[sbu_large_image] Dugout Discussion
2 January 2016 1759 comments
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West Ham and Liverpool beckon in the New Year with a showdown at the Boelyn Ground. The Hammers snapped their eight-match winless streak with a home win against Southampton last time out, while the Reds have rebounded from their 3-0 defeat at Watford with back-to-back 1-0 victories.

Despite tallying a modest a modest goal-haul (four), Liverpool ranked top for attempts (83), top for key passes (66), joint-second for shots inside the box (42) and third for shots on target (22) across the previous four Gameweeks – underlining their poor finishing. Similarly, the Merseysiders conceded the fewest shots inside the box (16) and just four big chances during that period, yet their defence was still breached on five occasions.

West Ham charted joint-fourth for shots inside the box (35), joint-fifth for key passes (41) and joint-fifth for shots on target (19) over the last four Gameweeks but have just three goals to show for their efforts. From a defensive standpoint, only Crystal Palace conceded fewer goals (one) than the Irons, yet Slaven Bilic’s troops still allowed the fifth-most shots inside the box (37), offering encouragement for the visitors’ array of attacking talent.

  1. Venom Snake
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Don't understand why Coutinho gets wasted out on the left

    1. Eden Hazardous
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      He is an average player when he shoots so much from outside the box. Shouldn't even start imo

      1. Davido989
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Another silly comment from you

        1. Eden Hazardous
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Watch the matches please. He wastes so much possession. Last year it was ok but this season , he has been terrible in his shooting

          1. Davido989
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            You're telling me to watch matches..(?)

            Saying he shouldn't even start is a silly comment. Whether you rate him or not.

            1. Eden Hazardous
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 3 months ago

              OK , that's your opinion but Lallana is better than a Coutinho who shoots SO MUCH!!!

              1. Eden Hazardous
                • 11 Years
                10 years, 3 months ago

                imo

        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        He has the ability but needs to use his brain.

        1. Eden Hazardous
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Yup , I agree with this

      2. Venom Snake
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Most creative player in the team. Needs to be playing centrally sliding the ball in behind for out wingmen/forward

      3. djenzio
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        go away

      4. Bøwstring The Carp
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Overrated imo, inconsistent and makes the simple things look strenuous

        Good player, but absolutely laughable a while back when there was talk of Barcelona after him...

        1. Eden Hazardous
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          This^

          Shoot less from outside the box and he is a good player but not when he plays like this

          1. Bøwstring The Carp
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            I agree though that he's wasted on the left, needs to be central and playing close to the striker to overlap or feed through balls. Wouldn't put the likes of him and Benteke together.

            A fit Sturridge though.... yes

          2. Davido989
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            You just said he's an average player now a good player

            1. Eden Hazardous
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 3 months ago

              I said he is an average players when and I quote "he shoots so much from outside the box."

            2. Bøwstring The Carp
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 3 months ago

              "He is an average player when he shoots so much from outside the box"

              When he's not doing that he's good

              1. Davido989
                • 15 Years
                10 years, 3 months ago

                Most of his goals come outside of the box, though.

                1. Eden Hazardous
                  • 11 Years
                  10 years, 3 months ago

                  5 goals last season and he must have taken 100 attempts at goal ffs

                  He should stop taking so many shots , its not worth it. I would rather he scores 0 goals and assists 10-15

                2. Bøwstring The Carp
                  • 14 Years
                  10 years, 3 months ago

                  Surely his conversion of shots outside the box to goals must be poor though

                  He's not Bale at the end of the day, he's creative when at his best

                  1. The Raging Bull
                    • 12 Years
                    10 years, 3 months ago

                    As a player Coutinho should have figured out by now his range is not from outside the box as he misses so many, so why not shoot from inside the box?

                    I've always questioned his game intelligence.

                    1. Bøwstring The Carp
                      • 14 Years
                      10 years, 3 months ago

                      He's probably of a mentality that thinks "I've scored from here once so I can do it again" 😕

                      1. The Raging Bull
                        • 12 Years
                        10 years, 3 months ago

                        Klopp's Dortmund rarely shoot from outside the box. If you see the two goals Coutinho scored against Chelsea, from memory they were from inside the box.

