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It’d be fair to say that when the pre-season player lists were revealed last July, Stewart Downing was far from our thoughts as a viable Fantasy option. A goal and two assists over 2,507 minutes in 2013/14 highlights his lack of impact in a West Ham outfit that scored just 40 times over the entire campaign, and despite reports suggesting Sam Allardyce’s side were set to go on the attack this time around, we were anything but convinced.

After five Gameweeks, though, the Hammers are starting to deliver. A 3-1 win over Liverpool means they have now scored nine times so far – averaging of 1.8 goals per match compared to last year’s 1.05 – and, from a Fantasy perspective at least, Downing has been the player to benefit most. A total of 27 points is just six off the top of the midfield standings in the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) game and sees the 5.5-priced Downing sandwiched in between Aaron Ramsey and Eden Hazard, on 28 and 25 points respectively.

With a goal, two assists and six bonus points accrued, Downing’s prospects could be boosted further by a switch in formation which afforded him the role in “the hole” behind Enner Valencia last weekend.

In our next members article of the week, we turn to the Key Performance Indicators (KPI) tables in order to assess the 2%-owned Downing’s displays in comparison to the season gone by.

For those who aren’t familiar with them, KPI tables are designed to use a series of key stats to allow our members to track form or changes in player performance. By tracking the frequency of certain key statistics and comparing them over two separate periods of time, we can ascertain whether a player’s form has improved or declined. As mentioned in last summer’s introductory article, we’ve rolled out a preview movie which shows just how to get the best out of the KPI tables.

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  1. mutatedllama
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Forest looking any good?

    1. The Sarjeant
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Hit the post.

    2. rickardinho
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Better than spurs. Unlucky not to have scored the goal of the round, of the underside of the bar from a cracking shot after a great run.

      Spurs haven't had a single shot on target yet

      1. aaroneous
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Which isn't to say they haven't threatened. They just can't bloody shoot... it's painful

  2. Andy1
    12 years, 1 month ago

    I am going on holiday tomorrow so need to sort my team out for this week, My current team is

    Begovic krul
    Terry dier clyne pva wisdom
    Sterling fabregas Ramsey siggy Marney
    Rooney Costa naismith

    With 1.6m in the bank

    Which is best?

    A. Dier --> chambers
    B. Dier --> duff
    C. Dier --> baines
    D. Naismith --> welbeck
    E. Dier & naismith --> chambers/duff & pelle
    F. Sterling --> adm

    1. mdm
      12 years, 1 month ago

      E

      1. Andy1
        12 years, 1 month ago

        E is for a 4 point hit

        1. mdm
          12 years, 1 month ago

          D then, or only Naismith -> Pelle

          1. Andy1
            12 years, 1 month ago

            I can't afford naismith to pelle

    2. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      E with Welbeck possible?

      1. Andy1
        12 years, 1 month ago

        E is a 4 point hit.
        Is welbeck a better option than pelle over the next 5 weeks though...

        1. mdm
          12 years, 1 month ago

          no

          1. Andy1
            12 years, 1 month ago

            That's what I thought

    3. mojoindojo
      12 years, 1 month ago

      D

    4. jimski
      12 years, 1 month ago

      D

  3. Pasqualinho
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Funnily enough, I was plugging Downing in to the comparison tool earlier today. He compares favourably vs the likes of Tadic etc. I don't believe he's really a better option, though.

    1. Dr Dream
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I've been flagging him for a couple of weeks...he's a good pick...

      1. Pasqualinho
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Looks like it. I was quite surprised as I thought his day had gone post-Villa. His Liverpool stint turned him in to a bit of a fantasy no-go area.

        1. Dr Dream
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Downing with Henner Valencia in front of him looks so good...Total turn around of style at Wham...

          1. 42 Rules
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Agreed, a lot more fluid which can only get better. Maybe not this week for me, but a definite improvement on that Sidwell that is residing in my team!

    2. rickardinho
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Downing has the better fixture this weekend though out of him and Tadic...

