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With the Brazilian duo of Roberto Firmino and Philippe Coutinho, along with Adam Lallana, the Liverpool midfield was already full of attacking intent last season.

With Sadio Mane recruited from Southampton and Georginio Wijnaldum drafted in from Newcastle, Fantasy managers face an even tougher choice when selecting from Liverpool’s crowded list of midfielders.

With this in mind, we asked our team of contributors the “Burning Question” – “Which of Jurgen Klopp’s midfield assets warrant investment?”

“Dufflinks” aka Simon March (2014/15 FPL Champion) says…

Maybe it’s because I’ve been burned several seasons running by Liverpool midfielders (my Coutinho and Firmino double Gameweek double up last season was a notable disaster), but none of Liverpool’s players fill me with confidence this season.

Their opening fixtures don’t help their cause but, inevitably, somebody will emerge with form to tempt the good ship that is my Fantasy team towards the jagged rocks of red-arrow oblivion.

Or maybe this year it’ll be different. Firmino might play up front and Coutinho looks good value at 8.0. Then there’s Sadio ‘not another hat-trick?’ Mane to think about.

The problem is, whichever I chose, I’m pretty certain I’ll be choosing be the wrong one. That’s really the challenge; there’s too little to pick between them at the moment and, meanwhile, there’s plenty of comparable and, arguably, safer options to look at elsewhere.

So the short answer is that, for all the undeniable quality and potential in Liverpool’s midfield, a player would have to emerge as a really compelling and consistent option before I can bring myself to look in that direction again.

Mark says…

It’s fortunate that Liverpool’s fixtures are so unappealing early on – that should give us the opportunity to assess matters further before being lured to invest in Klopp’s midfield.

My love/hate relationship with Mane is well known on these pages and inevitably my heart is screaming to side with the Senegalese.

Meanwhile, my head will urge me to play safe and stick with Firmino. He’s the option most likely to be backed by Klopp and a player who could find himself spearheading the Liverpool attack as a false nine – that’s certainly been the case in pre-season.

With 0.5 in change, it seems obvious to opt for the Brazilian, although Mane’s tendency to explode goals remains a nagging concern.

Elsewhere, both Wijnaldum and Countinho cloud the issue further.

Much as I’d like Coutinho’s class to translate to emphatic Fantasy returns, I fear he’ll be reduced to providing the probing passes that go unrewarded, relying on numerous improbable strikes from range to keep his tally ticking.

Firmino ahead of the Gameweek 6 clash with Hull, looks the likely route. I only hope that a slow start will keep his price grounded and that Mane’s output to that point doesn’t turn my head further.

Jonty says…

In my view there are just three main protagonists in the Liverpool midfield, each offering something different depending on your style of Fantasy management.

For the “dullards” amongst us there is Firmino: a known favourite of Klopp who looks the most nailed on of the midfield.

He also has a strong debut season under his belt, accruing 155 points even though it took him around two months to cement himself in the side.

His ten goals, eight assists and 18 FPL bonus points last term also show his game offers broad points potential. It will come as no surprise to reveal that this ‘Steady Eddy’ of Klopp’s unit is this dullard’s top Liverpool midfield target.

For the Maverick there is a Mane. He’s incredibly frustrating and inconsistent, but his explosive potential is tailor made for the risk taking Fantasy manager.

Take last season for example. After failing to score in the Premier League for four months he went on a sensational and unexpected scoring run that included a brace against Liverpool and a hat-trick against Manchester City.

Finally, for the stats obsessives, Coutinho offers a third route.

Last season no other midfielder had more goal attempts than his tally of 111. But with just eight goals from this effort he is a goal explosion that may never arrive.

Paul says…

Roberto Firmino.

I reckon Wijnaldum’s potential will be somewhat diminished by his ability to play in a deeper central midfield role, whilst Coutinho’s underlying numbers will always flatter to deceive – essentially, this is a player who has scored 4.9% and 7.2% of his chances in the last two seasons and lacks a cutting edge.

This leaves Firmino and Sadio Mane as my favoured Liverpool midfield options. Whilst both are versatile enough to play as a “false nine” or in the attacking midfield positions, I simply feel that Firmino is a class above the summer signing from Southampton.

The Brazilian’s output with Klopp in charge underlines his capabilities.

Firmino averaged 5.8 points per match under the German’s guidance last season and, despite Liverpool’s tricky opening schedule, it’s worth bearing in mind that the former Hoffenheim man picked up returns against the likes of Chelsea, Leicester, Man City and Arsenal amongst others in 2015/16.

