As we brace ourselves for the second international break of the season, our Sunday members regular delves into the Gameweek 7 data. United’s record signing, City’s in-form frontman and Swansea’s resurgent striker are amongst this evening’s topics, as we also analyse the recent displays of a number of favourably priced midfielders across the last few Gameweeks.
Moreno > Baines
A- Tonight
B- wait after international matchs
Always B unless budget is a massive factor.
Weight.
I'm pulling the trigger tonight
Can someone look at this for me?
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/8-2014/matches/755368/player-stats/46497/OVERALL_02#tabs-wrapper-anchor
Tell me how someone who is putting that many balls into a penalty area, is no essential...Is he the most prolific?
From the mid's I've looked at, he is definitely up there as one of the best.
I wonder who the others are.
The only argument I have is he's played against some awful defences so far.
Currently worrying over whether he's better going forwards than my current two of Silva and Fabregas personally.
How many were successful? He may as well be a downing or a jarvis.
Except he's actually an incredible legit world class player unlike them
Yawn. 5 shots inside the box three goals! Under top class conversion rates he should only have one goal so far and of his 3 assists so far all have come from incredibly poorly struck/shanked shots.
Class player but seriously lucky to get fpl returns. Silva is auh better prospect long term.Unless adm seriously ups his stats that is*
Me confused
I cant understnd how the average score of the top 10k is 58..4
Yet i scored 59 (above the average) but ent from apx 2600 to 3600. How does that work?
quite a big drop no hitsThat's last GWs top 10K. Some dropped out of it now. New top 10K average this week a lot higher.
The average of the top 3500 might be higher than the other 6500.
Does seem improbable.
Its obviously bunched in there. Did the top 1k score consistently badly and drag the average down?
The average of the top 5K must have been much higher than the average of the 2nd 5k.
top 10k
GW7 Average Score 51.5 58.4
its this weekIt's still GW6's top 10K.
See TM's response.
Nope.
Must have been significantly higher in the top 3/4k
Just keep outscoring the top 10k and you'll do fine this season
must be some others here who scored 59 how did you go?
67 OR increase from 9k to 5k
Dropped out of top 10k to 12k.
Im sconfused so last weeks top 10k averaged 58.4 this week?
yes
Yes
the 10k sample from when the GW starts not after any games. It is very tight couple of points separates thousands
Yes. This weeks obviously higher. Smarty Pants uses last weeks top 10K IDs for that average.
Simply average the 50 on page 72 in overall and you'll see it's 60 plus.
Red arrow with 60
thx Pepin , guess last weeks 10 k have been smaped by all the de gae owners
Yeah, must have been an influx of people of 70+ scores overtaking...
I think ADM is the biggest swing.
From 68,469 to 68,326 with 59 points.
cheers, it always tougher at the top , its why its so hard to stay there
This season seems so much more bunched than usual too, wrong capt choice could cost 50,000 places, it scary
Gargatron says I'm 23 points behind top 10k and 17 points ahead of top 200k..
59 is the real average at 70K.
59 dropped me 2.5k places and i was inside the top 50k.
57.5 is for the average for 50K 😀
64 and moved up 55k to 120K
Because the average of the top 3600 will undoubtedly be higher than the average of the top 10k
Bit late to the party!
I have the exact money for Blackett -> Bertrand.
I'm happy with my front 7, so this a transfer that I would like to do. I have no Saints GK or defenders.
Bertrand looks like rising. Don't like such an early transfer in the international break.
Do it? Thanks.
No
I would do it, just sometimes i regret not having waited
Fair enough. Any other suggestions for a defender for 5.2m? Rest are Foster/4m. Wilson, Taylor, Hutton, Shackell.
Risky. But I've done a move too already.
I would.
Speaking too soon maybe but...
I don't usually get injuries over intnl's
I did my transfer already.
Are you sure Bertie will rise??Over 100% on Fiso, I know that's not fully accurate yet but it looks like it will happen soon, if not tonight.
What you think about Alderweireld?
Good option too, it's just the FBs are so attacking under Koeman.
Is Bertrand playing for Englands U21?
I guess not since he's 25.
I say get him now.lol cheers
Thanks for the replies gents 🙂
Yep do it Blackett is pointless
don't know why so many are getting rid of Sterling.
is in the top mids in terms of points and has not been playing at the top of his game. Sturridge is back and that WBA win should give Pool some confidence and they have a good run of fixtures.
shhh, please let as many people as possible dump him 😉
true.....;)
sturridge being back will get him back into double figure halls
yep. he has scored so well so far and hasn't hit top gear and neither have Pool....