      1. Dr Dream
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Yep...should be a breeze...

      2. Pasqualinho
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Ha - yes. West Ham v QPR the week after as well.

  4. Walsh
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Riviere goal. Hangeland is rubbish.

  5. RooneyforLife
    12 years, 1 month ago

    On Wildcard ,RMT and suggest changes if any 🙂

    Mannone heaton
    Clyne chambers naylor duff moore
    Dimaria , sterling , cesc, siggy, downing
    Rooney pelle costa
    Cash in hand : 1.3m

    Repost , last post of previous thread

    1. maglia rosa
      12 years, 1 month ago

      i replied on your last post but then the monitor article appeared on downing 😀

      1. RooneyforLife
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Ive downing since two weeks ,gifted me with 8 and 5 last gw 🙂 and he looked so much involved so thought i should keep him

        1. maglia rosa
          12 years, 1 month ago

          fair enough.....i did say my advice is usually atrocious 😉

    2. S.Kuqi
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Rooney -> Bojan

      Downing -> Coutinho

  6. Tony Yeboah
    12 years, 1 month ago

    hmmm....i think i prefer noble over downing....thoughts?

    1. Walsh
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Get a membership for thoughts.

      1. Jarvis
        12 years, 1 month ago

        lol'd

    2. Epic Fail
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Pens is always a good pro.

    3. Reeker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      But isn't it more exciting to own someone like Downing

  7. And we all have legs
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Can't believe how poor we are 🙁

    Gonna be a rout on Saturday at the goons.

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Guess I'll keep Ramsey & hope he's involved in the scoring.

      1. Ser Football 42
        12 years, 1 month ago

        hoping Welbeck hits a few home

    2. Wilshere Knowledge
      12 years, 1 month ago

      😀 Sounds like a plan! 😉

      1. And we all have legs
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Haha, I wouldn't worry about it fella 😉

        And yes, I'd keep Ramsey for sure. Got Welbeck myself and am expecting points.

    3. rickardinho
      12 years, 1 month ago

      £27m for goaldado looks pretty shocking. So much for a revival under Pochetino, if anything he looks even more invisible

      1. And we all have legs
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Don't think he's had a touch yet. I've just read a stat Spurs have hit the target once in 225 minutes!

      2. aaroneous
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Utterly worthless.

  8. the axolotl
    12 years, 1 month ago

    sorry but can't read this article in case i end up buying stuart downing. i'd never forgive myself

    1. 7shadesofsmoke
      12 years, 1 month ago

      so much this

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Check the stats then 🙂

      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        12 years, 1 month ago

        I'm scared ™

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Have a shave then 😀

      2. the axolotl
        12 years, 1 month ago

        i'm afraid. surely some anomaly...

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Stats are overrated for certain players.

  9. 7shadesofsmoke
    12 years, 1 month ago

    "MONITOR – STEWART DOWNING"

    Is this actually happening? 😆

    1. Konig Luther
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Buy him.. United and QPR in next 2

      1. Epic Fail
        12 years, 1 month ago

        I don't think he'll do that much against QPR.

          1. 7shadesofsmoke
            12 years, 1 month ago

            😀

    2. Epic Fail
      12 years, 1 month ago

      😀

    3. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      From the team that brought you Victor Moses...:)

    4. Mavric Marco
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Apparently so, wouldn't touch him with a long long stick!

      1. Epic Fail
        12 years, 1 month ago

        What would you touch him with?

        1. Mavric Marco
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Not even with Big Sam's 😀

          1. Ginkapo FPL
            12 years, 1 month ago

            But you would touch Big Sam;s long long stick. I see where this is going.

  10. Who Ate All Depays?
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Any advice on this team guys would be highly appreciated

    Krul
    Clyne / Wisdom / PVA
    Ramsey / ADM / Sterling / Fabregas
    Rooney / Costa / Naismith
    (Guzan / Naylor / Boyd / Moore)

    0 FT & 1.7m itb

    Thinking of doing Naismith -> Ulloa for a hit as he has decent enough fixtures till gw 13 and form on his side as well and more assured starter than the former

    1. johnbarnes
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Rooney>Falcao mate, look at your own pic

    2. A.T
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Do it next week for free

  11. Tiny Totti
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Hi gents. Hope your teams are shaping up well.

    Need your opinions. I currently have on 1 FT and am not sure what to do. Here are the options:

    A) Naismith + Cahill > Pelle + Taylor
    B) Naismith>Ulloa
    C) Bruce/Bartley/Caulker > Taylor

    Clearly my defense needs to be sorted. But really want pelle in cause of my mini league competitors. Considering the move cahill since he hasn't had great returns and shipping him out is the only way to get pelle in for naismith. Would that first option be crazy though?

