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11 December 2016 4416 comments
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Diego Costa and the Chelsea defence continue to serve up the Fantasy returns. West Ham and Southampton midfielders add to our festive dilemma, while Sadio Mane and Roberto Firmino’s contrasting form continues in the absence of Philippe Coutinho. Here’s the Stock Check following Sunday’s four matches….

On the Rise

Diego Costa
While Eden Hazard suffered a rare home blank before being replaced before the 80-minute mark, Chelsea’s lone frontman once again delivered.

Costa’s match-winner – his thirteenth set of attacking points in the opening 15 Gameweeks – underlines just why he’s the most popular player in FPL, with an ownership now edging towards 52%.

The Spain international remained in the referee’s good books once more and has now gone nine league appearances since earning a fourth yellow card of the season against Arsenal in Gameweek 6.

Having racked up seven goals and four assists over that period, Costa continues to punish those who remained hesitant due to his potential suspension.

The Chelsea Defence
It’s seven clean sheets in nine now for the Blues, with only two strikes conceded – including a Gary Cahill own goal at Manchester City last week – over that run.

Arriving on the back of a Saturday when only Swansea City managed to keep out their opponents, Antonio Conte’s men remain the only consistent premium-priced defence around.

While Marcos Alonso’s wing-back berth makes him the preferred pick, Cesar Azpilicueta’s ability to deliver bonus points means that the duo offer a very viable option for doubling up at the back for those with the Chelsea slots to spare.

The upcoming schedule continues to suggest they will bring in defensive returns, with trips to Sunderland and Palace preceding back-to-back home matches against Bournemouth and Stoke City.

Sadio Mane and Divock Origi
The recent absence of Philippe Coutinho has resulted in an upturn in consistency from Sadio Mane.

Liverpool have scored seven goals since the Brazilian limped off early on in the Gameweek 13 clash with Sunderland – Mane’s pair of assists against West Ham this afternoon means that he’s played a part in five of them.

Now up to third behind Alexis Sanchez and Eden Hazard in the FPL midfield standings, Mane’s departure for next month’s Africa Cup of Nations will be sorely felt by the Merseysiders.

Nonetheless, Jurgen Klopp should still have him on board for the next five Gameweeks which takes us up to January 2 – handing Mane clashes against Middlesbrough, Everton, Stoke City, Manchester City and Sunderland.

Elsewhere, Divock Origi’s second-half leveller strengthened his claim as a viable mid-price option up front.

The Belgian has now scored in three successive Gameweeks, netting in each of his last four in all competitions. With Daniel Sturridge still stuck in the treatment room, a price of 6.6 and ownership of 4.5% may see the bandwagon continue – over 84,000 FPL managers drafted him in ahead of the West Ham encounter.

Dimitri Payet and Michail Antonio
The West Ham midfield pair passed their Anfield audition ahead of three very favourable fixtures.

Slaven Bilic’s side now host Burnley and Hull City before travelling to Swansea City, with Payet and Antonio making persuasive cases for consideration in our five-man midfields.

Priced at 9.1, Payet produced points for the third successive Gameweek thanks to his long-range free-kick – he’d also supplied assists against United and Arsenal prior to today.

Antonio’s value may appeal to those reluctant to spend big on the Frenchman.

After a run of five straight blanks over Gameweek 6-10, he’s bagged two goals and an assist in his subsequent four league outings and has dropped down to just 6.7.

Sofiane Boufal
Southampton’s club-record signing is off the mark in the Premier League after netting the only goal of a 1-0 home win over Middlesbrough.

Boufal has shown glimpses of his ability in recent cup matches since recovering from a knee injury, yet Claude Puel’s reluctance to hand him regular minutes has deterred us until now.

The Moroccan international’s long-range effort underlined his capability and with Charlie Austin sidelined for three or four months, he adds a much-needed goal threat to a side that scored just twice in the previous four league outings.

With the fixtures smiling kindly all the way through until Gameweek 25, the 6.8-priced playmaker may well have played his way into some managers’ plans. Owned by 0.1%, his differential appeal is obvious.

Phil Jones
Benched for Europa League duties in midweek, the United centre-half returned to the first XI for today’s clash against Spurs at the expense of Eric Bailly.

Priced at just 4.7, Jones has now started five successive Gameweeks and with Bailly set to depart for the Africa Cup of Nations next month, his developing partnership with Marcus Rojo helped keep Harry Kane and company at bay.

