[sbu_large_image] Preamble
19 September 2015 1764 comments
Mark Mark
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I’ve been observing the recent community discussion on “casual” Fantasy Football managers with interest.

Woeisme’s excellent recent article brought it further into focus and helped us digest the debate but, in my view, we’re treading over very familiar ground here.

The propensity to roll out the term “casual” and apply it liberally to a huge group of Fantasy Football managers, who have little interest in investing hours in their decision-making, is something that crops up almost every season.

It’s probably fair to say that the level of frustration being felt right now is greater than ever, hence the bile generated and aimed at this unfortunate group is perhaps more potent.

First of all, as Woeisme rightly pointed out, there’s little point in claiming that this “group” don’t exist.

There’s no doubt that the 3.5 million population of the FPL game includes an army of folk who pick a pre-season squad in a lunch hour, only revisiting it when their colleague at the water cooler remarks that they’re second in the mini-league.

That happens. It’s probably happened in thousands of offices and, the way this season is going, it will go on happening for some weeks.

Four years ago, I placed my tongue firmly in cheek and acknowledged this group of Fantasy Football Managers in this article. I’ve just read it back and it’s still relevant today.

Labelling the “casual” as “Part-time Petes”, I make no apology if I was disparaging to their cause and motivation – this was a piece glorying in Fantasy Football stereotypes and poking fun.

Some will doubtless say that by writing and drawing further attention to that article, I’m prolonging this mistreatment of the “casual” Fantasy Football manager.

That may well be the case but, in many ways, I think if we start becoming too sensitive to this kind of mirth, we’re starting to steal from the very essence that made the game fun in the first place.

Going back twenty years or more, Fantasy Football lived and breathed solely within a group of football fans, brought together by some numbers that appeared in a newspaper, distributed weekly by some poor soul who took it upon themselves to run the mini-league. I eagerly signed up for that position.

Just as folk back then aimed derisory terms my way by virtue of my number-crunching obsession, so I sniped back on their beermat transfer, hurried along whilst indulging in futile attempts at chatting up the receptionist.

There were clear divisions between the level of commitment and, when the points came in and those divisions didn’t quite work out as expected, the real fun began. While divided by our level of interest, we were brought together for a few minutes of ribbing each day by this “thing” called Fantasy Football.

That same “repartee” and “banter” goes on now, perhaps to a lesser degree face to face, but certainly via 140 characters or sly emails pinged across the office.

I try not to look upon those who choose not to spend three hours comparing Aston Villa full-backs with any disdain. Equally I don’t expect them to roll out the tired old “saddo” or “statto” moniker in my direction. I’m probably kidding myself on that score.

However, when the season begins and the early divide takes an unexpected turn, it would be a waste not to seize upon that opportunity to make hay.

I cut a miserable figure in the mid-table of my office league. Quite frankly, I expect to be on the receiving end when I face the guy who is winning the league: someone who is often too busy nursing a hangover on a Saturday morning to even know how important 11.45 is.

I’m not happy about it, but I’m quietly confident that I’m going make up ground and that by allocating 87% of my daily attention span to considering my transfers, I’ll eventually win out.

I can offer up a wry smile and revel in the fact that, for those brief moments, Fantasy Football in some way unites me with another football fan, albeit a very different one.

To some extent, on the site, we’re all brought together by a level of obsession and, as a result, an elitist view can build when looking upon those who don’t quite share that same obsession.

We should work to avoid that at all costs and instead glory in the fact that folk are different and that Fantasy Football can bring us together, whatever the level of investment, and provide a platform for “fun” and community.

This “casual” Fantasy manager exists and deserves their place in that bigger community and even their Gameweeks at the top of the mini-league. It’s a huge part of what makes Fantasy Football so compelling and the reason why I ended up here in the first place.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. mozza
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Surely 6caotain fails in a row isn't possible.... Is it?...

    1. mozza
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      * 6 captain

      1. athreya
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Only if you captain the same player than statistically you will succeed at some point. If you keep switching the armband to 38 different players then possible to have 38 fails!

    2. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I'd be happy with an assist at this stage

  2. 50 Shades Oshea
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    do people reckon pedro will play?

    start pedro or ozil?

    1. Reckoner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      If you're benching either of them something has gone wrong. Far too much value to leave out, injuries aside.

      1. 50 Shades Oshea
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Bringing ayew for wanyama due to an injury...

  3. Stuartalc
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Stupidly debating over Cathcart or bellerin?

    And should either of them be ahead of kone in the subs?

  4. 1966 was a great year for E…
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Have we had a leaked Liverpool team yet?

    1. ♤TeddyBear♤
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Word on the street is, 3 at the back. (which makes me worry about Gomez) probably Moreno.

      1. 1966 was a great year for E…
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        There's someone who gets the actual team sheet early, been right every time so far.

        Gomez is who I'm worried about too!

    2. #WinterIsNotComing
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Yes, Suarez to join them after 5 years and score in first game (own goal)

  5. mash
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Who would you play out of Bellerin (che) or Targett (MUN)? Both have been getting quite good BPS, but I feel United are less likely to score than Chelsea.

  6. Mohit20
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    mane (c)

    1. Milner4eva
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Wow

    2. Puyol Pants Up
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Could work tbh.

      1. Mohit20
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        shaw injured and mane can run through manu

  7. big_cliff
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    if you had to choose 2 out of these 3 long-term?

    A. Silva
    B. Sanchez
    C. Pedro

    1. Every Dog Has Its Day
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      AB

    2. JayLegend
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      AB all day long

    3. big_cliff
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Cheers boys

  8. fijuhmon
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    I'm going to Gomis -> Wilson to afford Pelle -> Benteke. Crazy?

