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21 January 2017 2575 comments
Mark Mark
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A day for differentials.

Liverpool’s Roberto Firmino and West Bromwich Albion’s Gareth McAuley are the only two players with more than 10% ownership to hit double-digits.

Firmino was teetering on the edge prior to the today’s deadline – owned by just over 456,000 FPL managers or 10.6% – the Brazilian had shed 340,000 since Gameweek 16.

Such losses are understandable, sparked by a dismal run of paltry returns. A single goal over ten barren Gameweeks – his strike in a 4-1 victory over Stoke City – did little to stem a tide of rejection. With Sadio Mane and Adam Lallana thriving, Firmino owners were switching allegiance or looking elsewhere as rival heavy-hitters delivered.

Today’s 14-points will reverse matters, for now at least. That fifth double-figure haul for Firmino ironically arrived on a day that saw Philippe Coutinho make a return to the Liverpool starting line-up. Withdrawn on 65 minutes, his comeback was curtailed as he gave way to allow his compatriot to take centre-stage.

While his two goals were not enough to save Liverpool from defeat, Firmino’s own Fantasy stock is revived, just as thousands were making or considering the move for his Brazilian team-mate.

But Coutinho’s early withdrawal has already proved enough to give some early adopters the jitters. Meanwhile, after suffering a third successive blank, Lallana has now returned just a single goal and an assist in six starts.

Based on early transfer activity, both are facing ownership losses over the extended gap to Gameweek 23, with this shifting affection from one Liverpool asset to another typical of behaviour this season.

Two prolonged spells of form from Coutinho’s and Lallana have come close to resolving the argument but, in truth, we look unlikely to ever settle on one of Klopp’s midfield as a dependable “solution”.

Perhaps the key question should be whether we should overlook them altogether.

Two draws and a defeat has stalled the Liverpool title bid, while over the last four Gameweeks, their attacking numbers are settled in mid-table. They face Chelsea next.

Sadio Mane’s absence appears to be a key factor and, arguably, until his return, we should reserve judgement, regardless of Firmino’s flurry.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. RedGunPowder11
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Van anholt or Lovren for Jones.? Thx

    1. Sergeant Garcia
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Wouldn't go near a Liverpool defender... PvA has been quiet for some time now... Keep!

      1. RedGunPowder11
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Ai ai Sergant G. 🙂

    2. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Neither.

  2. mgrea
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Ideal WC teams?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      The template + 5 differentials.

      1. tisza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        daft question probably - but the template being 6 or 10 players? ie starting 11 or whole squad.

    2. Jake Donahue
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      15 DGW players

      1. Big_Bear
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        15 players which are going to play DGW the following week 🙂

        1. Jake Donahue
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          You know what I mean

  3. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Repost for overnight article

    Last Man Standing Update

    Safety score = 17
    Top score = 69
    LMS average = 28.14

    3 games + autosubs to go.

    1. Jake Donahue
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      How many left in?

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        798

    2. Jonjo Shall_We? (Flowers - …
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Any idea about average players left per team?
      On 20 with 5 to go including captain "pedro"

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Safe to say Alonso, Sanchez, Heaton and Hazard will be in quite a few.

        1. Jonjo Shall_We? (Flowers - …
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          You're right
          Own sanchez and alonso
          Hazard and no arsenal defence though is giving me jitters

  4. Syd.
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Firminos teeth is that picture are very bright

    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      They really are that bright in real life. Maybe even brighter.

      1. Syd.
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        What toothpaste does he use?

        1. Epic Fail
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Gargles with bleach I think.

        2. Fred54
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Holgate.

          1. Syd.
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 2 months ago

            McClean?

    2. Sergeant Garcia
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Firmino's teeth are brighter than my future.

    3. Sweetboi
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      And that's black and white...they're ridiculous in colour.

      1. Cilly Bonnolly
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        What colour are they?

  5. The Royal Robin
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    What would you do with this lot, with 2 FT's?

    Foster
    Daniels Rose Baines
    Sanchez Phillips Alli Hazard
    Defoe Ibra Giroud

    (Grant Mee Chambers de Roon)

    1. Arn De Gothia
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Deroon -> carrol

      1. The Royal Robin
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        de Roon is a midfielder.

        1. Arn De Gothia
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          So is Carroll in swansea

        2. Fred54
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Tom Carrol.

      2. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        4 mids 4 forwards . That's novel.

