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2 August 2015 4903 comments
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Aston Villa’s summer of restructuring continued on Friday afternoon with the acquisition of striker Rudy Gestede from Blackburn Rovers. The 26-year-old becomes the club’s ninth new face of the summer transfer window as Tim Sherwood strengthens up front following the departure of Christian Benteke to Liverpool.

Discussing his move with the club’s official website, Gestede cited the Villains’ attack-minded approach under Sherwood as key to his decision:

”The manager told me I’d bring another dimension to the team because of my size and the way I play. He trusts me and I felt comfortable to sign as I knew he wanted me here. It’s good to be part of his new set-up. He’s still relatively new himself and trying to refresh the team. He’s brought in a lot of new players and I’m thrilled to be a part of it. I love the way his teams attack and play on the front foot. For a striker, I’m going to have chances to score goals. That’s all you want.”

The History

Brought up in Essey-les-Nancy, France, Gestede joined FC Metz’ youth academy at the age of 16, penning a professional deal one year later. He played for their B team for the next five years while notching three goals in 28 appearances for the senior outfit. A season-long loan spell to Cannes for the 2009/10 campaign harvested four goals in 22 outings, before Cardiff City snapped him up in the summer of 2011.

Gestede struggled to impart his influence during his debut term with the Bluebirds, bagging just one goal and three assists across 25 appearances (five starts). An injury that summer found him sidelined for the opening two months of the 2012/13 Championship season. Upon his return, Gestede played second fiddle to the likes of Craig Bellamy and Heidar Helguson, mustering a modest haul of five goals and three assists in 27 appearances (five starts).

In an attempt to secure more regular playing time, Gestede joined Blackburn Rovers on loan in November 2013. He then signed a permanent deal with the Lancashire club in January, before going on to record 13 goals and three assists in 27 outings. His fine form carried over to the previous campaign, when he chalked up 20 goals and four assists in 39 appearances, ranking joint-fourth in the league-wide scoring charts.

On the international stage, Gestede represented France U19s on 17 occasions between 2006-08 but never turned out for the senior side. Called up by Benin in 2013, he has since scored three times in six appearances.

The Prospects

Speaking on Gestede’s arrival at Villa Park, Sherwood lauded the 26-year-old for his eye-catching attacking output last term:

“I’ve known about Rudy since he was at Cardiff City and he is a player I’ve always admired. His goalscoring ratio last season was fantastic and he is someone who certainly knows how to find the back of the net. He’s a big, physical striker but he can play and I’m pleased to welcome him to the football club.”

The former Spurs head coach was clearly in the market for an imposing frontman to fill the niche vacated by Christian Benteke, who won more aerial duels (187) than any other frontman in the Premier League last season. Certainly, Gestede looks the ideal replacement –over the last two seasons, no player in the top four levels of English football has netted more goals from headers.

Villa’s wide men could well prosper from Gestede’s introduction to the starting XI. The likes of Leandro Bacuna (5.0) – who’s classified as a defender but has been fielded on the right flank in pre-season – already piqued our interest with his out-of-position potential and could further profit from the new boy’s arrival. The former Netherlands U21 international ranked second (18) behind Ashley Westwood (23) among Villa’s midfield for crosses, despite clocking only 1044 minutes. With a cross frequency of one every 15.3 minutes, Bacuna could the perfect foil for the ex-Blackburn marksman.

That being said, the possible recruitment of Emmanuel Adebayor offers Sherwood an alternative to Gestede and with Libor Kozak also in the mix, the Villa boss has target man alternatives. Given that Sherwood has utilised 4-3-3 and 4-4-1-1 set-ups over the summer, Gestede has the physical attributes to lead the line as a lone striker, though the Villa boss has also trialled a 4-4-2, which could see fellow new boy Jordan Ayew offer plenty of pace and movement alongside a more robust strike partner up front. Like Ayew, Gabriel Agbonlahor can also operate on the flanks but will perhaps be limited to minutes off the bench in light of Sherwood’s squad overhaul.

Sherwood’s penchant for attacking football may well promote Villa’s main men as viable value options for the season ahead. A weekend hat-trick from Scott Sinclair (5.0 in FPL) has many mulling over his inclusion in our midfields, and if Gestede nail down a starting berth, he may also stake a claim for our Fantasy consideration. Likely to come in around 6.0 – the same as Ayew – in FPL, the former Blackburn hit man has six favourable fixtures (bou, cpl, SUN, lei, WBA, STOK) in the first eight Gameweeks to ease him into his new surrounds.

