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2 November 2016 1136 comments
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We dim the lights on Gameweek 10, turning attentions to the rising stock of Manchester City’s mid-price German and the continued promise in the Potteries, while pondering the merits of a change of shape.

The Player

Back-to-back braces against West Brom and Barcelona have sealed the deal for many Fantasy Premier League managers when it comes to Ilkay Gundogan.

The German was already ranked top for transfers in this Gameweek prior to last night’s Champions League display, having served up an 18-point haul against the Baggies on Saturday.

Gundogan went into the Barca clash with the praise of Pep Guardiola ringing in his ears – the City boss reckons
“it is impossible” to achieve his targets without the summer signing on board.

Utilised in a double-pivot role for former club Dortmund, Gundogan bagged just four goals and seven assists in his final two years in the Bundesliga.

Guardiola has a history of reinventing players, though, and a switch to 4-1-4-1 has allowed Gundogan to play with the handbrake off as Fernandinho is instead tasked with patrolling the area in front of City’s back-four.

Despite rising in price overnight, Gundogan’s current cost of 5.6 could still prove exceptional value for money if, as expected, he can cement a starting berth.

In saying that, City’s plethora of attacking options still remains an issue for would-be investors.

With Gundogan initially sidelined through injury, Pep started the season with Kevin De Bruyne and David Silva in central midfield and, while the Belgian is versatile enough to be fielded on the flank, it remains to be seen whether Guardiola prefers him orchestrating play in the middle.

Nonetheless, it hasn’t deterred the 202,000+ FPL managers who have splashed the cash on Gundogan since Saturday’s deadline as we seek out that cheaper fourth or fifth midfielder.

With a home clash against Middlesbrough up next, Pep is likely to field his strongest side as City look to go into the international break at the summit.

Another start and convincing performance from the German should see that bandwagon roll on at pace over the upcoming fortnight.

The Team

Three wins on the spin ensure that Stoke City now warrant our attention.

Until this point, our focus has centred on the now-undeniable appeal of Joe Allen as a cheap but hugely productive midfield option.

His Gameweek 10 performance, punctuated by a pair of assists, continued an ascent and has booked him almost 100,000 new owners ahead of Saturday’s trip to West Ham United.

But Stoke’s potential can extend beyond the Welshman.

Wilfried Bony’s brace on Monday night announced his return to consideration.

A provider of 17 goals for Swansea in the 2013/14 campaign, the Ivorian can produce in the top flight if he can be kept fed by the craft of Allen, Marko Arnautovic and Xherdan Shaqiri.

While Allen will again be buzzing around Bony’s muscular presence at the London Stadium, the service provided by Arnautovic will be absent through suspension, with Shaqiri also an injury doubt.

Gameweek 11 returns could be a stretch, then, even with the Hammers missing the influence of Winston Reid at the back.

But, longer term, Bony can be Stoke’s elusive goalscorer to ignite Stoke as an attacking force.

The Potters have played the bottom three sides over their last previous three Gameweeks, urging caution when assessing their current form.

However, with four in six at the bet365 stadium to follow Saturday’s clash, Bony can embark on a run of goals and begin to edge himself into our thinking.

If he can show consistency, we would also see Allen, Arnautovic and Shaqiri flourish further – with their supply translating into assist returns.

The Talking Point

The emergence of Gundogan adds further fuel to the formation debate.

For several seasons we’ve been set on the popular 3-4-3 set-up, a structure that would allow us to adopt the current midfield template, working in tandem with a settle frontline.

Circumstances in this campaign are prompting a rethink.

Gundongan adds to a cast of worthy fifth midfielder options, with the aforementioned Joe Allen joined by the likes of Junior Stanislas, Etienne Capoue and Nacer Chadli all affordable alternatives to a third striker, nudging us towards a 3-5-2.

The forwards have also played their part in this current movement – failing to provide us with reliable mid-price options to rival the almost weekly supply of candidates in midfield.

The tri-force of Sergio Aguero, Romelu Lukaku and Diego Costa looks unshakable but, for most, it’s out of reach if we are to concentrate funds on two or three big-hitting midfielders.

While it can often come down to a choice of two of those three forward candidates, filling the third striker spot has proved difficult.

Jermain Defoe is the only sub-8.0 striker to have scored more than four times, with Charlie Austin (four goals) perhaps currently the only other option to warrant the investment.

With the fixtures set to wing in favour of defensive investment at Chelsea and Spurs over the next month, the lure of a shift to five across the middle is growing.

Acquiring a benchwarmer up front – perhaps Hull City’s Will Keane – can make it possible to stock the midfield, sparing funds to pick up some reassuringly expensive options at the back.

