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16 January 2015 2780 comments
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This evening we reach Gameweek 22 of this season’s Scout Picks, where Mark, Jonty, a different member of the community and I pick an XI for the upcoming round of fixtures. Each week, our line-ups go head-to-head and over the course of the season we’ll be keeping a tally of the points as we go along, with the budget now sitting at 84.0 apiece for our starting line-ups.

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gw22picks West Ham’s Adrian looks a must against a Hull side short on confidence. Leighton Baines has looked better and better each week and I fancy a clean sheet for the Everton man when West Brom visit. Liverpool’s Martin Skrtel, meanwhile, offers good attacking threat, just in case Aston Villa muster a rare goal. Finding a secure starter in Chelsea’s back four is becoming an increasingly tricky task – thankfully, though, Branislav Ivanovic has escaped rotation so far.

In my midfield, Nacir Chadli will be fully refreshed after playing just 30 minutes in Spurs’ midweek FA Cup replay, meanwhile Stewart Downing has fixture and form on his side as does Alexis Sanchez – I expect goals when Arsenal vist Manchester City, with the midfielder sure to be involved. Eden Hazard is my Chelsea option this week. He still looked threatening last Gameweek even if he failed to deliver.

Up front, Sergio Aguero is a big match player and is key for the hosts in this must-win encounter for the title contenders. Harry Kane is now the first name on most team sheets on current form and finally Danny Ings’ nice home fixture against Crystal Palace makes him a must for my XI.

Jonty

gw22picks

Only Manchester United have less goal attempts over the last four Gameweeks than Sunderland, which propels Hugo Lloris into my side when the north east side visit White Hart Lane. Also in London, Aaron Cresswell offers similar clean sheet potential, when his West Ham side entertain a Hull side whose frontline is ravaged by injury. Newcastle have also been shot-shy in recent weeks and Southampton have been resolute at the back, which brings Ryan Bertrand into my thinking. Finally, in my defence I’ve turned to Rate My Team, which predicts strong returns from Leighton Baines this week.

In midfield, Cesc Fabregas is my default Chelsea option for potentially tricky road trips – so far, the Spaniard has been involved in just under a half of all the London side’s away goals. With four goals and seven assists this season, Stewart Downing looks primed for points this week, as does Nacer Chadli when Sunderland visit White Hart Lane; the Spurs midfielder has accrued 28 points in his last four matches. Alexis Sanchez is Fantasy Football’s current must-have asset and faces a Manchester City side that has conceded 10 times in the last six Gameweeks.

How can Harry Kane be dropped from my picks after scoring 39 points over the last four matches? When filtered to the last six Gameweeks Charlie Austin sits comfortably at the summit of my attacking players Members Table, which is sorted by shots in the box. This demands his inclusion for a home tie against an out of sorts Manchester United.

Finally, Sergio Aguero’s return sparked my wildcard and many others into life this week. With 14 goals in just 13 starts he looks irresistible against an Arsenal side with just one clean sheet in the last six Gameweeks.

Mark

gw22picks I’m guessing my Scout Picks rivals all went for Sergio Aguero and, after deliberation, I thought better of leaving him out of my XI. I have, once again, neglected Alexis Sanchez who will grace the same pitch on Sunday – despite being burned by the Chilean last weekend. For my sins, I’ve backed Raheem Sterling for Liverpool at Villa, hoping that he’s refreshed and roaring to run at a damaged back four.

Elsewhere, Harry Kane was a shoo-in and his inclusion meant I avoided the Nacer Chadli option in midfield, deciding on Stewart Downing and Jason Puncheon alongside Chelsea’s Eden Hazard. I was encouraged by Alan Pardew’s shoot on sight policy in the win over Spurs so I’m expecting goals at Turf Moor with Puncheon again providing the Palace menace.

In defence I’ve gone on the attack, with all three of my selections in there for their double-barrel appeal. I’m expecting at least some attacking returns from my trio of Martin Skrtel, Leighton Baines and Aaron Creswell, whilst in goal, Fraser Forster should be good for at least some save points as the best defence in the league pays visit to Newcastle.

Paul

gw22picks

West Ham’s Adrian is drafted in between the sticks at home to an injury-hit Hull side that have scored in two of the last seven Gameweeks. I’ve opted for a trio of attacking full-backs who have all been in the points recently – Leighton Baines and Branislav Ivanovic have two assists apiece in the last three, whilst Tottenham’s Danny Rose, at just 4.8, has scored in each of his last two home matches in all competitions.

