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Dugout Discussion – Liverpool vs West Ham United

11 December 2016 3338 comments
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The final match of Gameweek 15 sees Liverpool welcome West Ham United to Anfield in the 4.30pm kick-off.

Both Sadio Mane and Roberto Firmino are highly fancied against a Hammers defence that shipped five at home to Arsenal last weekend.

Mane has served up points in five of his six home outings, whilst Firmino will be looking to banish a three-match barren run and return to the form that has already seen him register 15 points in front of his own supporters on two occasions.

Divock Origi looks to score for the fourth successive match in all competitions to strengthen his claim as a mid-price festive frontman.

West Ham, meanwhile, have home encounters with Burnley and Hull followed by a trip to Swansea in the upcoming three Gameweeks.

We’ll be looking for signs of form from Dimitri Payet and the fit-again Michail Antonio, then, while big Andy Carroll is named amongst the subs against his former club, having emerged from the bench to net the Hammers’ consolation against Arsenal last time out.

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  1. Camp No No
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    So, I guess Bilic and Bradley just bought themselves a little time. Can we trust Antonio playing upfront in the nearby future or will he drop to wing back again?

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    1. gaurava1216
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      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      he s on 4 yellows... thats my only fear... carroll back and ayew back i don't see it

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      1. Camp No No
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 8 days ago

        Wait. You don't see what? Him keeping the CF spot? That would be already second fear imo.

        Any chance of playing RW then? Words from Bilic?

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    2. Professor Abel X
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      If Carroll starts he drops back

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    3. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      He always drops back.

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  2. Karan_G14
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    Better option?

    A) Vertonghen

    B) Luiz (Have Alonso)

    Appreciate your thoughts!

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    1. gaurava1216
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      A vs hull and burnely

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    2. BB-8
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      B

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    3. Toure The Route
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      B

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  3. BB-8
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    Brunt (SWA,MUN,ars,sot, HULL)
    OR
    Daniels (LEI,STK,che, swa,ARS)

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    1. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      Daniels

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    2. Toure The Route
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      Brunt
      Nyom is looking solid so Brunt should continue OOP most likely due to set piece speciality.

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  4. Zareos
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    A. Koscelny to Alonso; or
    B. Amat to Alonso?

    A means I can upgrade Firmino to Hazard or KDB in GW17. Thoughts?

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    1. Crystal
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      I'd do A, Arsenal can't keep clean sheets

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    2. hafakilo
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      • 12 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      A sounds good

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  5. phace
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    Attack looks like this currently (1.2 ITB):

    Sanchez/Hazard/Firmino/Siggy/Allen
    Kane/Costa/Diomande

    A) Firmino and Diomande -> Antonio and Origi (1.0 ITB) (-4)
    B) Firmino -> Mane (0.5 ITB) (straight swap - no hit)
    C) Something else.

    N.B. Hull/Stoke have a difficult run of games coming up.

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    1. Professor Abel X
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      B

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    2. youknowho
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      B or Save. Not A at all imo.

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  6. The Great Statuto
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    Guys, any help would be appreciated.

    Llana or Ericsson.

    I have ferminiho and Kane. Thought I'd double up. Which would you recommend?

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    1. Professor Abel X
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      Eriksen

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      1. The Great Statuto
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 8 days ago

        Thanks for the feedback. 🙂

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    2. hafakilo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      eriksen

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      1. The Great Statuto
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 8 days ago

        Cheers, the Swede it is then.

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    3. Coaly
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      At least you spelled Kane right, that's 1 out of 4

      Well done

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      1. The Great Statuto
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 8 days ago

        My English teacher always said as long as it's clear what you are trying to communicate it doesn't really matter. It's the communication that is important and people understand what you mean. I think the fact that you picked up that English is not my first language evidences that. Thanks for saying well done but I do feel it is undeserved now you've pointed out my failings. I will endeavour to do better.

