[sbu_large_image] Preamble
19 September 2015 1764 comments
Mark Mark
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I’ve been observing the recent community discussion on “casual” Fantasy Football managers with interest.

Woeisme’s excellent recent article brought it further into focus and helped us digest the debate but, in my view, we’re treading over very familiar ground here.

The propensity to roll out the term “casual” and apply it liberally to a huge group of Fantasy Football managers, who have little interest in investing hours in their decision-making, is something that crops up almost every season.

It’s probably fair to say that the level of frustration being felt right now is greater than ever, hence the bile generated and aimed at this unfortunate group is perhaps more potent.

First of all, as Woeisme rightly pointed out, there’s little point in claiming that this “group” don’t exist.

There’s no doubt that the 3.5 million population of the FPL game includes an army of folk who pick a pre-season squad in a lunch hour, only revisiting it when their colleague at the water cooler remarks that they’re second in the mini-league.

That happens. It’s probably happened in thousands of offices and, the way this season is going, it will go on happening for some weeks.

Four years ago, I placed my tongue firmly in cheek and acknowledged this group of Fantasy Football Managers in this article. I’ve just read it back and it’s still relevant today.

Labelling the “casual” as “Part-time Petes”, I make no apology if I was disparaging to their cause and motivation – this was a piece glorying in Fantasy Football stereotypes and poking fun.

Some will doubtless say that by writing and drawing further attention to that article, I’m prolonging this mistreatment of the “casual” Fantasy Football manager.

That may well be the case but, in many ways, I think if we start becoming too sensitive to this kind of mirth, we’re starting to steal from the very essence that made the game fun in the first place.

Going back twenty years or more, Fantasy Football lived and breathed solely within a group of football fans, brought together by some numbers that appeared in a newspaper, distributed weekly by some poor soul who took it upon themselves to run the mini-league. I eagerly signed up for that position.

Just as folk back then aimed derisory terms my way by virtue of my number-crunching obsession, so I sniped back on their beermat transfer, hurried along whilst indulging in futile attempts at chatting up the receptionist.

There were clear divisions between the level of commitment and, when the points came in and those divisions didn’t quite work out as expected, the real fun began. While divided by our level of interest, we were brought together for a few minutes of ribbing each day by this “thing” called Fantasy Football.

That same “repartee” and “banter” goes on now, perhaps to a lesser degree face to face, but certainly via 140 characters or sly emails pinged across the office.

I try not to look upon those who choose not to spend three hours comparing Aston Villa full-backs with any disdain. Equally I don’t expect them to roll out the tired old “saddo” or “statto” moniker in my direction. I’m probably kidding myself on that score.

However, when the season begins and the early divide takes an unexpected turn, it would be a waste not to seize upon that opportunity to make hay.

I cut a miserable figure in the mid-table of my office league. Quite frankly, I expect to be on the receiving end when I face the guy who is winning the league: someone who is often too busy nursing a hangover on a Saturday morning to even know how important 11.45 is.

I’m not happy about it, but I’m quietly confident that I’m going make up ground and that by allocating 87% of my daily attention span to considering my transfers, I’ll eventually win out.

I can offer up a wry smile and revel in the fact that, for those brief moments, Fantasy Football in some way unites me with another football fan, albeit a very different one.

To some extent, on the site, we’re all brought together by a level of obsession and, as a result, an elitist view can build when looking upon those who don’t quite share that same obsession.

We should work to avoid that at all costs and instead glory in the fact that folk are different and that Fantasy Football can bring us together, whatever the level of investment, and provide a platform for “fun” and community.

This “casual” Fantasy manager exists and deserves their place in that bigger community and even their Gameweeks at the top of the mini-league. It’s a huge part of what makes Fantasy Football so compelling and the reason why I ended up here in the first place.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Heydudes13
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Will WBA score?

    1. Iceball
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      No

    2. Epic Fail
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Highly likely.

    3. ManUtdFan_UK
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Villa defence isn't great

      1. Jax
        11 years, 1 month ago

        either is WBA attack

    4. Weasel Boy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Yes

    5. Prøphet
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Iv made a bet it will be one goal or less in that game. Hopefully WBA scores and Myhill gets an assist. 😀

      1. Jazz!
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Or Myhill scores a goal kick

    6. DA Minnion (Former great)
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Hope not

    7. Debauchy
      11 years, 1 month ago

      No

    8. NATSTER
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Hope for 0 : 0 from that game.

    9. L P
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Yes

  2. ManUtdFan_UK
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Sorry, having a last minute wobble!

    To start:

    A) Payet (mci)

    B) Dawson (avl)

    C) Darmian (sou)

    I was on Darmian yesterday, then changed to dawson, now this morning I have Payet..! Oh dear.