Further Reference

Rudy Gestede Wikipedia Page

Rudy Gestede Transfer Markt Page

Rudy Gestede YouTube Highlights

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  1. shite_factor
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Ruddy (Butland) - Schmeichel will be in after 8 or so weeks.

    Azpilicueta / Mertesacker / Francis (Huth / Targett)

    Fàbregas / Mané / Cazorla / Sterling (Wanyama)

    Rooney / Sakho / Lukaku

    2.5m itb for Costa & Benteke and any other player that tickles my fancy.

    What ye reckon??

    1. semiconductor
      11 years, 2 months ago

      exactly my team except for lukaku and cazorla....i have hazard instead of fab and the 2.5m

  2. FPL Blow-In
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Ugh now I'm considering 3-5-2 again. Thoughts on this?

    Schmeichel, Hennessy
    Azpi+4.5/Shaw+Jenk, Huth, Coates, Mings
    Hazard, Walcott, Sterling, Depay, Payet
    Benteke, Pelle, Wilson

    1. ​
      11 years, 2 months ago

      looks good but will need surgery for getting in Aguero

      1. FPL Blow-In
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Yeah my thoughts also. Early WC is becoming more tempting with each draft

    2. Pitchless
      11 years, 2 months ago

      If you plan to rotate payet and wilson, i would be annoyed to bench 7.5m every 2 weeks..
      you could do walcott-> cazorla/ozil/ramsey and payet-> Mané or even downgarde wilson to jerome

      1. FPL Blow-In
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 2 months ago

        No would be playing 3-5-2 most weeks so probably should go cheaper with 3rd striker just gw1 goggles on...

        1. Pitchless
          11 years, 2 months ago

          i didn' see you had pelle also, so maybe not Mané. If you go 3-5-2 then looks good but i would still tryo to swap Payet for a 8.5. Payet has been one of the least consistent player in French league for years.. that's my view

          1. FPL Blow-In
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            11 years, 2 months ago

            Thanks for the input

  3. Arsenals Number 19. Santi C…
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Ozil best Arsenal mid option atm considering his prominent position and set piece appeal

  4. Doctorin' the Tadic
    11 years, 2 months ago

    A) Silva + Sakho

    Or

    B) Ozil + Pelle

    ?

    1. CarsonYeung
      11 years, 2 months ago

      A by a mile

      1. Chris_White
        11 years, 2 months ago

        this

    2. BigManBakar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 2 months ago

      B).

    3. grapesland
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 2 months ago

      B

    4. Doctorin' the Tadic
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Glad we got that cleared up 🙂

      Anyone want to tip the balance?

      1. grapesland
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 2 months ago

        B

        🙂

  5. ninja101
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Way too light of defence?

    Cech - 4.0
    Ivan - OShea - Mariappa - (Baker - Simpson)
    Haz - Caz - Sterling - Hendo - (Wanyama)
    Roo - Kane - Sakho

    ?/10

    1. andyinasia
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Very much so.

      Rest is excellent but that defence will hurt you.

    2. ​
      11 years, 2 months ago

      GB is looking at

      4.5 - 4.0
      4.5 - 4.0 - 4.0 - 4.0 - 4.0

      So in that context nothing is too cheap 😛

    3. BigManBakar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Yes - need to downgrade Kane and spend some money on defense, imo.

    4. Dušan Citizen
      11 years, 2 months ago

      4

    5. DVassell
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Way too light- downgrade sterling to Mane and upgrade Mariappa and Baker to 4.5s

      1. DVassell
        11 years, 2 months ago

        otherwise Ivan to Koscielny can also free up the funds

  6. BigManBakar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Think I'm fairly settled on this lot, for now

    Mignolet / Ruddy

    Ivanovic / Koscielny / Cedric / Richards / Francis

    Hazard / Walcott / Sterling / Mahrez / Fletcher

    Rooney / Pelle / Wilson

    Thoughts on the team,please? 🙂

    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Its got a big bum.

    2. ​
      11 years, 2 months ago

      4-3-3?

      1. BigManBakar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 2 months ago

        3-4-3. Mahrez and Wilson every week. Tasty fixtures.

        1. Reedy
          11 years, 2 months ago

          I'm punting on Mahrez too. Let's hope for a minimum amount of tinkering from you-know-who

          1. BigManBakar
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            11 years, 2 months ago

            Haha yep - been on a the Leicester forums recently and the vast majority of the fans over there suggest that Mahrez and Vardy should be nailed. But at the end of the day, it is up to the manager!