Alexis Sanchez’s stunning form is sure to trouble a City defence that have conceded twice to Burnley and Sunderland in their last two at the Etihad, whilst Eden Hazard, with a goal in each of his last two away appearances, has finally found his form on the road. Both Nacer Chadli and Stewart Downing offer excellent mid-price coverage at just 6.5 apiece and look crucial to their side’s respective chances of home wins over Sunderland and Hull.

Up top, Sergio Aguero’s return to fitness earns him a place in my starting XI as City hope to replicate last season’s six-goal home haul against Arsenal. Harry Kane, with six goals in as many matches, is an obvious selection at home to the Black Cats, whilst the stats once again strengthen my belief in Charlie Austin – no player has been afforded more big chances in front of their own fans than the QPR forward, who looks in red-hot form as United roll up to Loftus Road.

The Scores So Far

Tony Hibbert (Community) won the Gameweek with 67 points, followed by myself (63) and Jonty (60), whilst Mark earned 57 points despite his decision to leave out who Alexis Sanchez.

Mark retains the overall lead with 1084 point, then, with myself (1080) and Jonty (1068) in hot pursuit, followed by The Community, on 979 points.

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  1. ronmadpirlo
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    It is my last day to seek advice on my starting line up. The only question is whether to bring Ivanovic into the starting line-up and if so who for?

    Forster
    Baines, Cresswell, Skrtel
    Sanchez, Silva, Downing, Hazard
    Austin, Costa, Kane

    Any advice much appreciated. Btw I'm happy to consider playing 4 at the back

    1. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Perfect...leave it..

      1. ronmadpirlo
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks. I just realised my post s ambiguous. I own Ivanovic already and he is on the bench. Sorry if that confused

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 17 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Ivanovic over Skrtel, for me.

          1. ronmadpirlo
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            Cheers

  2. Big Col
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Think I've finally decided on my WC defence and will leave 0.3itb to switch Skrtel to Azpli/Kos/Clyne after GW24

    Panti, Krul
    Skrtel, Bertrand, Jones, Hutton, Wasilewski

    alternative defence was Terry, Berty, Chester, Hutton, PVA, but not keen on cheap third defender or Chester

    any thoughts?

    1. davies
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Ship Hutton, imo. For Wisdom/Baird.

    2. ronmadpirlo
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Haven't looked at rotation but wouldn't want to play Jones or Skrtel in unfavourable fixtures

    3. KING KOUNDER
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Liverpool dont look solid and their fixs arent good too, cant see the idea behind Skrtel ?

  3. H.A.BRUCE
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Final WC Team

    Pantillimon (4m)
    Fonte Baines Cameron (PVA Baird)
    Hazard Sanchez Di Maria Chadli (Albrighton)
    Aguero Costa Kane

    Thoughts??

    1. deathorglory
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Yeah it's like all the other WCs this week. Solid.

      1. H.A.BRUCE
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks. Not sure about Cameron but 0 in the bank

    2. Delhidynamo
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Nice team.

      Baines to Terry and upgrade Albrighton to Boyd imo

      1. ronmadpirlo
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Baines is the only differential though

        1. Delhidynamo
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Too exp for a punt

          Do Baines to Terry and upgrade Cameron to Trippier then

          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 17 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            Baines on MNF, at home to West Brom. Could bring in Terry for GW24 after the Citeh game.

  4. MTPockets
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Any thoughts on albrighton? Trying to decide between Fonte/Albrighton or Gardos/Boyd.

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      He's short term. Blank in GW27 likely either way.

  5. deathorglory
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Bench:

    A) Downing
    B) Sterling
    C) Austin

    1. Mile Plankton - Myth and Ch…
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Damn.

    2. Mull
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      C.

    3. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      B.

      1. deathorglory
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Funny because my first thought was bench Downing. It's too close to call I think, so going with gut unless someone can provide a good argument otherwise 🙂

    4. ronmadpirlo
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      B

  6. Mile Plankton - Myth and Ch…
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Zabaleta -> ???

    1. Gooner97
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Baines

    2. The Nuttmxn
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Skrtel.

  7. davies
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Fabregas or Chadli? (Have Kane/Hazard)

    1. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Cesc

  8. Boss Hogg
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Play Foster or Green this week?

    1. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Green

  9. Delhidynamo
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    On all these reports of Schneiderlin to Arsenal

    Is the deal agreed for summer or winter window?