        1. Mr Dave
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Swansea carroll maybe?

        2. Boyd to Sven
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Tom Carroll?

  6. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    I'm going to sue this site. There was no flashing image warning before I opened this article.

    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      I would sue too, but I literally died when I opened it.

  7. F4L
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Coutinho ->:

    A - Barkley
    B - Mirallas
    C - Antonio

    or take a hit to switch formations back to 3-4-3 and put Lukaku in instead?

    1. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      C if you must but Cout will come good soon.

    2. Sweetboi
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      A

    3. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      *Lanzini

  8. FPL Panda
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Alli or Eriksen for hazard folks ?

    Was on ericksen all week for consistency but alli seems to be right on it atm ?

    Don't have Kane

    Cheers

    1. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Erik

    2. JAC THE CAT
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      I like Alli

    3. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      E

    4. Niemi
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Eriksen and consistency are two words that don't belong together.

    5. F4L
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Alli, gets in better positions

    6. Fred54
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Currently have both but if pushed Eriksen would go.

    7. Hy liverpool
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      I love eriksen more ... but alli just.

    8. K-win
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Both

    9. Klopp For The Kopps 😆
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Alli
      His positioning is Very Good which isn't shown by Stats

  9. Niemi
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Aguero>Kane or Hazard>Alli? Would have done both if I didn't have pressing issues at the back as well.

    1. JAC THE CAT
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Hazard -> Alli

      1. Jake Donahue
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Not after his hatrick tomorrow

        1. JAC THE CAT
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          I would still sell him

      2. Niemi
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        That's what I'm leaning towards as well. Hazard's stats doesn't look promising and Aguero has better fixtures. Not that Aguero's stats are any good, but he got better fixtures and I can always get Costa or Kane later on.

    2. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Probs A! Monitor tomorrow see if Haz explodes

    3. nkhoughton
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Ship aguero before hazard, all those shipping hazard are gonna get burnt

  10. Scratch
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Hazard, Aguero, Negredo -> Eriksen, Kane, Lukaku/Giroud (-4)

    or any better suggestions?

    Squad:
    Foster / Pickford
    Rose, Alonso, Baines, McAuley, Amat
    Sanchez, Phillips, Hazard, Snodgrass, De Roon
    Aguero, Ibra, Negredo
    2 FT / 0.2m ITB

  11. nkhoughton
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Is it not a bit hasty to ship hazard out before He has even played against Hull? The market is very unforgiving this season, people making rash decisions a lot more than previous seasons.

    1. Jake Donahue
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Agreed, but a blank and he gone

    2. Crow
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      The inconsistency is making people to do that I think

    3. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Yep, but it won't stop people anyway. Get your points and let others worry about the market.

    4. JAC THE CAT
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      A lot will depend on who it's for.

    5. Numb
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Daft to sell him before he's played, obviously. He's one of the quality FPL players and if he can add some confidence with a goal or two tomorrow he'll be essential again.

      1. nkhoughton
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        I think he's essential for the rest of the season look at his home fixtures too good to sell imo

  12. Royal5
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Anyone know how many played their captains? Guessing most got Chelsea or Sanchez.

    1. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      https://fpldiscovery.wordpress.com/tag/top-10k/
      18.6% top 10k
      51% otherwise.

    2. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Quite high as the most captained was Ibra

      1. Royal5
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Didn´t know this. Thanks

      2. Fred54
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Not alot between Ibra and Sanchez in OVERALL off the top of my head.

    3. JAC THE CAT
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      A lot will have Ibrahimovic

    4. MTPockets
        9 years, 2 months ago

        19%/52% Top 10k/Overall

      • Royal5
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Thanks all 🙂

    5. Crow
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Sup lads, any changes to this team?

      Heaton pickford
      Alonso baines brunt (jones love)
      Alli hazard sanchez phillips (can)
      Ibra gru negredo

      1.7itb 1ft

      Want negredo out. Any ideas?
      Willing to take hits!

