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26 April 2015 2794 comments
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Although Sunday beckons in just two Premier League fixtures, there are plenty of points at stake as four sides rich in Fantasy talent do battle. Everton play host to Manchester United in the lunchtime kick off, with the Red Devils looking to cast aside their defeat to Chelsea and snap the Toffees’ five-match unbeaten streak. Arsenal’s home clash against the Blues caps headlines the weekend’s action, with Jose Mourinho’s men all but securing the Premier League crown in the event of an Emirates win.

Everton welcome United to Goodison Park in search of their fifth victory in six outings. Roberto Martinez’s side have been particularly resilient at Goodison in recent weeks and have served up five clean sheets in the last six in front of their own fans, as Leighton Baines and Seamus Coleman make a late scramble up the Fantasy standings. United are now enjoying goals from midfield, with Juan Mata (three in four), Marouane Fellaini (two in five) and Ander Herrera (two in three) all contributing to the cause.

The team news from Goodison is significant for both sides. Everton hand a start to striker Romelu Lukaku after he saw action as a substitute in the win over Burnley last time out. Leon Osman also returns to the teamsheet as Kevin Mirallas and Arouna Kone drop to the bench. As for United, they are able to welcome back Daley Blind to the midfield engine room, allowing Wayne Rooney to shift to the attack against his former club: Radamel Falcao makes way.

Sunday’s main event promises to be a tight affair that could become attritional; Arsenal and Chelsea have both conceded just seven goals in their previous 12 matches and it’s fair to say that Jose Mourinho’s side will be containing the Gunners threat as a first priority. Arsenal have recorded eight straight wins since a 2-1 loss to Tottenham Hotspur back in early February, with Olivier Giroud’s red-hot form (seven goals in as many starts) driving their success. With two goals and three assists in four league outings, Aaron Ramsey is showing glimpses of least season’s breakthrough star. Eden Hazard has delivered attacking returns in 13 of his last 17 appearances and promises to keep Arsenal occupied at the back.  

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  1. Lallana_
    11 years, 6 months ago

    A huge reason Utd got top 4 this year is because Liverpool lost Suarez and Sturridge was injured for most of the year. Moyes got a lot of criticism but to be fair he wasn't as bad as the media made him out to be. Moyes just lacks a big game mentality like Rodgers.

    1. Woeisme
      11 years, 6 months ago

      And it rained on Monday

    2. @ocprodigy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 6 months ago

      You want to talk about injuries? Should we rewind to the first 3 months of this season?

    3. sinik
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 6 months ago

      remember that time the entire United back line was injured? that was a fun time

      1. Lallana_
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Utd's fault for spending in the wrong areas.

        1. Somalion
          11 years, 6 months ago

          As was Liverpool's for wasting all the Suarez money.

          1. Lallana_
            11 years, 6 months ago

            Yes they did not spend well but they spent in the areas that needed strengthening like the striker spot. Utd have always needed more depth in that CB position.

            1. Somalion
              11 years, 6 months ago

              But wasting money in those areas is essentially the same thing. They didn't address the problems at all, spending 16 million on Balo was the exact same as not bothering at all.

              1. Lallana_
                11 years, 6 months ago

                Essentially my point is is that Utd can't complain about injuries at the CB spot when they knew going into the season they were short there.

                1. Somalion
                  11 years, 6 months ago

                  More than just CB injuries but my biggest gripe here is saying a huge reason they've possibly gotten CL is Liverpool lacking Suarez. It is such rubbish, United have earned a lot of their points. They're 1 point behind Arsenal, 2 behind City. Yes, Liverpool could be competing with Suarez, but it isn't a huge reason.

                  Oh and you lot bought Sturridge when you knew how injury prone he was. So you can't complain about him missing out either.

                  1. Lallana_
                    11 years, 6 months ago

                    I'm not saying Utd haven't earned their points but that the Liverpool team from last season scored 50+ goals more. LvG is more fortunate than Moyes in that regard.