As Gundogan flourishes and the procession of candidates from midfield continues, it’s now up to the likes of Defoe, Austin and perhaps Bony to prove they can keep pace to retain our trust in the 3-4-3 setup.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Hands Guber
    10 years, 7 days ago

    Good afternoon cowboys,I'm mad for a hit this week but I think I should sit still? I've already done Cech to Heaton for funds and other obvious reasons.

    Heaton
    Lovren//Bellerin//Smith
    Lallana//Sanchez//Payet//Mata
    Aguero(C)//Rashford//Wilson(VC)

    Grant//Allen//Holebas//Amat

    1.7 in the bank

    Thank you cowboys

    1. Larry Legend
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Wilson VC? Other than that GTG.

      1. Hands Guber
        10 years, 7 days ago

        Suspect no hope of Aguero getting rested ahead of internationals so it doesn't really matter who VC is on.

        I would be tempted by Wilson (C) since I captained him the week he got a goal/assist but Kun is King.

        1. Krionos
          10 years, 7 days ago

          It really does matter who VC is on... You never know what can happen. Getting your team set for the weekend (Including bench, VC etc etc.) Is usually a lot more important than considering further 4 point hits...

  2. ANDER.
    10 years, 7 days ago

    A) Vertonghen > Fuchs (-8)
    B) Do it next week

    Which one would you prefer?

    1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      10 years, 7 days ago

      A would be rediculous. Just sayin

    2. EmreCan Hustle
      10 years, 7 days ago

      B

    3. ANON.
      10 years, 7 days ago

      B

    4. Worzel Gummidge
      10 years, 7 days ago

      A would be for a -4 and B

    5. Sjaugen
      10 years, 7 days ago

      It's still a -4 even if it's your second hit.
      B

      1. ANDER.
        10 years, 7 days ago

        Knew that Lol. But guess the leagues like LMS takes the hits into consideration and i don't want to drop out of it just yet

    6. ANDER.
      10 years, 7 days ago

      My defenders cover next week easily but the price changes are my actual concern. Vert may drop, Fuchs could rise. Think i will wait till friday then ..

  3. Allen v Gundogan
    LakhaneeFC
    10 years, 7 days ago

    Allen vs Gundogan debate:

    I know everyone will probably consider yesterday's results to be definitive proof that the City mid is the perfect 4th/5th midfielder, but I am not so sure:

    Pep's statement that they can't win without him is being misconstrued in my opinion. It does NOT mean that he's going to be playing every game and is above rotation risk - i think it means that having him provides the team with depth which is necessary to battle for 2 trophies. If you look at the goals against Barca, I don't think he was a driver for the goals (unlike KDB), he just pushed forward along with the team and got the final touch.

    Regarding Allen, i won't go into the stats as they're covered elsewhere, but I would think having Arnie and Shaq out only makes it having Allen a much juicier prospect. You now have a guaranteed creative hotspot with a proven FPL scorer in Bony up font - the balls/attacking options will pass through him going forward. Additionally, with West Ham horrible at the back and with Reid now suspended - I am going to put money on the fact that Stoke will score/create a LOT more chances this GW

    TL;DR: Allen over Gundagon for the next 2 GWs

    Would love to know what others think on this - is there anything i am missing?

    1. ANON.
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Makes a lot of sense

    2. EmreCan Hustle
      10 years, 7 days ago

      I agree Allen is more involved in attacks than Gundo, but I'm not convinced Stoke are a free scoring team. They've just played against really poor defenses.

      1. LakhaneeFC
        10 years, 7 days ago

        Their next 4 matches are: West Ham (Without Reid), Bournemouth, Watford, Burnley

        I think that satisfies the 'defensively weak teams' criteria - for 3/4 atleast

        1. EmreCan Hustle
          10 years, 7 days ago

          Compare that with City and their attack potential.
          West Ham, Watford and Bournemouth can all prove stubborn.

          1. LakhaneeFC
            10 years, 7 days ago

            Just made a similar reply below:

            City's potential actually dilutes Gundo's chances of being involved in the goals. Stoke might score less, but there's a higher chance of Allen being involved in each of them

            I don't think West Ham (this GW) will be able to keep a CS - remember when they didn't have Cresswell at the start of the season?

            1. EmreCan Hustle
              10 years, 7 days ago

              Remember when Stoke didn't have Shaqiri and Arnie at the start of the season?

              But I agree about Allen's involvement.
              Just think that if City rip a few defenses apart, everyone will get some returns.

    3. TheSteel
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Gundogan remind me of Lampard the way he trails in to the box behind the play. Especially on the goal last night and his second one on the weekend. Lampard was an FPL monster.

      1. MagicMessi
        10 years, 7 days ago

        I think Allen is more similar to lampard !