I am happy for people to sell him though as they will be punished.
Haha,
Sell Sterling...
Before Sturridge returns...
And they play QPR...
I see 5+ goals going in.
To be fair QPR are marginally better at home.
Krul (LEI)
Clyne (SUN) Bertrand (SUN) Duff (WHM)
Hazard (cpl) Fab (cpl) Sterling (qpr) Di Maria (wba)
Costa (cpl) Welbeck (c) (HUL) Pelle (SUN)
Fixtures wise you can't get much better than that, looking forward to next week but have 6 players riding on Soton + Chelsea!
ADM could well be this seasons top scoring mid. I want him in, but how?
A) Haz out
B) Sterling out
C) Tadic+Ivan > ADM+Azpi -4
D) Replace Ulloa foolCan you tell me whether his assist today was credited as a Goal Attempt?
Dunno if it was credited. It surely was though
Surely was a goal attempt*
D
Makes the most sense but I'm not sold on any of the options, including Welbeck.
C
C
C for free would be the best
Thanks guys
Cheers guys...Yeah Larsson has been a flop for me for a while now. He is next out the door
Now obviously Kun is better than Dzeko and scored this week where Dzeko didn't. But I notice most of their underlying stats were the same this week (minutes per chance, shots in box, touches in penalty area). Is Kun truly worth 3.8 more than Dzeko?
For the fact that Aguero will play games where Dzeko won't, yes.
Mm, forgot about that.
he is.
Dzeko was pretty bad in the game and missed a sitter.
Aguero could have had hattie and is only getting back to 100% fitness.Good points, I didn't watch the match so I didn't know. Does Dzeko and Pelle to Kun and Chadli (plus a bench fodder swap) sound good?
Only thing that matters is goals scored and Kun has always been a consistent goal scorer. Kun is first choice while there's always a risk of Dzeko getting dropped for Jovetic. Unless Kun gets injured, he's worth the 3.8.
Their stats may be the same, but Aguero is simply a much better footballer. He'll take chances Dzeko can't.
How did Welbeck not get a straight red for that challenge? Ridiculous refereeing.
When he didn't send of Cahill he couldn't send of Welbeck either. Both red imo
Cahill, Koscielny, Chambers and Welbeck should not have been on the pitch end of the game.
Game was already wrapped up, he didn't want to increase the preasure. And he already forgave the same challenge to Cahill. Game didn't need that red and I think it was a good call.
Red card challenge is a red card regardless, Welbeck should be serving a ban for that.
Agree with what you replied to Royal5, but it would've been unfair if only Welbz got the red. That's why I say it was a good call. Same criteria. Rubish but same.
Tadic -> Fab or ADM?
I don't have either 🙁ADM
Has to be ADM
Eriksen survives for another couple of weeks in my team?
What are we doing about GKs? They're all rubbishOwning Begovic has been frustrating this season. When I think of dropping him, Stoke gets a CS. I think I'm going to keep him until GW12, then look for other options.
Did anyone see the SOT-TOT game? How did tadic play today?
Didn't notice him.
I only saw 5 minutes of it, didnt notice him. Southampton had a free kick , and i thought lets see tdic in action , but Mane took it
I am just starting the highlights of this one
let me know how it goes...
One of these days Krul will get a clean sheet. Maybe next week?
For 'olland 😉
He's on the bench next week.
Aaaargh! Next gameweek you know what I mean!
gosh.
Lawro smashed it this GW
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/29435443He's saying same results week after week. This was gonna happen eventually.
Feels weird having red arrows when capt goes ok and seven of front eight are in the points. Everyones teams so flippin similar
I blame the price system, only a couple of players rising each week and everyone wants in, plus they all sell the same player who is going to dropI agree. Bring back last year's price system!
Agreed. You can buy anyone at anytime and that doesn't seem right. Usually i'm 0.1 short etc but not this season.
There are too many players with high ownership this season. Already can see the scores in the gameweeks become more similar due to high amount of duplicates. Costa with 66% ownership and captained by many people this week - too much
front 8 has become very template
Ah now Trigger. You're long enough at this to avoid such pitfalls. There'll be a Wall Street sell sell sell of Ulloa and lose another to trade up on Wellbeck cos he scored a hatty in CL. Sheep always baaa together.