                        Why is Coutinho still shooting from outside the box which is not the Klopp way.

                3. Somalion
                  • 16 Years
                  10 years, 3 months ago

                  I do believe he needs to stop those attempts tbh.

                  When they come off they're cracking, but how many shots does he take to score one? It's just handing possession back to the opposition. Pool need to have him focus on creating.

                  1. The Raging Bull
                    • 12 Years
                    10 years, 3 months ago

                    Agree there. He is not a playmaker like Silva. He creates chances but needs mobile strikers ahead of him.

      5. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        He is the ultimate wasteful player

        1. ry ry
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Liverpool are channeling the spirit of Glenn 'ineffectual shot from 30 yards out' Johnson.

      6. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Should start, but I agree on the shooting. He does it every season, scores a nice goal and then goes on a run where he shoots from outside the box at every opportune moment. Someone needs to beat it out of him.

    2. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Can't play the 8 in a 4231 and he isn't a number 10

      1. djenzio
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        yeah I think he needs to drop deeper, his vision is unreal and would be much more effective

    3. Woy of the Wovers
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      So he can cut in and shoot one of his magnificent SoT

    4. Gravless wonder
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      He was amazing at through balls in his first season. Now he just wants to cut in and shoot. Not enough movement ahead of him

    5. Prøphet
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      I dont rate COU high as a player, but in any case i can see why people think he is wasted on the flank. The issue actually is, in my eyes, that Firmino isnt performing even close to the level from Hofenhaim. He carried that team by himself. If he starts playing like he did last year, then Cout can be wherever else because Firm will draw most attention. I do believe they can both play off Benteke and staying inside and leave the flanks to Moreno and CLyne. Just my 0.02c

      1. djenzio
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Firm's off the ball gone is unreal. not something most people pick up on but his pressing and work rate off the ball is insane, he has potential and is improving.

        1. The Raging Bull
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          I disagree, I think his work rate has been poor since he joined Pool. Think his attitude stinks. Just my opinion.

          I've watched every single minute Firmino has been on the pitch this season.

  2. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Score check? 0 from 0....

    Looking good so far...

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      0 from 0 on the pitch

      Just Cresswell on the bench 🙂

    2. Woy of the Wovers
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      2 from 2. Lol @ you

      1. Bøwstring The Carp
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        🙁

    3. Zombie
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      That's great indeed mate...None of your players have blanked so far!

    4. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      2 from 2

    5. Van der Faart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Ye red arrow for me looking likely according to FFfix. 0 from 0. So frustrating

    6. Milner4eva
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      0 from 0, Moreno benched

      Pretty happy, or at least I will be when Özil confirmed as starting

    7. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      1 from 1 🙁

    8. Sz21
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      1 from 1..

      Ever the optimist.. I am pleased with how well Moreno is getting forward.
      But unlucky with the goal.
      That's a free kick 9 times out of 10.

      Hoping he does some damage still.

  3. A.T
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    How long is half time?

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      15 mins

      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Source?

    2. Woy of the Wovers
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      45 minutes

      1. Alittude
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        75 minutes

    3. Zombie
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Half of the full time?

      1. A.T
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        How long between the end of the first to the start of the second?

        1. Jazz!
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          15mins

        2. Zombie
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          That would be one-third of the start of first to the end of first - extra time

    4. A.T
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Thanks all.

  4. mranonymous
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Will Adam Smith keep his starting spot at Bournmouth for the foreseeable future?

    1. pundit of punts
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      No.

      He'll be out of the tea once Elphick is back.

      Dunno why people have been buying him lately.

      1. mranonymous
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Thanks man. I'm after 2 cheap defenders mostly for bench. I'm currently on Simpson but struggling with which other one to pick.

        1. pundit of punts
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Bennett from Norwich.

    2. Paul Psychic Octopus
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Elphick will replace him when he's back from an ankle injury, just not sure when that will be.

      1. JoeJitzu +42
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Not entirely convinced of this, Smith has been excellent since coming in and think Elphink will have to prove himself to get back in!