        1. LakhaneeFC
          10 years, 7 days ago

          I kind of agree - too soon to tell though. Lampard was a monster.

          But Allen/Bony could be a diluted version of Lampard/Drogba in my opinion

      2. LakhaneeFC
        10 years, 7 days ago

        That is a fair point - but Lampard was never a defensive cover. Also, I think Gundo will get goals, but he will remain the sweeper behind the creative hub of KDB, Sterling, Silva, Nolito and Aguero

    4. pompeyfan
      10 years, 7 days ago

      or Stoke will struggle to score missing their 2 most creative players, or Bojan could come in and take some of Allen's points.

      1. LakhaneeFC
        10 years, 7 days ago

        That is a definite possibility - can't be ignored.

        Hopefully West Ham capitulate without Reid and make it easier 🙂

    5. Football Weekender
      10 years, 7 days ago

      I love Gündogan as a player but I'' not sold on him as a consistent FPL option. I think the most goals he's scored in a season previously is 5? He'll surpass that this season but I think the last week has been something of an anomaly. And obviously the risk of rotation is always there with the great options City have.

      In short, great for building team value now but I'm not convinced it'll translate into points.

    6. momomaimai
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Gundogan with Boro and Allen with Westham.....I think Gundogan over Allen this game week.

      1. LakhaneeFC
        10 years, 7 days ago

        Boro have been quite good defensively in the past 2-3 GWs. I agree City will win/score goals, but it's not the kind of defence where your defensive midfielder also starts joining the fun

        1. John t penguin
          10 years, 7 days ago

          and barca are

          1. LakhaneeFC
            10 years, 7 days ago

            I think the league is a different beast, and you can't do A>B, B>C hence A>C. Plus City play with a very different press/presence in CL.

            Also, Barca wasn't exactly at full strength - which was a big factor in their defensive uncertainty in the match

    7. Mr-Inbetween
      10 years, 7 days ago

      I think its important to remember the teams they play for, City will score much more - giving Gundogan the opportunity to be involved in a lot more goals. Stoke on the other hand could easily go games without goals, which is probably more likely without Arnautovic and Shaqiri.

      1. LakhaneeFC
        10 years, 7 days ago

        I would think it's the other way around:

        Assuming City get 3 goals in a match: The probability that Gundo is one of them is low when you have Aguero, Sterling, KDB upfront.

        Stoke getting 1 goal in a match: I would assume it's Allen/Bony combination (with Arnie and Shaq out)

        I think we should also focus on who they play, and playing against a weak defense guarantees both teams score - i just think Allen's involvement seems more sure

    8. Krionos
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Some good input there, but Stoke creating more than City?? errmmm...

      1. LakhaneeFC
        10 years, 7 days ago

        Not more than City, that's never going to happen 🙂

        % of chances created that Allen will be a part of (vs Gundo) - that's key i think

    9. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      10 years, 7 days ago

      An attacking force like city at moment easily outweighs a "what if he's better with no shaq or arnie " for me. I could have probably excelled against the defence allen faced over last 3. I don't think he will have it that easy for a while..but yes it's all ifs and buts.no one knows yet just go with instinct.

      1. LakhaneeFC
        10 years, 7 days ago

        Yup, boils down to gut feeling at the end. Mine is Allen, clearly 🙂

    10. Paul Huckin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Allen with a proven goal scorer in front of him but Gundogan doesn't have that? Also, Allen not exactly prolific away from home. I'd bring in Gundogan for this GW and take it from there

      1. LakhaneeFC
        10 years, 7 days ago

        Hmm, hadn't checked his away form - might be a factor towards Gundo.

        Gundo does, but he looks like the pass before the assist, given his position. Too much talent in front of him to feed Aguero in the final third

    11. TRIPPIER'S DAD
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Double up, for sure. He who dares, wins!

      1. LakhaneeFC
        10 years, 7 days ago

        If you have nothing else pressing, you are a lucky man! 🙂

        1. GENERATION X
          10 years, 7 days ago

          I've done likewise but was pushed into a corner somewhat having Snod n Arnie...

          1. GENERATION X
            10 years, 7 days ago

            ...so Capoue went, I took the money before he drops even further (which is inevitable)...

            1. LakhaneeFC
              10 years, 7 days ago

              Makes sense - i should have figured out a way to sell Capoue at his peak price (was putting out fires elsewhere)

              Good luck - you win both ways!

    12. Individual
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Excellent.

      As I posted earlier, I'm worried Gundog is a bit of a red herring. I remember last year Schneiderlin scored in consecutive gameweeks, cue a bandwagon, lots of people proclaiming he had a new position, then his goals promptly drying up as soon as many brought him in.

