[sbu_large_image] Preamble
13 September 2014 2753 comments
Mark Mark
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In case you missed it (and, doubtless, the intention is that you do), the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) have appeared to have tweaked the algorithm that governs their player prices and, as a result, slowed the increases of player values. Where last season a strong bandwagon would soar, sometimes adding 0.3 to a player’s price in a week, now we’re seeing far steadier rises. While most of the three million who play FPL will be oblivious to this, many amongst the Fantasy Football Scout community are very aware of the change; some are not particularly enamoured by it.

I have to admit, I’m slightly biased on the matter. I was badly stung by player values last season. I missed several key bandwagons and watched those players – Aaron Ramsey and Yaya Toure – accelerate away from my budget, making it even more difficult for me to admit my error and bring them in after big points hauls.

Even before last season, though, I’ve always felt that the FPL market was too volatile, that players soared and dropped in price too quickly. I hear the arguments that this new landscape makes things easier for the “mainstream” and “casual” player but I’m struggling to see how this would persuade the FPL to shift back to a more changeable market. It may even have been the intention.

The Premier League want to attract and, more importantly, retain players. They’ve developed a game that has captured our imagination as seasoned Fantasy managers but they may have identified rising player prices as a factor that perturbs the more casual player. The Premier League don’t want to explain and make the price changes transparent – keeping them under wraps allows them to tinker during the season. Instead, they appear to have opted to curb their influence.

The calming of the price rises does remove some of the “advantage” (Tom Fenley won last season’s FPL title without monitoring them) gained by those who studied third-party tools and plotted the transfer strategies accordingly. However, equally, it also reduces the frustration we face when a bandwagon faces a term of absence.

Daniel Sturridge provides a timely example: he could be out for three weeks or more and yet his owners will have little qualms about selling him on because his price has not increased markedly, as a result there’s little or no concern on funds lost or the inability to fetch him back once he’s fit. In previous seasons, I’ve always felt we can be punished for getting in early on key players, watching them rise and then face the conundrum of losing funds when they pick up injuries or bans. That issue is exacerbated by the rapid rise in price in form players; based on the current trends, that should now be reduced.

This undoubtedly tweaks the mechanics of the game. If I miss out on a major bandwagon, I can jump on board a week later, leaving it until the following Friday and pay just 0.1 more or even the same price as those who beat me to the punch. Last season, in that scenario, I might have felt pushed into spending points or making my transfer early in the following week or risk paying 0.2 or 0.3 more.

The rewards for getting the right player at the right time aren’t reduced – those who make the right call, still get the points. However, the penalties for missing out have diminished. It’s not that the hardcore, hands-on manager is being punished, more that the casual manager can now relax, dip into the game every Friday and not get the impression that they are at a disadvantage.

The “hardcore” manager can object to this change but, realistically, we can’t expect the move to be reversed if it’s seen to broaden the appeal of the game. We just have to accept it and play what’s in front of us, relying on our ability swoop for big hauls and leave others chasing points. We also have to remember that the FPL have kept the system behind the player prices to themselves for this very reason – they reserved the right to change the way it worked and tweak the balance – it’s not in the rules so we have no guarantees.

On another note, I find it interesting that there’s a section of Fantasy managers that are missing this aspect of the FPL and the task of tracking market forces. Fantasy games often baulk at the idea of using stat-driven scoring matrix for fear of adding too much complexity. And yet, from the reaction to this recent change, a good deal of us enjoy the process of monitoring and playing a mechanic that is unexplained and revealed only by the use of third-party tools. We can’t deny that the art of player the FPL market was and still is a dark art – a hardcore pursuit. Seemingly, however, it’s something we’ll be left hankering for.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Kerz
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Wow, spectacular captain panic today. What a lottery the choice is this week.

    1. tw
      12 years, 1 month ago

      been like that all season so far more or less

    2. S.Kuqi
      12 years, 1 month ago

      No it isnt. Pretty straightforward imo.

      1. Kerz
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Costa or Sterling? 😀

      2. tw
        12 years, 1 month ago

        who are you captaining then?

    3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Hazard & aguero are the two smart picks 😉

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Form is temp class is perm

        2. Twisted Saltergater
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Gah! Not a member this year... Hopefully that table is showing Hazard's poor stats 😉

          1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            12 years, 1 month ago

            It is.

            1. Twisted Saltergater
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              12 years, 1 month ago

              Cheers Doos, thought as much

  2. Defcons are for Kinnear
    12 years, 1 month ago

    In other words we won't have the advantage of higher TV. Its just a lottery of picking the right players. I wonder how many casuals will continue playing because of the price system. Like Mark said, they don't even pay attention to it 😡

    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Yes, exactly this. We can now pick players based on potential points won rather than having the pressure of building TV by picking last week's bandwagon. In theory, teams should become less template.

