Moving Target
11 August 2016 2600 comments
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Having bolstered Man City’s attacking options with the acquisition of Nolito and Leroy Sane, new manager Pep Guardiola moved to strengthen his defence this week with the signing of Everton defender John Stones for a fee believed to be £47.5 million.

The 22-year-old England international put pen to paper on a six-year deal at the Etihad, and speaking to the club’s official website, revealed his happiness at joining City, and his desire to earn his place in Guardiola’s starting XI:

“I’ve obviously seen what’s going on here at the Etihad, it’s an ambitious club with a great manager so I can’t wait to get stuck in and help achieve the goals. I know it will be tough getting a place in this team but I’m determined to become the best player I can be and help us to success.”

The History

Stones came through Barnsley’s youth set-up, progressing all the way through to the first team. He made his professional debut in a 4-0 defeat to Reading in March 2012, and managed 28 appearances in all competitions for the Tykes, scoring one goal.

In January 2013, Everton paid Barnsley a fee reportedly in the region of £3 million to secure the young defender’s services, although he had to wait until August 2013 to make his debut for the Toffees, coming in a 2-1 against Stevenage in the League Cup.

Stones’ Premier League debut eventually came in a 1-1 draw against Stoke in January 2014, and he enjoyed a strong second half of the campaign, racking up a further 20 league appearances.

Whilst injury curtailed Stones’ progress during the first half of the 2014/15 season, he ended the campaign as a regular starter, and totaled 23 league appearances, scoring one goal.

Last season, the cultured centre-back was Phil Jagielka’s regular partner at the heart of the Everton defence, clocking up 33 appearances, although he failed to register any attacking returns. His individual performances did come under some criticism, though, with Everton’s disappointing campaign eventually leading to the departure of Roberto Martinez.

Stones represented England at Under 19, Under 20 and Under 21 levels, making 17 appearances in total, before earning a senior debut off the bench in a 3-0 win over Peru in May 2014. He was included in Roy Hodgson’s squad for Euro 2016, but was one of only two outfield players, along with Ross Barkley, not to feature in the tournament. He currently has 10 international caps but has yet to score for his country.

The Prospects

With Vincent Kompany expected to miss the opening weeks of the season due to a thigh injury, Stones will fancy his chances of going straight into the starting XI for Saturday’s season opener against Sunderland.

Guardiola started with Aleksandar Kolarov and Fernando in central defence in City’s final pre-season match against Arsenal, but it could be that Stones partners Nicolas Otamendi against the Black Cats. The England man has got plenty of minutes under his belt playing for the Toffees during pre-season, and should physically at least be ready for the big kick-off.

Furthermore, Eliaquim Mangala has not been included in City’s Champions League squad, which indicates the Frenchmen will likely be allowed to leave before the transfer window closes.

Guardiola favours using a four-man backline, so when Kompany does return to full fitness, it could leave Stones and Otamendi battling for one position. Given the investment made in the England international, he may be the one to keep his place providing he settles quickly in Manchester.

The major positive for Stones’ prospects is the fact Guardiola places so much emphasis on his defenders initiating attacks through their distribution, as he explained last month:

“Normally central defenders are strong in the air and aggressive. But we need to have a good build-up to create easy passes in the midfield so they can create good passes for the strikers. I believe when the ball goes from the central defender to the striker as quickly as possible, it comes as quickly as possible back.”

Crucially, amongst all defenders who played over 1000 minutes last season, Stones was ranked fourth for completed passes with 88%, illustrating his capability as a ball-playing defender.

Comparing the underlying statistics of Stones, Kompany and Otamendi from last season, it’s the Argentine who comes out on top. The former Valencia defender averaged a tackle every 21.4 minutes, far superior to both Kompany (45.9) and Stones (48.1). He held a similar advantage in terms of interceptions too, managing one every 27 minutes, better than both Stones (52.4) and Kompany (53.9).