      As Gundogan seems another deep lier who's also had a day in the sun, I'm inclined to watch and wait again.

      That said, I'm not doing a Mark and acting refusenik about him: if he does keep it up and morphs into this year's Mahrez, I'll follow along 🙂

      1. LakhaneeFC
        10 years, 7 days ago

        Yup, a couple more GW of returns and it's no longer a bandwagon - it's the real deal. Could even get him in as the 4th even if goes up to 6mm

    13. LakhaneeFC
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Hahaha, popped my cherry with this one - feels good 🙂

    14. Ku Aing Sia Maneh
      10 years, 7 days ago

      I got both hehe

      1. LakhaneeFC
        10 years, 7 days ago

        Haha, hedging at its best 🙂

    15. Qubit
      10 years, 7 days ago

      I agree that Allen has better short term fixtures. However, my main concern with Allen is once the fixtures stiffen you're left with a 5m stoke midfielder who hasnt scored more than 4 goals in a season for the last 5 years then facing Arsenal, Sot, Lei, L'pool, Chelsea in the run up and over xmas.

      Now if he's your 5th mid, no big deal, but if he is a regular playing member of your 11 each week then shifting him out is that much harder even than a player just 0.5m more. By then you will likely have re-invested the cash elsewhere, which would potentially mean multiple transfers just to get rid.

      1. LakhaneeFC
        10 years, 7 days ago

        My view to get out of it is simple:

        1. Play him for the next 4 GWS - easy fixtures.

        2. Sell him at his high price point (if he performs in these 4) - for a neat profit.

        That way, you get back cheap 5th mid and money for the rest of the team.

        Don't think it's worth discounting him because of tough fixtures 1 month or more away.

  4. TheSteel
    10 years, 7 days ago

    Should i play Evans (lei) or Pieters (whu)? Playing Foster in net.

    1. EmreCan Hustle
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Pieters

    2. ANDER.
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Pieters then. I doubled up last week with Pieters/Grant and left Heaton on the bench ...

  5. I Member
    10 years, 7 days ago

    Deeney to Austin worth a second hit? I think it is long term even if Austin doesn't make up for the -4 this week (which he very well could against Hull). Considering Valencia, Shaqiri + Deeney -> Fuchs, Gundogan + Austin. The alternative is Valencia + Shaqiri -> Fuchs + Redmond but Austin is the standout 3rd striker imo and I don't really fancy a Saints attacking double up.

    1. EmreCan Hustle
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Don't think it's worth a second hit.
      Liverpool are terrible at the back.
      But you can decide after tomorrow's match.

    2. Over Midwicket
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Troy has great fixtures after this weekend

      1. I Member
        10 years, 7 days ago

        Doesn't matter if Watford can't score goals.

    3. Krionos
      10 years, 7 days ago

      If it's for long term, then it can wait. If you think he will score a goal+ this weekend, then yes.

  6. Littlefish92
    10 years, 7 days ago

    Any changers to this team ? 0.9 in the bank

    Lloris
    Clyne holebas stones
    Sanchez coutinho bolasie Allan
    Aguero Defoe zlatan

    Subs Pickford Capoue Mcauley amat

    1. EmreCan Hustle
      10 years, 7 days ago

      What are your plans with Zlatan?
      If I were you, I would do Zlatan+Capoue->Kdb/Hazard+Austin.
      But I tend to go hit crazy sometimes 😛

      1. Littlefish92
        10 years, 7 days ago

        Well my plan was to keep zlatan but now he is not doing good might get rid and yea sounds a good plan that thanks

    2. momomaimai
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Zlatan to Costa/Lukaku.
      Capoue to Gundogan.
      Defoe to Austin.
      Bolasie to Firmino.

    3. Russell
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Ibra to kane as a differential?

      Could be a good transfer for next week if you're happy to keep Ibra vs Swansea.

  7. Over Midwicket
    10 years, 7 days ago

    Any news on Shaqiri? Will he play vs the Hammers?

    1. EmreCan Hustle
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Wait for pressers.

  8. Boris Bodega
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 7 days ago

    How much forward planing does everyone do with their FF transfers? Does defence need more planning than attack? Last year I put in a lot of work planing weeks in advance, but it actually tended to take my eye off ball of who to get now. This season, I have started poorly, but I am not really making any plans, I assess my team each week and look for any weaknesses.

    1. EmreCan Hustle
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Don't plan more than 2 or 3 weeks at a time.
      I play the fixtures first, then try and fill the gaps with in form players and a couple of punts.

    2. liiusions
      10 years, 7 days ago

      I tend to plan my defensive transfers around fixture swings. I.e. I've just done Kos->Fuchs who will become Alonso in 4 weeks time

    3. CloudSky
      10 years, 7 days ago

      I plan like 6 weeks ahead but it never really works that way.