      1. Hy liverpool
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Save imo ... probably play jones over negredo

    6. Fred54
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Coutinho was subbed off on 57min not 65min. I know its small but every point counts in a week like this!

    7. Hy liverpool
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Keeping kane vs ibra vs kane would be my dilemma this week !

      It's good dilemma when it comes to big hitters I think

      1. Hy liverpool
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Keeping kun*

      2. Crow
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        You're not wrong, but I'd have ibra he is essential

    8. Baked baines
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Lovren & De Pen > Walker & Davies -4

      Yay or Nay??

      1. Team Cruel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Who/what is De Pen?!

      2. JAC THE CAT
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Nope

      3. Ridcully
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        I have an inkling you should keep de Pen.

    9. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Worth a - 8?

      Hazard - > Lanzini
      Lallana - > T. Carroll
      Diamonde - > Kane
      Defoe - > Lukaku

      Gives a team of....

      Heaton
      Alonso / Baines / McAuley
      Sanchez / Eriksen / Lanzini / Phillips
      Ibrahimovic / Kane / Lukaku

      Jakupovic / Friend / Pieters / T. Carroll

      1. JAC THE CAT
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        I don't like the moves for a -8

      2. MTPockets
          9 years, 2 months ago

          lanzini vs mci didn't go so well last outing.

          1. We Will Klopp you
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 2 months ago

            He only played 31 minutes though

            1. MTPockets
                9 years, 2 months ago

                fa cup

        • We Will Klopp you
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Team is:
          Heaton (Grant)
          Brunt Rose Baines Chambers (Alonso)
          Stanislas Phillips (S)anchez Alli (Fraser)
          Kane Ibra (Defoe)

          A) Coleman in for Chambers
          B) Lanzini in for Fraser

          1. We Will Klopp you
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 2 months ago

            Either for free btw

          2. JAC THE CAT
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 2 months ago

            A

          3. MTPockets
              9 years, 2 months ago

              Do you really need 5 premium defenders?

              1. We Will Klopp you
                • 9 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                I'm playing 4-3-3/5-3-2 depending on fixtures due to lack of desirable midfielders so it gives me more options + what if they all score/assist in a gameweek *money emoji*?

                1. MTPockets
                    9 years, 2 months ago

                    A in that case.

                    1. We Will Klopp you
                      • 9 Years
                      9 years, 2 months ago

                      Thanks for your help

            • Differentiator
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 2 months ago

              As a Sanchez owner, really hoping for a big juicy 2-3 pts tomorrow... EO so high.

              1. JAC THE CAT
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Sounds good!

                1. Epic Fail
                  • 15 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  This

            • Olivier Bernards watch
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 2 months ago

              anyone know what happened to Holebas? Serious injury?

              1. Epic Fail
                • 15 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                banned

              2. JAC THE CAT
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Not sure but it's time to move the guy on anyway.

              3. MTPockets
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Suspended for 10 yellows anyway.

                • Fred54
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Mentally yes.

                  (Suspended forever.)

                • Olivier Bernards watch
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  ah okay, thanks

                • Syd.
                  • 16 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Suspended for 2 games 1 of which is in the FA Cup

                • Olivier Bernards watch
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  actually, if it's just a yc suspension I might keep him. I would have benched him next week anyway (away to Arsenal), then he has some good fixtures after that.

              4. Hy liverpool
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Early captain poll for next gw ??

                Currently on Bobby for me

                1. JAC THE CAT
                  • 12 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Early thoughts are on Sanchez

                  1. Hy liverpool
                    • 12 Years
                    9 years, 2 months ago

                    Yep .. but you would want baines/Goaleman I think

                    1. Hy liverpool
                      • 12 Years
                      9 years, 2 months ago

                      Rf to hvt

                    2. JAC THE CAT
                      • 12 Years
                      9 years, 2 months ago

                      I've got Baines but will never captain.

                2. Syd.
                  • 16 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Ibra

                3. Sess!
                  • 15 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Ibra or Kane....well any spurs player really.

                  1. Hy liverpool
                    • 12 Years
                    9 years, 2 months ago

                    You gave up on your team sess?

                4. Bun Rab
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Sanch.

                5. 824545201
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Between, Sanchez, Ibra or Alli.

