this aspect of the FPL and the task of tracking market forces. Fantasy games often baulk at the idea of using stat-driven scoring matrix for fear of adding too much complexity. And yet, from the reaction to this recent change, a good deal of us enjoy the process of monitoring and playing a mechanic that is unexplained and revealed only by the use of third-party tools. We can’t deny that the art of player the FPL market was and still is a dark art – a hardcore pursuit. Seemingly, however, it’s something we’ll be left hankering for.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Sterling or baines captain?

    1. Christina.
      12 years, 1 month ago

      You really need to get your mum on here with a gravatar and all. She will enjoy our company.

      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        12 years, 1 month ago

        She would eat you alive Rudi

        1. Christina.
          12 years, 1 month ago

          😯

    2. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Baines?

      Rule 2

      1. Christina.
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Hey you, where are we involved in a h2h?

        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          12 years, 1 month ago

          LAWR I think

          I think it's you

          1. Christina.
            12 years, 1 month ago

            You Jim Croft? Turbo Dog's dinner?

            If not, then its not me.

            1. Billy Gilmore
              12 years, 1 month ago

              lol

              1. Christina.
                12 years, 1 month ago

                Whaat?

                1. Billy Gilmore
                  12 years, 1 month ago

                  @JK

            2. JK - Cønt ⭐
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              12 years, 1 month ago

              then it's not you

              1. Christina.
                12 years, 1 month ago

                ..thought so.

                I would never forget such a pretty face as yours.

                😳

    3. Les Bleus
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I'm pretty sure it's too late to choose...

      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        12 years, 1 month ago

        It's not

        1. Les Bleus
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Ah, in that case it's too early to ask imo 😛

          1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Ufpl

    4. Woy of the Wovers
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Sorry. My time machine isn't working.

      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Think again batman

    5. Declan-
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I went for sterling

  2. trimmtrabb
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Has totalfpl not got a full handle on the new system? I notice some players that are over 100% aren't rising..

    Also is it possible that players are dropping in price quicker than they are rising? As with decreases its the same as last season but the system for rising has been slowed down..

    1. Fergies fledgling
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Nah all the price change sites are b0rked.

  3. Christina.
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone reckon Leicester can grab a point today?

    1. Wilshere Knowledge
      12 years, 1 month ago

      3 points.

    2. mutatedllama
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Yes. I predict 1-1

    3. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Really hope so, but a narrow loss is likely.

  4. The Chosen One...
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Silva, Navas, Milner and Aguero up front. Kos and Mert gonna manhandle them

    1. AriseSirGiggsy
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Pace versus lack of pace..... Lampards supply to them will be key

  5. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Some interesting captains in the top 100

    Ings, Jelavic & Aguero have 1 each.

    1. Bolivian Seaman
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Who has the most? Costa?

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Costa 38, Sterling 20

    2. The Chosen One...
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Love it. No more automatic (c) choices this season

  6. Assisting you all day
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone else got rvp captain? or only me

    1. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Only you.

    2. Piggs Boson
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Me

    3. Zoom Zoom
      12 years, 1 month ago

      RVP is my captain... and he will rock the house

  7. Mind över Mata
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    The basic message from the article is to play more like a casual, do transfers on Thurs/Fri and largely ignore price changes. That sums it up, right?

    1. AriseSirGiggsy
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Yeah I think so
      The price market seems less important
      Which is a shame if you ask me

      1. Mind över Mata
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Agreed - half the fun

    2. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I get the feeling Mark would prefer is there was no transfer market.

    3. The Chosen One...
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Casuals do transfers when they log on on the Monday and get in the highest scoring player for the GW

      1. In Like Flynn.
        • Has Moderation Rights
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Must have been some survey you did.

        1. The Chosen One...
          12 years, 1 month ago

          That's what I used to do 😉

          1. In Like Flynn.
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            12 years, 1 month ago

            🙂

      2. Pinturicchio
        12 years, 1 month ago

        I can tell you that when I was in an office league, everyone but me did theirs at 4:30 p.m. on a Friday.

  8. Plymouth
    12 years, 1 month ago

    I think Sterling will start on the bench, and eventually get brought on if they struggle to break down AV. Could be a major burn for the captainers.

    1. AriseSirGiggsy
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Thats why I didn't captain him

  9. Somalion
    12 years, 1 month ago

    So CL rotation takes a toll already.

    1. Fergies fledgling
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Seems to be more Pello wanting to pack the midfield and go one up front. Hence no Dzeko

      Yaya injured I imagine as not even on the bench.

      1. Alan The Llama
        12 years, 1 month ago

        He just said he isn't injured, just tired.

        1. big oak
          12 years, 1 month ago

          he put on some weight from all the cakes he's receiving at home

      2. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
        12 years, 1 month ago

        no he isn't injured. just rested

      3. Jönny
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Got back late from Africa, apparently.

        1. Fergies fledgling
          12 years, 1 month ago

          this makes a lot of sense. They only played Wednesday night so would be back late Thursday and only have one day of training

          1. Alan The Llama
            12 years, 1 month ago

            He came back on Friday.