  9. NestorC
    10 years, 7 days ago

    Who are you transfering in for Snod?

    1. Football Weekender
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Redmond. But Gündogan is now the favourite on here at that £5m - £6m range.

      1. NestorC
        10 years, 7 days ago

        Its him or Allen than, just not sure which one to get.

  10. Worzel Gummidge
    10 years, 7 days ago

    Who do SOU have available to play up front if not Austin on Thursday? If Austin plays then doubts over him playing Sunday.

    1. Ziegler1988
      10 years, 7 days ago

      JRod

    2. momomaimai
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Redmond

    3. EmreCan Hustle
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Isn't Long fit?

      1. Worzel Gummidge
        10 years, 7 days ago

        Flagged with return of 6th Nov according to FPL. Same as JRod.

        1. EmreCan Hustle
          10 years, 7 days ago

          🙁

    4. lahi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Austin will start both games. They play Inter at home meaning they're not traveling. So he should be ok.

      1. Krionos
        10 years, 7 days ago

        You wouldn't think all these players were highly paid, exceptionally fit professional athletes on here... Everyone seems to think that they can't play 90 minutes of football a couple times a week...

        1. lahi
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          10 years, 7 days ago

          Yeah 😀 I personally think Austin can handle a couple of games in a week.

        2. Worzel Gummidge
          10 years, 7 days ago

          Clearly you haven't paid much attention to SOU or quotes by the manager.

  11. invertebrate
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 7 days ago

    Cards on the table, I think Gundogan is a silly bandwagon. He's a wonderful player and it's tempting to have a City mid at 5.6 for their upcoming fixtures. Unfortunately, I think his goalscoring is unsustainable almost because of those fixtures.

    Against WBA he played further forward with Fernandinho and Fernando both in the starting eleven. And against Barcelona, City pressed unbelievably high putting Gundogan in a much more advanced position against fewer defenders than the formation naturally allowed.

    In the easier games coming up, I can't imagine all three of Gundogan, Fernando and Fernandinho playing, putting Gundogan further back in the pivot. As for a high press, yes City will always do that but they are more likely to be doing it having just lost the ball following a sustained period of possession meaning that while Gundogan will sometimes gain possession high up the pitch it's likely there will be more opposition defenders behind the ball than there were against Barcelona.

    His style of play thrives on counter-attacking or from being played further forward as against WBA. I simply don't believe he'll get the opportunity to do either in his upcoming fixtures.

    Tl;dr Gundogan is probably better against better teams from a fantasy perspective (similar to Fernandinho imo). Actually, from a fantasy perspective just don't bother at all. Great player but getting rid of Sterling or Walcott for him is madness.

    1. Worzel Gummidge
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Here come the Gun owners with counter arguments 🙂 Grabs popcorn

      1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
        10 years, 7 days ago

        Hehe. It's getting daft now

        NO ONE KNOWS!!!!

        Just choose one and hope your right. Not as if there is only one obvious answer. Not like " should kun be dropped" last week

        1. invertebrate
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          10 years, 7 days ago

          I kind of agree. I have no real truck with getting Gundogan if you need a player at that price point. My issue is with downgrading Antonio, Walcott, Sterling et al just because he's had a good week.

          1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
            10 years, 7 days ago

            Yes I agree mate. I can't understand why folk are taking hits myself more than anything. Your points are good ones but either one is capable of goals and assists..it's a coin flip

            1. invertebrate
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              10 years, 7 days ago

              Well I wasn't really doing a Gundogan/Allen comparison, more bafflement at the level of knee jerking and hopefully a logical argument against it.

              1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
                10 years, 7 days ago

                Yer .sorry I didn't mean to say it like you was. That was just my addition to the whole debate on here really

                1. invertebrate
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  10 years, 7 days ago

                  No worries mate. I'm inclined to think Allen's the slightly better pick of the two but it's marginal.

    2. EmreCan Hustle
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Only time will tell, that's FPL. Sometimes logic doesn't quite do it.

      1. invertebrate
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 7 days ago

        Well... I'd argue that over time logic will actually win out. In the short term anomalies occur.

        1. EmreCan Hustle
          10 years, 7 days ago

          I don't consider either one a long term pick. Allen's returns might fizzle out and Gundo could face rotation due to CL and cup ties.

          1. invertebrate
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            10 years, 7 days ago

            I'm inclined to agree. I have Allen in a 3-5-2 as his fixtures are good for a little while yet but I'll probably downgrade him at some point and move back onto a third striker.

