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Mohamed Salah marks his Liverpool debut with a goal, but Brighton’s main man Anthony Knockaert is injured as the pre-season schedule gathers pace.

Elsewhere, a Dwight Gayle double does the trick for Newcastle United, and Jonathan Walters opens his account for Burnley.

Here’s the run-down on last night’s action.

Wigan Athletic 1 Liverpool 1

Mohamed Salah scored on his Liverpool debut as more members of the Reds’ potent midfield were given their first pre-season outing at Wigan Athletic.

The summer signing from Roma, who has already tempted 11.4% of Fantasy Premier League managers to invest in him, struck on the stroke of half-time when he converted a Roberto Firmino pass.

Manager Jurgen Klopp fielded Salah, Philippe Coutinho and Adam Lallana in an attacking first-half team set up in a 4-3-3, with goalkeeper Simon Mignolet also handed his first start as the Reds upped their preparations for the new campaign.

Liverpool’s shape was difficult to assess, with Klopp clearly allowing for fluidity in his formation. Georginio Wijnaldum appeared to take up the number six role as a deep lying midfielder, with Ben Woodburn and Lallana also dropping alongside him at times. Roberto Firmino played as the central attacker, although he swapped with Salah throughout the first period.

A completely different side took to the pitch of a second half that even Klopp was forced to admit was ‘a little bit boring, to be honest’.

Of rather more interest to Fantasy managers were local reports that Liverpool, as well as upping their bid for RB Leipzig midfielder Naby Keita, are in advanced talks with Hull City over the signing of left-back Andy Robertson.

Should Robertson make the move, the 10.5%-owned James Milner’s place at left-back will no longer be assured, particularly as Klopp will have to rotate his squad to cope with the demands of Champions League football. Milner would, however, be expected to retain a starting role initially.

Liverpool XI First half: Mignolet; Alexander-Arnold, Matip, Klavan, Flanagan; Wijnaldum, Lallana, Woodburn; Salah, Coutinho, Firmino.

Liverpool XI Second half: Karius; Gomez, Stewart, Lovren, Milner; Henderson, Grujic, Chirivella; Solanke, Sturridge, Origi.

Brighton And Hove Albion 2 Fortuna Dusseldorf 0

Star man Anthony Knockaert lasted only ten minutes of Brighton’s first pre-season match.

The 8.5%-owned midfielder limped off after receiving treatment to an injury sustained in a heavy tackle and later left the ground on crutches, his leg encased in a protective boot.

Hughton confirmed post-match that the Frenchman had suffered an ankle injury.

“It’s too early to tell at the moment. He’s a little bit sore and got some swelling on his ankle. We’ve had incidents in the past with Anthony where we thought it was going to be bad, but he’s always made good recoveries. We hope it’s the same with this one, but we certainly won’t know anything about the injury for another couple of days.”

Should Knockaert be out for a lengthy spell, it will be a bitter blow for manager Chris Hughton, who will have to start the Seagulls’ top-flight campaign without the Championship player of the year.

The injury overshadowed a 2-0 win for Brighton, with two late goals in as many minutes from Jamie Murphy and Tomer Hemed securing the victory.

Scots winger Murphy cut inside to open the scoring in the 77th minute before Hemed doubled the lead, the Israeli striker scoring from an Oliver Norwood cross.

Hughton used a 4-4-1-1 formation throughout, handing new signing Markus Suttner his first start at left-back, while defender Connor Goldson made his first appearance since heart surgery in the second-half team.

Fellow new boy Mat Ryan didn’t figure – the Australian keeper has been given extra time to recover from his participation in the Confederations Cup.

Brighton XI First half: Maenpaa; Bruno, Duffy, Dunk, Suttner; Knockaert (LuaLua 10), Stephens, Kayal, March; Gross; Murray.

Brighton XI Second half: Maenpaa; Rosenior, Goldson, Huenemeier, Bong; Murphy, Sidwell, Norwood, Skalak; Towell; Hemed.

Shamrock Rovers 0 Burnley 4

All three of Burnley’s summer signings started the match in Dublin, with veteran Jonathan Walters marking his debut with an early goal.

The Republic of Ireland international scored after just nine minutes, having been put through by fellow new boy Jack Cork, in a team that also featured former Leeds United full-back Charlie Taylor.

Walters was then substituted after just 33 minutes, although to date there has been no explanation as to why, as Burnley had to wait for three second-half goals to confirm their superiority.