It's rather boring ATM. Just going through the motions right now ...
Agreed.
Teams becoming so so similar and those picks are being very consistent. The average was pretty high this week.
Fantasy getting boring already this year!
Forster
Ivan - Moreno - Naylor
ADM - Fab - Siggy - Sterling
Costa - Welbeck - Balotelli
Elliot, Chambers, Boyd, Hutton
2FTs
A) Balotelli > Pelle, Moreno > Baines
B) Balotelli > Aguero, Ivan > Azpi, Moreno > 4.5?A looks good
Cheers,
Just watching MOTD 2. Oviedo did look good after he came on didn't he a neat throughball for Baines and forced a great save from DDG. Not bad for 4.9 def with good fixtures. I wonder if he will play?
How long do you think Pienaar will be sidelined?
No idea. But I will watch over the international break as there is no rush
I remember having him last year, where he had one amazing week for me! Then broke his leg and dropped before I could sell him and swiftly became one of the cheapest players in the game so he was rooted to my bench.
Leg break isn't likely to happen again though is it? It's not like som injuries which people get prone to
Probably not. I'm worried about doubling up on him and Baines with how much they concede. But those attacking threats!
Well I cannot afford Baines with the rest of my team and he happens to just fit into my budget. Will wait and see
Only played last year because Coleman was injured right? Or was he OOP? Remember him being fantasy gold for a very brief moment
I think OOP
Let's not bang the drum. Need to see what's what - ideally he'd be OOP, but with Stones out could be reshuffle in defence.
Nah justy saying as I was just watching the highlights. Prob won't play tbh. It takes a long time to properly recover from that one
So I feel like I should get ADM in, mainly due to peer pressure, but I honestly think he's had it easy so far.
It would mean dropping one of Silva or Fabregas?
Thoughts muchly appreciated.I think ARS and CHE will tell us how good he is in that MUN team. Tempted but will wait...
Not the time to drop Silva. Has been superb last two - will get better returns soon IMO. Fab is solid. All three?
All three just isn't affordable without a wildcard unfortunately. Even then I think I'd prefer Aguero if it came to that. I agree on Silva, it's tempting to drop Fabregas but he hasn't really given me a reason to.
Has been in real life, not for fpl.
Inches away from real performances translating to FPL though (from watching the games), that allied with good fixtures is why he was my Ramsey replacement.
I think leave until the tricky games coming up have gone. Ignore peer pressure it is your opinion which matters
A fair point. It's his ownership that worries me, hurt me badly today, dropping out of the top 1k - I'd imagine most guys in that bracket have him!
Personally I don't think now is the time to get him.
If you do drop one I'd drop Fabregas if you're chasing and Silva if you're winningSilva imo.
I was first planning on PVA>Baines but now seeing Terry is 100% to lose another 0.1m. I guess just ride it out?
Sakho Sakho
My keepers are currently Mannone and Pants. Sunderland's upcoming fixtures are horrendous. Thoughts on who I should ditch Pants for (4.5 or less)?
Guzan if ure still switching keepers. Id just keep if i had him. Mannkne's saves points are gonna save you 😀
I guess so. Not too many good options out there. Mannone might just be a season keeper methinks
Foster
This
Have a look at Villas goal concede and upcoming 6-7 matches barring saints and Spurs
Remember how 3-5-2 was very popular at the start of the season? I dismissed it at the time and it appears to have faded as a strategy since then. But 3-5-2 is now how I'm intending to break out of the template.
Never works
Looked at the the overall dream team lately? I'll give you one guess as to what formation it is.
With many inform strikers out there, surely 3-4-3 might still be the flavor of the week?
How many in form midfielders are there? Strikers aren't consistent anyway outside the best of the best. Case in point is Pelle blanking while Fletcher came from nowhere to hit 15.
I've had 3-5-2 from the start
Always difficult to predict defenders pts..Bombing forward but arranged by touches in the box this week...Second place remains in second place after his showing this week..Great pick.
http://members.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/my-stats-tables/view/3832/Have two free transfers and was looking at getting baines in. However i dont think it is possible to sell any of the front 8 agreed
Fab Sterling ADM Siggi Boyd
Aguero Welbeck Coasta
Its impossible to sell any of these i think, know i would regret it and wouldnt have a clue which one to take outFor sure. I think every one of them has the potential to outscore Baines over the course of the next few weeks, it'd be a mighty gamble.
the problem with selling adm or fab is i got them both cheap, so selling and buying back not an option either
Only possible way to get baines is
moreno and clyne out
Baines and a 4 in
i just dont see its worth it,Nope
No you can't sell any of those
Baines + Ivan + Aguero
vs
Azpi + 4.5 + Pelle
is what is comes down to for me
Fab to Chadli could work out, then again it's very risky of course.