          2. Krionos
            10 years, 7 days ago

            Allen makes so much more sense after watching the game Monday. He is being asked to be the creative force in a somewhat limited Stoke team and is delivering. Gundogan plays in a team that has Aguero, KDB, Silva and Sterling as their attacking force(With some very viable alternatives on the bench) and will be played in the role he is best suited, a defensive midfielder.

            1. invertebrate
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              10 years, 7 days ago

              This. City have a higher goals ceiling than Stoke but Allen is much more likely to be involved in the goals they do score.

    3. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 7 days ago

      I swapped Snodgrass for him. Is that acceptable?

      1. Worzel Gummidge
        10 years, 7 days ago

        Computer says yes.

      2. invertebrate
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 7 days ago

        Yes, more so!

    4. Russell
      10 years, 7 days ago

      But against a team like Boro and following fixtures, they will have so much possession that he will be around the box anyway as it will be siege-like mentality - almost like Ramsey for Arsenal a few seasons back when in double Pivot.

      1. invertebrate
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 7 days ago

        Yes, that's possible but I think it'll be just that: around the box rather than in it. He may well do a good job in a game like Fanduel but if I had to pick a City goalscorer against Boro he'd be at least 5th on the list.

    5. mojoindojo
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Went Redmond over Gundogan. I have faith in Hull

      1. invertebrate
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 7 days ago

        Yeah, Hull are dreadful. I think I'm getting Van Dijk as my Valencia replacement but a bit worried having no attackers in that game.

    6. Kered
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 7 days ago

      It's like printing money bringing him in..one more goal this week and his stocks will continue to rise.

      1. invertebrate
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 7 days ago

        That's true and maybe the only reason to get him imo. I don't have the luxury of two free transfers and no other issues though.

    7. NestorC
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Well who would you get in instead of Snod, Allen or Gundo, for these couple of weeks?

      1. invertebrate
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 7 days ago

        As a playing fourth or fifth mid you mean?

        1. NestorC
          10 years, 7 days ago

          Fourth, this is my front

          Sanch Firm Cout Snod Fletch
          Kun Kaku Austin(atm is Rash)

          1. invertebrate
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            10 years, 7 days ago

            Allen I think although if you're downgrading Rashford to Austin can you afford someone like Redmond instead?

          2. invertebrate
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            10 years, 7 days ago

            Scratch that, hadn't realised how much Austin has risen!

            1. NestorC
              10 years, 7 days ago

              Yes I can afford Red but double up Sout?

              1. invertebrate
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                10 years, 7 days ago

                It's a bit of a risk but Southampton will score in most games and have a good run coming up. In terms of value for money they're just about the best team out there this season.

                1. NestorC
                  10 years, 7 days ago

                  Thanks mate, will try it out

                  1. invertebrate
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    10 years, 7 days ago

                    All the best and in advance, I'm really sorry when it goes horribly wrong.

          3. invertebrate
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            10 years, 7 days ago

            Or you could always get someone like Fuchs or Alonso and play four at the back. Not trendy, I know, but if you're not that sold on mid options at that price point it could pay dividends.

  12. lahi
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 7 days ago

    A. Arnautovic -> Coutinho
    B. Antonio -> Coutinho

    B was the one I had planned but Arnie is banned and my bench is short of quality and starters (Fletcher, Collins, Amat).

    But A makes sense given Antonio gives me another decent starter and maybe look ahead to get Allen in GW12 for Antonio.

    Given that there's a chance that Collins(STO) would start in place of banned Reid, would it be better to keep Arnautovic(BOU-wat-BUR)?

    1. EmreCan Hustle
      10 years, 7 days ago

      B. Play Collins.

      1. lahi
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 7 days ago

        Thanks, that's the plan atm. Gotta do it today before Coutinho rises again tomorrow.

  13. RAFA THE GAFFA
    10 years, 7 days ago

    So tempted by Deeney > Austin for a -4, what you guys think? Otherwise I'm pretty happy with my team with 2mil ITB.

    Heaton
    Lovren Walker Pieters
    Sanchez Firmino Gundogan Coutinho
    Deeney Kun Lukaku

    (Jaku, Capoue, Evans, Amat)

    1. Worzel Gummidge
      10 years, 7 days ago

      I would normally keep as Pool defence is rubbish but Watford look so toothless going forward nowadays. I did it for free. Your call.

    2. EmreCan Hustle
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Since you're playing Lovren I would be tempted.
      But wait till after the Europa game.

    3. lahi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Already did it before the price rise. Hit inclusive in my case as well. Best possible week to take a hit for him as they're playing Hull.

      1. I Member
        10 years, 7 days ago

        This. I'd rather to do it this week for -4 and have him for the Hull fixture than wait and do it for free next week.