                    1. Somalion
                      11 years, 6 months ago

                      And they conceded 50 goals. Pool were great last season but Suarez was there the previous season and they didn't finish in the top 4 so there's nothing to say this season would have been the exact same.

                      The issue for me is that neither Arsenal or City are lucky because Suarez has left but United are.

                      1. Lallana_
                        11 years, 6 months ago

                        The variables changed. Liverpool had Europe this season, Utd (LvG) didn't. When Moyes was in charge Utd had Europe and Liverpool didn't. That extra prep and rest between games is vital.

                        Also, LvG got a huge transfer kitty this season yet is only 6pts higher than Moyes.

                        It is clear to see City/Liverpool have dropped significantly since last season which has helped Utd.

                      2. Somalion
                        11 years, 6 months ago

                        Liverpool were out of Europe soon enough. I mean I understand what you say there but my issue is a) assuming Suarez staying would have made Pool the same team as last season even though they hadn't performed that well in previous seasons with him there and b) saying that it is a"big " reason. It is a factor, I can agree, but when you say that you essentially are writing off a lot of what United have done this season. And that grates on me. Here's a flip side, Arsenal have improved massively compared to last season, yes? Because United are still only 1 point being them.

                        I'm not complaining about the Moyes stuff, he got a rough time at United and I didn't want him turfed out so quickly. It is more this sense that United have been purely lucky this season which irritates me.

                      3. Lallana_
                        11 years, 6 months ago

                        Utd as a team did well! They certainly deserve top 4 but I'm saying there were factors that made LvG look significantly better than Moyes.

                        I think the top 4 off of merit is correct. LvG has dominated the big games and it's right for Utd to be in Europe.

                      4. Somalion
                        11 years, 6 months ago

                        *behind them

                        And this isn't just pointed at you BTW, all of what United have managed to do this season has been written off. They've had 2 defeats after a big run being undefeated, and are back to being lucky apparently.

                      5. Somalion
                        11 years, 6 months ago

                        See my second reply, I don't mean to be snapping but I've been reading about them being lucky for so long that it just cracked something off 😛

                        And I agree on the LVG vs Moyes stuff, I do think DM had a rough deal at United and felt very sorry for him tbh. He made mistakes, but so has LVG. Realistically, it was a poisoned chalice, and one of the more disappointing times I've had following United (seeing how he was treated)

                      6. Lallana_
                        11 years, 6 months ago

                        I wrote my original post in a slightly antagonizing way to seek some replies and get a debate going. I love to see different opinions on the matter 🙂

                      7. Gnu
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        11 years, 6 months ago

                        Mr Snappy cracking one off, Ooh matron...

                        I'll get my coat....

                      8. Somalion
                        11 years, 6 months ago

                        Well it worked 😛

                        I've never known you to be one of those ABUs so I shouldn't have been losing it so easilly!

                      9. Somalion
                        11 years, 6 months ago

                        Cracking one off might have relaxed me a tad 😛

        2. sinik
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          11 years, 6 months ago

          it was the club's fault that literally all defensive players were injured and we relied entirely on youth? even if we bought a CB, it would have been ONE player, with kids still around him

          1. @ocprodigy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            11 years, 6 months ago

            We did buy a CB. He's injured.

            1. sinik
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              11 years, 6 months ago

              yeah I meant another one..Smalling has been decent lately, but I'm still suspect there and don't trust Jones or Evans at all..

    4. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Yes but a huge reason Liverpool got top 4 last season was because they had 1 genuine world class player , no Europe , and knocked out of both domestic cups early

      1. Lallana_
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah Moyes had the pressure of Europe as well on his shoulders.

    5. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Moyes wasn't the right fit for the job, end of

      1. Leaf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Nothing wrong with Moyes imo

        Just not very good players

        1. sinik
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          11 years, 6 months ago

          plenty wrong with him

          not very good players

          1. Lallana_
            11 years, 6 months ago

            He lacked a presence that LvG has. I rate LvG higher but Moyes was dubbed as a huge failure which is a bit harsh.

