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26 December 2015 2122 comments
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Stoke City and Manchester United look to serve up an antidote to our Christmas hangovers as they do battle at the Britannia Stadium. The Potters have tasted victory just once in four outings, while the Red Devils enter this match-up off the back of consecutive defeats to newly promoted outfits.

Despite ranking third for big chances (10) over the last four Gameweeks, Stoke notched just three goals across that stretch. Indeed, the Potters’ convincing victory over Manchester City looks to be an outlier, given that they were bested by Sunderland and Crystal Palace either side of that encounter. On the defensive end, Mark Hughes’ men have conceded four goals and the joint-least big chances (three) since Gameweek 14. However, Man United will draw encouragement from the fact their opponents also placed third for shots inside the box conceded (36).

Only three teams carded fewer goals (three) than Louis van Gaal’s outfit over the last four Gameweeks, while only Norwich City (eight) managed fewer shots on target (10). Even though they’ve embarked on one more road trip than half the field, Man United still rank fourth-bottom for attempts (88) in away matches, which bodes well for the hosts’ clean-sheet prospects. Conversely, they chart third for big chances (18) beyond Old Trafford, which suggests that a slight calibration could enhance their attacking output. Maybe dropping Wayne Rooney to the bench is that required tweak.

  1. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Rooney coming on

    1. HVT
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      • 15 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Good shout on Arnie/Bojan,
      Tho I did expect those guys to be involved.

      1. Bøwstring The Carp
        • 14 Years
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        GJ too 😉

        Shawcross also there but Stoke not getting many corners

  2. Jafooli
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    10 years, 2 months ago

    LVG signals to Roonpig.......second half will be on.

  3. Iceball
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    • 11 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Hard to watch this, Im a ManU fan with Butland in goal and Smalling

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      United fan who expected a performance like this and played Butland here 🙁

    2. Volley127
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Ditto.

  4. Slice of ham
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    10 years, 2 months ago

    Genuinely would love it if Mourinho went to United.

    Sure, he might get a few wins off the bat and win a trophy but in under two years from now we'd be looking at just another club that he destroyed and in complete disarray.

    1. The Algerian Dream
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Isn't United already in disarray?

      1. Slice of ham
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        They are, but I believe Jose could bring them to a whole new level of disarray. 🙂

        Tbh, United are a club crying out for stability. The recent turnover of managers just doesn't suit them whatsoever.

    2. Zizoulicious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      I think Mou could only improve from here...

      1. Slice of ham
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Short term, yeah.

    3. Cilly Bonnolly
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Where does hatred like that come from?

      1. Slice of ham
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Hatred? That's not hated. 😆

        1. Nascimento
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          Man utd want to believe they're hated. They desperately want it. Truth is much as I'm enjoying their demise they're just a brand and all the people following it will jump on the next bandwagon and turn another club into a brand.

          1. Slice of ham
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 2 months ago

            It isn't labelled as hatred when it happens to Chelsea, City or Arsenal. United fans always moaning.

        2. Cilly Bonnolly
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          10 years, 2 months ago

          Don't give us it. You sound like Kevin Keegan. "I would LOVE it..."

  5. Ayew Serious
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    10 years, 2 months ago

    Butland on 3 saves?, United must be playing well

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
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      Lobbing it straight to Butland...

    2. Trae44
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      They aren't

  6. Sz21
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    LVG motioned to Rooney..

    You are on at half time.

    1. Slice of ham
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Bringing that pace and energy off the bench.

  7. Mull
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Sub Mourinho on at half time.

  8. andy85wsm
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    • 15 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Am I wrong in saying at least 6 of the Stoke team get into the United team right now?

    Johnson, Pieters, Shawcross, Bojan, Shaqiri and Arnautovic.

    Sad state of affairs...

    1. Nascimento
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Consider how much that Man Utd team cost for a moment too

    2. Daniel Exeter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      I think this is the poorest I've seen

      There has been no "fight for the manager"

    3. HVT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Hughes at this rate 🙁

    4. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Pieters definitely.

      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        This.

    5. Bøwstring The Carp
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Butland too imo

      1. Slice of ham
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        10 years, 2 months ago

        lol

      2. andy85wsm
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        Well I'm not sure I'd be dropping De Gea.

        De Gea

        Johnson Smalling Shawcross Pieters

        Carrick Afellay

        Shaqiri Bojan Arnie

        Martial

        Something like that. Even Martial is pushing it.

        1. Arvin-ation
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          • 12 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          Affelay?!?

          Schneiderlin just needs to be played.

          1. andy85wsm
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            • 15 Years
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            Yeah agreed. Was just doing on players starting really.

            It's not like I think the plan is to go out and buy all Stoke players 🙂

    6. Granville
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      I don't think many of them are better than our players, the problems lie elsewhere. I'd take Shaqiri ahead of Depay for sure.

      1. andy85wsm
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        • 15 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Long term maybe not but as of right now they're outplaying us hands down.