    1. athreya
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Yeah. Wilson flatters to deceive. Pelle's stats aren't bad at all.

  9. Ógie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Early kick off 0-0?

    1. Les Bleus
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      1-0 Haz pen

  10. #WinterIsNotComing
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Why everyone is so keen on Wilson? and even Captaining him? :/

    1. Milner4eva
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      As an owner, I honestly don't know. Average player in an average team.

    2. Evasivo
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Bets form, easiest fixture, most consistent out the other choices. Why are you even asking? lol

    3. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      He scores goals unlike some strikers

  11. Evasivo
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    20 Mins until captaincy deadline! Squeaky bum time :/

    1. #WinterIsNotComing
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      finalized my team yesterday 🙂

      1. Evasivo
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Good man! My team's been set all week in terms of transfers. Just had the standard captaincy choice issues.

        1. #WinterIsNotComing
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Same here, still not sure on whether to go with Yaya or Costa :/

  12. Ups And Downs
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Sky game, one captain in Kun or two in Mahrez and Mane. Thanks

  13. King H
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Apparently Hendo has broken his foot in training

    1. Hooky
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Metal tassel?

    2. NATSTER
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      injured again ?

  14. Zero
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Bench one:

    A) Gomis vs Everton
    B) Vardy vs Stoke
    C) Sako vs Spurs

    1. Iceball
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      C

    2. Every Dog Has Its Day
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      A if you must. AOA?

      1. Zero
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        It is tempting... 🙂

    3. DannyBoy....
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      C

    4. Mary
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Vardy

    5. Evasivo
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      B for me

  15. Lizard Lips
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    (A) Ramsey
    (B) Cazorla

    1. Every Dog Has Its Day
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      B

    2. Zero
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Ramsey more of a goal threat, Cazorla is involved everywhere else. I'd lean to Cazorla

    3. Reckoner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      A) all day long, Cazorla just isn't a good fantasy asset

  16. foreverton
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Lukaku or Sanchez captain?

    1. Red Star Toro
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Sanchez

  17. The Mandalorian
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Fantasy football wouldn't be the same without our customary 4 point captaincy haul from Aguero.

    1. Van Klinkert Delarosa
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Hello friend.

    2. Fred54
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Be lucky mate, it might even be two again!

  18. Van Klinkert Delarosa
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    If Bony start along with Kun, that would be a kick to the teeth.

      1. Van Klinkert Delarosa
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        😎

  19. UKG
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Payet or Shaquiri? - Form over fixtures i Guess, Payet...

  20. JayLegend
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    United v Southampton, predicted scores?

    1. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      0-0

    2. Debauchy
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      1-1

    3. foreverton
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      0-0 or 1-0

  21. DannyBoy....
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    If Ivan is dropped today so we expect that to be it for him?

    Or will he come back in?

    1. Milner4eva
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      If dropped, Baba LB Azpi RB

      1. DannyBoy....
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Permanently or just the week?

        1. Milner4eva
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          No idea but that's how thy would line up I guess

          Gl with bojan, hope it pays off 😀

          1. DannyBoy....
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Cheers dude. I'm weirdly confident about it!

  22. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Ive never been so stressed out on deadline morning, trying to decide my captain. Went with the sensible decision

    1. Iceball
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Mahrez?

    2. Every Dog Has Its Day
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      With who? I'm stressing right now. My head is saying Sánchez but my gut is saying Yaya Touré.

    3. Fred54
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      TBF most GWs are like this. There's no lock in captain...

  23. U-jin King™
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Aaaguuuuueeeerrrrrrooooooo!!!!!

    1. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Will be hated as much as Walcott after today 🙂

  24. mp3692
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Sanchez or Coutinho this week?

  25. Jet5605
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Last minute help please

    Start 3 from these 5

    Darmian (sou)
    Williams (EVE)
    Dawson (avl)
    Richards (WBA)
    Nyom (new)

    1. Jafalad
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Damian, Williams and Dawson.

  26. Red Star Toro
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Kun to play 90 minutes?

    1. Eden Hazardous
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Yes imo

    2. Nazz
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      No

    3. Jafalad
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Expecting 60-70

    4. Greenbackbøøg…
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      no

  27. AIRMILES
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Any good betting offers on the Chelsea/arsenal game, aside from for new customers?

    1. Demí
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      "If Mourinho & Wenger shake hands at the end of the game BoyleSports will refund losing first/last/anytime goalscorer, correct score, and scorecast bets as a free bet up to £25."

      1. AIRMILES
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Hmm - chances of them shaking hands? They hate each other.

  28. Exiasyafiq
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Cech or Schmeichel ?

  29. Elfozzie 42
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Vascilating between Benteke, Mahrez and Aguero for captain's choice.
    Having backed Sergio for last few weeks I'm tempted to look elsewhere.
    Currently on Tekkers but considering Mahrez form that's probably mental, right?

    1. Debauchy
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Stick

    2. Sergeant Garcia
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      On Benteke myself atm.

  30. Jafalad
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Why all this obsession with the "casuals"?

    We all know what's going to happen so let's just get on with the business.

    Class will out, as they say.

    1. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      The cream always rises to the surface 😉

    2. Milner4eva
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Yep, (C)ech and Kompany (c) is simply not sustainable. Their teams will fall apart, and we will overtake them sooner or later.

      Quick question BTW jafa, play Myhill or Butland this week?

    3. Iceball
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      My wife has Lukaku captain always and is way ahead of me