[sbu_large_image] Preamble
19 September 2015 1764 comments
Mark Mark
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I’ve been observing the recent community discussion on “casual” Fantasy Football managers with interest.

Woeisme’s excellent recent article brought it further into focus and helped us digest the debate but, in my view, we’re treading over very familiar ground here.

The propensity to roll out the term “casual” and apply it liberally to a huge group of Fantasy Football managers, who have little interest in investing hours in their decision-making, is something that crops up almost every season.

It’s probably fair to say that the level of frustration being felt right now is greater than ever, hence the bile generated and aimed at this unfortunate group is perhaps more potent.

First of all, as Woeisme rightly pointed out, there’s little point in claiming that this “group” don’t exist.

There’s no doubt that the 3.5 million population of the FPL game includes an army of folk who pick a pre-season squad in a lunch hour, only revisiting it when their colleague at the water cooler remarks that they’re second in the mini-league.

That happens. It’s probably happened in thousands of offices and, the way this season is going, it will go on happening for some weeks.

Four years ago, I placed my tongue firmly in cheek and acknowledged this group of Fantasy Football Managers in this article. I’ve just read it back and it’s still relevant today.

Labelling the “casual” as “Part-time Petes”, I make no apology if I was disparaging to their cause and motivation – this was a piece glorying in Fantasy Football stereotypes and poking fun.

Some will doubtless say that by writing and drawing further attention to that article, I’m prolonging this mistreatment of the “casual” Fantasy Football manager.

That may well be the case but, in many ways, I think if we start becoming too sensitive to this kind of mirth, we’re starting to steal from the very essence that made the game fun in the first place.

Going back twenty years or more, Fantasy Football lived and breathed solely within a group of football fans, brought together by some numbers that appeared in a newspaper, distributed weekly by some poor soul who took it upon themselves to run the mini-league. I eagerly signed up for that position.

Just as folk back then aimed derisory terms my way by virtue of my number-crunching obsession, so I sniped back on their beermat transfer, hurried along whilst indulging in futile attempts at chatting up the receptionist.

There were clear divisions between the level of commitment and, when the points came in and those divisions didn’t quite work out as expected, the real fun began. While divided by our level of interest, we were brought together for a few minutes of ribbing each day by this “thing” called Fantasy Football.

That same “repartee” and “banter” goes on now, perhaps to a lesser degree face to face, but certainly via 140 characters or sly emails pinged across the office.

I try not to look upon those who choose not to spend three hours comparing Aston Villa full-backs with any disdain. Equally I don’t expect them to roll out the tired old “saddo” or “statto” moniker in my direction. I’m probably kidding myself on that score.

However, when the season begins and the early divide takes an unexpected turn, it would be a waste not to seize upon that opportunity to make hay.

I cut a miserable figure in the mid-table of my office league. Quite frankly, I expect to be on the receiving end when I face the guy who is winning the league: someone who is often too busy nursing a hangover on a Saturday morning to even know how important 11.45 is.

I’m not happy about it, but I’m quietly confident that I’m going make up ground and that by allocating 87% of my daily attention span to considering my transfers, I’ll eventually win out.

I can offer up a wry smile and revel in the fact that, for those brief moments, Fantasy Football in some way unites me with another football fan, albeit a very different one.

To some extent, on the site, we’re all brought together by a level of obsession and, as a result, an elitist view can build when looking upon those who don’t quite share that same obsession.

We should work to avoid that at all costs and instead glory in the fact that folk are different and that Fantasy Football can bring us together, whatever the level of investment, and provide a platform for “fun” and community.

This “casual” Fantasy manager exists and deserves their place in that bigger community and even their Gameweeks at the top of the mini-league. It’s a huge part of what makes Fantasy Football so compelling and the reason why I ended up here in the first place.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Demí
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Just 5(x2) points from my captain this weekend. That's all i ask

    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      1,2,2,2,1 so far 😎

      1. Dr Dream
        • 13 Years
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        That's why I'm rapidly preferring UFPL right now.

        1. The Bandit
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Overtaken you now 😉

          1. Dr Dream
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Yeah I saw. Very nice with the captain Payet. Three days of (c) picks with a result in the end. Good stuff.