    4. I Member
      10 years, 7 days ago

      See above. I'm thinking the same.

  14. RD
    10 years, 7 days ago

    What's d situation with Walcott?

    1. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Unknown. Wait for pressers.

    2. EmreCan Hustle
      10 years, 7 days ago

      More likely to play than not.

  15. merin
    10 years, 7 days ago

    Lallana -> Gundogan & Sterling -> Hazard for a hit?

    My current team:
    Pickford Grant
    Walker Coleman Smith Holebas Amat
    Sanchez Sterling Firmino Lallana Allen
    Aguero Lukaku Deeney

    FT: 1, ITB: 0.2

    1. Worzel Gummidge
      10 years, 7 days ago

      No thanks. First 1 could maybe pass my stringent validation checks but not the latter and not for a -4

      1. merin
        10 years, 7 days ago

        What would you do with my 1FT?

        1. Worzel Gummidge
          10 years, 7 days ago

          Personally. Deeny to Austin

    2. FERDINANDISWORTHTWOINTHEBUS…
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Good move I think. Hazard could really kick on when fixtures soften

  16. JackBetherz
    10 years, 7 days ago

    This is probably gonna seem a stupid question but Why has Morgan got a such big TSB difference over Huth as I cant seem to notice too many differences? Is Morgan up for corners more than Huth or something?
    Thanks advance

    1. Ziegler1988
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Huth was suspended GW1 so now dead teams had Morgan

      1. JackBetherz
        10 years, 7 days ago

        Ahh thanks mate

    2. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 7 days ago

      More attacking and less likely to be booked.

      1. JackBetherz
        10 years, 7 days ago

        Fair enough Morgan it is then, cheers bud

  17. TheSteel
    10 years, 7 days ago

    Is anyone captaining someone other than Kun?

    1. The Mighty I
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Tempted to captain Austin.

    2. EmreCan Hustle
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Firmino maybe.

    3. Gussy
      10 years, 7 days ago

      I have the C on Austin and VC on Hazard, might switch them

  18. Lightbody
    10 years, 7 days ago

    Grant owners (or non-owners, like me, contemplating bringing him in for the short term), does Butland's "latest setback" give you optimism that Grant will stay between the sticks for the next 4 GWs?

    1. Ziegler1988
      10 years, 7 days ago

      I don't think we'll see Butland until January

    2. EmreCan Hustle
      10 years, 7 days ago

      What's the setback?

    3. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Hughes said "few weeks". Not nailed for next 4GW's as far as i can see.

  19. PEPSIMAN
    10 years, 7 days ago

    Any changers to this team ? 1.7 in the bank. Thanks.

    Heaton
    Francis Fuchs Walker
    KDB Coutinho Firminho Stainlas
    Aguero Lukaku Austin

    Subs Pickford Capoue Pieters amat

    1. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Good to go. Save.

    2. Helia
      10 years, 7 days ago

      G2g

  20. liiusions
    10 years, 7 days ago

    Gibbs was impressive against Sunderland, he may well have the LB spot for now and could be a great option at 4.9m in a few week if he keeps his place

    1. Worzel Gummidge
      10 years, 7 days ago

      He wont keep his place. As soon as Monreal is fit he is gone

    2. EmreCan Hustle
      10 years, 7 days ago

      His attacking potential was always good. But defensively not great. Monreal is first choice.

    3. Bubz
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Monreal is way better

    4. LakhaneeFC
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Did you not see what Cafu did to him yesterday?

      He's good in attack, but really not that great defensively

  21. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 7 days ago

    Allen or Gundagon?

    1. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Both. Otherwise Allen.

    2. GoonerByron
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Allen still for me.. Don't think Gundagon will keep up his attacking form

      1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
        10 years, 7 days ago

        Why?

  22. FERDINANDISWORTHTWOINTHEBUS…
    10 years, 7 days ago

    Hazard or Firminho? Plenty people telling me Firm is better but surely Hazard is a better player and has smashed it since the 3-4-3 move even with tough fixtures. Happy to be told I'm wrong though.

    1. Worzel Gummidge
      10 years, 7 days ago

      You're wrong.

    2. EmreCan Hustle
      10 years, 7 days ago

      If you have a Liverpool midfielder then I would suggest get Hazard.

    3. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Well I've had to make the choice this gw. Hazard won.

      Firminio will get points but I think with added pens and explosiveness hazard wins the race for me. Subjective argument

  23. _Freddo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 7 days ago

    Gündogan, plays for a better team, has more chance of sustaining it.

    209k transfers in for Gündogan since Sat, that's some bandwagon.

    1. GoonerByron
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Definitely a failed one in waiting 🙂

      1. _Freddo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 7 days ago

        Yeah off course, I mean two goals against Barcelona is not quite up to a pair of assists against Swansea.