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        1. Coaly
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 8 days ago

          Surnames transcend language

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          1. The Great Statuto
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 8 days ago

            What do you do out of interest? You are quite keen on detail I notice? Is that an aspect of your job/role?

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  7. jimbobmij
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    Origi or Nacho?

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    1. Professor Abel X
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      Origi

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    2. hafakilo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      origi

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  8. HVT
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    Any preference?
    A - Eriksen 8.3, 8% - 4.8ppm, 67 pts
    B - Ali 8.1, 5% - 4.2ppm, 59 pts.

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    1. Can’t beat em so&hell…
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      Alli is playing terribly at the moment, wouldn't be surprised to see him rested

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      1. HVT
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 8 days ago

        Thanks not been watching, but those fixtures draw me in.

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    2. CABAYE4
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      I'm edging towards Alli.

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    3. youknowho
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      A due to set pieces.

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    4. hafakilo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      A

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    5. Van der Faart
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      • 14 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      Wouldn't touch Alli considering he loses the ball every time he touches it lately

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      1. HVT
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 8 days ago

        Thanks all, leaning to Eriksen so

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    6. Ruth_NZ
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      Very tricky and it's a decision I have to make too. The recent stats say Eriksen. But maybe that's temporary?

      Alli showed last season that he has a greater goal threat than Eriksen. He also had a higher points-per-game (6.4ppg for Alli against 5.7ppg for Eriksen). He has been out injured but has played well in recent games (against Chelsea and CSKA for example). And he has a good partnership with Kane, who has been missing for much of the season.

      It all depends whether Pochettino intends to use Alli differently to last season. I don't think he does. In which case I'd marginally prefer Alli with a 0.2 differential. I just wish the recent stats backed that up.

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      1. Coaly
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 8 days ago

        On song Alli all day

        However he's been quite poor so Eriksen is the man for now

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  9. hafakilo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    Austin, Firmino, Lovren to

    A) Kane, Antonio, Muniesa
    B) Origi, Eriksen, Alderweireld

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    1. gaurava1216
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      A all day

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  10. Fred54
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    Anybody contemplating yet another hit for GW16?

    Got Wilson and Firmino to move on and would rather get rid of both!

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    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      No

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    2. hafakilo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      yes

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  11. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    Best move here?

    A) Austin -> Origi
    B) Firmino & Austin -> Eriksen & Iheanacho (-4)

    Cech
    Clyne, Stones, Nyom
    Sanchez, Hazard, Firmino, Fer
    Kane, Costa, Austin

    Pickford, Capoue, Amat, Kone
    Bank 0.0m, 1FT

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    1. gaurava1216
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      Fer won't play again, he was dropped... and they won 3-0

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      1. Jinswick
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 8 days ago

        I dunno, difficult to second guess Bradley.

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    2. hafakilo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      A from your choices, but I would do Firm & Austin to eriksen & Origi

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  12. gaurava1216
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    Fer and Lovren out....

    Payet and 4.5M Def IN (barragan of Mboro maybe)

    yes? no?

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  13. Liftbox
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    Worth keeping Redmond?
    have Sanches-Hazard-Firmino alongside

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    1. gaurava1216
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      no

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  14. KISSES
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    Fer or Zaha?

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    1. gaurava1216
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      fer was dropped yesterday... they won 3-0 why would bradely change it up?

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    2. youknowho
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      Zaha based on form. But he has Afcon coming up and not so easy fixtures. So fer.

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  15. fedolefan
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    Thought Mane is the worst when it comes to getting bonus points, but Antonio is shocking. The trio of Wally, Mane and Antonio have to be the worst bappers in the game. Any others that spring to mind?

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    1. pax888
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      Costa was bad until this season.

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      1. fedolefan
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 8 days ago

        Had to do with the yellow cards and fouls. He's just cleaned that up completely and will be in the baps even with an assist.

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  16. FPL_Hazards
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    Horrible season.

    Whats up with Lovren and Cedric?