        2. Epic Fail
          • 15 Years
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          How's your rank?

          1. Dr Dream
            • 13 Years
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            111....

            1. Epic Fail
              • 15 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Nice. You must be loving it.

              Not logged in, but somewhere in the 200 region

              1. Dr Dream
                • 13 Years
                10 years, 5 months ago

                It' offers more excitement for the entire weekend. As with WR above.

                I have a full bench ready for tomorrow...it's like playing twice a week.

          2. Dr Dream
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            And you?

      2. Fred54
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        1,1,2,2,1.

    2. BIG TONES
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Any return will do! 5 blanks here

    3. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Fluff that. I want at least a brace.

    4. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Demi Bou to win or lose? What's the bet?

      1. Demí
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Bou to draw or lose

        1. FPL Daniel
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Thanks so I should bench Francis if that is the case

          1. FPL Daniel
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            >?

          2. Demí
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            He's got assist potential though, depends on your other players

    5. TheSaint
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Could be time for the unthinkable........drop Kun.

  2. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
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    Favourite article etc...

    Clyne or Skrtel?

    Ta 🙂

    1. Shrimp On The Barb
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Clyne

  3. Shrimp On The Barb
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Play Richards or Payet?

    1. BIG TONES
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I'm playing Payet. Always play the attacker is how I play

  4. McEwan2002
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    guys need some help. shall i sell pedro to kdb for -4.

    1. Zh0u
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Keep

  5. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Ive just realised that the City game is at 530. Ive lose count of the number of times that ive seen Kun score in the late kick off game

    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Yep, he loves a lie-in

    2. Shrimp On The Barb
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      he was also injured last year in the late game

  6. Portsmouth Bubblejet
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    My favourite comments of the week are comments saying that this article is their favourite article of the week.

    1. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Well you're in luck

    2. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      It is. My breathing nearly stopped when that rumor that Jonty is doing them now appeared 😛

      1. J0E
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        What rumour? First I've heard of it. 🙂

  7. Tomas Brolin ate all Depays
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Bench ?
    A) Bellerin chel
    B) Targett MAN

    1. krzys
      • 12 Years
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      Targett

    2. Hinchcliffe Thumper
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Targett

  8. Ayew Serious
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    A) Prodl new
    B) Richards WBA

    1. krzys
      • 12 Years
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      Richards

    2. Milner4eva
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      B

    3. Hinchcliffe Thumper
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      B

    4. Every Dog Has Its Day
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      B.

  9. Malcolm Tucker for England …
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    "casual" writing the preambles now...

  10. Your Mum's Athletic
    • 14 Years
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    Bad timing but G2G lads? nothing need a FT, just pray Pedro plays:

    Butland

    Kolarov Lovren Souare

    Sanchez Sterling Pedro Mahrez

    Aguero (c) Benteke Wilson

    Subs: McCarthy Westwood Morgan Targett

    1. Francescoli
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      i'm singing the pedro hymn too. good to go yma

      1. Your Mum's Athletic
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        cheers jeanz

  11. The Road Dogg
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Myhill McCarthy

    Huth Williams Kolarov Richards Saylor

    Sanchez Silva Mahrez Payet Ayew

    Aguero Gomis Wilson

    Is it worth doing Richards to Clyne for their two easy fixtures. Plus I don't think Richards will be a good pick long term anyway?

    Transfer seems a bit boring anyone have any other ideas??

    1.4 ITB

  12. 1966 was a great year for E…
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    #justiceforRBJ

    1. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      If I had a membership, I'd cancel it in protest 😉

    2. Pasqualinho
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I do miss RBJ. Sometimes its good for the needy fantasy manager to get an earful.

      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        He isn't banned, though it's fair to say he probably wouldn't last long 😀

    3. The Mighty One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I miss the man. Did he just quit cold-turkey?

      Puffinboy did too right?

  13. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Classic clickbait......

  14. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Mark

    How may people actively use this site?

    1. Mark
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 19 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Depends on what you mean by actively - do you mean posting comments or just visiting?

      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Well both would be interesting 🙂

        1. Mark
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 19 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Well, this week, just under 200k uniques have visited. No idea how many uniques have commented, we don't have a report on that, just comment numbers - we probably should.

