[sbu_large_image] Preamble
13 September 2014 2753 comments
Mark Mark
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In case you missed it (and, doubtless, the intention is that you do), the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) have appeared to have tweaked the algorithm that governs their player prices and, as a result, slowed the increases of player values. Where last season a strong bandwagon would soar, sometimes adding 0.3 to a player’s price in a week, now we’re seeing far steadier rises. While most of the three million who play FPL will be oblivious to this, many amongst the Fantasy Football Scout community are very aware of the change; some are not particularly enamoured by it.

I have to admit, I’m slightly biased on the matter. I was badly stung by player values last season. I missed several key bandwagons and watched those players – Aaron Ramsey and Yaya Toure – accelerate away from my budget, making it even more difficult for me to admit my error and bring them in after big points hauls.

Even before last season, though, I’ve always felt that the FPL market was too volatile, that players soared and dropped in price too quickly. I hear the arguments that this new landscape makes things easier for the “mainstream†and “casual†player but I’m struggling to see how this would persuade the FPL to shift back to a more changeable market. It may even have been the intention.

The Premier League want to attract and, more importantly, retain players. They’ve developed a game that has captured our imagination as seasoned Fantasy managers but they may have identified rising player prices as a factor that perturbs the more casual player. The Premier League don’t want to explain and make the price changes transparent – keeping them under wraps allows them to tinker during the season. Instead, they appear to have opted to curb their influence.

The calming of the price rises does remove some of the “advantage” (Tom Fenley won last season’s FPL title without monitoring them) gained by those who studied third-party tools and plotted the transfer strategies accordingly. However, equally, it also reduces the frustration we face when a bandwagon faces a term of absence.

Daniel Sturridge provides a timely example: he could be out for three weeks or more and yet his owners will have little qualms about selling him on because his price has not increased markedly, as a result there’s little or no concern on funds lost or the inability to fetch him back once he’s fit. In previous seasons, I’ve always felt we can be punished for getting in early on key players, watching them rise and then face the conundrum of losing funds when they pick up injuries or bans. That issue is exacerbated by the rapid rise in price in form players; based on the current trends, that should now be reduced.

This undoubtedly tweaks the mechanics of the game. If I miss out on a major bandwagon, I can jump on board a week later, leaving it until the following Friday and pay just 0.1 more or even the same price as those who beat me to the punch. Last season, in that scenario, I might have felt pushed into spending points or making my transfer early in the following week or risk paying 0.2 or 0.3 more.

The rewards for getting the right player at the right time aren’t reduced – those who make the right call, still get the points. However, the penalties for missing out have diminished. It’s not that the hardcore, hands-on manager is being punished, more that the casual manager can now relax, dip into the game every Friday and not get the impression that they are at a disadvantage.

The “hardcore†manager can object to this change but, realistically, we can’t expect the move to be reversed if it’s seen to broaden the appeal of the game. We just have to accept it and play what’s in front of us, relying on our ability swoop for big hauls and leave others chasing points. We also have to remember that the FPL have kept the system behind the player prices to themselves for this very reason – they reserved the right to change the way it worked and tweak the balance – it’s not in the rules so we have no guarantees.

On another note, I find it interesting that there’s a section of Fantasy managers that are missing this aspect of the FPL and the task of tracking market forces. Fantasy games often baulk at the idea of using stat-driven scoring matrix for fear of adding too much complexity. And yet, from the reaction to this recent change, a good deal of us enjoy the process of monitoring and playing a mechanic that is unexplained and revealed only by the use of third-party tools. We can’t deny that the art of player the FPL market was and still is a dark art – a hardcore pursuit. Seemingly, however, it’s something we’ll be left hankering for.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Jebiga
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    On wc. Crazy to go without ramsey ?

    Curtois
    Moreno, clyne, wilson, duff, hutton
    Di maria, fabregas, sterling, siggurdson, boyd
    Diego costa, aguero, welbeck

    1. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      No. He has a difficult fixture and you can always transfer him in next week if you want.

