Moving Target
11 August 2016 2600 comments
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Having bolstered Man City’s attacking options with the acquisition of Nolito and Leroy Sane, new manager Pep Guardiola moved to strengthen his defence this week with the signing of Everton defender John Stones for a fee believed to be £47.5 million.

The 22-year-old England international put pen to paper on a six-year deal at the Etihad, and speaking to the club’s official website, revealed his happiness at joining City, and his desire to earn his place in Guardiola’s starting XI:

“I’ve obviously seen what’s going on here at the Etihad, it’s an ambitious club with a great manager so I can’t wait to get stuck in and help achieve the goals. I know it will be tough getting a place in this team but I’m determined to become the best player I can be and help us to success.”

The History

Stones came through Barnsley’s youth set-up, progressing all the way through to the first team. He made his professional debut in a 4-0 defeat to Reading in March 2012, and managed 28 appearances in all competitions for the Tykes, scoring one goal.

In January 2013, Everton paid Barnsley a fee reportedly in the region of £3 million to secure the young defender’s services, although he had to wait until August 2013 to make his debut for the Toffees, coming in a 2-1 against Stevenage in the League Cup.

Stones’ Premier League debut eventually came in a 1-1 draw against Stoke in January 2014, and he enjoyed a strong second half of the campaign, racking up a further 20 league appearances.

Whilst injury curtailed Stones’ progress during the first half of the 2014/15 season, he ended the campaign as a regular starter, and totaled 23 league appearances, scoring one goal.

Last season, the cultured centre-back was Phil Jagielka’s regular partner at the heart of the Everton defence, clocking up 33 appearances, although he failed to register any attacking returns. His individual performances did come under some criticism, though, with Everton’s disappointing campaign eventually leading to the departure of Roberto Martinez.

Stones represented England at Under 19, Under 20 and Under 21 levels, making 17 appearances in total, before earning a senior debut off the bench in a 3-0 win over Peru in May 2014. He was included in Roy Hodgson’s squad for Euro 2016, but was one of only two outfield players, along with Ross Barkley, not to feature in the tournament. He currently has 10 international caps but has yet to score for his country.

The Prospects

With Vincent Kompany expected to miss the opening weeks of the season due to a thigh injury, Stones will fancy his chances of going straight into the starting XI for Saturday’s season opener against Sunderland.

Guardiola started with Aleksandar Kolarov and Fernando in central defence in City’s final pre-season match against Arsenal, but it could be that Stones partners Nicolas Otamendi against the Black Cats. The England man has got plenty of minutes under his belt playing for the Toffees during pre-season, and should physically at least be ready for the big kick-off.

Furthermore, Eliaquim Mangala has not been included in City’s Champions League squad, which indicates the Frenchmen will likely be allowed to leave before the transfer window closes.

Guardiola favours using a four-man backline, so when Kompany does return to full fitness, it could leave Stones and Otamendi battling for one position. Given the investment made in the England international, he may be the one to keep his place providing he settles quickly in Manchester.

The major positive for Stones’ prospects is the fact Guardiola places so much emphasis on his defenders initiating attacks through their distribution, as he explained last month:

“Normally central defenders are strong in the air and aggressive. But we need to have a good build-up to create easy passes in the midfield so they can create good passes for the strikers. I believe when the ball goes from the central defender to the striker as quickly as possible, it comes as quickly as possible back.”

Crucially, amongst all defenders who played over 1000 minutes last season, Stones was ranked fourth for completed passes with 88%, illustrating his capability as a ball-playing defender.

Comparing the underlying statistics of Stones, Kompany and Otamendi from last season, it’s the Argentine who comes out on top. The former Valencia defender averaged a tackle every 21.4 minutes, far superior to both Kompany (45.9) and Stones (48.1). He held a similar advantage in terms of interceptions too, managing one every 27 minutes, better than both Stones (52.4) and Kompany (53.9).

The only significant area where Stones led the way amongst the trio came via blocks, averaging one every 83.9 minutes, far better than both Otamendi (215.9) and Kompany (310).

Otamendi could hold the edge for CBI, then, although the fact Kompany only managed 13 starts last season and was generally far from his best is perhaps not indicative of what we can expect if he can stay fit for a prolonged period of time.