      4. Somalion
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Nasri on bench too. I have a feeling they're focusing on the CL tie.

    2. Tommytour
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Or they didn't get him a welcome back cake

  10. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
    12 years, 1 month ago

    5/1 lampard to score anytime. worth a flutter?

    will he be holding in midfield or getting forward?

    1. big oak
      12 years, 1 month ago

      from the formation, he seems to be playing box to box (yaya's position)
      which means he will only last 60min

  11. Tin of Directors
    12 years, 1 month ago

    3 Arsenal in this game (Debuchy, Rambo, Welbeck)
    GULP

    1. 32chickens
      12 years, 1 month ago

      and arsenal playing at lunchtime........

      1. Tin of Directors
        12 years, 1 month ago

        I know - my weekend could be over by 2.30

  12. Pedram
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Finally Premier League is back after two weeks of boring international matches. 😀

    1. Cobby
      12 years, 1 month ago

      +1

  13. Grubby
    12 years, 1 month ago

    RMT

    Forster (Schmeichel)
    Debuchy Bertrand Wisdom (Hutton, Taylor)
    Ramsey Sterling Fabregas Siggy (Zaha)
    Falcao Costa Welbeck

    1. Mile Plankton - Myth and Ch…
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Shame you benched Zaha.

  14. Mile Plankton - Myth and Ch…
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Can't help noticing that Welback is a bit overrated on here.

    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      or maybe he's just under-rated by you

      1. Mile Plankton - Myth and Ch…
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Maybe. He is underpriced by FPL, though. IMO

        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          12 years, 1 month ago

          He was priced as a Man Utd reserve, not an Arsenal starter

          1. Mile Plankton - Myth and Ch…
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Agreed.

    2. 7shadesofsmoke
      12 years, 1 month ago

      you realise he scored twice in his last game, don't you?

      This is how we roll

      1. Mile Plankton - Myth and Ch…
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah, people don't really look beyond that.

    3. big oak
      12 years, 1 month ago

      welbeck is a big question mark
      everybody agrees that hes got potential, he can turn out to be the next henry or another milner
      both cases at 16mil, hes worth a punt
      mcormack 11mil, shane long 12mil... welbeck 16mil?

      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Balotelli?

  15. Jordan.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Don't be said Dzeko owners,when aguero is broken, he will be an absolute must have,weve already got him ,bigger and better things to come....

    1. Jordan.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      sad

    2. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Someone trying to convince themself Dzeko is a better pick than Aguero. This is a new and exciting level of delusion.

      1. Jordan.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        12 years, 1 month ago

        he is ,aguero is a walking sicknote and dzeko is 3.6 coins cheaper...

      2. Wilshere Knowledge
        12 years, 1 month ago

        😀

  16. Wirtzle Gummidge
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Somewhere, out there... there is a lone Lampard (c)

    1. Somalion
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Jamie Redknapp.

  17. 7shadesofsmoke
    12 years, 1 month ago

    😯 just noticed no Yaya?!

    Dropped Rambo for Di Maria for a few weeks, mega gamble. Praying for him to stay quiet today

    1. Tommytour
      12 years, 1 month ago

      How's your UFPL team end up?

      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        12 years, 1 month ago

        I'm pretty happy with it.

        Didn't find room for Benteke though - Adebayor held his spot thanks to those MD2 fixtures.

      2. 7shadesofsmoke
        12 years, 1 month ago

        How did you get on?

        1. Tommytour
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Wish I saved a few more transfers to be honest but happy with my big hitters

          1. Billy Gilmore
            12 years, 1 month ago

            I wasted 2

            1. 7shadesofsmoke
              12 years, 1 month ago

              Either of you punted on anyone?

              I'm quite excited about owning Chadli as a solid MD2 regular - i reckon he'll keep his spot, and Aguero and Kolorov could be fun this season

              1. Tommytour
                12 years, 1 month ago

                Mario 🙂

  18. Jayblue
    12 years, 1 month ago

    anyone knows chelsea team news? will costa start today? itseems he'll be given a late fitness test to decide whether he'll play or not

    1. XhakaCan
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Costa trained, but yes it might come down to a fitness test. I'd expected he will play.

    2. Jayblue
      12 years, 1 month ago

      this is my team for today
      begovic (krul)
      Dier | moreno | Ivanovic (taylor, trippier)
      fabre | siggy | mcgeady | sterling (chadli)
      falcao | costa | naismith

  19. You Must Be Jokin Ere
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Why are FPL calling Tottenham "Spurs" ??

    What's next........Hull Tigers??

    1. 7shadesofsmoke
      12 years, 1 month ago

      nah, they'd be 'Gers.

    2. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      because FIFA call them Spurs IMO

    3. Woy of the Wovers
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I already call them Hull Tigers. Football League can't tell me what I can't do.

  20. The Chosen One...
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Prediction: Dzeko to come on at HT after Aguero struggles being isolated in the first half

    1. The Finnisher
      12 years, 1 month ago

      If Dzeko comes on at HT it won't be for Aguero unless he is injured (which to be fair, is pretty likely)

      1. The Chosen One...
        12 years, 1 month ago

        He'll come on for Navas/Milner and play 2 up front

        1. The Finnisher
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Agree. Can't see them taking Aguero off if they are struggling going forward.