The only significant area where Stones led the way amongst the trio came via blocks, averaging one every 83.9 minutes, far better than both Otamendi (215.9) and Kompany (310).

Otamendi could hold the edge for CBI, then, although the fact Kompany only managed 13 starts last season and was generally far from his best is perhaps not indicative of what we can expect if he can stay fit for a prolonged period of time.

The big factor in Stones’ favour from a Fantasy perspective is the fact he’s priced at 5.0 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL), whereas both Kompany and Otamendi are valued at 6.0.

That disparity is likely to be one of the main reasons why Stones’ ownership has soared to 27% since the move was confirmed, and if City can equal or better the 16 clean sheets they accrued last season, the former Barnsley man could provide fantastic value providing he’s a regular starter.

As highlighted by this recent in-depth article on Guardiola’s tactics, the signs are promising:

“Guardiola has had the best defensive record in every league campaign of his career at Barcelona and Bayern Munich. Tellingly, the most goals he’s ever conceded came in the first of those seven seasons and the fewest came in his last one with Bayern”.

Stones does, however, lack any real goal threat, having only averaged an attempt every 366.9 minutes last term. That was far worse than Otamendi (104) and Kompany (112.7), both of whom have scored at decent number of goals throughout their careers.

City’s fixtures over the first six Gameweeks (SUN, sto, WHM, mun, BOU, swa) are fairly mixed though, so while Stones may offer tremendous value now playing for a side expected to compete for the title, it may take Guardiola time to get his methods across to his players – something that won’t be helped by Stones’ late arrival should he be thrust straight into the action.

Over the course of the season then, there’s every expectation that Stones could develop as a viable FPL asset under Guardiola’s guidance.

With a number of similarly priced options such as Robert Huth, Michael Keane, Ramiro Funes Mori, Alberto Moreno, Steve Cook, Patrick van Aanholt and Craig Dawson offering significantly greater goal threat, though, the City new boy may need to up his attacking output to offer exceptional value.

Further Reference

John Stones Wikipedia

John Stones Transfer Markt Page

John Stones You Tube

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  1. Salah Fingers
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    Any reason as to why everyone is now swaying to Alli over Eriksen?

      1. Salah Fingers
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 21 days ago

        Awesome, thanks!

        1. dcarlito
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 21 days ago

          Can't take any credit in fairness, some article by Ludo 🙂

    1. Deece
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      Not looked at stats but seems like he finished stronger last season? More of a goal scorer ? More consistent than Eriksen who is in and out of the points. More upside with Alli who is still developing.

    2. Bubz
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      Its personal preference between points that tick over and big points hauls followed by quiet spells. I prefer the excitement of Alli's points hauls 🙂

      1. Salah Fingers
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 21 days ago

        Haha yeh that's it, just had to watch Alli highlights from last season to cement his place in my team 😀

    3. moz_1983
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      Interesting. I've gone with Lamella for the time being as he's had a solid preseason with goals and assists and has been involved in everything decent Spurs have produced.

      Still having a think before the deadline though!

      1. Salah Fingers
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 21 days ago

        Ha yeh, i've gone full circle so far with the 3 of them but finally settled on Alli after reading the above article.

    4. Teddy Steddingham
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      I tend to avoid players who bring consistent returns over explosive as, they're more noticeable. Probably psychology in there causing this awful judgement. Probably along the lines of you remember big double digit hauls and not the steady trickle of 6s or my ego believes I'll know when to bench Alli so as to only get his big returns.

      Also, more seriously I think Alli has a chance to kick on this season; hopefully relieved of playing deeper (Wanyama / Dier / Dembele) should solve this he can maximise his points output. Granted this will increase Eriksen's too (see hot topic) but, Alli has the chance to get better whereas I don't think Eriksen will. I could be wrong though!