United’s defensive prospects are boosted by clashes against Palace, West Brom, Sunderland and Middlesbrough in the next four Gameweeks.

They will be without Antonio Valencia at Selhurst Park, however – the right-back is set to serve a one-match suspension after earning a fifth yellow of the season in today’s victory.

In Decline

Henrikh Mkhitaryan
Handed a second straight start in the top-flight for the first time this term, United’s summer signing looked all set for a place in “On the Rise” in this article after firing the match-winner at home to Spurs.

Mkhitaryan’s strike took his tally to two goals and a pair of assists in his last four appearances across all competitions but just when Jose Mourinho’s patience with the Armenian looked like offering FPL managers a ready-made differential, he was then stretchered off with an ankle problem late in the second-half.

Post-match, the Red Devils manager conceded “it looks like” Mkhitaryan will miss the midweek trip to Crystal Palace and hopes to have him back on board for Boxing Day.

Judging by today’s busy display, it looks only a matter of time before the former Dortmund man finally makes his way onto our radars. With the fixtures coming thick and fast, though, Mourinho’s caution may keep Mkhitaryan on the back-burner for the time being.

Cedric Soares
We handed Cedric a place in this week’s Scout Picks only for Claude Puel to omit the Portuguese defender from his squad altogether as the schedule picks up pace.

Frustratingly, the Saints collected a third clean sheet in four thanks to a 1-0 win over Middlesbrough, with Ryan Bertrand also rested to the bench after starting in Thursday’s Europa League stalemate.

Although Puel’s side are out of Europe, their progress to the EFL Cup two-legged semi-finals next month may well see their manager continue to chop and change at full-back to cope with the congested fixtures, damaging his long-term appeal.

Roberto Firmino
It’s four straight Gameweeks without returns now for the Liverpool midfielder – extending his dryest spell of the season.

While Mane and Origi have both plundered the points in Coutinho’s absence, Firmino clearly misses his compatriot. Stationed on the left flank once again to accommodate Origi, Firmino’s shift out of the “false nine” role is restricting his potential at a time when there’s no shortage of options to consider in midfield.

With Mane departing in January, there’s a fear that Firmino could remain out wide with Origi retaining the central role. Such a scenario could quickly force a rethink on a player who still sits in almost 19% of FPL squads.

The Liverpool Defence
With Loris Karius again failing to convince, Jurgen Klopp’s side shipped another two goals to harm the stock of both Nathaniel Clyne and Dejan Lovren as defensive assets.

The short-term fixtures still suggest that the Reds can deliver additional defensive returns but, with their current custodian remaining so shaky, it’s difficult to have confidence ahead of meetings with Middlesbrough, Everton and Stoke City.

Lovren was also replaced at half-time, with Jurgen Klopp stating this evening that the player was suffering from cramp in his hamstring.

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  1. woody3260
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 12 months ago

    smith to jones a good shout? Jones gonna play?

    1. Stupendous
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      Bailly says hi

  2. Rolls-Royce
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 12 months ago

    Are we selling Bobby?

    1. Stupendous
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      Yes!

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      Why is it "we"?

      1. Ruth_NZ
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        That's the way sheep talk.

        1. Kiwivillan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 12 months ago

          Maybe ewe do

        2. Rolls-Royce
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 12 months ago

          Oh really smartass

        3. fedolefan
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 12 months ago

          Just so I know, how do Chimps talk?

          1. Reedy
            • 15 Years
            8 years, 12 months ago

            Apeist! That's a gorilla

      2. Rolls-Royce
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        We represents general consciousness, not the literal meaning

    3. Swan - Villa Proud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      I likely am.

    4. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      Easily. Been a hugr disappointment. Can't wait to get rid.

  3. Stupendous
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 12 months ago

    How's this looking? Decent enough week with 50pts. Could have gone worse.

    Grant
    Koscielny Walker Martina
    Siggy Payet Hazard Sanchez Eriksen
    Costa Origi

    Pickford Anichebe McAuley Kingsley

  4. AppleDunk
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 12 months ago

    Worth doing Firmino to Eriksen for free?

    1. Swan - Villa Proud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      Yep

      1. AppleDunk
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        Thanks for the reply. Captaincy on Firmino failed.

    2. James101
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      I just did

    3. scootadee
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      did the same

  5. SpaceCadet
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 12 months ago

    Which spurs mid would you go for if price wasn't an issue?