            1. Ryan
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              11 years, 6 months ago

              We finished 7th. It was a huge failure

              1. Lallana_
                11 years, 6 months ago

                Moyes had 6pts less at this stage, with a worse squad and Europe. He also had to play against a more impressive City/Liverpool side last season.

                1. Ryan
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  11 years, 6 months ago

                  If we had 6pts less we'd be on track for finishing 7th again

                2. @ocprodigy
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  11 years, 6 months ago

                  In our recent starting XIs, Moyes had every player available bar our LB position, and today Blind CDM.

              2. Leaf
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                11 years, 6 months ago

                I think losing possibly the greatest manager of all time was going to have this effect

                1. Ryan
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  11 years, 6 months ago

                  We should have gotten a more commanding manager, Mourinho would have been good, I doubt we would have finished 7th with him in charge.

  2. Leaf
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Remy hatty v Leicester

    Optimistic

    1. TuttiFrutti
      11 years, 6 months ago

      we do deserve it. and he's due.

    2. toerag
      11 years, 6 months ago

      At the very least. 🙂

  3. The Light Knight
    11 years, 6 months ago

    What happened to AdM's confidence?
    Having Falcao get on the pitch ahead of you must be pretty soul destroying

  4. Owd Big 'Ed
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Chelsea playing without a stroker?

    1. Billy Gilmore
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I think Eva's the stroker.

      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        11 years, 6 months ago

        terry

    2. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      11 years, 6 months ago

      What are you talking about, Ivanovic is playing

  5. The Light Knight
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Seems about right
    https://vine.co/v/OQbzgnxtOdi

    1. BeachBadger
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I cant stop watching it

      1. TuttiFrutti
        11 years, 6 months ago

        reading your comment i was sure it was walkes gf and her dog...

    2. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
      11 years, 6 months ago

      😛

    3. ellelelle
      11 years, 6 months ago

      that is kind of creepy..

  6. LewanGOALski
    11 years, 6 months ago

    not shipping Remy out for Vardy / N'Doye for a hit may be my biggest mistake this season 🙁

  7. BeachBadger
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Fabregas up top on the line ups Ive seen

  8. Danstoke82
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Remy & Clyne > Giroud & Stones for -4?

    1. Boz
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Yes but wait

      1. Danstoke82
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Will wait on Giroud until after match for sure

  9. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Time for B. Ivanovic to deliver a vintage DGW 30-pointer. He can single-handidly win me my ML.

    1. Billy Gilmore
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Ned Flanders?

      1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
        11 years, 6 months ago

        What happened to your name?

        1. Billy Gilmore
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Oh, just taking the piss out of Daniel 😀

          1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
            11 years, 6 months ago

            I have missed out on the whole machine thing. Got some links form ENR and Milan but couldn't quite follow 😀

            1. Billy Gilmore
              11 years, 6 months ago

              Pretty sure it's a fictional character who owns all the high scoring players 😀

      2. The Light Knight
        11 years, 6 months ago

        😆

  10. athreya
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Mannone, Sagna, Kompany, Ferdinand, Shaw, gerrard, Barkley, Lallana, lamela, Nasri, Falcao.

    1. Wolverine
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 6 months ago

      My wildcard team was poor but no need to post it for everyone to see

    2. athreya
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Worst 11. Anyone I missed out?

      1. athreya
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Balotelli and Wilshere can't even make this team.

        1. @ocprodigy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Falcao has scored more than Balotelli.

    3. Jax
      11 years, 6 months ago

      this.

    4. Jax
      11 years, 6 months ago

      lallana nah. kevin nolan?

    5. Epic Fail
      11 years, 6 months ago

      ?

    6. Mull
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Balotelli.
      Sagna hasn't really had much chance to play.
      Lallana has been bad but not worst 11 bad.

    7. donkey73
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 6 months ago

      rvp? Balo ? Walcott ?

    8. fedolefan
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Why is Shaw in there?