    7. SW6
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      They wouldn't be in good from if they played for Utd though

      1. Granville
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        • 16 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        exactly

    8. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Do you still have our pre-season convo bookmarked? 😉

      1. andy85wsm
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        10 years, 2 months ago

        I think so - at work at least

        1. Wilshere Knowledge
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          😉

  9. Nascimento
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    10 years, 2 months ago

    Do Man Utd fans still exist?

    1. Sif
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      I saw one sneaking into the Leicester club shop the other day.

      1. Nascimento
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        😆

        Too many went too early and headed Chelsea's way. Would imagine they're regretting that

        1. Granville
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          What on earth are you on about?

          1. Mr. Grv
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 2 months ago

            Just ignore

            1. Nascimento
              • 10 Years
              10 years, 2 months ago

              You've never set foot in England, let alone Manchester. I'd rather you ignore

          2. Nascimento
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 2 months ago

            I mean no offence to you, Granville but many that were Man Utd fans a couple of years back, aren't anymore. 'This much we know'

  10. Daniel Exeter
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Okay

    Forget Mourinho - who actually is available now?
    Is there actually anyone?

    1. Bubz
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Moyeseh

    2. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      I am

    3. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      They need a younger manager to build

    4. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Dr Josef Venglos

  11. Tim Canterbury
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Rooney coming on for afro

  12. Chenku╰☆╮
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Not sure even mou can turn this team around... no spirit...only fellani looks like he wants to do something even if it is drawing fouls..

  13. Captain Vantastic™
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    • 14 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Butland on 4 saves?

    1. Bubz
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      3

    2. Jax
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      3

    3. Yankee Toffee
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      should be 4 with that last Mata cross/shot

    4. Captain Vantastic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Ta

  14. DA Minnion (Former great)
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    That's a very poor United team.fellani would be better suited to a walking race.

  15. SW6
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    How long will we have to listen to debate and stories about Utd's 'crisis'? They're time has gone and is never coming back

    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Aye it's not a crisis. They are just a normal team.

    2. Mull
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      As long as they have 100s of millions to spend they'll be up there.

    3. King Kav. QC at law
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      About the same amount of time I have to read comments like this.

    4. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      This

      Seems a simple case of not good enough players

      Not one of them would get in city or Arsenal's team

      Although they have so much earning power and money they will always come again

    5. Slice of ham
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      They have so much money, they will always be a big team while the money is around.

    6. Futbol Heritage
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      LOL 😀

  16. Yankee Toffee
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Next week Hiddink vs. who? Giggs?

    CHE and MU in shambles...LEI top of the league...mental

    1. King Kav. QC at law
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      I hope it's Giggs. It'll be hilarious.

      1. Yankee Toffee
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Would be.

  17. super zlatan
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    I know I'm stating the obvious but United are shyte

    1. King Kav. QC at law
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      It's raining.

    1. Mull
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      BREAKING: Footballers laugh at joke.

      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        😀

  18. ★Kuntheman★
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Would you keep Smalling if Mourinho comes in?

    1. andy85wsm
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      10 years, 2 months ago

      Yup. Although he might be a decent Aguero makeweight next week

    2. Jax
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      awful pick anyway

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Yeah I'm thinking of bringing in Monreal for him

  19. DA Minnion (Former great)
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    When you have an opponent that makes Glen whelan look good you know you're in bother.

  20. Eden Hazardous
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    I Read an article recently which said that any player joining Manchester United would produce 68% of his shot output at other clubs

    #filoshofee

  21. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Mourinho to come out as Utd manager for the 2nd half?

    1. Jax
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      yeah!!!!!!!!

    2. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      He's definitely in the closet.

  22. Davido989
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    Quality assist from Depay.

    1. Gooner97
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      10 years, 2 months ago

      Worth all the pounds

    2. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      That was absolutely dreadful 🙁

  23. Daaf
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    In the cup who wins?

    A: DDG, Dann, Sagna, Mahrez, Silva, Lukaku, Kane

    B: Gomes, Dier, Kolarov, Smalling, Wijnaldum, Barkley, Giroud

    1. Epic Fail
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      10 years, 2 months ago

      Whoever gets most points.

      1. Daaf
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        epic fail

    2. King Kav. QC at law
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Opponent.

  24. Davido989
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Mourinho is just gonna come in and wave his magic wand at a club with no clear plan. Yep.

  25. ★Kuntheman★
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    I honestly feel that if United gave Moyes some more time they'd be in a better position.

    1. Mr. Grv
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      I don't think so

    2. SW6
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      The root of Utd's problems comes from the end of Ferguson's time, nothing Moyes or LvG could do to stop it

      1. Emp
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        lvg has spent a quarter of a million ! 😮

        1. Morbius
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          Billion?

  26. Del Monte
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Do Utd have the balls to get Mourinho?

    I just don't understand what LvG has done....

    Why do we only have 1 RB? Young & Valencia are not defenders.
    Why do we only have 2 CB's? Rio, Vidic & Evans all left in the last 18 months and were never replaced.
    Why is Mata now a right winger? He's a no. 10 through and through.
    Why do we have no wingers?
    Why is a 20 year old kid leading the line? Why were RvP and Hernandez not replaced with someone with PL experience?

  27. Leaf
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    That was awful attempted block for Arnies goal , think it was Depay