    A. Alli
    B. Eriksen
    C. Son

    1. Stupendous
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      None.

      Eriksen

    2. Jasoooooooo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      Eriksen

    3. Twisted Saltergater
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      It's tricky. Alli had a real off day today where nothing went right.

      I fancy Eriksen as a bit of a flat track bully but only when he's on it, otherwise he can drift about and be happy to assist only.

      Son's place is under threat from Sissoko.

    4. James101
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      It wasn't.

      I went Erik

  6. Rhinos
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 12 months ago

    Had such high hopes for gw15 oh well.
    Valdes
    Alonso Brunt Mcauley Holebas
    KDB Mane Sanchez Hazard (c)
    Kane Benteke

    Rolling out the good old 442 this week

    1. Stupendous
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      That midfield is epic
      Nice team!

      1. Stupendous
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        Balanced. Form players. Fixtures.

        Well done

    2. Misery Loves Kompany
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      Don't see many (non autosub) 4-4-2s! I like it.

      Not sure i'd want to be going without costa long term, but that midfield is hard to beat.

    3. Jamin
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      442 won the prem last year! Nice team Claudio

    4. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      Let me guess your bench:

      Pickford, Amat, De Roon, Diomande

  7. Venom Snake
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 12 months ago

    Yay or nay?

    Pedro/Firmino out for Hazard/Eriksen -4

    1. Grand Thibauto
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      Pedro for Eriksen

      1. Venom Snake
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        Sensible

    2. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      I would

    3. James101
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      I went firm to Erik.

      I have haz too.

      Wouldn't want to be without him.

  8. rainy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 12 months ago

    New players for West Ham:

    Alex Pike (4.0, Defender)
    Marcus Browne (4.5, Midfielder)
    Domingos Quina (4.5, Midfielder)

  9. camarozz
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 12 months ago

    Wasn't Llorente ment to be pretty good where he last played??
    Hopefully just settling into premier league now....
    Only bought him 10 mins ago and already trying to convince myself it was a good idea. Lol at myself.

    1. Worzel Gummidge
        8 years, 12 months ago

        Rather him than Origi

      • Ruth_NZ
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        Averaged around a goal every 3 games in Spain and Italy. That equates to 13 goals a season. Not awful, not spectacular.

      • Werkself
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        He was terrific at Bilbao.

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      Price Changes - 12th December 2016

      🔼 Cahill, Costa, Zaha, C.Benteke, Origi, Llorente

      🔽 Huddlestone, Fuchs, Ulloa, Chirivella, Yaya Touré, Lingard, Austin, M.Wilson, Chadli, Capoue, Deeney, Bastón, Mustafi

      1. Skyarm
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        Fuchs finally

      2. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        Fuchs finally.

      3. Team Cruel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        1 up, 2 down

      4. Knowledgeable meerkat
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        Why would you buy Cahill over Alonso or azpi I don't understand

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          8 years, 12 months ago

          Top 2 for total points in defenders.

        2. Team Cruel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 12 months ago

          Top 2 defender in the game (after Azpi). English, overrated. Easy to see why.

      5. Licious Lizard
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        How much do we expect Aguero to drop before he returns?

        I guess a big part of the 20-ish % of remaining owners are dead teams.

      6. Ryan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        Chur. Llorente punt is quite a risk but who isn't in that price range. Will take the 0.2 for now

      7. Delhidynamo
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        Can rose yesterday?

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          8 years, 12 months ago

          yes

          1. Delhidynamo
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 12 months ago

            Cheers TM

            "Can injury" basic google autocompletes to "can injury cause arthritis"

    3. Pellegrini Falcon
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      Is Lovren okay? Should i sell for VVD? Or get eriksen in for firmino?

    4. Ghost86
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      Play

      A) Cedric (sto)
      B) Smith (lei)

      1. Royal5
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        A

      2. Licious Lizard
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        Cedric if Leicester's perfomance this GW is anything to go by.

      3. kalmoffit
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        A

      4. Ghost86
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        Smith home against Leicester maybe potentially assist

        Cedric away against stoke

    5. kalmoffit
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      Play A Benteke
      B Evans

    6. Delhidynamo
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      Benteke to Kane seems harder to do now for some reason

      Can upgrade should be my priority or Tekkers to Kane?