    1. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Summer if you believe them I think.

      1. Delhidynamo
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        I hope it goes thorough

        He will be a bigger signing than Ozil if you ask me. We've been craving a DMF since Viera

        1. Wilshere Knowledge
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Gilberto*

        2. The Nuttmxn
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Song was pretty solid.

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            *is

            😉

    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      it's not even official. My advice is not to believe anything the press try to feed you about arsenal transfers. It's mostly all lies.

      1. Delhidynamo
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        I know.. If it goes through I will have renewed hopes for this season

        Till he gets injured that is hahaha

        1. Wilshere Knowledge
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Funny how the interest starts when he gets injured.. 😆

          1. Delhidynamo
            • 11 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            I forgot about that lol

    3. chrisjdgrady
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      If true at all I think it would be summer. Makes no sense to strengthen a team that is in competition for top 4

  10. tm370
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Hi all, I would really like some advice if anyone can spare the time. I'm stuck between two wildcard options. The first is a team with Costa in:

    Panti, Heaton, Terry, Cameron, Bertrand, Wisdom, Wasilewski,
    Johnson, Sanchez, Chadli, Hazard, Downing,
    Costa, Kane and Aguero.

    The next team has a power midfield without Costa:
    Panti, Heaton, Terry, Cameron, Betrand, Wasilewski, Wisdom,
    Di Maria, Sanchez, Chadli, Hazard, Silva,
    Barnes, Kane and Aguero.

    Any advice would be much appreciated.

    1. MTPockets
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Having 5 power mids didn't work out great for me. Everyone's been saying 3-4-3 and that's probably right for now.

    2. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Having 2 of your front 7 (or 8) from Spurs could be a problem

    3. zuzuViking
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      A

      1. tm370
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks guys!

  11. Mull
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Why on earth is Austin in the scout picks? Surely Ings, Pelle or Rooney are more deserving of a spot in the eleven.

    1. Jimbo123
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I'm surprised about no Wooney

    2. Reedy
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I'd put any of those in ahead of him this week too.

      1. Mull
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        I could probably name 5/6 more as well.

        1. davies
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          G'waan, then...

          1. Mull
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            Lukaku, Costa and Carroll. I was exaggerating a bit.

    3. ronmadpirlo
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Home game. Ings may be better but disagree on the other 2. Rooney isn't 100% to play up front and QPR narrow pitch favours them. Pelle hasnt been finishing too well.

  12. Toonzie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Good to Go?

    Foster - Hamer
    Terry - Bertrand - Wasilewski
    Hazard - ADM - Alexis - Chadli
    Aguero - Costa - Kane

    Bench: Hamer, Boyd, Pva, Baird

    1. Gazza2000
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Looking good, captain ?

      1. Toonzie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        on kane at the moment you?

        1. Gazza2000
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Kun

    2. Floyd the Barber
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Exact same front 7 as me, but I have a defence of:

      Clichy - Bertrand - Wisdom

      Bench: Myhill, Hutton, Siggy, Azpi

      Who to Captain though?!

  13. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    wanted to get rid of zaba 3 weeks ago......still got him

  14. Gazza2000
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Play Siggy or Boyd ?

    1. Gooner97
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      boyd

    2. Boss Hogg
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Boyd

    3. Toonzie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      boyd

    4. ronmadpirlo
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Siggy

    5. Gazza2000
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Cheers

  15. davies
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Fonte or Clyne? (0.1 difference)

    1. Boss Hogg
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Clune

      1. Boss Hogg
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Or Clyne even.

        Clune?
        Martin Clune?

    2. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Clyne IMO.

    3. Caesar, Hot Mustache
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Clyne.

      but I'll be going with Fonte on WC

    4. Toonzie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      clyne, potential attacking return when he goes up agaisnt big teams

    5. davies
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Thanks all.

  16. Koflok
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Sterling or Chadli for the next 2?

    1. Boss Hogg
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Sterling

    2. Gazza2000
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Chadli

    3. TorresMagic™
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Chadli. I have Sterling.

    4. Koflok
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Thanks fellas

  17. Caesar, Hot Mustache
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    posted on old article

    (c) ??