    2. S.Kuqi
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      You are good to go. Not too sure about Dimaria and Welbeck though.

    3. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Prob one Arsenal attacker enough coverage

  2. vova
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Had a dream today that Costa did indeed start today

    1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      was it wet?

      1. vova
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        how did you know? :/

    2. Breadbin
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      K

    3. TheInsideMan
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Had a dream today that the sun did indeed rise from the east today

  3. Kante Me If You Can
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Should i worry when my WC team almost 70% same with scout pick?

    1. Jebiga
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Yup

      1. Kante Me If You Can
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        but that the best def at least for 3 games ahead. same with mids. :/

  4. Nabs Kebabs
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    PVA or Janmaat on field?

    1. Wells - Anti-Dentite!
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      PvA

    2. Nazz
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      i didnt think u had those players?

  5. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Don't make any last minute changes. Regretting something you did is far worse than regretting something you didn't do imo. 😉

    1. tw
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      still have have 39 minutes to make changes then 😉

    2. Notorious
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Good advice. 🙂

    3. Liastro â­ï¸
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      What about if I've changed my captain so much I can't remember who I started with? 😉

  6. Dvorak-RTH
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Choose ;
    1) play taylor
    2) get lovren or moreno for jones for -4

  7. LMFAO
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    2nd one but both are good

  8. tw
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    bego
    terry moore pva
    ramsey cesc sterling (vc) siggy
    rooney costa (c) dzeko

    gilks, albrighton ferdinand naylor

    good to go?

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Blimey. That defence. Ah, well. Good to go - good luck!!!

  9. thomthom
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Start Wisdom or van Aanholt?

    1. tw
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      pva

  10. Coaly
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Just changed captain and vc from Costa Sterling to Balo Rooney, good idea?

    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Look up

      1. Coaly
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        🙠Costa though, is this a risk too far second week in a row with injury doubt

  11. WSRevilo
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Hey, would you with this team, 1FT and £1.5m.

    De Gea
    Cahill, Chester, O’Shea
    Siggy, Ramsey, Henderson, Erikson
    Costa, Balotelli, Rooney
    (Gilks, Chambers, Coloccini, King)

    Thinking Chambers -> Wilson for Stoke's fixtures, or retain the transfer to see how Falcao etc play?

    1. Coaly
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Eriksen to Haz

  12. Defcons are for Kinnear
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Whatever happened to objective reporting! It's clear as day that Mark is acting as a mouth piece for FPL. Sorry for the harsh words but we are playing the game and looking for advantages as hardcore players. I'd expect Mark to be more neutral

    1. Messi & fabregas
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      i dont know who mark is but surely this is not a fair system, it is like telling hardcore players give up lose interest in this game, and believe me i am personally very close in doing so, unless is that what they want to be a more casual game

      1. MTPockets
        11 years, 10 months ago

        Mark's the man, and it's just a game.

        1. Messi & fabregas
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          yes it is a game, an interesting game becoming a less interesting game

          1. MTPockets
            11 years, 10 months ago

            Fair enough. Doesn't really bother me. Quite like the fact I haven't had to WC as early to chase price rises this season, so means able to focus for longer on building a core team and actually giving it a chance to work. I imagine those who have already WCarded might be p!ssed.

    2. Burd Turglars
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Disagree entirely

    3. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      He can't be seeing to criticise them given their relationship can he?

    4. Woy of the Wovers
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Sounds like you want him to be biased.

  13. TotalJustice
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    moreno or lovern ??
    and other 4.5/4.0 defenderother wilson

  14. iCon
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Morning lads, not great options but who would you play out of:-

    A. Dummett
    B. Moore
    C. Chambers

    Cheers for any responses!

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Chambers. And I am.