Ashley Barnes made it two, curling home after collecting a Matthew Lowton long ball, before Robbie Brady hit the third following good work by Stephen Ward.

Sam Vokes, the 6.0-priced striker who finished last year in fine form on the way to a ten-goal season haul, rounded off the scoring, albeit in fortuitous fashion.

The Welsh international attempted to duck out of the way of a Jeff Hendrick half-volley, only for the ball to hit him on the back and go in off the bar.

Burnley XI First half: Heaton; Darikwa, Tarkowski, Mee, Taylor; Defour, Cork; O’Neill, Gudmundsson, Walters (Agyei 34); Gray.

Burnley XI Second half: Pope; Lowton, Anderson, K Long, Ward; Ulvestad (Agyei 78), Westwood, Hendrick, Brady; Vokes, Barnes (C Long 85).

Heart of Midlothian 1 Newcastle 2

Dwight Gayle started pre-season where he left off in the Championship, grabbing both goals in a fine first-half display at Tynecastle.

The striker was the Magpies’ top scorer last season, hitting 23 goals from 26 starts, and his brace will have pleased the 11.8% of Fantasy managers who have currently made him their cut-price third forward.

New signing Florian Lejeune was given a run-out in defence for the second half by coach Rafa Benitez, but it was a returning midfielder who caught the eye.

Siem De Jong was back at the club following a loan spell with PSV Eindhoven, and he picked out Gayle with a fine pass for the first goal, part of a fine performance that suggested the Dutchman has a point to prove to Benitez.

De Jong played the No 10 role in a 4-4-1-1 formation from Benitez.

Jonjo Shelvey provided the assist for the Magpies’ second, picking out Gayle with his corner kick.

Matt Ritchie, who played a key role in leading Newcastle to the Championship title, played no part as he continues to recover from a groin operation back in April, while defender DeAndre Yedlin did not feature following his international exertions for the USA.

Newcastle XI First half: Elliot; Clark, Lascelles, Mbemba, Haïdara; Aarons, Shelvey; Diamé, Atsu, De Jong; Gayle.

Newcastle XI Second half: Elliot; Lejeune, Dummett, Mbemba (Hanley 62), Haïdara (Colback 62); Gamez, Shelvey; Diamé (Armstrong 62), Perez, De Jong; Mitrovic.

A reminder that all the friendly results and key Scout Notes are being captured here, in our Pre-Season Guide.

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  1. Ser Davos
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Surprise packages in FPL players and sides?

  2. applebonkers
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    • 16 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    west brom's first 5 are decent no?

    feeling one of phillips or chadli could get off to a flier

    1. StalkingDwarf
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      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Wouldn't surprise me if they do. Wouldn't surprise me if they flop. I'm leaning towards flop, but that's based how they played when they already achieved safety and when Pulis gave up on the league. Preseason will be helpful with West Brom and Southampton attack.

    2. bojack
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I heard Chadli had fallen out with the cap wearing one.

      1. applebonkers
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        • 16 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        yeah, reports he wanted a personalised training after struggling a bit post injury last season which the old school stereotype of pulis would surely hate. seems they have kissed and made up now though, he's on the latest tour

    3. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Phillips. Takes the corners.

    4. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Have a look at the stats before you diss my Portuguese friend Cedric.

      1. applebonkers
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        • 16 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        surely you don't get unlucky for 2 seasons (not like he lit it up in portugal either). quality always beats quantity.
        not dissing the pick, just surprised just how overwhelming he was as the southampton option.

  3. Waxys
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Any chance Bernardo Silva is a starter as he can play in a wide variety of positions? Maybe even David Silva?

    1. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      especially if aguero stays as a starter that team is just messy. so messy surely alexis isnt a target. would guess b.silva might be sitting on the bench with sterling

      1. Waxys
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        He is too good for bench though

        1. applebonkers
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          • 16 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          i agree, sexiest player in the CL last season. problem is sane, dilva, kdb, jesus and aguero are all arguably the same

  4. bojack
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Be canny if you didn't have to log in twice to get to members section.

    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 17 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Once for me.

  5. The Head-Ake
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    After a lot of confusion, I've settled on this :

    Begovic/Foster - Maenpaa
    Trippier Lindelof Yoshida Ake Rangel
    Eriksen Coutinho Willian David Silva RLC
    Lukaku Lacazette Gayle/Deeney

    Tell me its weakness and how balanced it is.

    1. bojack
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Lacks Kane and I don't like the David Silva pick.