      1. Team Cruel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        Kane train

      2. kalmoffit
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        Tekkers to Kane

    7. The Wizard of Ozil
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      Thinking of getting Cresswell in for Lovren and then if it fails switch to Valencia

      Surely WestHam will improve and some nice fixtures coming up

      Thoughts?

      1. Licious Lizard
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        After the last few WH games I've watched, I would stay clear of their defence. Horrible.

      2. Jamin
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        I like the thinking just have no faith in hammers D.
        Save yourself a transfer & go straight to Valencia

        1. The Wizard of Ozil
          • 15 Years
          8 years, 12 months ago

          He's suspended this week, will rethink and wait for Lovren update

    8. camarozz
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      If I don't start getting 60/70 points frm here on till January il nvr turn it around. 5 reds in a row. Unreal. Big reds. 215k to 628 k with a team value of 104 /105 during that period.
      Cannot catch a break.

    9. Werkself
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      Anyone tripling up on Spurs?

      1. Dr Mantis Toboggan
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        Rose Eriksen Kane for me. Eriksen will likely go after these fixtures though

      2. Twisted Saltergater
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        I'd like to, just unsure if Poch will rotate in the FB positions.

    10. BananaNose Maldonado
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      Has there been any resolution on Zaha/Ivory Coast/Southgate?

      It's what held me up from doing Gundogan to him, but the lost points are killing me.

        1. BananaNose Maldonado
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 12 months ago

          Thanks. This also screws me a bit for a draft team I have that he's in, but not much I can do about that one.

          1. Licious Lizard
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 12 months ago

            Yeah it a tough break.

            Although his fixtures toughen up and with the AFCON, maybe it is enough reason not to get him (in this game at least).

            1. BananaNose Maldonado
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 12 months ago

              Yeah, I'll be good for GW16, and then will look for options to upgrade Gundo for GW17 or 18. Redmond, Phillips, Fer, Chadli (if he starts getting minutes). There are a few options.

    11. Sanchit
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      Heaton/Robinson
      Holebas Smith Naughton Lowton Pieters
      Sanchez Hazard Firmino Walcott Siggy
      Kane Costa Grabban

      0.1 ITB 2FT

      Thoughts?

      1. Jamin
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        Naughton/Lowton > Nyom

    12. semiconductor
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      I like the moves but regret the (-8) hit i took.

      Lovern+firminho+austin to vertogen+payet+origi

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        Vertonghen and Payet should repay the 8 points. Still not sold on Origi - there isn't even a decent highlights video of him on youtube!

        1. semiconductor
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 12 months ago

          Well, Liverpool lone striker and austin is injured

      2. TLF
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        What made you opt for Payet over Erikson ? I'm considering shipping Firmino for a hit for one of those two

        1. semiconductor
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 12 months ago

          Because i have kane

    13. dark91
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      Is Walcott -> Dele a good idea for this GW (already have Kane and no other Arsenal cover)

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        He could easily score a brace vs Hull. Maybe worth it on a FT, I wouldn't for a hit.

        1. Jamin
          • 15 Years
          8 years, 12 months ago

          Agreed

        2. dark91
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 12 months ago

          Yes it is with a FT , Thanks for your reply 🙂

    14. woody3260
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      Start Capoue (mci) 3-5-2. Or play Two of Smith (lei) /Amat (wba) /McAuley (SWA) in 4-4-2?

    15. Ready Manager One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      A. Which 1 to play?
      1) Holebas
      2) Capoue
      3) Anichebe
      4) Amat

      B. Firmino to Eriksen for 1 FT, Yes or No?

      Team line up:
      Grant
      Alonso-holebas-cedric-jevans
      Haz-Sanchez-Siggy-Firm
      Ibra-Costa
      (Pick; anichebe, capoue, amat)

    16. The Enlightener
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      6th straight green arrow! Can only brag so much, however, as my Overall Rank is still above 400k. Piece by piece. Step by step.

    17. Stretford End
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      Took a punt on Zaha. I know tough fixtures. Crazy or not?

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        I like Phillips vs Swansea at the same price, but he's certainly in form and up against his former club next week. Good luck!

        1. Stretford End
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 12 months ago

          Thanks. Think I need it

      2. tattywelshie
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        Was thinking of doing the same!

      3. Pierce34
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        Not crazy at all if you did it before the weekend! 😉

    18. Twisted Saltergater
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      While BB seems ideal for a DGW, do you think we'll have a perfect storm of fixtures and form to use TC in a second DGW?