    Any help would be appreciated

    1. A.T
      12 years, 1 month ago

      C

      1. Tiny Totti
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks

    2. johnbarnes
      12 years, 1 month ago

      C

      1. Tiny Totti
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks

  12. Ser Football 42
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Forster
    N. Taylor, Bertrand, Ivan
    Di Maria, Siggy, Fabregas, Sterling
    Welbeck, Costa, Pelle

    Kelly first sub

    Good to Go this week?
    Suggestions?

    1. Wave of Mutilation
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I hope you're good to go, since we have virtually identical teams. Your backline is better due to Ivan's presence, but I assume I have more funds for future flexibility.

      1. Wave of Mutilation
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Pelle (c) for me, if you're interested. ADM (c) over Costa paid off last week, so I'm feeling lucky.

        1. Ser Football 42
          12 years, 1 month ago

          I like it

  13. Debauchy
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Zouma again

    1. Debauchy
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Duh - replay

      1. Wilshere Knowledge
        12 years, 1 month ago

        😀 Wow!

      2. Beavis
        12 years, 1 month ago

        😆

      3. Epic Fail
        12 years, 1 month ago

        😀

      4. 7shadesofsmoke
        12 years, 1 month ago

        LOL

      5. megatronaldinho
        12 years, 1 month ago

        wud it be racist if i asked u if u wus irish? as a tony abbott nod

        1. Debauchy
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Lol - My Dad was Irish if that counts

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Only 1 tonight

      1. Debauchy
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah Yeah Yeah - dozed off on the couch - woke up as replay of the goal was on

    3. Mavric Marco
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Unlucky man 🙂

  14. Snooze ya lose
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Team for this w/e. 4 pt hit taken. Any critique?

    Foster (Krul)
    Shawx, clyne, wisdom (caulker, Hutton)
    Siggy, fabs, adm, sterling (Marney)
    Costa, pelle, Rooney

  15. Keno
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Naismith should start against Liverpool this weekend?

    1. A.T
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Yes

    2. Who Ate All Depays?
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I doubt....I can see Lukaku and Eto'o starting up front

      1. Keno
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Naismith did not play at all yesterday and the others did which was why I figured he would

  16. LOCO ABREU
    12 years, 1 month ago

    In other news Loco Abreu scored.

    1. A.T
      12 years, 1 month ago

      First time?

      1. LOCO ABREU
        12 years, 1 month ago

        nah great career full of goals

  17. andres
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Got 2FTs, sell moreno, keep balo??

    Dont want kun. Any advice?

    Forster Mccarthy
    Pieters clyne moreno (moore naylor)
    Adm fabs sterling siggy (boyd)
    BALO costa pelle
    2FT, 1.2

    1. 7shadesofsmoke
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Moreno -> Wisdom or Duff
      Balo -> Aguero

      ?

      I'm toying with similar moves myself.

    2. A.T
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Sell both

  18. Deece
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Evening gents

    A) Tadic
    B) Ramsey

    Currently own tadic with the cash to switch to Rambo. No other Sot / Gooner coverage. Rest of mini league have either Welbeck or Rambo and North London Derby is always a goalfest. On the other hand sot should score a few at home to QPR. All thoughts welcome. Cheers

    1. rickardinho
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I have both. Think both will do well in the next few weeks barring gw7

    2. S.Kuqi
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Tadic.

    3. Messi & fabregas
      12 years, 1 month ago

      tadic for qpr then ramsey he plays for a better team that create a lot

    4. johnbarnes
      12 years, 1 month ago

      rambo and pellé

      1. johnbarnes
        12 years, 1 month ago

        which actually makes sense because Stallone and Pelé were both in John Huston's "Victory" in 1981.