A player of that calibre, with such fixture-proof potential and priced relatively kindly at 8.5, looks irresistible.

Spencer says…

Some of Klopp’s games last season where a joy to watch, with aggression, directness, and attacking intent all key to Liverpool’s play. With a raft of new acquisitions the German has firmly cemented his ethos in the side and there are high hopes for this season.

Amongst their midfielders, Firmino certainly looks the best option.

He was Liverpool’s top goal scorer last season and has shown the magic that he can produce on the pitch. Added to that, some impressive outings as a false nine position further cement his appeal.

Coutinho has often produced impressive underlying statistics, but his end product has been lacking. The key question is whether Klopp get some consistency from the young Brazilian and whether that will translate to Fantasy points returns.

Meanwhile, Lallana has also shone under Klopp. One could argue that the former Southampton midfielder has played his best football at Liverpool during his tenure. But his starting role has never looked assured since arriving at Anfield.

Then we have the new signings – Mane and Wijnaldum. Both have similar statistics (11 goals and six and five assists respectively) and could yet emerge as strong options under Klopp.

Lack of European competition should ease rotation fears, but it could also breed discontent as those left on the bench become increasingly unsatisfied with their lack of game time.

Fixtures are also tough early on but I don’t think this will hinder Liverpool. They played exceptionally well against many so called bigger sides last season.

As soon as it becomes clear which midfielder is most assured of starts and demonstrates consistency, they are heading straight for my squad.

Applebonkers says…

This is a very interesting one, as are Liverpool as a whole with Klopp’s feet now fully under the table and no European distractions.

Firmino was a quiet colossus once he broke into the side properly and there’s no reason why at 24 he can’t push on even more.

Hamstring injuries and the Europa League kept Coutinho away from blue-star status but there were actually signs of a consistent FPL points scorer developing.

Mane is too mercurial to predict, he may also be more prone to bench-time with Lallana lurking.

Then there’s the dishwater duo of Milner and Henderson. They will play too deep with Milner expected to fill in at left-back and, thanks to Emre Can and Wijnaldum, there’s just too much competition for places.

I’ve got a good feeling about Liverpool this season, I think they’ll overwhelm a lot of sides and rack-up some big wins. Like hairy conjoined twins prepping for the beach, two Brazilians could be the answer here.

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  1. Net Gains
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    How's this lot for a front seven?

    Hazard Mahrez Lamela Townsend

    Aguero Vardy Gray

    1. KISSES
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Im ot sold on Lamela, looks good though

    2. BabyB
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Similar to mine. I like it.

    3. Numb
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Too much Leicester

      1. Net Gains
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Fair enough, which change would you make?

    4. tom l
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      vardy -rooney
      lamela-erics/ali
      +spare cash

    5. Lestat
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      no Ibrahim

  2. KISSES
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Terry 100% nailed to start? No European football either so will get good recuperation in between games, resting cup games?

    1. oghash
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I'd wait and see, he got injured today. His heel I think

  3. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Lit

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      You're team is lit *multiple fire emoticons*

      1. Ayew Serious
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        *your

      2. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks

        Foster, Jakupovic.
        Valencia, Cédric, Evans, Chambers, Kingsley.
        Sánchez, Hazard, Redmond, Bojan, Capoue.
        Agüero, Kane, Gray.

        1. Ayew Serious
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          Sanchez didn't look lit enough today for me to get him

          1. Parm
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 1 month ago

            Will be pretty lit on Sunday though.

            1. Ayew Serious
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 1 month ago

              Mane will outlit him

              1. Jazz!
                • 11 Years
                10 years, 1 month ago

                This. 😎

        2. Jazz!
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          Finally I see someone with Cedric. Tops baseline BAPS and had a really solid Euros, can see him doing very well.

          1. Ayew Serious
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 1 month ago

            Pied and Martina not worrying?
            Especially since Cedric hasn't had much of a pre season

            1. Jazz!
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 1 month ago

              Martina is completely out of the equation, don't see him coming near the RB spot.

              Pied, perhaps. Everyone on the Saints forums are predicting Cedric to start though, not seen one with Pied.

    2. Epic Fail
      • 16 Years
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      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
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  4. JAC THE CAT
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    I think I will be abandoning my 2 X 6.5 forwards plan!

    It's now between Kane and Vardy

    1. MoeZe3bi
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      why not ibra?

    2. BabyB
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I keep going round I circles but just can't look past how bad hull are..