    2. Sandy Ravage
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Good looking team. Silva is a quality player but doesn't get decent points consistently

      1. The Head-Ake
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Should I get rid of City all at once? Don't really like them FPL-wise

  6. Emiliano Sala
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    A) mustafi + redmond
    B) willian + dawson

    1. StalkingDwarf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A

    2. arthadox
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A

  7. arthadox
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    8 - 2 Chelsea. Remy goal.

    1. arthadox
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Another penalty.

    2. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Remy is still a Chelsea player 😮

    3. Rogue Todd
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Michael Mouse

  8. bejzu
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Jesus nailed?

    1. bojack
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      He was aye.

  9. Jim Bexley Speed
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Feel like this is close to my final team for wk1.

    Foster (Myhill)
    Cedric - Lindelof - Trippier (Hunemeier - Rangel)
    Alli - Loftus-Cheek - Salah - Willian - Zaha
    Kane(V) - Lukaku(C) (Austin)

    Money left = zip

  10. applebonkers
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    • 16 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    this chelsea game is jokes, even boselli would get a hattrick

    1. Egg noodle
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Now you are crossing a line.

  11. Waxys
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Even the Chelsea B team are smashing Fulham. Everyone still on the William hype train?

  12. Egg noodle
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Double up on Alli and Eriksen anyone?

    1. StalkingDwarf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Not a bad idea.

    2. bojack
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Eriksen and Kane for me.

      1. Ser Davos
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Interesting combo that

    3. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      both way underpriced based on last season so on that basis yes. boo to the wembley hoodoo

      1. Egg noodle
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Same with Coutinho to be fair. Great value in midfield.

        1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Best value in the game. 🙂

        2. applebonkers
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          • 16 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          yeah coutinho looks far too low when you look at his goal output now with klopp. 1 in 2 man

          1. Ser Davos
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Those three's value looks immense. Mane too post recovery.

            Decisions, decisions.

  13. Jamie_GAWA
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Thoughts on Tom ince as an option?

    1. Flynny
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Don't think so

    2. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      seems one of those guys who will have a big month somewhere but you'll have no idea when it will come. seems a bit flaky

    3. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      One to monitor.

  14. Flynny
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Starting to see more and more teams without kane.

    Starting to see jesus and lukaku and a 4.5 with a pretty heavy 5 man midfield

    What are people's views on that option?

    Is it an unnecessary risk to start with no kane?

    1. StalkingDwarf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      If the money you get from losing Kane can be put to better use, than it's a perfectly viable option. There are other big hitters out there and missing out on one shouldn't hurt much.

    2. Ser Davos
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Will you captain him early on?

    3. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      think we're possibly blinded by 2 freak games at the end of last season with kane. with those games considered it's too big a risk. without them it's a valid move, more competition and a higher price this time round

      1. Harper_
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        You are right, those last 2 games have created such a big problem for me both this season and last

  15. Wrong Captain Again
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Anymore leagues to join?

    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 17 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Plenty

      1. Wrong Captain Again
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I've been playing (and lurking) on this site for years but hardly post so I can't join the frequent posters league and so what more have I got to join? (Excluding the members league)

        1. TorresMagic™
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          • 17 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          FFS League, my league in grav.
          http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/comment/15847082 is a whole hot topic on them.

        2. Wrong Captain Again
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Thanks very much TM

          1. TorresMagic™
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            • 17 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            You're welcome. 🙂

  16. merin
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Hunemener or Long for 4m in DEF?

    1. Jake.l_8
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Hun

    2. Harper_
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Nobody is going to get gametime so go with the lowest owned so less chance of price fall

      1. merin
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        How about going for the highest owned to possibly get a raise?

  17. Danstoke82
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Hello all, my first go at this. Any advice on this RMT?

    Foster
    Trippier Lindelof Cedric
    Alli Coutinho Redmond Willian
    Kane Lukaku Austin

    Subs; Myhill Chalobah Yedlin Rangel

    £0.0ITB

    1. My Name Is Prince
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      We ain't playing 3-4-3 anymore...

      1. Danstoke82
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        What are we playing?

  18. Budweiser
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    a) Tadic & Willian
    b) Townsend & Pogba (Have Lukaku and Benteke)

  19. Tickle Me Enzo
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Chelsea 8 - 2 Fulham. Remy goal

    1. datamunkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Where you tracking this Kante? Line up and scorers available anywhere? Thx

      1. StalkingDwarf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Chelsea twitter

        1. datamunkey
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Ahh, ta 😉

  20. The Yorkshire Pirlo
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    1. Lacazette, Alli, Pogba, Dawson, Rangel

    vs.