      1. iCon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        You obviously think he'll start Doos? Or expecting another unexpected 6 pointer off the bench 😀

  15. Jacketts Potatoes
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Morning folks please RMWCT

    Krul
    Ivan clyne Dier
    Raheem fab Siggy Rambo
    Naismith Costa balo

    (Green) (dyer wisdom Hutton)

    £1.2 banked

  16. fitzy
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Moore over Debuchy for first bench spot?

    1. Gooner97
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      I'm playing Debuchy

      1. fitzy
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        Good luck mate.

        Trying to decide if Moores CS chance is higher than a Debuchy assist chance.

  17. Screaming Midget
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Does anyone know what the crack is with Alex Bruce? I've got him and El A, on my bench meaning currently 2 not even playing.

  18. Ando
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Currently on a WC. Baines or Coleman?

    Coleman - offers more from open play.

    Baines - on pens and some set pieces.

    1. PGR
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Baines

    2. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Coleman, always seems likely to score or assist in a match

    3. S.Kuqi
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Ivan and get Baines after gw7

    4. Nabs Kebabs
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      baines

      1. Nazz
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        genius did you play ur wildcard in the end...because i saw u were talkign about zaha??

  19. SMOOTH
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Please pick my back 3

    Debuchey wisdom Moore pva collocini

  20. fantasyfanatic2016
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Best pairing for the next 5 weeks...

    Bego and Azpi
    De Gea and Wilson

  21. Burd Turglars
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Nice pre-amble mark. Been scratching my head at Total FPL this week wondering why my TV hasn't sky-rocketed.

    Had I known this, I probably wouldn't have wildcarded. Hey ho.

  22. Make United Great Again
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Last Poll. 10 replies would be great

    Captain: A. Costa. B. Hazard

    GO GO!!

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      I would never captain Hazard under current circumstances. Just my opinion.

      1. JK - Cønt â­
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        It worked for me in GW2 tbf

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Was he your highest scorer? If not, it didn't.

          1. JK - Cønt â­
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            well he outscored Costa who most people had

            He got 9, only player who scored more was Mata with 10 and i would never have captained Mata

      2. Make United Great Again
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        Costa it is

  23. Gooner97
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Would you captain Costa or Hazard?

    1. MTPockets
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Have Costa/Fab and Costa captain.

    2. tw
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      costa

  24. jaredwilliams
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    WCT:

    Clyne, Baines, Lovren (Wisdom, Moore)

    Siggy, Sterling, Fabregas, _______ (Zaha)

    Aguero, Costa, Naismith

    I have 7.7 ITB but would love to find 0.3 to get Lamela into my final spot. Anyone got any ideas where to find the 0.3?

    1. Jebiga
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Wilson > baines

    2. Quinny___
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      downgrade lovren to moreno

    3. Donblaster
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Maybe Lovren to Manquillo or Clyne to Wilson. Tadic would be my pick for 7.5

  25. MTPockets
    11 years, 10 months ago

    One to bench of Silva, Ramsey, Siggy, Naismith?

  26. supperspout
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    ramsey to sterling (4)?? Liverpool fixtures are much better, sterling ill be playing advanced and Ramsey's a doubt. I'm pretty sure this is the right move put can't pull the trigger.

    Opinions?

    1. MTPockets
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Not for a hit no.

  27. Atwood
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Who would you have first on your bench

    Chester or Siggy?

    1. Notorious
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Siggy

    2. mouldy_uk
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      I would play Siggy, crazy not to

  28. Quinny___
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Is keeping 2m in the bank to much? I have balo and im keeping 2m to get in aguero next week or two weeks
    ?

    1. My name is an echo
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      save for a rainy day

    2. ireland123
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Who are your other strikers?

      1. Quinny___
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        Costa and naismith ??

  29. My name is an echo
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Oh dear. Is Mata going to be dropped? Not seeing him in any predicted line ups

  30. LetsDoWellWBFC
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Pick 3 that I should start:

    NTaylor (che) Wisdom (eve) Terry (swa) Chester (whu) Moore (stk)

    Thanks 🙂

    1. tw
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      terry chester moore