    Hits galore

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    1. bpz77
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      cedric rested ! I wouldn't fancy a Liverpool at the moment.

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      1. bpz77
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 8 days ago

        Liverpool Defence *

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  17. white lightning
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    Which one should I bring in for Firmino:
    (a) Payet (b) Alli or (c) Eriksen
    Both Whu & Spurs have both Hull & Burnley at home in the next 2 games.
    Current team with 1ft & 0.6itb
    Foster (Jaku)
    Alonso, Cedric, Pieters (Amat, Holebas)
    Sanchez, Hazard, Firmino, Siggy, Phillips
    Kane (c), Costa (Iheanacho)

    Thoughts & thanks.

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  18. Swanny18
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    Are Firmino owners keeping faith or swapping to Mane?

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    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      Neither

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    2. hafakilo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      swapping to eriksen or payet for their easy fixtures

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    3. MartialMatas
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      I'm thinking of keeping for a week then getting mkhi

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    4. youknowho
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      Payet (C), just did it.

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    5. FPLtfs
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      swapping to someone else to afford Iheanacho --> Costa

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    6. Whats the Huth
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      Keeping.

      I have Mkhit in my sights if he recovers for boxing day

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    7. HVT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      Selling for Eriksen I reckon.

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    8. walkman666
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      Possibly swapping to Payet or Eriksen, or holding.

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    9. Cruz88
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      Mane off to cup of nations soon, Lallana might be a better bet if you want pool cover. Personally I swapped him to Eriksen

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    10. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      Keeping

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      1. rdamjan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 8 days ago

        Keeping for one more game. Then maybe Micky

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    11. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      Been horrendous. Selling.

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  19. Plymouth
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    Best striker for 6.9? Replacing Deeney..

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    1. Canary_Kid
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      Origi or Llorente

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  20. MartialMatas
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    A) Lovren -> Jones. Firmino to Mkhi when fit
    B) Firmino -> Eriksen. Consider Mkhi again when fit
    C) Nacho -> Forward
    D) Other

    Heaton Pickford
    Alonso Lovren Holebas Pieters Amat
    Sanchez Hazard Firmino Siggy De Roon
    Kane Costa Nacho

    1FT 0.3 ITB

    Thanks

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    1. La vida FPL
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      I might bring in Jones too

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    2. FPLtfs
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      I have almost the same team, and think I will do Firm / Nacho --> Costa / Antonio

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  21. Arteta
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    Now I can say: "Sanchez captain fail!"
    7 other players in my team outscored him 😡 I had a bad feeling about Stoke but I knew most of my mini league rivals will captain him and they did. Only one of them went with Hazard. Mane vc hurts a little bit and my third choice was Costa. I should really follow my gut more often.

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    1. youknowho
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      The day you follow your gut, Sanchez scores a double 😛
      Captaincy is a bit about luck too mate. Don't beat yourself up. I had uncaptained Sanchez just a few hours before his 23 point haul.

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      1. Arteta
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 8 days ago

        What if I told you he was my captain 7 times this season ... and I didn't captain him in last two gameweeks when he scored 37 points. Unbelievable! Timing is everything 😐
        And thanks for support!

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    2. pax888
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      I was the same really wanted to go with Mane but I always struggle to take captain risks.

      Went with Sanchez as felt owning Mane was differential enough.

      Only 3 points lost but a lesson learned.

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      1. Arteta
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 8 days ago

        As you said, lesson learned. We have to look forward and risk it every once in a while. 🙂

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    3. Blame It On Rio-ddermorten
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      All of my players outscored Firmino (my captain as well) except Heaton (!)

      Feel your pain.

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      1. Arteta
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 8 days ago

        Oh God, that's even worse. You'll definitely bounce back in a few days!

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        1. Blame It On Rio-ddermorten
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 8 days ago

          Really hope so! Keeping faith in YMA's system (don't have Mané and Firmino was second on the list).

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  22. gaurava1216
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    This has got to finally get me some points!