        I own both by the way so it's an unbiased a view as possible.

        1. Helia
          10 years, 7 days ago

          Agreed

          1. Helia
            10 years, 7 days ago

            Although i prefer allen.. (was only talking about the barca performance).

        2. Worzel Gummidge
          10 years, 7 days ago

          Agreed. I was fully expecting braces against swansea, Spurs, Southhampton and Everton as well but he didn't deliver. Since he scored 2 against Barca and WBA it is as good a reason as any to jump right on him.

          1. _Freddo
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            10 years, 7 days ago

            You need to lower you expectations, not even Joe Allen could score braces against Swansea, Spurs, Southampton and Everton one after the other.

        3. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
          10 years, 7 days ago

          Hehe

  24. royals forever
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 7 days ago

    Due to a TV of 100.9 is this is the best front 8 I can come up with

    Is it too weak?

    Sanchez Bolasie Gundogan Allen Redmond

    Aguero Costa Deeney

    Any ideas would be welcomed

    1. Worzel Gummidge
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Deeney to Austin will provide more case.

    2. Kered
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Looks good. But Deeney to Austin is a popular move, frees up a bit more funds also

    3. Worzel Gummidge
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Downgrade Bolasie to a 4.4 will give you more cash to upgrade Gun/Allen or Redmond

    4. EmreCan Hustle
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Way too weak. What's your defense like?

    5. Worzel Gummidge
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Downgrade Beelerin as well. With that midfield you can't afford that luxury.

    6. Helia
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Down grade one to de roon or another 4.3 youll never play, and see what you can upgrade the other one to. (Mids)

  25. Typo
    10 years, 7 days ago

    Ive had Benteke and Deeney for the last 3 gameweeks. Did Arnautovic -> Gundogan. Is it worth taking out one of the two for a hit? Who do you reckon? Bony? Dont get the Austin hype tbh

    1. Helia
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Nah wait the seek unless youd be getting in a solid upgrade

      1. Helia
        10 years, 7 days ago

        Week*

  26. Helia
    10 years, 7 days ago

    Anything to change here?

    Pickford
    Fuchs koscielny stones
    Sanchez hazard firmino allen
    Aguero(c) lukaku austin

    Foster williams amat de roon

    1. EmreCan Hustle
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Nope. Looks good.

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Gtg

    3. PEPSIMAN
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Looks solid.

    4. Helia
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Cheers.

  27. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 7 days ago

    Nolito, Sane and Navas will probably all start at some point during this fixture run. Assuming Fernandinho, kdb and Silva are nailed to start, the likes of gundagon could be rotated along with the 3 wingers I mentioned

    1. Helia
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Gundogan isnt a winger

      1. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 7 days ago

        I didnt say he was. Its more to do with Silva and Kdb playing centrally to accomodate the wingers, meaning that theres less chance for Gundagon to start?

        1. Helia
          10 years, 7 days ago

          I guess.. but he has been playing with 3 at the back right? If thats the case then theres room for him aswell

  28. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    10 years, 7 days ago

    anyone unsure on gundogan and allen? 2 players not known for scoring goals going through a purple patch or are they the real deal?

    1. Helia
      10 years, 7 days ago

      I feel safer with allen, but waiting to see what they do over these next 2

    2. Bubz
      10 years, 7 days ago

      I'm not very interested in either of them

      1. RustyBz
        10 years, 7 days ago

        This ^

    3. NestorC
      10 years, 7 days ago

      I am not sure which one is good for 4th mid instead of Snod...

    4. Gazj11
      10 years, 7 days ago

      Allen playing in the 10 role is paying dividends. Time will tell if it's a purple patch but I think he'll continue to score and assist.

  29. tets mcgee (Ha La Land)
    10 years, 7 days ago

    any1 without a chili bowl team yet who is interested drop me a line. need a reasonable team in place and the willingness to participate in whatsapp discussions. cheers joelnewman1@hotmail.com

  30. Gideons Rolling Another One
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 7 days ago

    G2G ?

    Foster
    Kos / Stones / Pieters
    Sanchez / Sterling / Allen / Firmino
    Aguero / Costa / Lukaku

    Or thoughts on the transfers below (which would be a -4?)

    Sterling + Kos to Hazard + 5m Defender (Morgan or Cedric if fit)

    Sterling has a good fixture over the next three, and I'm hesitate to transfer him out, but I think Hazard has the potential to match if not do more over the next three and if he does I maybe priced out of the moves.

    Similarly nervous about dropping Kos, but with Bell possible out with the defence be affected and maybe a good time to move on.

    Any thoughts much appreciated.