  11. sinik
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    11 years, 6 months ago

    could have gone Fabregas-Giroud, went Ramsey-Costa

    c'mon unassisted hattrick Ramsey! 😎

  12. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    11 years, 6 months ago

    fabregas playing in a top hat ive heard

  13. I am 42
    11 years, 6 months ago

    oh no costa punt group hug please

    1. Epic Fail
      11 years, 6 months ago

      \o/

    2. sinik
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 6 months ago

      there there, he'll repay the faith vs Palace or in his cameo at Leicester

      1. Jax
        11 years, 6 months ago

        nah. injury is too severe.

        1. sinik
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          11 years, 6 months ago

          stop following me around 😆

          1. Jax
            11 years, 6 months ago

            nope.

    3. donkey73
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Oh yes!

  14. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Remy to Vardy... Paid off.

    1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Remy to start the Leicester game and score a hatty.

      1. Jax
        11 years, 6 months ago

        won't play again.

    2. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Well he only needed to start both games for it to pay off 😉

  15. The Light Knight
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Willian the striker today it seems. An even worse version of the Schurrle attempts last year

    1. Greenbackbøøg…
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Wasn't Schurrle alright up front? I remember him bagging a few goals

  16. Ludo
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Fabregas as a false nine for Barca: 34 games, 16 goals, 11 assists.

    He may or may not be playing there for Chelsea, but he's been very productive in that position. I don't have easy access to positions he's played for Spain, but he also scored well in Euro 2012 playing there. Like it or lump it, its hard to argue that it wouldn't be good news for Cesc owners!

    1. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Barcelona attack once in a while

    2. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      11 years, 6 months ago

      He isn't fast enough to play that role in a counter attack strategy.

      1. Alan The Llama
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Hazard almost never delivers the ball first time so he wouldn't have to be.

      2. Ludo
        11 years, 6 months ago

        I'm not sure of that. He needs to drop deep to receive the ball when Chelsea win it, play their quick counter attackers in with a through ball, and maybe arrive late in the box for a finish.

        Similar to Bergkamp in the invincibles - a very fast counter attacking side, that revolved around a slow centre forward.

        1. Ryan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Its a very different role to the false 9 role at Barca though. Fabregas has no experience in such a role.

          1. Ludo
            11 years, 6 months ago

            That's a fair point, we will see!

    3. Duke Silver ☑
      11 years, 6 months ago

      The key word there is "Barca".

      1. Ludo
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Maybe. Its hard to argue that if Chelsea are going to score though, he's less likely to get in this position than playing deeper.

    4. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 6 months ago

      yes, ramires and willian are Xavi and iniesta.
      right.

    5. Long Juan Silva
      11 years, 6 months ago

      And part of the reason he left was because he hated playing that position.

      100% he won't be the false 9 today.

  17. TuttiFrutti
    11 years, 6 months ago

    omg. gomis>remy>sturridge>costa worked out a charm...

  18. roghippo
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone doing worse than 23points??

    1. Duke Silver ☑
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Na but 29 ain't much better.

    2. Vatroslav
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Me, 16...

    3. TuttiFrutti
      11 years, 6 months ago

      i do if you divide by two. considered captaining baines, but people here talked me out of it... fml..... sums up my season rly

      1. ellelelle
        11 years, 6 months ago

        listen tyo your heart.. when he's calling for you...

        1. TuttiFrutti
          11 years, 6 months ago

          true

          1. ellelelle
            11 years, 6 months ago

            listen to your heart.. there's nothing else you can do!

            I don't know where I'm going, and I don't know why. 😕

            1. TuttiFrutti
              11 years, 6 months ago

              😉

      2. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        11 years, 6 months ago

        tbf its a dgw so captaining baines was never going to be recommended 🙄

      3. Les Bleus
        11 years, 6 months ago

        In a DGW, seriously?

        1. TuttiFrutti
          11 years, 6 months ago

          no. just want to moan about something.

          1. TuttiFrutti
            11 years, 6 months ago

            do my best to be a part of the group

    4. Jax
      11 years, 6 months ago

      no

    5. Epic Fail
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Yes

      1. Epic Fail
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Not me though, I'm killing it.

    6. ellelelle
      11 years, 6 months ago

      no, but I'm not doing much better 😆

    7. Davido989
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I'm on 13

    8. Wolverine
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Nah.. If it makes you feel better that's schmiechel and n'doyes points combined in my team

    9. Ludo
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I'm only on 28 (-4), though I do have 13 still to play.

    10. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 6 months ago

      22

  19. davies
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Did you seriously compare Barca to Chelsea when attacking?