      Great article and reasoning, Mark.

      That said, there is something about having a great TV than mini-league rivals 😉

    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      12 years, 1 month ago

      The counter-intuitive thing is... I have 1.8m team value after 3 GW's.... At that rate 110m is still easily doable. Admittedly i'm at 118k rank, but doing well in most mini leagues. I did WC in GW2 tho.

  3. Mumm-Ra
    12 years, 1 month ago

    First post of the season peeps. Allo again! What do you think of this
    Mannone
    Zabaleta koscielny Louvren
    Sigurdson Hazard Sterling Ramsey
    Rooney(c) Costa Gayle

    Gayle is my differential this week. Warnock loves him and their next few games are not too bad

  4. Dušan Citizen
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Rooney C and Sterling VC 🙂

    Pomozi Boze!!!

    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Reverse for me

    2. Jebiga
      12 years, 1 month ago

      On wc. Crazy to go without rambo ? Think its not

      Curtois
      Moreno, clyne, wilson, duff, hutton
      Di maria, fabregas, sterling, siggurdson, boyd
      Diego costa, aguero, welbeck

      Ubacicu rooneya umesto aguera samo ovo kolo 🙂

      1. Dušan Citizen
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Stavi Moore umesto Huttona zbog sledecih tekmi 😀 I ne kreci bez Aguera 😀

  5. YuvalSpurs
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Repost:

    1) Jovetic > Pelle (-4)
    2) Jovetic> Welbeck (-4)
    3) Keep Jovetic on the bench and start Wisdom ( 3-4-3 >> 4-4-2)

    What the best option?

  6. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Duff, wisdom, or moore to replace dummet? Already have hutton...

    1. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Has to be that wonderful Duff.

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah thanks... Duff was first choice... Shirley keane will have to wait for his chance rather than slot straight in... Considering duff got burnley promoted etc. thanks!

  7. Rupert The Horse
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Morning all.
    What do we think?
    Courtois and PVA or
    Mannone and Azpi

  8. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Last minute Wildcard...

    1. tw
      12 years, 1 month ago

      😯

      12 years, 1 month ago

      😯 no?!

    2. Brian (Not the Messiah)
      12 years, 1 month ago

      This isn't going to end well! 😆

    3. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      😯 No!

    4. Jebiga
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Copy paste
      Curtois
      Moreno, clyne, wilson, duff, hutton
      Di maria, fabregas, sterling, siggurdson, boyd
      Diego costa, aguero, welbeck

  9. Plymouth
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Currently on Sterling(C), but heard some whispering about a possible rest for him today? Is this legit?

    1. Davido989
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Wouldn't be surprised but at the same time it's surprising 😉

      1. Plymouth
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Agreed

    2. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Just theories being banded about.

    3. fitzy
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Just people thinking that with the CL and two internationals combined with a easy fixture they will let him off today. Nothing reliable.

    4. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Doubt it with Sturridge out, unless Rodgers dosen't want to win today

  10. Davido989
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Captain check?

    Balotelli here.

    1. tw
      12 years, 1 month ago

      currently on costa with sterling (vc) but that could be switched

      1. Davido989
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Was gonna go Costa myself but with Remy and CL game he could come off the bench

      2. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Same.

    2. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Costa, but i'm tempted by Aguero.

      1. Davido989
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Go Aguero! I fancy him to get a brace today

    3. The_Druid
      12 years, 1 month ago

      +1

    4. Breadbin
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Wilson.

      1. Davido989
        12 years, 1 month ago

        ba ba banter

    5. Demelbrush
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Sterls

      1. Davido989
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Raheem the dream

    6. drughi
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I'm in the same boat as you berbinho 🙂 hopefully its supermario that shows up tonight rather the crazy mario

    7. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Sterling.

    8. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      On Balotelli too, would you captain Aguero over him? Really torn!

    9. Fabreghastly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Balo

  11. Zizzou
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Just over 45 mins left and decided to flip a coin between Costa and Sterling then another between Sterling and Zaha...

    Zaha (C) see you at 3pm guys 😉

  12. NATSTER
    12 years, 1 month ago

    RMWCT please.

    Forster - McCarthy
    Ivanovic - Moreno - Clyne - Naylor - Moore
    Siggy - Sterling - Fabs - Ramsey - Di Maria
    Costa - Naismith - Welbeck

    Go with 5 strong MF. How is it?