    1. Hinchcliffe Thumper
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Dawson

    2. nkhoughton
      11 years, 1 month ago

      of the 3 i'd start Payet, might get lucky of a set piece. I can't imagine either of the defenders will keep a clean sheet, more likely to score/assist than a clean sheet i feel

  3. Primprong
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Who to play?

    Huth (stk)
    Azpi (ARS)
    Shelvey (EVE) "all out attack"

    1. ManUtdFan_UK
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Azpi

  4. NATSTER
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Should I put Pedro in the starting team just in case ?

    Ayew - Yaya - Sanchez - Mahrez (Pedro)
    Gomis - Wilson - Aguero

    If so, who should I drop?

    A: Ayew
    B: Gomis

    1. Numb
      11 years, 1 month ago

      No, I would bench Pedro out of those whether fit or not

      1. NATSTER
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks Numb. That injury actually made my life a bit easy.

    2. DT42
      11 years, 1 month ago

      I was about to ask exactly the same thing (with almost the same team)
      Drop;
      A. Ayew
      B. Gomis
      C. Barkley

      1. NATSTER
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Umm.. I think I will keep Pedro on the bench.

        1. DT42
          11 years, 1 month ago

          Let's both hope Pedro doesn't get a hattrick! Good luck

    3. OptimusBlack
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Gmois > Benteke

      1. NATSTER
        11 years, 1 month ago

        No FT left.

  5. OptimusBlack
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Gomis > Benteke (C) for free

    Yaay

    Naay

    1. Weasel Boy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Yes

    2. Hinchcliffe Thumper
      11 years, 1 month ago

      I said noo noo noo...

    3. Royal5
      11 years, 1 month ago

      No

    4. Debauchy
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Yes if C ,

    5. NATSTER
      11 years, 1 month ago

      I'd do that if you also have Ayew.

  6. mastertokalosh
    11 years, 1 month ago

    i have pedro and ramsay . I want to do ramseay to coutinho but is this foolish since pedro is not nailed on to start while ramsay is?

  7. FPL Daniel
    11 years, 1 month ago

    The climb begins. AOA played. Juuhuuuu

    1. Optimus.
      11 years, 1 month ago

      So you took my advice :wink;

      I played mine gw3 and it failed milserably 😀

    2. #WinterIsNotComing
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Saving chips for later stages of FPL. double GW

      1. FPL Daniel
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Pva got me 14 pts last double. AOA is not needed in double. Thanks OPtimus

  8. Jazz!
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Play Gomez or Darmian? Was set on Gomez but unsure Liverpool will keep a clean sheet and his start. I think United can keep a clean sheet as Southampton aren't the best attacking wise

    1. DF
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Can see nil nil in the saints devils game

  9. FPL Daniel
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Who to play Francis or Gomez?

    1. Francescoli
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Gomez

    2. Clump
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Francis. All day long.

  10. Qubit
    11 years, 1 month ago

    So, will this be the week my captain scores some points?

    1. Jazz!
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Depends who your captain is.

      1. Qubit
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Kun of course! 😉

    2. Pariße
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Who you got?

  11. Mumm-Ra
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Am i good to go?

    Butland (Myhill)
    Cedric Gomez Kolarov (Smith, Taylor)
    Pedro(if fit) Coutinho Silva Cabaye (Albrighton)
    Wilson Aguero (c) Benteke (vc)

    Thoughts?

  12. DV8R
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Is it weird to play an injured player just so points come off the bench?

    1. Fred54
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Are you doing this just to annoy your rivals?

      1. DV8R
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Yes. Play saylor, first sub Wilson

  13. OLEgend
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Score predictions for Astonvilla vs Westbrom pls?

    1. Luis Suarez Ate My Homework
      11 years, 1 month ago

      3-1 villa

      1. OLEgend
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Will it be a 0-0 🙂

    2. Dr Dream
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Impossible to say with derbies.

    3. Hinchcliffe Thumper
      11 years, 1 month ago

      0-0

    4. Prøphet
      11 years, 1 month ago

      0-0 or WBA win 1-0

      1. Jazz!
        11 years, 1 month ago

        This.

    5. Fred54
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Hopefully we Villa will score. Didn't replace Shaw with a WBA defender...gulp.

  14. ver_sparda
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Captain Sterling / Mahrez / Aguero?

  15. TekkersFC
    11 years, 1 month ago

    When we think teams will be out for the Chelsea game..? am a pedro owner :/

    1. THE Wild Rover
      11 years, 1 month ago

      10 seconds before deadline. Get that trigger finger ready 😉

      1. TekkersFC
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Haha will do 🙂

      2. Your Mum's Athletic
        11 years, 1 month ago

        2 seperate windows, transfer ready to confirm

  16. Faxof
    11 years, 1 month ago

    WC this week - too many options and my eyes have glazed over.