  5. Rusty Nail
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Guy Demel playing for Dundee

    1. Rusty Nail
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Utd that is

  6. Davido989
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Whether that was a foul or not on Moreno, how is Antonio allowed to run 90 yards and score without being challenged? Lucas and Benteke have been atrocious

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      🙁

    2. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Michael Owen - " Morenio"

      1. Greenbackbøøg…
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Don't forget the elusive Firminho

        1. Fifa las vegas
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          I actually thought it was that 😳

    3. djenzio
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      yep. and Moreno should be getting up faster and tracking back.

    4. Gravless wonder
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Agree. There were multiple opportunities to stop the move or even foul someone

    5. Prøphet
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      I would say Clyne and Mignolet generally have been awful. Cant actually point who is bad or good, since everyone is in the same zone of badness

  7. John t penguin
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Other than
    Bentley inability to control a ball, take men on, pass the ball
    Firmino seeming to have no clue how to play football, pass a ball, and wanting five minutes to control a ball
    Coutinho thinking football is all about beating three men and shooting from 30 yards
    Lucas being 10 sec behind every move or tackle
    Ibe having no ability to track back
    Klopp seeming to think praising the poor play rather than changing tactics to stop WHU breaking in numbers
    Centre halves who are scared to tackle or attack the ball
    Liverpool have played well.
    Don't see any need to bring lallana off the bench to try and showboat every move.

    1. Greenbackbøøg…
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Who is Bentley

      1. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        He has a good engine

      2. John t penguin
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Big guy up front with his name spelt wrong on shirt

        1. Greenbackbøøg…
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Don't forget the fact he can;t win a header

          1. John t penguin
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            There is that also

        2. Ziro Becomes One
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          I read somewhere dogs are colour-blind. Must be true then. 😛

      3. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Came out of retirement for this match.

    2. Ziro Becomes One
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Bentley?

      1. John t penguin
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        No happy with my fiat thanks

  8. KOLASINA(C)
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Ozil's EO is 152.9, holy broccoli...

    1. C_G
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      3 pointer

    2. Sz21
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Most of my rivals didn't bother captaining him so I am hoping he bangs in a hat trick to go along with his trademark assist..
      EO won't bother me much then.

    3. Slice of ham
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Don't know what that means and I don't really care tbh

    4. Shakshuka
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      If someone gets over 200%, captainers will hope they blank right?

    5. Fifa las vegas
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      What the Fck is that?

  9. Chucky
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Clyne to Azpili done

  10. Make United Great Again
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Liverpool aren't worth FPL investment. Way too inconsistent.

    1. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Yup, solved Moreno after two cleanies

    2. A.T
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      I'm getting Sturridge soon. Best striker in the league.

      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Best dancer too.

        1. A.T
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          That's the icing on the cake if you captain him 🙂

          1. Epic Fail
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            Ha it actually is. I may have to bring him in for this reason alone. 😀

      2. Dukes of Hazard
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Haha. Aguero.

        1. A.T
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Apart from Aguero he's easily the best

    3. Greenbackbøøg…
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Moreno > Daniels looks on the cards

      1. Paul Psychic Octopus
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Thinking Moreno > A. Williams

      2. Rusty Nail
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        No thanks can do a lot better than daniels

        1. Greenbackbøøg…
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Nailed on in a decent team and he's on penalties, the cheap Baines

    4. Somalion
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      I'll have to ditch Moreno soon, thought he'd get more attacking returns.

  11. Sailboats
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Triggerlips played Moreno and Lovern

    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      So?

      1. Every Dog Has Its Day
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        we can conclude that water is wet.

      2. Zombie
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        So it just proves that people are obsessed about him

        1. Sailboats
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Nah, just wanted to lol @ him

    2. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Always thought that was madness, double up defensively on an ever inconsistent and leaky Liverpool defence

      1. djenzio
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Liverpool's defence has been good all season, decent amount of CS and Migs has most CS in 2015

    3. Chucky
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      lol@him

    4. The Mandalorian
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Explains why he is having a poor season

  12. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Lallana against tired legs

    60 mins.