    Sanchez Hazard Firminio Payet (capoue)
    Kane Costa Anichebe

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    1. Toure The Route
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      Rotating Capoue and Anichebe ?
      why?

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      1. La vida FPL
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 8 days ago

        We don't all have the bank balance to have heavy hitters as well as mid priced options

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  23. andymck
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    Pickford / Marshall
    Alonso / Vertonghen / Holebas / Evans / Amat
    Hazard / Firmino / Son / Sigurdsson / Fletcher
    Costa / Kane / Wilson

    What to do with this lot with 2.7 ITB? Midfield seems like the main problem - Firmino and/or Son probably need to go, don't mind taking a hit if I can get Sanchez with it.

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    1. FPLtfs
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      Firmino / Son -> Sanchez / Antonio?

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      1. andymck
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 8 days ago

        I'm scared of getting Antonio as even with those fixtures it's still West Ham aha.

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  24. semiconductor
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    Without coutinho and with origi, firminho is not being sharp now. With austin my 3rd striker, im thinking of:

    Firminho+ austin to origi+ozil/eriksen (but i have sanchez-Walcott-siggy)

    What do u think? Need ur opinion

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    1. youknowho
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      go for origi + ericksen

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      1. semiconductor
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 8 days ago

        So u think origi a good choice?

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        1. youknowho
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 8 days ago

          As an austin replacement, yes,currently better than the other choices in that range.
          I did the transfer last week for a hit.

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    2. BrockLanders
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      I'm selling Firmino and I've had him from virtually GW1

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      1. semiconductor
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 8 days ago

        To who?

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    3. Toure The Route
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      Why would you even consider Ozil if you have Walcott and Sanchez.
      Eriksen any day

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      1. semiconductor
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 8 days ago

        Would u go eriksen or payet?

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        1. youknowho
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 8 days ago

          Had the same dilemma. i went payet as i felt Kane is sufficient spurs cover

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          1. semiconductor
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 8 days ago

            I do have kane but west ham arent doing well at all

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  25. Sepp Blattered
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    What's the diagnosis for Lovren and Cedric? Who would you transfer out

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    1. BrockLanders
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      Lovren crap in hamstring. Cedric rested I think

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    2. walkman666
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      I have both and would sell Lovren first.

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    3. Toure The Route
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      Have both
      Selling Lovren as the midweek match is 2 days away whereas Cedric is rested and ready to go

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  26. BrockLanders
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    Evening chaps.

    Who would you prefer for the next few games..

    Milner or Antonio?

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    1. Toure The Route
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      Antonio

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  27. Mayo for Sam
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    Best move,

    A Kos > Toby
    B Defoe > Lorente/other

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    1. youknowho
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      A or save

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    2. Toure The Route
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      a

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  28. McSlu
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    Quick question;
    Firm -> Eriksen
    Pedro -> son

    Pool up against Boro and Chelsea against Sunderland.

    Firm, sanchez, siggy, pedro, Allen
    Kane, nacho, costa

    Any other suggestions? Dont mind taking a hit tbh..

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    1. McSlu
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      *or Pedro -> son

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      1. andymck
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 8 days ago

        Son is a much of a rotation risk as Pedro tbh

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  29. dhamphiir
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    I know Mkhitaryan is injured and it is too early to plan transfer ahead but need to save some money to make transfer. What will you rather have out of these from GW 18? (If Mkhitrayan is fit)

    A. Kane + Mkhitaryan
    B. Ibrahimovic + Alli / Eriksen
    C. Kane + Alli / Eriksen

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    1. danishdynamite
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      A al day long

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  30. La vida FPL
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 8 days ago

    Firmino > Antonio

    He stung me hard last time I owned so I'm weary...

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    1. BrockLanders
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      I'm really considering Antonio

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    2. youknowho
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      Don't do it. Lallana a better option or keep faith in Firmi.
      FYI i did Firmi > Payet just now.

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    3. FPLtfs
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 days ago

      Strongly considering it!

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