      1. Kante Be Bothered
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        everybody will get their chance to play hull

    3. Dynamic Duos
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      i also abandoned that plan.

      Kane Kun Negredo im going.

      so Kane.

    4. _Freddo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Vardy GW1, Kane GW2, Zlatan GW3 (if he convinces) WC and commit to the long term GW4.

      Will need to get the rest of the side locked in and hope for no injuries though.

    5. st4rt__
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Two upfront. Aguero - Vardy. I'll leave Kane till 'Bele is back.

  5. BB-8
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    A. Firmino Alli Vardy
    B. Mahrez Redmond Ibra
    C. Mahrez Redmond Kane + .5

    1. Coaly
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      A

    2. Swans4life
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      A

  6. Dynamic Duos
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    hazard or oscar?

    1. MoeZe3bi
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      What? definitely hazard!

    2. Epic Fail
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Hazard is in most RMTs

  7. Paramaribo
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    What would you improve?

    Schmeichel - Jakupovic
    Shaw - Terry - Souare - McAuley - Smith
    Mahrez - Hazard - Townsend - Fischer - Fletcher
    Aguero - Ibrahimovic - Long

    1. Rafa is a Geordie
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Solid squad

      1. Paramaribo
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks. I was thinking of downgrading Schmeichel to Foster but I see no way to use better these 0.5.

        1. Paramaribo
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          Foster or another 4.5 goalkeeper I mean. As Foster would not be adequate to keep with Fischer and Townsend playing against them in the first gameweeks.

  8. Cecil The Lion
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    So is Souare nailed?

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Not quite. He's first choice and it's very unlikely he'll lose his place

      1. Cecil The Lion
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers

  9. Loðbrók
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Toughts on Llorente? Will he play gw1? Why is he not added in fpl?

    1. Swans4life
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Yes I think he will play and probably be upload soon

    2. Black Panther
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      He'll start GW1 but could be benched when Borja Baston signs

  10. DrunkPhilosophy
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Sorry, Bottomed

    Hello, How's everyone doing?

    So this is what I'm currently on

    Foster / Juku
    Azpi Shaw Friend Mori Smith
    Hazard Alli Firmino Ramirez Capoue
    Aguero Vardy Gray

    How does it look?

    1. Latchmere Wave Machine
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      It looks fine

    2. Paramaribo
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Look good to me - only that Spurs and Liverpool have some hard matches in the beginning.

  11. Numb
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone know who is Everton's first choice keeper now?

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Stekky I'd say

      1. Numb
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks

  12. Drop Dead Tsimikas
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    This could just be crazy enough to work (downgraded Valencia per suggestions)

    Foster (Jak)
    VVD | Friend | Evans (Byram, Smith)
    Haz | Tadic | Townsend | Gaston
    Vardy | Kun | Ibra

    1. Drop Dead Tsimikas
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      (Capoue as bench MF)

    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Why downgrade valencia?

      1. Drop Dead Tsimikas
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        To upgrade Leko to Gaston (otherwise two 4.5 MFs)

        1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          Right, makes sense

    3. makaveli123
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Nice!

  13. adstomko
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    RMT out of 10 guys. Aguero-less but a good squad IMO

    Mandanda (4.0)
    Valencia, Walker, Van Dijk (4.0, 4.0)
    Hazard, Mané, Oscar, Firmino (4.5)
    Kane, Vardy, Gray

    1. FPLCEO
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Like some of the high risk and high reward mids in there but honestly Aguero is the only essential in the game

      1. adstomko
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Have a feeling Man City will struggle against Sunderland and Stoke, who will park the bus. Also, City's midfielders are not fit. Hence, I think Aguero won't get much service from the start

      2. Velocity
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        This

  14. MoeZe3bi
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Does crystal adapt a defensive strategy?

  15. FPL Maldini
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    So he is likely to start for Arsenal in defence next week?

    1. FPL Maldini
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Who?

    2. Kante Be Bothered
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Monreal Chambers Holding Bellerin

      1. FPL Maldini
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Firminho captain then? Ha

        1. Kante Be Bothered
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          If you are brave enough haha!

      2. Swans4life
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Depends if they sign anyone but that will be it if they don't

    3. FPLCEO
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I expect a new signing....wouldn't invest in their defence any way as expect goal conceded for at least the first 4 games.

      Chambers likely to get a run out which will excite Liverpool and their high press

  16. BT31 - WE ARE ALL TINKERMEN…
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Two defenders for 10.5.

    Which 2 would you get?