  13. Every Dog Has Its Day
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    For lineups - https://twitter.com/premierleague/lists/premier-league-clubs

    (Parm showed me this last week)

    1. Zombie
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Bookmark it...they update the list each year. Very handy for scores as well if you like twitter more than apps

    2. how now brown cow
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Link not working for me

    3. Ziro Becomes One
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Thanks Parm.

      Err.. too early.

  14. Venom Snake
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Anyone else captain Mahrez?9

    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      More than 9 I would have thought.

  15. boc610
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    rodgers buying tekkers reeked of desperation and klopp paying for it now

  16. how now brown cow
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    3.3% of captains are in this match?

    1. Eden Azzzar
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Coutinho??

  17. Ayew Holding Mee Cork
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Who is the better footballer at this point? Rooney or Benteke?

    1. Eden Hazardous
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Benteke obvio

    2. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Rooney

    3. Fifa las vegas
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Definitely Rooney. Always has been really, two totally different styles though.

  18. F_Ivanovic
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    So I bought Payet and played him today optimistic he would start.... benched Deeney as a result so I really hope he doesn't come off the bench now! Hopefully he'll play some of FA cup and be fit for Bournemouth

    My H2H opponent has benched Mahrez..... and I've captained him. Could be fun!

    1. Dukes of Hazard
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      He benched mahrez?

      1. F_Ivanovic
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Yup....he's quite good at FPL too, so a v strange decision!

        Ozil/Arnie/KDB/Ramsey
        Lukaku/Kane/Deeney

        were his front 8 he played instead. I'd have benched Ramsey if I was him!

        1. Dukes of Hazard
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Or deeney being the other obvious choice.

  19. Your Mum's Athletic
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    @FPLPriceChanges 2m2 minutes ago

    No Ozil

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Nice

    2. Venom Snake
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Scenes

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Hope for a cameo. This is my gw

    3. Eden Hazardous
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      What?!

    4. DV8R
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      lol

    5. The Chosen One...
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Who even is he?

    6. DanwiseTheBrave
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      This was bound to happen, Mahrez(vc)

  20. Every Dog Has Its Day
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Hopefully Cresswell can do me the business. 🙂

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      On my bench

      1. Springbank
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Same here. Hopefully Sagna is a no show!

        1. Ayew Serious
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Can't see any of my defenders not playing

          Monreal again maybe?

  21. Laporte In A Storm
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    That injury really interrupted Coutinho. He's getting shipped this week (unless he scores a hattrick in the next 45)

    1. The Gambler.
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Same

  22. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Antonio nailed on..? Really tempted. Such a goal threat

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Not with Payet lurking

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Best 5th midfielder no?

        1. Ayew Serious
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          I have no idea

    2. Springbank
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Wait and see lanzini injury extends. Otherwise yes

  23. Springbank
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Aubameyang in January pleaaase! Benteke totally doesnt suit our style of play

    1. Eden Azzzar
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      To pool he wants to go to at team where he can score goals

      Not hating though

      1. Springbank
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Ha. Don't worry dude being a pool supporter I'm used to banter 🙂

    2. Greenbackbøøg…
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      No way he'll go to pool

  24. Royal5
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Not a lot of firepower in that Pool bench 😆

  25. The Gambler.
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    So Moreno and Coutinho fail so far

  26. Your Mum's Athletic
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    @FPLPriceChanges 48s49 seconds ago

    ....In 19.5% of teams (overall)

    What a tease

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      😆

    2. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Too late, I already kicked the dog

    3. Hypnos
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      thanks for that

  27. C_G
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Cmon Cresswell, 15-20 mins more, lock that CS and get subbed

  28. Your Mum's Athletic
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    #mufc XI vs Swansea: De Gea, Young, Jones, Smalling, Blind; Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Herrera; Mata, Rooney, Martial

    1. Ziro Becomes One
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Schneidelin.!!

      DeGea CS locked in then. 😎

    2. Arvin-ation
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Was going to bring in Darmian this week but missed out on doing it as it was 11.45 😀

  29. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    If Lanzini is out for a bit then Antonio ahould get a few more starts