    1. Messi & fabregas
      12 years, 1 month ago

      good team

    2. Demelbrush
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Great team.

    3. AriseSirGiggsy
      12 years, 1 month ago

      No City 8)

      1. NATSTER
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Agree. 2 FTs on the next two weeks to get one of them.

    4. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I don't much like your midfield. Sorry. Like all the rest apart from Moreno.

      1. NATSTER
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Lovren instead?
        I think Moreno might be rotated sometimes too. But got 0.1m rise in him.

  13. Demelbrush
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Play 1: moore, colo, duff?

    1. NATSTER
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Moore is the most likely for CS.

  14. fantasyfanatic2016
    12 years, 1 month ago

    A) De Gea and Wilson
    B) Bego and Azpi

    Best pairing for the next 6 weeks...

    1. Demelbrush
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      A.

  15. ireland123
    12 years, 1 month ago

    What do we think
    A) Roatation pair of coliccini & PVA for long term
    B) just one 5m defender for long run

  16. DaveVak
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Hi,

    On WC. Not just for the short term.
    - Zaha or Mirallas ?
    - Welbeck or Pele ?
    - Van Aaanholt or Wilson (Stoke) ?

    Thanks,
    David

    1. Coaly
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Mww

    2. NATSTER
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Zaha, Welbeck, and PvA for me.

  17. AriseSirGiggsy
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Heart says Coleman but my head says Baines

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Heartache vs headache?

    2. Nabs Kebabs
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Baines all the way

      1. Nazz
        12 years, 1 month ago

        genius did u play ur wildcard because min was nearly the same as urs ??

  18. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Daft to play Moore over Caulker ❓

    1. Trading Bear
      12 years, 1 month ago

      no

    2. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Caulker will score, trust me.

      1. rickardinho
        12 years, 1 month ago

        i agree. united suck at defending set pieces. especially with jones out. they're a really short team with no big man to mark Caulker

    3. Demelbrush
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      That's a fair decision

    4. Fantasy Gold
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Sensible

    5. Notorious
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I'm doing exactly this. 😀

  19. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Bench one

    A Wilson
    B clyne

    1. Breadbin
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Bench someone else.

    2. Fantasy Gold
      12 years, 1 month ago

      A

  20. rickardinho
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Tadic captain. This will come off so nicely I feel 🙂

  21. Trading Bear
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Costa = 48% ownership

    If you own him but don't captain him, do you want him to score big?

    1. rickardinho
      12 years, 1 month ago

      yes of course

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      12 years, 1 month ago

      All depends on how well your captain does.

  22. rickardinho
    12 years, 1 month ago

    pff wilson obviously.

  23. jai1212
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Azpilicueta and Zaha
    Or
    Cahill/Terry and Arfield
    Or
    Ivanovic and Boyd

  24. Coaly
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Since the start of 2012, Chelsea and Swansea have met five times in the league, the last three of which Chelsea have won, but on only one of those occasions did they manage to score more than once.

    1. Breadbin
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Good points, I'd realised. Swansea have also become a better team this season.

    2. Trading Bear
      12 years, 1 month ago

      nice stat..I too see his being a lot closer / less goals..then the majority on here.

    3. Fabreghastly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      You are forgetting that Chelsea are a completely different team this year. Far more attacking

  25. Fantasy Gold
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Anybody know any teams that rotate well with Swansea and Leicester?

    Can't be Stoke.

    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      12 years, 1 month ago

      stoke

  26. kimoo
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Who to play ?

    Zaha

    Siggy

  27. Dr Dream
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Rooney stinking the place out...really should be on Balo(c) this week (-4)....Roll on next week....

    1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      +42. 🙂

  28. Burd Turglars
    12 years, 1 month ago

    What is the consensus on Ramsey here? What colour bib did he have

    1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
      12 years, 1 month ago

      😆 Ramsey will play.

      1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
        12 years, 1 month ago

        no need to worry about Ramsey. Wenger always says "If a player thinks they're good to go, then you have to trust them". Ramsey said he was good to go. Also Wenger doesn't have a deep enough squad to leave out his star player for such a big game. Ramsey may come off after 60 mins, but I see him starting forsure.

        1. Burd Turglars
          12 years, 1 month ago

          thx

    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      12 years, 1 month ago

      lol

      1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
        12 years, 1 month ago

        For when strawpolls are banned 😉

  29. Fudgemeister
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Team for today :

    Krul

    Chester Terry Pieters

    Mirallas Siggy Eriksen Sterling

    Balo (C) Costa (vc) Rooney