  20. Davido989
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Has Sanchez got injured in warm up or is it a Twitter troll?

    1. davies
      11 years, 6 months ago

      You shouldn't have said that, here.

      1. Davido989
        11 years, 6 months ago

        looks like a troll. Nothing to see here

      2. Duke Silver ☑
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Judging by the background image, that's a troll.

  21. mojoindojo
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Arsenal clean sheet please

    1. Jax
      11 years, 6 months ago

      1-1

  22. Leaf
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    11 years, 6 months ago

    No fab , Sterling wearing Hazards armband & Arsenal fan

    Moves sofa out

  23. Syd.
    11 years, 6 months ago

    That 3rd goal was def offside

    1. Jax
      11 years, 6 months ago

      so? doesn't matter. game was over.

    2. davies
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Correction: Lukaku was, Mirallas wasn't.

      1. Syd.
        11 years, 6 months ago

        If Lukaku wasn't there the United players wouldn't have stopped and let Mirallas have a free run

        He was interfering so it was offside

        1. davies
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Play to the whistle. Simple.

        2. TuttiFrutti
          11 years, 6 months ago

          lol...

        3. Billy Gilmore
          11 years, 6 months ago

          They didn't play to the whistle, so they've only got themselves to blame.

        4. FPLEL
          11 years, 6 months ago

          How was he interfering? I'm almost certain it was the right call.

  24. Greenbackbøøg…
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Sanchez injured apparently

    1. Jax
      11 years, 6 months ago

      no he's not.

    2. Davido989
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Made up rumour by arsenal fan

  25. Bubz
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Sanchez injured?

    1. Jax
      11 years, 6 months ago

      NO.....

    2. Davido989
      11 years, 6 months ago

      No mate

  26. Syd.
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Sanchez out

    Injured in warm up

    1. Jax
      11 years, 6 months ago

      no peg.

    2. Red Star Toro
      11 years, 6 months ago

      source?

      1. Jax
        11 years, 6 months ago

        HP Brown?

  27. Duke Silver ☑
    11 years, 6 months ago

    An Ivanovic goal and clean sheet isn't too much to ask, is it?

    1. The Light Knight
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Not for the entire DGW no

    2. Wouter
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Not sure what I'd do if that happens today haha. Ivanovic (C) here.

  28. The Light Knight
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Sanchez beheaded.
    Matic just dragged torso onto pitch

    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      11 years, 6 months ago

      yup and fabregas playing the false crossbar at the opposition end

    2. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Hard to clearly identify with all that blood..... and no head. 🙂

      1. The Light Knight
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Sanchez jersey in Matic's hand. Used to wipe blood off boots before tossing it into the family area in the stands

    3. davies
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Then Coquelin kills Matic.

  29. Dušan Citizen
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Had no players in Everton - United match, but I really enjoyed. 😀 Most beautiful stadium in PL, Everton's masterclass and great pace.

    1. Jax
      11 years, 6 months ago

      it's not really.

    2. Duke Silver ☑
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I've always thought of Goodison as a bit of a shithole tbh. Almost like a shed.

      1. Jax
        11 years, 6 months ago

        this. it's a garage.

      2. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        11 years, 6 months ago

        certainly one of the last pillared stadiums remaining

    3. Davido989
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Emirates and St Mary's head and shoulders above any stadium in the league

      1. Ludo
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Identikit grounds both. Give me a Goodison or a Craven Cottage any day.

        1. Jay_
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Craven cottage my favourite away day in the whole country, beautiful walk along the river , great atmosphere, ground rocks, old fashioned stadium

  30. kapulasta
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Any news on Moreno? Sorry fellow owners, got Stones first sub so bad news is good news today

    1. Jax
      11 years, 6 months ago

      prob play v hull.