          1. Billy Gilmore
            12 years, 1 month ago

            He never said they would take Aguero off.

    2. 32chickens
      12 years, 1 month ago

      after aguero scores 3

    3. Dr Dream
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Or limps off...

    4. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I need that. No starting him is a blow.

  21. S.Kuqi
    12 years, 1 month ago

    This is the day when I need Costa to score atleast 2. Huge captain differential in my ML.

    1. big oak
      12 years, 1 month ago

      first swansea are flying high
      second i was worried he will only play for couple minutes and then go off (remember CL final?)
      but with every moment approaching i am regretting not captaining him more and more

      1. S.Kuqi
        12 years, 1 month ago

        They wont play him if theres even slim chance to get injured again? CL final is bit different than Swans game 😀

      2. money face bandwagon
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Would think costa play around 60plus min as remy is a good replacement

  22. Djerbil
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Have just come back and seen the teams

    😯 at that Man City team

    1. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      You mean lol at that Man City team

      1. Djerbil
        12 years, 1 month ago

        no they are still strong , didn't expect to see Yaya out of the squad

        1. Jairzinho
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          12 years, 1 month ago

          He's tired

  23. Skor Hattricksson
    12 years, 1 month ago

    94% of teams in the FantasyFootballScout.co.uk league have Costa.

    1. beric
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Hes a no brainer

    2. Billy Gilmore
      12 years, 1 month ago

      One of the 6%

      1. beric
        12 years, 1 month ago

        ^ no brain 😉

        1. Billy Gilmore
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Getting him back in (sigh) after City

        2. Woy of the Wovers
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Eh?!! So the 94% have no brain AND the 6% have no brain?!!

          1. Billy Gilmore
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Tbf anyone playing FPL probably has no brain 😉

        3. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          12 years, 1 month ago

          😆 Harsh!

    3. Geordienufc1
      12 years, 1 month ago

      You probably made that up, but in the event that you didn't - I represent the severe minority 😛

      1. Skor Hattricksson
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Google Chrome extension - FPL Mini-League Stats Calculator

        Didn't make it up at all.

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          12 years, 1 month ago

          That just does the top 50.

        2. Geordienufc1
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Very interesting - thanks. Definitely hoping for a costa blank then 😛

    4. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      12 years, 1 month ago

      You checked 20K teams?

      1. Billy Gilmore
        12 years, 1 month ago

        I assume he ran that ML stats script.

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          12 years, 1 month ago

          400 times?

          1. Skor Hattricksson
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Oh look, that script only does the top 50 teams. Thanks for making me see that. 🙂

      2. Skor Hattricksson
        12 years, 1 month ago

        76% of the teams still have their wildcard available

  24. GoonerByron
    12 years, 1 month ago

    2 minutes left.. Sanchez or Welbz captain?

    1. beric
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Welbeck

    2. Billy Gilmore
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Someone else. Sterling...Costa

      1. GoonerByron
        12 years, 1 month ago

        I like a big Saturday punt in Ultimate... Rooney backup for tomorrow 🙂

    3. big oak
      12 years, 1 month ago

      oops

  25. Christina.
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Im out of here.

    I don't like the crowd that's on now.

    1. beric
      12 years, 1 month ago

      🙁

    2. 7shadesofsmoke
      12 years, 1 month ago

      🙁

    3. big oak
      12 years, 1 month ago

      come back tuesday morning..... whatever time that is at ur end of the world

    4. Somalion
      12 years, 1 month ago

      😥

  26. Djerbil
    12 years, 1 month ago

    That Arsenal bench is mega , improved the squad so much in the Transfer market

    1. XhakaCan
      12 years, 1 month ago

      +1

  27. Qubit
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Im very interested to know what folks selling value is? (ie what can you sell your entire team for).

    1. Qubit
      12 years, 1 month ago

      mine is only 100.1.

      1. Les Bleus
        12 years, 1 month ago

        100.2

    2. rickardinho
      12 years, 1 month ago

      think mine is 100.6

    3. Fabreghastly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      100.6

    4. Jayblue
      12 years, 1 month ago

      my team value plus money in bank comes to 101.1

      1. Qubit
        12 years, 1 month ago

        is that what you get when you remove all your players on the transfer screen?

    5. big oak
      12 years, 1 month ago

      98.7 + 1.2 in the bank

  28. Jayblue
    12 years, 1 month ago

    RMT
    this is my team for today

    begovic (krul)
    Dier | moreno | Ivanovic (taylor, trippier)
    fabre | siggy | mcgeady | sterling (chadli)
    falcao | costa | naismith

    1. beric
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Not great

  29. Jairzinho
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Oh oh

    Together as one

  30. Nicks93
    12 years, 1 month ago

    And meaningful football is finally back

    1. big oak
      12 years, 1 month ago

      yeah cnt wait for hull-west ham!

      1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        12 years, 1 month ago

        😀