            1. Reedy
              11 years, 2 months ago

              Fingers crossed hey 🙂

        2. Tiamani Warrior
          11 years, 2 months ago

          you think sterling can do as well as silva? I'm tempted to spend the extra 1mil and get silva

          1. BigManBakar
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            11 years, 2 months ago

            Yes I do - both are good options but the difference in value isn't worth 1 million imo. Sterling it is.

        3. ​
          11 years, 2 months ago

          Not a fan tbh

    3. La Roja
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Good team TFF, but not sold Mahrez love here

      Money ITB?

      1. BigManBakar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Thank you LR! 🙂

        None, might do Wally to Caz/Ozil which would give me 0.5 in the bank. Always nice to have a bit of flexibility at the start of the season

    4. Rotation City
      11 years, 2 months ago

      This is the 2nd team of your I've seen I think, I always really like them.
      Downgrade Ivan or Kos to fund Kun is it?

      1. BigManBakar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Thank you so much 🙂

        Yes , should be a simple downgrade from Ivan to a 5.5 or Walcott to a mid-priced mid.

  7. ​
    11 years, 2 months ago

    With all these plans for Aguero's return, is anybody also planning for Sanchez or Zabaleta?

    1. Demí
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Doubt anyone's planning for Zabaleta

      1. ​
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Gameweeks 4-12 are lush for City though...

        1. Shipstontrev
          11 years, 2 months ago

          But City's defence is more mush than lush.

        2. Demí
          11 years, 2 months ago

          hmm maybe. i fear zaba will be rotatated at times for sagna. city looking shocking in defence, whether they fix up remains to be seen.

          1. ​
            11 years, 2 months ago

            37 and 38 goals conceded in the last two seasons suggest anything but shocking. Not Chelsea levels of defence but comfortably top3 defence in the league. Plus I'm a sucker for Zabaleta's attacking play.

            1. ​
              11 years, 2 months ago

              maybe top 5 not top 3 but still.

    2. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Yeah Sanchez and Kun will both be back in GW 2-3 most likely. Will be hard to reshuffle the team to accommodate both.

    3. onionbarje
      11 years, 2 months ago

      i dont expect aguero to be thrown in immediately, same with sanchez, not until the end of august

      1. Chris_White
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Aguero will play vs Chelsea, you'd imagine.

        1. onionbarje
          11 years, 2 months ago

          i think he will make a cameo, but i could be wrong

    4. Chris_White
      11 years, 2 months ago

      The wildcards are gonna flow.

      1. ​
        11 years, 2 months ago

        the more I look at it, the more I want to bring in 3x Man City in week 4 so I might start planning around a week 4 wildcard.

        1. FPL Blow-In
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          11 years, 2 months ago

          Been kind of planning this myself... Not for 3x City, more so for Aguero and rearrange the team...

  8. Shaw must go on
    11 years, 2 months ago

    what do you think about this :

    Fabianski,mccarthy

    Mert,muniesa,sakho,huth.targett

    Hazard,ramsey,depay,tadic,andreu

    Benteke,wilson,aguero

    1. Shaw must go on
      11 years, 2 months ago

      need a chelsea defender in there,right?

    2. Davido989
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Sakho should be nailed but may not.. http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/comment/10689514

  9. cheeky_ash
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Didn't think much of hazard today....may start with fabs instead...

    1. Reedy
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Yeah but don't be fooled...he's dangerous not to own. Still going to be my GW1 captain.

  10. ThunderNLightnin
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Hey guys, which option do you guys prefer?

    a) £7.0 and Smith
    b) Lens and Francis

    1. ThunderNLightnin
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Advice much appreciated 🙂

    2. justgiving.com/JonnyChard
      11 years, 2 months ago

      hmm.. neither :/ any more thoughts?

    3. justgiving.com/JonnyChard
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Ritchie + 5.5? 🙂

  11. Skogen89
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    11 years, 2 months ago

    RMT please

    Myhill \ Ruddy
    Ivano\ Mertz \ Huth \ Yoshida \ Baker
    Cazorla \ Sterling \ Hazard \ Depay\ Westwood
    Sakho \ Benteke \ Pelle

    MTB: 0.5m

    Could do Cazorla -> Walcott

    1. Bricktop_1
      11 years, 2 months ago

      improve baker for me

  12. Kikofraeuropa
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Which strikers have you gone for? 🙂

    1. Davido989
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Aguero Benteke Sakho

    2. Lucy.
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Rooney Benteke Wilson

      1. La Roja
        11 years, 2 months ago

        This

      2. Gloria Kanchelskis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 2 months ago

        This

    3. justgiving.com/JonnyChard
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Rooney, Kane, Wilson 🙂

    4. Reedy
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Aguero, Rooney and - er- Rantie

      1. Reedy
        11 years, 2 months ago

        3-5-2 ofc

    5. BigManBakar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Rooney / Pelle / Wilson

    6. grapesland
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Rooney Pelle Benteke

  13. Doctor X
    11 years, 2 months ago

    I was looking at my team and trying to be objective about it and shell out sound reasoning for why I have each player that I have in there.