    DDG | (Schwarzer)
    Sagna | Gomez | Rojo | (Nyom Cédric)
    Sánchez | Mahrez | Sako | Yaya | (Hoolahan)
    Benteke | Kun | Wilson

    1.5 ITB

    gtg?

    1. Luis Suarez Ate My Homework
      11 years, 1 month ago

      I would say SOU df over MUN df this week but that's just me.

      Hoolahan good budget mf option. No Swansea?

    2. Neilio66
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Very similar to mine.

  17. DickFranDyke
    11 years, 1 month ago

    McCarthy or De Gea
    Both away to Spurs and Saints repectively.

    Think McCarthy might just pip DeGea

    1. THE Wild Rover
      11 years, 1 month ago

      DDG more likely cs I reckon

      1. DickFranDyke
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah,just trying to be different with the season were having. Where is Zhirkov when you need him.

  18. Bubz
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Both teams have scored in 16 of the last 20 Villa v WBA games...

    1. LE GOD(C)-AMERICAN DYCHO-(1…
      11 years, 1 month ago

      But Pulis

    2. Fred54
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Its usually a score draw too.

    3. NATSTER
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Hope for 0 : 0 this week.

  19. zzquack
    11 years, 1 month ago

    If you had to play one, which would you choose?
    Cedric or Mane?

    1. Debauchy
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Mane , easily

  20. Every Dog Has Its Day
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Captaincy check please. 🙂

    1. Ayew Serious
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Benteke

    2. Royal5
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Sanch

      1. Weasel Boy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 1 month ago

        That cos it's on tv?

        1. Royal5
          11 years, 1 month ago

          Lol, because Chelsea defense are in shambles and Sanchez has a huge chance to get points.

    3. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Still Sán(c)hez ...

      1. Every Dog Has Its Day
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Early KO's always disappoint me.

    4. Weasel Boy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Kun

      Reluctantly

    5. DF
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Coutihno

    6. Debauchy
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Benteke

    7. Kevtheotter
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Kun... For now

    8. Jazz!
      11 years, 1 month ago

      David Silva

    9. Rafinho
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Qn

    10. OLEgend
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Wilson

    11. E25
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Kun

  21. ST United
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Mahrez blank this week??

    LEI only scored 2 goals on the road so far...

    Stoke in Stoke still classed as a tough fixture??? Thoughts anyone

  22. FootballFanatic365
    11 years, 1 month ago

    GTG? cheers everyone

    Myhill

    Bellerín;;;Gomez;;;Kolarov

    Yaya;;;Ayew;;Barkley;;Sán(c)hez;;Mahrez

    Agüero;;Gomis

  23. keano
    11 years, 1 month ago

    McCarthy or butland?

  24. magnetsbitch
    11 years, 1 month ago

    how wud we kno by 2.40 if pedro is gonna play ?

  25. Neilio66
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Please RMWC

    ---------------Butland/Myhill--------
    Targett---Bellerin--Dawson--Sagna--Nyom
    -Sanchez--Payet--Ayew--Sako--Mahrez
    ----------Benteke---Agureo--Wilson

    1. Kendog
      11 years, 1 month ago

      8

  26. Fred54
    11 years, 1 month ago

    "I can offer up a wry smile and revel in the fact that, for those brief moments, Fantasy Football in some way unites me with another football fan, albeit a very different one."

    I think this is utterly true. I'm even getting trounced by my Aunt so far this season, but there's no way she would even have a fantasy football team if she didn't have an interest in football.

    1. Mark
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Can we get your Aunt posting her Scout Picks?

      1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 1 month ago

        😆

      2. Fred54
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Here's a link if anyone's interested:
        http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/2444417/history/

        She clocked onto double City defence and captaining defenders pretty quick!

  27. El Patron
    11 years, 1 month ago

    All out attack?

    Butland

    Francis Kolarov

    Depay Sanchez Mahrez Silva Ayew

    Aguero Wilson Bojan

  28. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Is Doos captaining Kun?

    1. Every Dog Has Its Day
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Alexis.

    2. Weasel Boy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Think he captained Sanchez last week as well

  29. #WinterIsNotComing
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Somehow, everyone seems to have forgotten the Captain Hazard!!!

    I remember before GW1, everyone here told me that it would be big big gamble not to pick him or other Chelsea players. Glad that didn't listen to anyone else.

  30. Quinny___
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Twitter rumours going about that Pedro and cahill start