  2. Deece
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    Morning gents, how's this looking for GW1?

    * Monitoring Targett although he looks set to start first few weeks
    * Amat to play GW1 then Kone on bench to slot in if/when he moves to Everton for their decent fixtures.
    * decision to go 433 is based on belief that Stones will our score a 5.5m 4th mid.

    Foster
    Stones Targett Friend Amat
    Hazard Sanchez Firmino
    Aguero Kane Gray

    Jaku Kone Hojberg Capoue

    1. George Agdgdgwngo
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      Why do we think stones would out score a 4th mid? Have defensive points changed to higher rewards?

      1. Deece
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 21 days ago

        Reckon City could get more clean sheets than Ramirez could get goals / assists. Think otherwise ? It's a tough call

        1. George Agdgdgwngo
          • 17 Years
          10 years, 21 days ago

          Good shout

  3. phuang
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    Team for GW1:

    Butland,
    Valencia, Friend, Stones
    Hazard, Firmino, Eriksen, Redmond
    Aguero, Gray, Vardy

    Subs: Jakupovic, Williams, Cook, Paredes

    Thoughts?

    1. The HøneyMøns…
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      Good

    2. Deece
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      Looks good. No Arsenal attack but can't have them all

      1. phuang
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 21 days ago

        Will be looking to bring them in when they are fully fit.

    3. ArjenFC
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      6 defenders?

  4. Jimjam
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    Valencia, Terry, Friend, ???, ???

    A) Stones & Amat

    B) Koné & Mee

    1. SG1
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      A

    2. Rhodes your boat
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      A

    3. Shearer & Sutton
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      A

    4. Deece
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      A

  5. Revival
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    What we reckon of this front 7 for GW1?

    Tadic Fabregas Iwobi Ramirez
    Aguero Ibra Vardy

    1. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      Iwobi is a punt as there are many that could play instead. Nice front line otherwise.

    2. The HøneyMøns…
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      Midfield too lightweight

    3. Gooner Kebab
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      I haven't seen much Iwobi around here, a bit punty across the 4 for me.

    4. Deece
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      Fab and Iwobi probably won't start. Too risky I think

  6. Pooodle
    • 17 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    If Bolasie goes to Everton, would you rather have:

    A) Bolasie and Williams

    OR

    B) Philips/other 5.5m mid and Walker

    1. ed24
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      Bolasie wouldn't necessarily be nailed

      1. dcarlito
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 21 days ago

        People keep saying this, but surely after spending that amount he'll be started?

        1. ed24
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 21 days ago

          Would depend on form of Mirallas and Deulofeu.

          1. dcarlito
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 21 days ago

            Would each of those not be fighting for a place from each other? I'm only repeating what I have read on here from people in the know, don't know much about it myself.

    2. @FPLMason
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      Which 5.5 midfielder do you rate as the best option and why?

  7. foreverton
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    Foster, 4.0

    Funes Mori, Friend, VvD (Evans, 4.0)

    Barkley, Mahrez, Tadic, Hazard (4.5)

    Lukaku, Aguero, Gray

    0.5 ITB - any suggestions?

    1. TheEgyptianKing
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      I feel your everton bias is coming through, whats fine but to have Barkley and Lukaku agaisnt Tottenham wouldnt fill me with confidence

    2. dcarlito
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      I think you need to take off your blue tinted glasses 😉

      Not sure about Barkley. How is Mori fixed with the arrival of Williams? Everton have great fixtures after gwk 1 though and reckon Koeman will do well with ye..

  8. Ten Season Wonder
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    Morning folks,

    Please fill in the gaps (2 players)... I've £19m to spend;

    Foster // Jaku
    Shaw // JT // Coleman // Friend // McAuley
    ______ // Mahrez // Lamela // Townsend // Capoue
    Kun // _______ // Gray

    Thanks 🙂

    1. MFPL
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      Hazard and Lukaku (or Benteke if he signs for CP)

    2. Sheeeit
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      Ibra & Tadic

      1. TheEgyptianKing
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 21 days ago

        ^

      2. dcarlito
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 21 days ago

        This and looks good to go.