    2. Kane, Ramsey, Pogba, Dawson, Rangel

    vs.

    3. Defoe, Alli, Ramsey, Milner, Kompany

  21. Hank89
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Thoughts? I'm happy and terrified at the same time...

    Foster (Begovic)

    Ake / Trippier / Lindelof (Rosenior / Rangel)

    Pogba / Sane / Willian / Alli (RLC)

    Rooney / Lukaku / Lacazette

    Can I be without Kane?

    1. Budweiser
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Looked good until I saw Rooney

      1. Hank89
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        No love for Rooney? I just see with all the money spent at Everton and him being there most likely and decisive striker he'll be going all out to disprove the haters...

        1. Andy_Social
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          If only he could play against part-time Kenyans every week.

          1. Hank89
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Who would be a viable option to replace based on price / returns?

    2. bojack
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      If you're going without Kane I'd want Eriksen and Alli.

  22. Harper_
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    If you had no Man City players and already had Kane would you go with De Bruyne or Alli?

    1. Budweiser
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      KDB

    2. My Name Is Prince
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Sane

    3. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Alli, but he’s cheaper

    4. Harper_
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Cheers

  23. BilalM
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    How 'bout this team then.
    First draft. RMT

    Foster /Elliot
    Lindelof / Cedric/ Trippier /Mee /Tommy Smith
    Salah /Sane /Mkhitaryan /Redmond /RLC
    Lukaku /Lacazette /Gayle

    1. Harper_
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Salah, Sané and Mkhitaryan are all kinda risky. Apart from that very decent

    2. Jake.l_8
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Almost the same team as me! I like it except Sane and Mkhi aren't defo starters but at the same time they could easily be

    3. bojack
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Wouldn't get Miki.

  24. The Big Fella
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Kompany or Walker? 6.5 is very expensive.......

    1. My Name Is Prince
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Kompany of course

    2. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Walker

  25. JÆKS ⭐
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    So did Lacazette play behind Giroud in both games or did I get that wrong?

  26. F4L
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Pffff, if a game is played behind close doors, you have to ask the question, whether it really happened?

    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 17 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Fulham 2 Chelsea 8

      1. F4L
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        scoring two against Chelsea would have been considered quite an achievement last season 😉

        1. TorresMagic™
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          • 17 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          You said Fulham would get promoted. Would have been great for captaining. 😉

  27. -SB-
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Pickford
    Monreal David Luiz Jagielka
    Countinho Sanchez Herrera Loftus-Cheek Wanyama
    Lukaku Kane

    Subs: Elliot Trippier Ayew Rangel

    What you think?

    1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Lots of differentials... Luiz, Jag, Herrera, Wanyama, and even Monreal.... risky but maybe you know something...

  28. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Very rough estimate but Sigurdsson's volume lead to him having 14.3 xA from dead crossing ball situations alone. Eriksen next highest on 9.6 xA

    Rough estimate again but Sigurdsson took 233 of Swansea's 244 crossed set plays. Not sure he'll have that monopoly at Everton but this stuff shows the true value of having someone who takes crossing set plays across an entire season.

    1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      i.e. the designated dead ball striker. Yes.

      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Here's the problem, no one is likely to have numbers near Eriksen, let alone Sigurdsson.

        1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Yeah, you have a point there.

  29. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Jonjo Shelvy on Corners!!!!!

    1. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      meh, colback is on throw-ins

  30. b✪mber
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    How do you guys start the season in relation to doubles and money ITB?

    How many attacking/defensive/split doubles do you start with?
    How many attacking/defensive/split doubles do you think are "fine" to start off with?
    Do you consider starting with a triple from a certain team?
    How about money ITB for flexibility?

    1. F4L
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I just pick the players who I think will score me the most points; simple as

      1. b✪mber
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I do too, but sometimes I'm wrong 🙂

      2. Andy_Social
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Yeh, me too. Don't over-complicate things.

    2. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I just pick the players I think will score more

      #revolutionary

    3. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Doubling up on Southampton defense is the only defense double I am considering; probably the only double overall.

      1. b✪mber
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I got a split on Soton (1 of Cedric/Yoshi+Tadic) and a defensive w Dawson+Foster. Considering Lacazette+Ramsey, but I think it'll be too much.

      2. Andy_Social
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Me too. United also makes sense, but I've got Pogba and Lukaku.