    And then I stopped at Milner and wondered why exactly I want him there. He's a CM (who gets forward a bit, yes) - not the best FPL player to have over the likes of probably more attacking options at the same price like Chadli for example. Then I realised, that I had him just cause I felt secure having player from a top 6 team in my squad to obtain 'coverage'

    Pools fixtures are alternating between good and bad. However I was thinking that a cheaper, more attacking and punty option with a continuous good run of fixtures might be the way to go. I came up with Redmond, Lens and Ritchie at cheaper prices. All of them rather unproven in PL.

    Do I go with Milner that leaves me feeling secure, or with one of the other new boys instead?

    1. Pacman
      11 years, 2 months ago

      I went with Milner. My plan is go keep Milner until a cheaper "punt" who seems to be in form comes along.

    2. Bricktop_1
      11 years, 2 months ago

      id go with Milner purely because hes looked impressive

    3. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Why not just Chadli that you mentioned...
      Out of the others I would go with Milner.

      1. Doctor X
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Is it wierd that I don't wanna get him cause he's playing United the first GW? I should probably let go of that fact and build a team not just for the first GW I suppose. I'm absolutely undecided on my last midfield spot.

        1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
          11 years, 2 months ago

          Well I have the exact same problem, I don't like his first gw. Same issue with Payet. I'm on Hendo now but will most likely end up with Chadli when deadline closes in.

          1. Doctor X
            11 years, 2 months ago

            Yup. I think I might ditch Milner come the first GW and go with someone that has a little more attacking prowess with a continuous run of decent fixtures so I don't have to sweat playing him some weeks.

        2. Gloria Kanchelskis
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          11 years, 2 months ago

          And the United defence is not that solid 🙁

          1. Doctor X
            11 years, 2 months ago

            Im sure they'll be much much better with Darmian, Schneiderlin and Shaw nice and fit. Fingers crossed we can leave De Gea relatively work-free this season.

            1. onionbarje
              11 years, 2 months ago

              we have jones and blind as our main cbs, i aint too optimistic

  14. justgiving.com/JonnyChard
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Ruddy, Rudd
    Azpi, Huth, Coates, Francis, Richards
    Haz, Sterling, Walcott, Mane, King
    Rooney, Kane, Wilson

    Thoughts much appreciated gents 🙂 about the millionth draft!

    1. Pacman
      11 years, 2 months ago

      I like your team. After today though I'm a little hesitant on wally

      1. justgiving.com/JonnyChard
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Wally is definitely one to monitor...but he could be a gem, that is the problem! + if he's going to be played more in a striker position, his threat increases.. it will be one of those 3 mids in the middle that I downgrade (in this draft, anyway) to fund Aguero 🙂

        1. Pacman
          11 years, 2 months ago

          Worth a punt in the start for sure. I had both him and ozil until today's match. Mind rating my team below?

  15. KASABIAN_LSF
    11 years, 2 months ago

    A ,Ozil - hendo - Kane

    B, Haz-Chadi- Pelle ??????

    1. justgiving.com/JonnyChard
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Haz, Hendo, Kane...if you can 😉

      1. justgiving.com/JonnyChard
        11 years, 2 months ago

        or, could do Haz, Ritchie, Kane 🙂

  16. UnitedFan
    11 years, 2 months ago

    So who do we think will get the drop this season?

  17. Pacman
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Final RMT prior to next week...I hope.

    Cech // Schwarzer
    Bellerin o'shea ward // Gomez s Taylor
    Hazard ozil milner Sterling tadic
    Rooney lukaku // deeney

    3-5-2 with the thought of getting in aguero for Sterling & lukaku after gw4 and switching to a 3-4-3

  18. Hampe
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Ivano- Mert - cedric - huth - 4,5 but who? Any tips on a defender rotating well with huth and can stand in for cedric some time?