    Hazard
    Aguero

    1. Boss Hogg
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Aguero.

  18. Boss Hogg
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Bench one of this lot:

    Sanchez, hazard, downing, Chadli, silva
    Austin, Costa, kane

    1. Reedy
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Austin

    2. ronmadpirlo
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Chadli

  19. andres
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    I have Mark's exact dilema... Get aguero or upgrade defence...

    A aguero, hutton
    B austin, terry/cresswel

    Wc after this GW

    1. Captain Beefheart
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      A

  20. Kevin Twine
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Siggy -> Chadli for the next 2 gameweek's or rollover the FT?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Same decision here, not sure.

      1. Kevin Twine
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Ballache isn't it. I'm not convinced by Chadli but I also can't see Siggy getting anything over the next 2.

    2. Gazza2000
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Chadli for the next two, I'm keeping Siggy on my WC though

      1. Kevin Twine
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Interesting. Why's that? Too much value locked in him? I brought him in GW2 but would only lose 0.4. I'm not too bothered about it tbh baring in mind he'll probably drop a bit over the next couple of weeks anyway

        1. Gazza2000
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          His underlying stats are still good, I think he will be a better pick for the long term

  21. stefankiknun
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Any comments on my wildcard team?

    Panti Heaton

    Bertrand Wasilewski Dummett Wisdom Hutton

    Sanchez Hazard Di María Downing Chadli

    Aguero Austin Kane

  22. Fpl Old Guard
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Defoe only £6 mill, bound to score against spurs then have you seen Sunderland fixtures!!!!

    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      a defoe coming from mls. Will he even be properly fit?

      1. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Fit, but not PL for. Give him a few weeks.

      2. Fpl Old Guard
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Been with his fitness coach in France - the same one he used when at Spurs during the Summer holidays

        1. Rupert The Horse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Doesn't matter

    2. Lallana_
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Might take him a while to get used to the pace of the premier league

    3. Toonzie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      defoe missed a huge chunk of the latter part of MLS

      i know cuz i play MLS fantasy

    4. Delhidynamo
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Haha I see more cramps than goals incoming too

  23. Point Magnets
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Who shall i go with for (c)?

    Heaton
    Bertrand Terry Wisdom
    Hazard Sanchez Di Maria Chadli
    Aguero Kane Giroud

    (Pantilimon, Boyd, Hutton, Van Aanolt )

    1. Point Magnets
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      currently have armband on Kane.

  24. Lallana_
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    The tough decisions I had to make this week:

    1) Bench Austin
    Attack is: Fabregas, Hazard, Sanchez, Downing, Chadli, Aguero, Kane

    2) Captain Kane over Aguero

    1. Point Magnets
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      i think u have made 2 sensible choices there ^

  25. McSauce
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    A) Clyne
    B) Bertrand
    C) Fonte

    1. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      A or c

    2. Point Magnets
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      B all day

  26. stefankiknun
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Bench:
    1) Di Maria
    2) Chadli
    3) Downing

    1. Boss Hogg
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Chadli.

  27. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    So, in the end, nearly everyone opted for the same front three as I did. Except Mark. Interesting.

    1. davies
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Doos, saw your post about your wildcard defenders.

      Was the Stoke defender Cameron?

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Yes. 🙂

    2. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      If you ever feel like having a tiny bit of spirits, Joy from Appleton gave me a bottle of 30yr. One of only 500 in existence.

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Well, you know what I mean! 😉

        The censors are out, tonight.

    3. The Nuttmxn
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      How did you not win? I actually voted this time!

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        I was thrashed, actually. Ings. Baines. Adrián over Lloris. I'll live. 🙂

        Thank you!

        1. The Nuttmxn
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          FIX!!!!!

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            😀

  28. PaulParker
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Wildcard and team for 2mo, GTG??

    Foster
    Wisdom - Clyne - Bertrand
    Chadli - Sanchez – Hazard – Fab
    Kun - Kane - Costa

    Myhill - Hutton - Wasilewski - Boyd

    Or put in ADM instead of fab??

  29. andres
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Is this aguero against tot all over again??

    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      no, he took a while to get up to speed last time

      remember everyone going nuts getting him in v stoke