    5. Deece
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Thanks for the replies. Sticking with Tadic also gives me the advantage of 2 FT going into the next GW. I definitely want Ramsey back in a couple of weeks but will stick with Tadic for now

    6. JWF
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I'd keep Tadic. I'm thinking about losing Ramsey

  19. Sadio
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Stats are great, but he plays for West Ham. Rules him out as a prospect for me.

    1. aaroneous
      12 years, 1 month ago

      West Ham have looked really good so far, offensively at least. 2nd in GF only to Chelsea. They dominated Spurs in open play, beat Liverpool and Palace pretty handily, and only suffered the 1 loss to a very good Southampton.

  20. Messi & fabregas
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Wildcard team! Please your thoughts

    Forster, Schmeichell

    Baines, Chambers, Bertrand, Duff, Naylor or Wilson

    Fabregas, Siggy, Sterling, ADM, Ramsey

    Costa, Welbeck, Ulloa

    0,5 in the bank

    1. S.Kuqi
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Too light front3 altough you are playing 3-5-2 most of the time.

      1. Messi & fabregas
        12 years, 1 month ago

        would u get falcao/ sturridge + boyd instead of ulloa + adm ?

        no other great striker options to be honest as kun is injury prone and rotation risk

        1. S.Kuqi
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Whatabout Ramsey -> Boyd and Ulloa-> Falcao?

      2. Ser Football 42
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Front three isnt too light Ulloa has been playing well

        1. S.Kuqi
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Let me put it this way. Lack of captain options when having front 3 like that. Would you captain Ulloa rather than Aguero/Sturridge?

  21. kirwy
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Should I do this -4 transfer deal:

    OUT: Mata, Jelavic, Ramsey
    IN: Di Maria, Ulloa, Tadic

    1. Messi & fabregas
      12 years, 1 month ago

      cant u do the first 2? keep ramsey

      1. RamaJama
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        12 years, 1 month ago

        This

      2. kirwy
        12 years, 1 month ago

        The alternative is to do dump Moreno for a max 4.7 def

        1. Andy1
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Chambers

          1. kirwy
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Already have him...

    2. Epic Fail
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Nah. Only Mata out if you can.

    3. A.T
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I'd keep Ramsey

      1. kirwy
        12 years, 1 month ago

        I have to do Ramsey>Tadic to free up some cash 🙁

    4. Konig Luther
      12 years, 1 month ago

      i'm not sure about last one (Ramsey - > Tadic)

      1. kirwy
        12 years, 1 month ago

        I have to do Ramsey>Tadic to free up some cash 🙁

        1. Konig Luther
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Jelavic to Vardy maybe

          1. kirwy
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Yup. Can get Di Maria + Vardy for Mata + Jelly. But I wanna get Ulloa, haha

    5. Mavric Marco
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Mata out for sure, Keep Rambo IMO

  22. Dr Dream
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Sheesh...no idea when anybody would scoff at Downing this year...Kicks, corners, playing in the hole with Valencia in front of him..1 goal, 2 assists and 6BPS already....and all for 5.5...What's not to like ?

    1. Andy1
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Stop tempting me

    2. Wilshere Knowledge
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Him being shite.

      1. Dr Dream
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Have you actually watched them this year...He's/they are playing really well...At 5.5 you can pick and choose the easier fixtures to play him in...Wham are going to do well in those.

        1. Wilshere Knowledge
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Short term form for a player isn't enough to sway me.

    3. S.Kuqi
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Lots of better options available. Wouldnt drop any of my mids for Downing.

    4. Mavric Marco
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Maybe in a 3-5-2 but as my 4th mid i just can't do it.

    5. the axolotl
      12 years, 1 month ago

      perhaps. might actually be a nice siggy downgrade for the fantasy desperado

    6. 7shadesofsmoke
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I know, but its Downing.

      It took me until Toure scored a hat trick to get on him last season and i ignored Rambo for the entire season.