I am in the same boat as you
Want to get baines but dont want to sell front 8
I am leaning towards selling fabs and getting in baines + 7.5 Mid
fabs is giving assist every game.. i am sure you can find a 7.5 mid like fabs... tadic ?You could find one who plays similarly, but I think in terms of returns you won't be able to match Fab. It's why Silva is prices at 9m, in seasons gone by he's similarly just quietly ticked along with an assist every week. Chelsea also have much better players to take the chances Fabregas creates.
Fab would be my choice, Chadli in after City
Fabs at home to QPR in three weeks , could be a bloodbath
It's very risky, but Baines + Chadli will net more Gw9 onward than any of your current defenders + Fab.
If it comes down to Moreno + Fab vs Baines + Chadli, I'd pick the latter any day.
Two very good goal scoring prospects on on side, vs two players who might get net an assist per game
Fab to Chadli maybe... Almost did that myself on WC but missed the deadline lol. Would've been better off
Exactly the same problem, thinking of Fab > Chadli or Tadic, but like you said would probably regret it, is Baines worth sacrificing Fab for ? Would all depend if that lower priced mid can perform how they've started.
I was dead set on adm to tadic to enable baines but now i think sterling perhaps should go. He's looked a little out of sorts the last two. Hendo gives liverpool cover and with surprisingly good underlying stats or tadic still an option.
Sterling to Henderson
and upgrade defender to baines
thats sounds like a good idea
how likely henderson is to outperform sterling next 5 GW's ?Not likely and doesnt have to. But to date has been close.
See below please...reply fail
much wiser guys than i have agreed with you on this but my two penneth worth as ive got the exact same issue is sterling to chadli to get baines is about the best ya can do, chadli seems to be consistent enough coming in which leaves the question mark over sturridge returning and whether sterling will benefit enough from the england no 9's return to make that move worth it or not.....tuff one for sure
Which of these look more fruitful fellas?
1)
Guzan (Gilks)
Baines | Clyne | Ivan | (Chambers , Wisdom)
Sterling | Hazard | AdM | Siggy | (Marney)
Costa | Italian Pele | Dat Guy
2)
Bego (Gilks)
Baines | Clyne | Chambers | (Duff ,Wisdom )
Sterling | Chadli | AdM | Siggy | (Marney)
Costa | The Kun | Dat Guy1
2 even though 1 is very similar to my team
I prefer 1st one and only thing I prefer in team 2 is you have an extra captain choice up front.
True, though Pelle plus Ivan could thwart the odd Kun brace (C)
Whos Dat guy?
Daniel Nii Tackie Mensah Welbeck.
Welbeck but don't know why.
Seems lame to me saying it instead of just using his name. There was another one last year or year before where people thought they were cool saying 'Bob' (or something like that) instead of Cisse (think it was him anyway)...
Naismith worth keeping? Fixtures look good now.
I'm having the same problem with getting Baines in. Although today has slightly turned me off of him....for one he missed, but more importantly he allowed DeGea to get 5 extra points for my H2H rival and I lost by 3!
I'm wondering what your take on a Liverpool D is for the next 3 weeks. QPR, Hull and Newcastle. Surely they will have to start getting CS's.Thats the only reasoon im keeping Moreno
If it wasnt for a last gasp wonderstrile versus everton , and a penalty that wasnt , his last two scores would of been 8 and 6
Very annoyingSo you think there's value now in a Liverpool D? It will allow me to upgrade in other areas not taking Baines .
So I've slapped on some lipstick, the high hooves are on, I've just lit the candles and mane couldn't be prettier. Ladies and gents, I'm about to lose my Leighton Baines virginity. But who goes?
-Duff could come good again, and bizarrely has 5 home games in the next 7.
-Andre Wisdom has some pretty tricky fixtures coming up but still remains good value.
-Wilson has some fairly useful home games coming up.You can put lipstick on a pig...
Wilson all day