The big factor in Stones’ favour from a Fantasy perspective is the fact he’s priced at 5.0 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL), whereas both Kompany and Otamendi are valued at 6.0.

That disparity is likely to be one of the main reasons why Stones’ ownership has soared to 27% since the move was confirmed, and if City can equal or better the 16 clean sheets they accrued last season, the former Barnsley man could provide fantastic value providing he’s a regular starter.

As highlighted by this recent in-depth article on Guardiola’s tactics, the signs are promising:

“Guardiola has had the best defensive record in every league campaign of his career at Barcelona and Bayern Munich. Tellingly, the most goals he’s ever conceded came in the first of those seven seasons and the fewest came in his last one with Bayern”.

Stones does, however, lack any real goal threat, having only averaged an attempt every 366.9 minutes last term. That was far worse than Otamendi (104) and Kompany (112.7), both of whom have scored at decent number of goals throughout their careers.

City’s fixtures over the first six Gameweeks (SUN, sto, WHM, mun, BOU, swa) are fairly mixed though, so while Stones may offer tremendous value now playing for a side expected to compete for the title, it may take Guardiola time to get his methods across to his players – something that won’t be helped by Stones’ late arrival should he be thrust straight into the action.

Over the course of the season then, there’s every expectation that Stones could develop as a viable FPL asset under Guardiola’s guidance.

With a number of similarly priced options such as Robert Huth, Michael Keane, Ramiro Funes Mori, Alberto Moreno, Steve Cook, Patrick van Aanholt and Craig Dawson offering significantly greater goal threat, though, the City new boy may need to up his attacking output to offer exceptional value.

Further Reference

John Stones Wikipedia

John Stones Transfer Markt Page

John Stones You Tube

  1. Bubz
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    I keep coming back to this one annoying decision. Who is my 2nd 5.5 defender?

    A. VVD
    B. Fuchs
    C. Terry

    1. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      C

    2. 50 Shades Oshea
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      C

    3. Jigger & Pony
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      B

    4. Ten Season Wonder
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      C by miles

    5. tissae
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      C

    6. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      A

    7. Pariße
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      VVD

  2. TheEgyptianKing
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Redmond and Siggy (3rd and 4th mid)

    or another 13.5m duo

    1. Tom1912
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Maybe Ayew but I like Siggy (Swansea bias though)

      1. Jigger & Pony
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        What do you think about Routledge?

        1. TheEgyptianKing
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Routledge would mean a good other mid, and hes been on fire in pre season

          1. Tom1912
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Routledge is not nailed on. Swans have Barrow, Montero and Dyer too, all who could start.

      2. Ten Season Wonder
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Lamela & Townsend?

    2. Greenbackbøøg…
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I'd rate Ayew higher than Siggy

    3. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Sig out gw1

      1. Tom1912
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Think he'll start.

        1. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Why gamble? He's had zero pre season

  3. LC1
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Foster / Schmeichel

    Shaw / Stones / Kone / Friend / Amat

    Erikson / Hazard / Tadic / Fischer / Fletcher

    Kun / Ibrahimovic / Gray

    Hi guys, pretty content with this team.. any last minute suggestions are much appreciated?

    1. makaveli123
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Looks good to me. Someone might suggest to downgrade one of your goalies, but I think they will provide you with a good amount of clean sheets.

      1. LC1
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Thank you

    2. Kukkuu
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I have otherwise the same...but ibra -> vardy, eriksen -> lamela and fischer -> firmino

      1. LC1
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Ooooh nice team mate! Cheers.

  4. tissae
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Your toughts? 0,5m itb.

    Foster/Jaku
    Shaw/Stones/Williams/Friend/Amat
    Hazard/Alli/Tadic/Ramirez/Fletcher
    Gray/Ibra/Kun

  5. JaydenLFC87
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Any changes needed to the below team? or G2G

    Heaton
    Fuchs Stones Valencia
    Tadic Haz Lamela Firmino
    Aguero(C) Vardy Gray

    Foster Capoue Amat Smith

    1. JaydenLFC87
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Anyone??

    2. O12
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Nice team!

  6. Pariße
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Valdes to be first choice over Guzan at Boro?

    1. The HøneyMøns…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Yes

  7. Costa's Counsellor
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Promoted teams have nailed, cheap, settled defenders in fairly solid back lines.