      I am just far too stubborn

      1. Big_Andy_GAWA
        12 years, 1 month ago

        I have him in my Wildca rd teAm. He has a couple of nice fixtures. Worth a punt, IMO...

    7. Epic Fail
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Not good enough for a main mid, too expensive for a 5th mid.

      1. Dr Dream
        12 years, 1 month ago

        No he's not...not at 5.5...That's the whole point of him. Virtually no impact on your squad at all.

  23. LOCO ABREU
    12 years, 1 month ago

    riviere and tomas ince goals

  24. Ginkapo FPL
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Sod it, I've been considering Schurlle/Barton to Downing for a while. Feel sorry for non-members who have no idea what the result of this article is.

    1. Dr Dream
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Good man...now get Kranjcar as well...

      1. Ginkapo FPL
        12 years, 1 month ago

        I want Martin Petrov back.

        1. Big_Andy_GAWA
          12 years, 1 month ago

          He was good at one point! Was on pens, too! Then he began getting benched at times... 🙁

          1. Ginkapo FPL
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Captained him for the first of his double double. Ah those were the days.

    2. Pasqualinho
      12 years, 1 month ago

      The stats can be a bit misleading, though. But I'm not sure the 27 points in 5 games is a misleading stat - looks like quite a telling one.

  25. Az
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Next week... Rooney and ramsey to di maria and lukaku

    Lovely

  26. LOCO ABREU
    12 years, 1 month ago

    lampard goal

    1. Konig Luther
      12 years, 1 month ago

      again?

      1. LOCO ABREU
        12 years, 1 month ago

        1-0

        1. Konig Luther
          12 years, 1 month ago

          by again.. i mean since game vs chelsea goal... will start scoring for fun now

          1. LOCO ABREU
            12 years, 1 month ago

            yeah not sure if i was late ence my repost

    2. Mavric Marco
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Again
      😯

  27. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    12 years, 1 month ago

    lampard 😯

  28. DuckduckD
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Feel like getting rvp, someone talk me out of it. He's only played 90 minutes twice this season and he got a goal in one of them games. Surely he's back to full fitness now?

    1. LOCO ABREU
      12 years, 1 month ago

      overpriced imo

      1. DuckduckD
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Exactly what I was thinking but once on form he's one of very few strikers that can score 2 or 3 a game.

        1. LOCO ABREU
          12 years, 1 month ago

          falcao or rooney and save cash

    2. Mavric Marco
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Don't get RvP.

      Roo & Falcao better options for United.

    3. Wave of Mutilation
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Walk away. The striker situation at ManU is equivalent to a "running back by committee" construct in American football. The scoring will be spread across multiple strikers (not to mention a stable of active midfielders). Think of it this way - how many goals will RVP score if he sees his fair share (~1/3) of ManU scoring opportunities? Compare this number to the number of goals that will be scored by Pelle, Ade, Ulloa, etc. who are the primary targets for their teams AND a fraction of the cost of RVP.

  29. weeurquahrt
    12 years, 1 month ago

    hi guys
    ..is henderson to tadic worth a minus 4 this week /?

  30. Whazza
    12 years, 1 month ago

    New post so I'll have a go again, in case someone wants do discuss this idea:

    If I ran this site, I would make everyone pay to use it. It would be cheaper for those who don't want to access the member features, but I still think everyone who uses it regularly should pay something, since it's such a great site!

    By making everybody pay, I would probably get rid off thousands of people that only come on here a few minutes a week to get free advice, articles, scout picks etc. without contributing in any way. I'm not saying I contribute a lot, but at least I pay membership and try to help people on here.

    Good or crazy idea? I think this could lead to a better site with higher standards.

    1. Epic Fail
      12 years, 1 month ago

      It would stop new people signing up in the first place.

      1. Whazza
        12 years, 1 month ago

        True, wouldn't bother me though. Still a lot of people and I would know they are somewhat interested and not only taking advantage of the site being free.

    2. MARVELLUS
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Good idea.

      1. Whazza
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks Marvellus.

    3. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Not a great idea.

      1. Whazza
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Care to explain why?