    1. Kante Be Bothered
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Walker + Williams

    2. Jøssy ⭐
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Valencia + Funes Mori

  17. esben86
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Is Baines still #1 on set piece + pens?

    1. Epic Fail
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Maybe some set pieces.

  18. Piggs Boson
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Haven't caught any of the Hammers' pre-season games. How has Payet looked?

    1. Piggs Boson
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Just seen he's only had a few minutes against Juve. Not much to go on then...

      1. Kante Be Bothered
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Wont start GW1 i think

        1. Piggs Boson
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          Thanks. Highest owned mid in the game 😯

          1. Kante Be Bothered
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 1 month ago

            I know haha! I cant seem to understand why

  19. Giovanni Giorgio
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    4.5 - 4.0
    5.5 - 4.5 - 4.5 - 4.5 - 4.5

    GK's and D. Too cheap?

    1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Nah. If they rotate well it's all good.
      I'm on only 0.5m more and have a non playing defender.

      1. Kante Be Bothered
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        A little bit

  20. GS456
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Hart, Jakupovic

    Souare, Shaw, Evans, Azpi, 4.0

    Hazard, Alli, Townsend, Redmond, Fletcher

    Aguero, Vardy, Gray.
    1.0 ITB to stay flexible
    Good enough ?

    1. Garlana
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Don't like hart. But the rest looks decent

  21. zalar88
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    is this team ok? tear it..
    foster(jaku)
    azpi, valencia,friend,(kone,paredes)
    hazard,firmino,lamela,tadic,(capoue)
    kun(c),vardy,gray

    any advice?anyone?

  22. camarozz
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    How many games in is the dreaded international break???

    1. Latchmere Wave Machine
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      After gwk3

  23. Ridgewell's scores
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Is Cedric nailed on? Is PvA a better pick? Who'd you have at the back for 5.0?

  24. wbreid777
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Rate my team

    Courtois, Pickford (Bench)
    Chambers, Shaw, Friend, Paredes (Bench), Stones (Bench)
    Barkley, Mkhitaryan, Hazard, Ramsey, Fletcher (Bench)
    Negredo, Aguero, Musa

    1. GS456
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Will Musa start?

      1. wbreid777
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        I hope so

    2. Latchmere Wave Machine
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      It's not for me

  25. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone not fully trust lamela?

    1. Ridgewell's scores
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      o/

    2. Sylas
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      \o/

    3. Chelsea Dagger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      o/

  26. Forza Papac
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Opinions please.

    Jak - Mandanda

    Terry - Shaw - Sagna - Evans - Friend

    Firmino - Oscar (or other 7.5) - Tadic - Townsend - Feghouli

    Aguero - Kane - Gray

  27. Jøssy ⭐
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    I'm very surprised about the lack of love for Mané in the article. I was currently favouring him.

    What about you guys in the forum?

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Shhhh.

      1. Jøssy ⭐
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Mum's the word!

    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Too inconsistent, goes wild one game then likely to blank the next 10

      1. Jøssy ⭐
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Is that because he goes missing, or he gets unlucky with his output?

    3. Latchmere Wave Machine
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      He was unplayable this weekend

      1. Jøssy ⭐
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        I know. I was watching, and that's why I wanted him. All the contributors are making me doubt myself.

        1. David Juan
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          You saw from my 3-5-2 earlier mate I'm in the Mane camp... Stay true!!

          Ibra only got one goal though not the two!!

        2. David Juan
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          What was with the Mata on, Mata off deal? Mourning flexing his anti-Mata muscles again?!

          1. Jøssy ⭐
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 1 month ago

            Yeah, I think he may have been. He justified it afterwards, but he must have known how the media would respond.

            Not sure why he would start his Utd career with a controversial move like that.

  28. Worsle90
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    How can I improve this with fixtures taken into account?

    De Gea, Jaku

    Morgan, Valencia, Friend, Stones, Paredes,

    Deulofeu, Townsend, Lamela, Hazard,

    Aguero, Ibra, Gray

    1. Worsle90
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Sorry, Ibe is 5th mid

  29. Gazpilicueta
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Which goalkeeper is the best partner for Foster? I really like West Brom and Pulis, and I want to play Foster most weeks, so....

    A) Jakupovic, keep it cheap, he wont see much play
    B) Heaton, the rotation works
    C) someone else to cover the hard weeks

    1. Giovanni Giorgio
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      B

  30. Hibbo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Really like Apple Bonkers writing style in the article.

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Everything he writes is fantastic