      I'm thinking Kane(TC) vs Hull is a pretty good fixture given Palace scored late against Hull making the 3-3 feel like a loss, plus a short week and they don't have a squad to rotate.

      1. Misery Loves Kompany
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        After the DGW triple captain hauls last year for Aguero and Sanchez (I was on the latter) I wouldn't even be considering using it in a single gameweek now.

        Yeah you could get lucky and land a monster, but you're giving yourself a lot more chance of hitting points if it's over 2 games.

        There will almost definitely be more than one DGW, it's up to you to work out which is best to use your BB chip for and which is best for TC. Lot's of people got it the wrong way round last year, always a risk!

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • 16 Years
          8 years, 12 months ago

          Had a mate last year who TC'ed Aguero for his GW8 Newcastle haul!

          My TC went down in flames thanks to Lukaku in DGW33.

          1. Misery Loves Kompany
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 12 months ago

            Yeah I swerved the Lukaku TC, only just though had it on him until the last minute when decided to wait for Sanchez in 34.

            Be grateful you didn't fall into the Andy Carroll TC trap that many on here did... 3 points over 2 games. Ouch!

            1. Twisted Saltergater
              • 16 Years
              8 years, 12 months ago

              Lukaku some how managed 4 x 3 😀

              Strategy was GW32 WC, GW33 TC Lukakau, GW34 BB. I recall it all went very well except for losing Spurs players in GW32 (Kane and Alli dismantled Arsenal?).

              Won my ML thanks to Giroud in GW38!

      2. Reedy
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        I disagree with your opening gambit. I'll probably use my triple C in a DGW though.

        1. Licious Lizard
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 12 months ago

          Why? Usually we have 2 DGWs. Now with the chips it is one for BB and one for TC imo 🙂

          1. Reedy
            • 15 Years
            8 years, 12 months ago

            Because there's no real advantage to using BB in a DGW, IMO. You'll want SGWers in your team still, especially on the bench.

            1. Misery Loves Kompany
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 12 months ago

              The advantage of using your BB in a DGW is your SGW players you don't want to drop or bench (your season keepers with value tied up, or heavy hitters who could explode any game) you can still play (and receive scores for) whilst at the same time getting together a team (usually after a wildcard or some hits) of a load of other players who have 2 games and maximising points that way.

              Some people put together 15 DGW players into a team but for me that's a bit short sighted and you can lose a lot of accrued team value and properly mess up your team that way.

              1. Licious Lizard
                • 12 Years
                8 years, 12 months ago

                +1

            2. Twisted Saltergater
              • 16 Years
              8 years, 12 months ago

              I know what you mean, but I think you can then start your big hitting single GW'ers and load up on budget DGW'ers for your BB. I still think it's worth using BB in a DGW.

              1. Twisted Saltergater
                • 16 Years
                8 years, 12 months ago

                (reply to Reedy)

              2. Reedy
                • 15 Years
                8 years, 12 months ago

                Fair enough both, I take on board your points. I think even before the chips were introduced I never tended to want to go 'overboard' for DGWs, so I suppose it's a question of how you approach them. I'll probably have no more than 8 doublers in my squad and they would all likely be in my starting 11 anyway.

                1. Licious Lizard
                  • 12 Years
                  8 years, 12 months ago

                  Of course you can have different approaches to it.

                  I for one really benefitted from playing the chips in the DGWs last year - not going overboard either. Last year the second DGW came in GW 37, so not a lot of time afterwards with a slightly messed up team.

                  I started "planning" for the DGWs in GW 30 and my only red arrow was in GW 38. I got more than 250 points combined in GW 34 and 37 and from GW 30 until the end of the season I rose from a 55K OR to a 5K OR.

                  different tactics of course, but I still think there is a statistical/tactical benefit of playing the chips in DGWs.

                  1. Reedy
                    • 15 Years
                    8 years, 12 months ago

                    Well played! Perhaps my own stance is coloured by experience, too. I can't remember exactly when I played it but I remember getting 20+pts from BB in a SGW, and being very happy with that. My Triple C I also used in a SGW incidentally, and I realise now that was a waste.

                    1. Licious Lizard
                      • 12 Years
                      8 years, 12 months ago

                      I think it all comes down to when the DGW are and which teams are included, as you mention. Takes a lot of planning and forward thinking - some think it ruins the game, but I actually enjoyed it last. The TC should definitely be used in a DGW imo.