                6. Olivier Bernards watch
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  gotta be ibra

              5. HVT
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 15 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Funes Mori nailed?

                1. JAC THE CAT
                  • 12 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Might take some shifting.

                  He's doing himself no harm.

                  1. HVT
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 15 Years
                    9 years, 2 months ago

                    4.6 looks good/Holgate 4.1 looks an ideal replacement for Amat too, possibly even Yoshida.

                    1. JAC THE CAT
                      • 12 Years
                      9 years, 2 months ago

                      Defiantly, some good options appearing in that Everton defence.

                      I've already got Baines but might double up with Holgate.

                2. Hy liverpool
                  • 12 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Yep .. but you would want baines/Goaleman I think

              6. Rhinos
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Evening. Love it when a crazy move pays off,
                Stanislas to Firmino. Has screwed my team over though, I really should think these things through 😆

                Valdes
                Baines Brunt Bellerin Alonso Friend
                Sanchez Hazard (c) Firmino Ozil
                Aguero
                Pickford De Roon Anichebe J Benteke

                Might see how 541 goes just for the hell of it

              7. white lightning
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Any suggestions for my team. 2ft & 3.0itb

                Foster, Valdes
                Alonso, Rose, Lovren, Jones, Pieters
                Sanchez, Alli, Lallana, Phillips, Stanislas
                Ibra, Giroud, Defoe

                Do this for free:
                Lovren out - Coleman/Baines/Brunt in - favouring Coleman atm
                Lallana out - Eriksen in

                Or any other suggestions?

                Thoughts & thanks.

                1. Team Bobcat
                  • 9 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  I think lallana out Erikson in is a good move.

                  I wouldn't touch defence yet. Next week you have

                  Alonso Jones Rose.

                  Even if you brought Coleman/brunt in would you drop Alonso?

                  I would save myself the defensive head ache for now.

                  1. white lightning
                    • 12 Years
                    9 years, 2 months ago

                    Thanks mate. I was going to play 4-4-2 & bench Defoe v Spurs.

              8. MY DJ NAME IS PIMP CURRY
                • 15 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Baines or Coleman?

                1. Rhinos
                  • 12 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Coleman prob but I'm happy with baines

                2. Bun Rab
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Flip a coin, both good options.

                3. JAC THE CAT
                  • 12 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Baines

              9. JIM BOB
                • 9 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Would you rather own Mkhi or Barkley for a draft league?

                1. Rhinos
                  • 12 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Mhiki

                2. HVT
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 15 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Barks I think.

                3. Syd.
                  • 16 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Barks

                4. Bun Rab
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Barkley. More minutes.

              10. klavan
                • 9 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Cech, pickford
                Alonso, walker, brunt, holebas, amat
                snachez, eriksen, lallana, phillips, stanislas
                Ibra, lukaku, origi

                Worth -4 hit?
                Origi>Barnes
                Lallana>Alli

                1. MY DJ NAME IS PIMP CURRY
                  • 15 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Can you afford Carroll?

                  1. klavan
                    • 9 Years
                    9 years, 2 months ago

                    Yes but want to play 3-5-2 and upgrade stanislas after next game

                2. Bun Rab
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Can you do Lala to Firm/Cout, you already have Erik.

              11. Viper
                • 16 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                A. Lallana - > Alli & Holebas - > Brunt. No hit (I own McAuley)

                B. Hazard - > Alli & Holebas - > Rose. No hit (I own Kane, if that matters)

                1. HVT
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 15 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Haz/Hol > Alli/Brunr.

                  1. Viper
                    • 16 Years
                    9 years, 2 months ago

                    Brunt over Rose even though it would mean double Wba?

                2. klavan
                  • 9 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  B

                3. JAC THE CAT
                  • 12 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  B

              12. grig
                • 9 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Kneejerking happening I think.

                Heaton - Robinson
                Alonso - Baines - Holebas - Evans - Amat
                Sanchez - Hazard - Lallana - Phillips - Stanislas
                Ibra - Kane - Origi

                I was considering upgrading Holebas & Evans -> Rose and Brunt. Is that too much on defence? I'd hold off from Rose if Toby is out I suppose, but if he is fit..

              13. Syd.
                • 16 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                BFS is having a bad 6 months