  9. jay_walker
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    Foster-heaton
    Amat-stones-valencia-evans-coleman
    Haz-Tadic-Feghouli-Firmino-capoue
    Long-Vardy-Kun

    1M itb

    Planning Vardy-Kane after GW1, possibly dumping Haz for Mahrez at some point depenidng on how it goes, Try to get in som EVE as well because of fixtures. Most likely I will get 12 points and just Wldcard after GW2, but ya know.

  10. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    No Kompany, no City CS

    1. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      no woman no cry

    2. Gooner Kebab
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      Stones harsher this.

    3. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      Pointless getting Stones without Kompany ..
      (Pun intended)

  11. Icyrx8
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    Hey guys. Struggling to pick from these two options. Thoughts?

    A) Tadic + Barkley

    B) Firmino + Deulofeu

    Thanks in advance.

  12. woodca04
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    I have ONE final conundrum before finalising. Will happily rate team in reply...

    A) Ibrahimovic + Lamela
    B) Vardy + Eriksen

    Long term, not just early game weeks 🙂

    1. MFPL
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      Tough one. I'm not a fan of either Vardy or Ibra personally, but B looks better long term. Eriksen could be in for a big season and Vardy will once again be depended on for his team.

    2. Ten Season Wonder
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      I would do Vardy & Lamela. and use spare change to improve elsewhere

  13. MFPL
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    What option, considering the team that I already have?

    A) Alli, Redmond and Gray
    B) Long, Deulofeu and Ramsey

    Rest of team:
    Foster (Jakupovic)
    Shaw Stones Friend (Evans Smith)
    Hazard Firmino **** **** (Capoue)
    Aguero Kane ****

    1. woodca04
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      Probabky A. As Alli and gray reliable starters. Not sure on deulofeu or even Long.

      Could you look at mine please... one above yours

  14. jaymanutd1
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    Barkley or Tadic? after week one and especially week three evertons fixtures seem very very generous

  15. Chief Break-Everything
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    RMT

    Foster (Jak)
    Valencia/Stones/Pieters (Friend/Amat)
    Lamela/Tadic/Firmino/Delboy (Capoopoo)
    Kun/Kane/Vardy

    1. Chief Break-Everything
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      4/10

      No Hazard. No Ibra.
      They will tear you a new one, and you'll end up wildcarding within 15 mins.

      Template it up for your own sanity man.

      1. dcarlito
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 21 days ago

        Did you just rate your own team?

        1. Chief Break-Everything
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 21 days ago

          Yup. Been beating myself up about it for a week now. Thought I'd go public

          1. dcarlito
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 21 days ago

            🙂

  16. James LeBron
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    Hazard and Gradel

    Or

    Fabregas and Tadic

    1. MFPL
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      A

  17. reason17
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    Will Bolasie play gw1?

  18. RSe
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    Who's considering a big front 3?

    Got Kane-Kun-Vardy at the moment.

    Then

    10 / 7.5 / 7.5 / 5.5 for mid.

    1. Chief Break-Everything
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      I have exactly the same front 3. It means no Haz... But he ruined my season last year, so more Hazard related pain to come... Or not

      1. RSe
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 21 days ago

        Got haz as well myself.

  19. Hurricane Gilbert
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    Do we expect Funes Mori to start alongside Williams? Will Koné take Mori's place if he signs?

    1. TheEgyptianKing
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      If they sign Kone i cant actually see RFM playing

  20. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    Can't wait til this season is over.

    1. TheEgyptianKing
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      XD

  21. Give The Todd Some Love
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    Haven't been on here for a couple of weeks, can barely remember anyone with Hazard when I left?

    What's changed?