                      20+ points from the BB is decent as well! But let's say you have 4 cheap players on the bench and use the BB in a DGW. Even if they all blank (but play both games), you will still get 4 + 4 + 4 + 4= 16 points from your BB chip.

                      Whatever you choose, good luck.

                      1. Reedy
                        • 15 Years
                        8 years, 12 months ago

                        Cheers, and thanks for the input. Only thing I would say is that DGWers don't always play both games, and there may still be a better week to use it - but I guess using it in a double should raise the floor for points even if it doesn't raise the ceiling (and no-one wants to waste a chip!)

                        1. Licious Lizard
                          • 12 Years
                          8 years, 12 months ago

                          Agreed, which is why I mentioned it as well. And I am definitely not saying it is impossible to use it for more points in a SGW - just that I believe the risk is higher as you say.

                          If for nothing else, keep the chips so you can at least have some interest in reading post on this site when DGW nears haha. As I recall every other post was about how to use chips in DGWs last year 😉

                        2. Reedy
                          • 15 Years
                          8 years, 12 months ago

                          Oh man that's true! I think I went into hiding that week haha

            3. Licious Lizard
              • 12 Years
              8 years, 12 months ago

              I completely agree that you shouldn't fill your team only with DGW players. That is the reason why I think the BB chip is so important in a double game week.

              Example: You don't have to choose playing Sanchez against Hull, Coutino against Chelsea and Bournemouth or Zaha against Swansea and Sunderland...

              The BB chip allows you to play the good daw options, while at the same time still allowing you to play your season keeper options, who might have good games.

              Statistically I could say you would benefit more from the BB chip in a DGW.

              1. Reedy
                • 15 Years
                8 years, 12 months ago

                I suppose it gives you more flexibility. I'll concede that. It probably depends a lot on how the fixtures fall whether it represents an advantage or not.

                1. Licious Lizard
                  • 12 Years
                  8 years, 12 months ago

                  I agree. Look at my post above - last year the second double game week was in GW 37, so you could beef up a bit more on DGW players than usual imo without compromising your team and TV too much.

        2. Twisted Saltergater
          • 16 Years
          8 years, 12 months ago

          Yeah, it's safer, and with Chelsea not in the CL but still in the FA Cup, they could be one of the teams with a DGW. Probably best to wait and see then.

          1. Reedy
            • 15 Years
            8 years, 12 months ago

            Yeah I'd wait. Wouldn't be surprised if Kane ripped up Hull though tbf.

      3. Licious Lizard
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        Save it.
        Would still rather put my TC on Kane vs. Arsenal + Burnley for example.

        Maybe a perfect option occurs with Aguero against Palace and Hull and you'll (probably) be regretting your decision

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • 16 Years
          8 years, 12 months ago

          Yep, makes sense. Good advice.

      4. Sharpe Shuffle
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        The way Kane played v United, I wouldn't trust him with the TC. There will be better opportunities

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • 16 Years
          8 years, 12 months ago

          voice of reason, thanks 🙂

        2. Jamin
          • 15 Years
          8 years, 12 months ago

          Seemed to drop deep/wide a lot, lead to the ManUre goal

          1. Licious Lizard
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 12 months ago

            BIG MAN!

    19. tattywelshie
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      After some words of wisdom from you lot 🙂 Pick one if you would...Firmino to....

      A. Siggy
      B. Erikson
      C. Payet

      1. The Enlightener
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        The Siggmeister

      2. Jamin
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        Siggy

      3. Cheester
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        Eriksen if u think he will play. Risk of rotation here.

        I would love a punt at payet

    20. Sharpe Shuffle
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      Firmino replacement?

      A) Eriksen
      B) Payet

      1. tattywelshie
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        A

      2. Delhidynamo
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        A

      3. Stretford End
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        Payet more consistent. Eric hot and cold

      4. Sharpe Shuffle
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        Thanks. Will watch the West Ham highlights then decide. Nice to not be pressured into an early transfer by price changes for once

    21. Stretford End
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      Does anyone on here think mane will be band.

      1. Jamin
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 12 months ago

        Mane's band:
        Mane Street Preachers

        1. Stretford End
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 12 months ago

          Lol. Banned even

    22. camarozz
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 12 months ago

      Think I need sleep.
      Goodnight.