    You’re all picking defenders that have joined clubs in the last week, under new management with brand new systems for much more money.

    You don’t know what you’re doing, you lot 😉

    1. GoonerByron
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Not me..

      Foster, Jaku
      Valencia, Terry, PVA, Targett, Pieters

      1. Horlicks esq.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Targett set to play?

      2. Tshelby
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Whats your mid?

    2. _Jane
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      1 Man Utd 18
      2 Spurs 13
      3 Arsenal 18
      4 Leicester 15
      5 Man City 16
      6 Southampton 12
      7 West Brom 11

  8. Slumdog-Mignolet
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Anyone keen on Paddy McNair at 4.5m? Will he be right back with Yedlin gone?

    1. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Sunderland's fixtures aren't good enough right now for me.

  9. FPL ElasticO
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Is Ibra essential from the start??

    Will Vardy be a saviour??

    Will I rather have Mkhy or Martial from United??

    Also best midprice MF???

    Can anyone sort be out of this situation???

    1. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      See prev page

  10. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Notice Siggy is being mentioned a lot.. is he back? last time i check there were doubts over him starting due to lack of preseason etc

    1. Greenbackbøøg…
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Indeed, and I also think Swansea will struggle for goals this year

    2. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      He's been in training for a little while, and it came as a surprise when he didn't play the final pre-season game.

      Flip of a coin if he'll start atm.

    3. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      *checked

  11. JÆKS ⭐
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Hi guys,

    Do you think Vardy + Alli is a better combo than Costa + Mahrez?

    With all these Mahrez to Arsenal and Costa to Italy rumours it is probably a safer combo but is it also better?

    1. The HøneyMøns…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Vardy & alli defo the better combo IMO

      1. JÆKS ⭐
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Only for the first 3 games btw. Big disadvantage is that I can't get one of the 9.5 boys in if they start performing without using 2 FT now

  12. Dillyboy
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Thoughts on my team?

    Butland

    Baines - Stones - Evans

    Redmond - Payet - Sigi - Hazard

    Gray - Aguero (C) - Vardy

    Ben: Hennessey - Friend - Capoue - Brad Smith

    1. JaydenLFC87
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Looks good, similar to my team above

    2. unlethal
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Wouldn't Mandanda start over Hennessey?

  13. bpz77
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Anyone going with Negredo ?

    1. Costa's Counsellor
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      No way.

      1. bpz77
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        any specific reason ?

    2. The HøneyMøns…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Obviously... not me tho 😉

    3. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Nope

  14. il Brutto
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Repost

    How do you rate the chances of starting for the following keepers?

    1) Jakupovic
    2) Hennessey

    1. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      100%
      50%

    2. rnrd
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      1- 85%
      2- 10%

    3. Jazz!
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      1) 100%
      2) 75% for GW1, 25% for GW2, 1% for GW3

    4. The HøneyMøns…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      100%
      93.51℅

    5. O12
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      100%

      20%

  15. Bobmarley121
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Ok this is it my final team selection

    Valdes (jakupovic)

    Williams stones Valencia
    (Paredes) (Amat)

    Ali firmino Townsend tadic
    (Hojbjerg)

    Costa vardy aguero

    1. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Fair enough ! Good luck to you. With your subs I think you may need it.

  16. supersham
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    In a bit of a pickle. Can't decide between this lot.

    A Carrol
    B Wilson
    C Gray

    1. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Gray

    2. Loðbrók
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Long

  17. Tom1912
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Haven't seen Carters-Vickers mentioned. Seems like he'll be starting until Vertonghen returns. Decent option as a Spurs defender at 4.5m?

    1. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Wimmer?

    2. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      You're onto a wimmer there...

    3. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Who? isnt Vertonghen back sooner than expected(ie 2 weeks or so). and Wimmer is the one who'd start i'd have thought

      1. Tom1912
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Why has CV been playing over Wimmer in preseason? Late back from Euros?