    1. Bubz
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      Looked good in preseason

    2. jay_walker
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      He looks to be his old self again

    3. JÆKS ⭐
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      Good pre season

  22. NotaEufan
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    Firmino or Ayew??

    1. Louis99
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      Firmino

  23. Louis99
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    What are everyone's thoughts on contradicting your defence and attack for a certain GW? I.e having an attacker for one team playing against a team which you ha e a defender from. I've never been too against it but I must admit it does bug me when I see it in my team.

  24. Everyday im Schneiderlin
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    This any good ? Thanks in advance
    Foster jaku
    Stones kone williams pieters amat
    Mahrez lamela townsend mane bolasie
    Aguero vardy benteke

    1. Gooner Kebab
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      heavy CRY, pick Townsend or Tekkers

      1. dcarlito
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 21 days ago

        Tekkers def heading to CRY do you reckon?

    2. TheEgyptianKing
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      Towny ---> Redmond

      Double everton defence (if Kone signs) isnt great until we know you have a strong defence, would spend 0.5 on upgrading Kone to Morgan

      1. Everyday im Schneiderlin
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 21 days ago

        Thanks good point

  25. Dom15
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    a) Redmond + Williams/Morgan
    b) Townsend + Kone

    Cheers!

    1. woodca04
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      B) I'm not convinced Redmond is nailed at all and think Townsend is due a good season

      Any chance you could rate the below please mate

      A) Ibrahimovic + Lamela
      B) Vardy + Eriksen

      Long term, not just early game weeks 🙂

      1. Dom15
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 21 days ago

        Thanks! I think I agree. As far as yours goes, it's close but I have A so I'd have to give the nod to Ibra + Lamela!

  26. Gooner Kebab
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    Best 5.5 mid?

    Zaha, Feg, Fischer, Kouyate or Ibe?

    or punt up to 6.0 and get Redmond.

    1. Louis99
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      I'd get Bojan over Redmond, but just preference. Fischer for best 5.5

    2. woodca04
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      Kouyate for me. Although Ibe has most potential for big points I reckon

    3. raveheart
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      dier never gets a mention, although he was top scorer last season in the 5.5m budget range.

      is this because he will be rotated with wanyama?

      1. jay_walker
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 21 days ago

        He was a defender last season, so most of his points are from clean sheets

  27. 1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    Other than Aguero Ibra or Costa, if you could have any striker just for GW1, who would it be?

    1. Bubz
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      Vardy

    2. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      Vardy vs Hull

    3. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      You should have added Vardy to that list

    4. jay_walker
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      Vardy?

    5. TheEgyptianKing
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      Vardy v a terrible hull

    6. 1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      Thanks guys. Very clear answer.

  28. Will
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    Any thoughts on;

    A: Ibrahimovic & Mahrez
    or
    B: Sanchez & Vardy

    With Mahrez out wide, Sanchez possible up front & Ibra untested in PL I'm tempted by B

  29. Flynny
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

    Morning folks.....felling kinda settled with this lot....

    How does it look??....any issues?

    Foster Heaton
    Valencia terry stones kone amat
    Hazard firmino lamela ramirez capoue
    Kun ibra gray

    Thanks

    1. raveheart
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 21 days ago

      think kone and amat too weak - there are other 4.5m (e.g. evans) that might be safer initially.

      i'm also siting on the fence on ibra and have gone foe kane due to better fixtures

      I have a similar mid to you, and same GK pair.

      Struggling with basically TADIC and DIER, or REDMOND and LAMELA. Could find 0.5m by downgrading a DEF if necessary. Any ideas?

      1. Flynny
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 21 days ago

        Think redmond and lamela is reasonable option..

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    • 15 Years
    10 years, 21 days ago

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    1. My Pretty Pony
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 20 days ago

      Cheers - I emailed you on this previously (3rd in the HoF, for now!) but have been away, so if you need anything from me, let me know. I had emailed you details (I think!) Thanks again.

      1. Kavali
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 20 days ago

        Everything is ok. Have a great season (again 🙂 )