          1. The Bandit
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Thanks

    2. Hinchcliffe Thumper
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      2317

    3. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      8 plus casuals who aren't "people"

  15. ScottyMaz12
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Thoughts on this please folks?

    Darmian, Pedro, Pelle > Dawson, Silva, Benteke (-4)

    Have enough to just do Pelle > Benteke otherwise...

  16. Chenku╰☆╮
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Mark sounds like a Ruth imposter in the preamble..

    1. Fred54
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Speaking of Ruth, he hasn't posted for a while....

  17. Zh0u
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Just took my captain armband off Kun and gave it to Mahrez. Trying to get top spot in the mini league instead of being a co-leader.

    Go Mahrez!

  18. Mohit20
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    need some advice!!

    azpi-->kolarov
    hazard-->silva for free or give hazard one more chance and rather do mane -->sterling
    my team
    smeichel
    clyne azpi francis
    hazard ozil mahrez mane
    aguero wilson benteke

    bench- targett oshea wanyama

    thanks in advance 🙂

    1. Blame it on Traore
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Hazard to Silva. I'd make that transfer.

  19. John Colby (C)
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Morning all,

    Would you bench Payet away to City or play Janmaat at home to Watford?

    1. Hinchcliffe Thumper
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Yanmath!

      1. John Colby (C)
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Janmaat it is - cheers

  20. OptimusBlack
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    It worth to get Defender from liverpool for this Gw and next ?

    Yaaay Skartel or Gomez

    Naay

  21. Nascimento
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    It's all kicking off

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Not really

      1. Nascimento
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        It is in Syria

        1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          🙁

        2. Jafooli
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          😆

  22. Sid07
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Start
    1)azpi
    2)nyom

    1. Blame it on Traore
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Nyom

  23. shady4revr
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Any Changes? 🙂

    Butland
    Darmian Kolarov Gomez
    Payet Hazard(v) Sanchez Ritchie Mahrez
    Aguero Wilson

    McCarthy Deeney Naughton Richards
    ?

  24. foreverton
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    It's San(C)hez time. Aguero has given me no reason to captain him.

  25. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Preambleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee and it's done by Mark. Juuuuhuuuuuu 😀 😛

    1. Fitzy.
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Not the sharpest tool in the shed are you? 😆

      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Nope, just a tool

        1. Fitzy.
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          😀

  26. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Thanks Jonty great article.....

    1. Fitzy.
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Lol!! 😀

  27. Messiah Hazard
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Payet or Hoolahan?

  28. FISSH
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Why are people captaining aguero again? He hasn't looked in form for weeks, just coming back from an injury and playing West ham who haven't played mid week.

    1. FISSH
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      People will still be like aaaaah ffs if he blanks

    2. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Enjoy watching the game 😉

      1. FISSH
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        He won't explode. Not worried.

    3. Francescoli
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      the fear of not captaining kun.

    4. Jam0sh
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I think City will bounce back from Juve match. Definitely captaining Kun.

    5. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      530pm kick off. He loves those games

    6. Defcons are for Kinnear
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      All the ingredients for a big score

    7. Sverdet
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Who are you playing for captain?

      1. FISSH
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Mahrez

        1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          🙂

        2. Sverdet
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          I respect your courage!

    8. sweensa
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      His 4 goal haul last year out of the blue away to spurs is fresh in the memory. Still capable on any day of scoring 3 before being subbed off on the 60.

    9. kalmoffit
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I thought he'd got a few for Argentina.

  29. Buck The Trent
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Play Targett or Huth? Already starting Cedric

    1. Blame it on Traore
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Huth

    2. nibby
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Huth

      Mind helpin me out below?

    3. foreverton
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Targett ofcourse. SOU - MNU has 0-0 written all over it

  30. Eden Hazardous
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Casuals are lucky , they can live their lives 'normally'

    1. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      🙂 True that.

    2. money face bandwagon
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Be a casual then

      1. Adams6
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        It's not that easy.

    3. Gazpilicueta
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Lol I agree, my first season I was pretty casual, and I LOVED it.

      but now....who to captain? my armband is on Benteke.....is that bonkers?