    1. Bricktop_1
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Coates or Oshea

  19. crease123
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Who to lead my attack? Thinking to switch between 3-5-2 and 3-4-3. My midfield currently is Walcott, Hazard, Mane, Depay, Ritchie

    (a) Costa, Deeney, Sakho

    (b) Pelle, Benteke, Sakho

    1. Pacman
      11 years, 2 months ago

      I like B

  20. Count of Monte Hristo
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Depay or Mane?

    Currently have Rooney + Pelle

    1. Pacman
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Tadic? Then use the extra money elsewhere

      1. Count of Monte Hristo
        11 years, 2 months ago

        I think the other two will score alot more points

    2. Gorgles
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Pelle to tekkers and Mane

    3. Reedy
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Mane!

  21. Demí
    11 years, 2 months ago

    FPL need to hurry up and add Iheanacho to the game as a city forward. Chance he features against West Brom with Aguero/Bony unfit

    1. Reedy
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Interesting. TBH though, with City's fixtures, it's probably not such a loss.

      1. Demí
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Oh, i would never consider him in FPL. Just wrong that he could get some minutes, yet not be listed in the game

        1. Reedy
          11 years, 2 months ago

          True - it's the principle 🙂

    2. Lucy.
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Email them?

      1. Demí
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Already did

      2. Bricktop_1
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Ask em to make him 4.0 too would you, cheers

    3. ​
      11 years, 2 months ago

      3rd striker in a 352? I'm worried he'll be protectively priced at 5.5

  22. Bricktop_1
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Mane or Tadic?

    Got Saylor so could use the money to upgrade him or Wilson > Sakho.

    Is Tadic on PK?

    1. Lucy.
      11 years, 2 months ago

      See my Hot Topic 🙂

    2. Reedy
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Hmm...I'd take a 7m mid and upgrade Saylor. But I prefer Milner, Chadli & Hendo to Tadic.

      1. Reedy
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Love Mane but hate not-nailed-on defenders

        1. Reedy
          11 years, 2 months ago

          and Newcastle defenders.

          1. Reedy
            11 years, 2 months ago

            and their awful, awful fixtures

            1. ​
              11 years, 2 months ago

              and the wally with a brolly.

              1. Reedy
                11 years, 2 months ago

                ...but otherwise he's a great pick

                1. ​
                  11 years, 2 months ago

                  OH yeah, I'd still totally get him.

            2. Bricktop_1
              11 years, 2 months ago

              *instantly removes him*

    3. Pacman
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Tadic is on penalties. I like tadic but a lot of people on here are big on mane. If it's a toss up, go with tadic and use the extra money elsewhere.

      1. Davido989
        11 years, 2 months ago

        having a p-star as your name ey

  23. JustWatching
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Azpilicueta and Rooney or Shaw and Costa?

    1. UnitedFan
      11 years, 2 months ago

      A

    2. Shipstontrev
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Azpi and Roo

    3. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 2 months ago

      I went from having 3/4 of these (Azpi, Roo, Costa) to just one (Shaw)....

  24. Heskey Time
    11 years, 2 months ago

    A) ozil, Kos, Coates
    B) ozil, mert, Williams
    C) Walcott, Cedric, Williams

    Keep in mind that either Williams or Coates would be rotating with Huth and either mert, Kos, or Cedric will play every week. Help and ideas appreciated?

  25. UnitedFan
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Cazorla or Ramsey and why?

    1. onionbarje
      11 years, 2 months ago

      ramsey always seems to do better in fpl and will always play

  26. ​
    11 years, 2 months ago

    If I plan to wildcard for Aguero's return, I don't need Rooney as a place holder and everything becomes sooo much nicer.

  27. jam sandwich
    11 years, 2 months ago

    RMT

    Butland - Speroni
    Koscielny - Cedric - Huth - Martin - Francis
    Hazard - Cazorla - Henderson - Ritchie - Fletcher
    Aguero - Rooney - Deeney

    todays changes: azp -> kosc, ozil -> caz

    plan to get costa gw1 if aguero is going to be out

    1. ​
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Speroni is out for 3 weeks if that bothers you.

  28. jinthy86
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Who is better from:

    Pelle OR Benteke

    AND

    Lescott or Janmaat

    1. Bricktop_1
      11 years, 2 months ago

      benteke and I suppose Lescott

    2. Heskey Time
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Benteke and lescott

  29. Sergeant Garcia
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Bassong or Francis?

    1. ronmadpirlo
      11 years, 2 months ago

      francis

    2. Aurora
      11 years, 2 months ago

      francois

  30. ronmadpirlo
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Need to save 0.5 mill from somewhere so thinking of Pan > Myhill

    Any West Brom fans have an opinion over who will be number 1 (in foster's absence) should Marshall sign?