  18. Dacra
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Any love (or hate) for this team?

    Foster (Jaku)
    Valencia - Terry - Stones (Kone, Amat)
    Hazard - Firmino - Lamela - Redmond (Capoue)
    Aguero - Ibrahimovic - Carroll

    1. The HøneyMøns…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      V.good bar carroll
      Get Gray instead

      1. Dacra
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Nah, Im sold on Carroll!

  19. Loðbrók
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    2,5mitb

    Foster/Jaku
    Stones/Fuchs/Friend/Williams/Amat
    Cazorla/Routledge/Hazard/Firmino/Hojbjerg
    Aguero/Vardy/Long

    Happy with my team, but Ideally I would want Sanchez for Cazorla or Eriksen for Routledge.

    But how to free 1m?

    Toughts?

    1. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Haz to oscar

  20. Wilshere Knowledge
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Mahrez just started following Yaya Sanogo on twitter. 😆

    He's obviously desperate to play with such a brilliant striker. 😛

    1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Or he is playing Football Manager 🙂

      1. Wilshere Knowledge
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        😀

    2. Jigger & Pony
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      🙂

  21. Ten Season Wonder
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Is my defence too expensive?

    Could I make better use of money elsewhere?

    Foster - Jaku
    Shaw - JT - Coleman - Friend - McAuley
    £9m - Mahrez - Lamela - Townsend - Capoue
    Kun - Vardy - Gray

    1. The HøneyMøns…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Very easy problem to fix
      JT/Coleman to Kone/kaboul
      9mil to Hazard

      1. Ten Season Wonder
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        interesting, thanks.

        I am leaning more towards ditching Coleman

  22. mdm
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Choose one please:

    1. Baines
    2. Terry
    3. VVD
    4. Fuchs

    thanks

    1. Ten Season Wonder
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Baines or JT

      1. Ten Season Wonder
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Fuch the last two off

    2. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      For what reason? GW1, to GW3, the season?

      1. Ten Season Wonder
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Leicester will leak goals this season and Saints have a new manager.

  23. Puyol Pants Up
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Quick RMT?

    Heaton, Jaku
    Shaw, Coleman, Stones, Evans, Amat
    Hazard, Firmino, Tadic, Ramirez
    Aguero, Ibra, Gray

    Cheers 🙂

    1. TheEgyptianKing
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Wouldn't have Coleman yet, very expensive and not sure if everton defence is strong yet
      Rest of team is very strong

  24. amit1964
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    why allmost everybody prefrer valencia and not walker?

    1. TheEgyptianKing
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      ManUtd have a better start

    2. Ten Season Wonder
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      rotation risk when champs league comes into play

    3. stilicho
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Walker's a big rotation risk

    4. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I think there are concerns over Trippier and Davies rotating in.

      They played their reserve full backs in the Europa last year, but with CL this year they could rotate full backs in the easier fixtures.

  25. TheEgyptianKing
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Who would you rather have:
    i) Redmond and Siggy
    ii) Routledge and Firmino/Eriksen

    1. Ten Season Wonder
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      i

  26. David Juan
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    I must have changed back and forth well over 100 times now... What's the opinion on going with a 3-5-2?

    For me, with so many attacking midfielders it makes a lot of sense. Thoughts on this one please gents:

    Foster

    Valencia / VVD / Stones (Friend, Kone)

    Hazard / Mane / Eriksen / Townsend / Firmino

    Aguero / Gray (Diomande)

  27. Jabba12
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    And I'm done I think - Bring on the new season

    Foster/Jaku
    Valencia/Cedric/Friend/Williams/Amat
    Ramsey/Lamela/Hazard/Firmino/Capoue
    Aguero/Vardy/Carroll

    any improvements

    1. TokyoRisingSun
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      solid team. speaking as an arsenal fan though, not sold on ramsey fpl-wise. he's not certain to start most games, especially when ozil is back GW2

      1. Jabba12
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Cheers. Might reassess. There's just not much in that 8mil midfielder bracket. Could somehow try and get pogba as I've got a feeling he might tear it up, maybe not from an fpl perspective

  28. Bubz
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    If Redmond starts, is it as a second striker? Is that pretty certain with the way the team is set up?

    1. Tom1912
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      That's how they've been setting up preseason

  29. lennyify
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    walker , morgan or williams

    and best mid for 6m , thinking redmond but not convinced

  30. TokyoRisingSun
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Valencia or Terry?

    1. Dacra
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Both 😀

      1. TokyoRisingSun
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        haha! humor me and let's say i absolutely have to pick one of the two

    2. QPRUTD
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Shaw or Terry?