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Our series of summer members’ articles continues this afternoon as we assess what’s on offer at the managerial merry-go-round that is Watford.

To begin with, we analyse the Hornets’ performances on a team level, checking out last season’s data in order to spot trends and areas of improvement. Following that, we take a look at the players to pinpoint their key individuals.

For this article, we also focus on new manager Marco Silva’s impact on his former club Hull City after an impressive stint at the KCOM Stadidum during the second half of 2016/17.

Watford parted company with Quique Sanchez Flores at the end of 2015/16, scoring 40 times on their way to finishing in thirteenth spot on 45 points.

Yet the now-departed Walter Mazzarri failed to improve upon those performances in his only season at the helm. The Vicarage Road outfit scored the same number of goals but picked up just 40 points, ending the campaign in seventeenth position.

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  1. Miami Monkey
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    LASCELLES IS NOT A STARTER. GET LEJEUNE

    1. *sigh*
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      If Carlsberg did top of the page posts....

      1. Oven Glover
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        They'd probably be the best top of the pages in the world

        1. *sigh*
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          You putting Fer in bud? Playing well preseason with Siggy missing but I'm not sure if I'd want to double up with Carroll.

          1. Oven Glover
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 27 days ago

            One or the other. Pretty certain it's going to be TC come Friday afternoon. Every .5 counts.

            1. *sigh*
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 27 days ago

              It's actually 1.0 difference so going to leave Fer out but know I'll regret it.

              1. Oven Glover
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 27 days ago

                TC it is then!

    2. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Says who?

      1. *sigh*
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Says the preseason games and last seasons form.

        1. TheTinman
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          Lascelles played 6months of last season with an injury, hence the dip in form. He had a big operation over the summer for this hence the lack of pre season minutes.

          He was a monster in the first half of the season. Lejeune looks great competition and I suspect Rafa will rotate as he has done in most positions last year.

          1. *sigh*
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 27 days ago

            Think Clark is the better player and Rafa will start with Clark/Lejeune for the foreseeable.

    3. TheTinman
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Nobody knows. Lascelles is not completely fit

    4. Sandy Ravage
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Lascelles + Lejeune should be the regular starters with Clark as cover

      1. TheTinman
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Clark was Newcastle stand out defender last year. Lejeune and Lascelles two slow to play as a pair

        1. *sigh*
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          See above.You going to first game? Wife's booked the kids birthday party same time so I'll only be able to watch first half!!!

          1. TheTinman
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 27 days ago

            Agree on Clark. Plus being a lefty adds a bit of balance. We won't know on Lascelles and Lejeune until a couple of weeks into the season, Rafa is hard to second guess.

            Unfortunately moved away from the North East last year. Will be streaming it!

    1. Oven Glover
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Sir Spam a Lot 🙂

  2. Trigg ⭐️
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    My effort at a big 3 up top:

    Foster, Elliot

    Cedric, Bertie, Jones, Mee, 4.0

    KDB, Zaha, Ince, Gross, Carroll

    Kane, Jesus, Lukaku

    Worth the sacrifices?

    1. Bushman
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Not for me

    2. KadMan
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Is Jones nailed on?

      1. Trigg ⭐️
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Suspended in europe and been playing in pre-season. Signs are good.

        1. barracuda
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          Have had Jones for some time. Calculated risk.

    3. skodaole2
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Midfield is ok, defence not. You rely on SOU defence and Jones, Mee are weak choices to rotate. KDB with 3 big hitters upfront is too much

  3. KadMan
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Liverpool have accepted Barcelona’s £90m bid for Philippe Coutinho [Daily Express]

    Oh boy

    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Would Cout leaving give Milner a start in midfield? Even attacking midfield?!

      1. KadMan
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Only Klopp knows. I think he has a good shot at it but with 90M in their pockets now (If the above news is true), they should be able to get Keita or someone similar to play.

        Even if they don't, Milner will still be competing with Henderson, Wijnaldum, Grujic and Can. So I'd avoid Milner to start with.

    2. barracuda
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      I think some time ago there were looking at Lanzini as Cout's replacement, that would be a great FPL buy.

      1. *sigh*
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Maybe his replacement was Salah?

        1. barracuda
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          Can he play in the middle of the pitch?

          1. *sigh*
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 27 days ago

            Where was Coutinho playing last season?

  4. Patty
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Am I crazy?

    Begovic Elliot
    Valencia Kolasinac Danilo Cedric Suttner
    KDB Ince Gross Atsu Milivojevic
    Kane Lukaku Firmino

    1. The Neville Wears Prada
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      dat mid

    2. barracuda
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      It could work but..Would you really want to enter the season with that midfield?

      1. Patty
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        that the question, If I pick the right man each week, they should bring in points

    3. ABK_94
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Too much spent on defenders. I might downgrade valencia, kolasinac and danilo and upgrade the midfield.

      1. Patty
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Yeah might downgrade one of them, theres just no mid priced midfielders catching my attention

    4. skodaole2
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Benching headache in midfield and defence. I would downgrade 2 mids to 4,5 and upgrade the 3rd and downgrade a defender to 4.0. Then you ll have to choose between 433 and 343 depending on fixtures.

    5. Pep says
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      It's not crazy but it's not smart either

    6. waldo666
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Maybe not crazy, just slightly unhinged 😉

  5. ABK_94
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    RMT

    Foster- Elliot
    Daniels- Mee- Simpson- Rangel - Dawson
    Zaha- Ritchie - KDB - Mane - Eriksen
    Lukaku - Jesus - Quaner

  6. United94
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Who will score more points this season Eriksen or firmino ?

    1. KadMan
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Eriksen for me

    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      You'd have to think Eriksen by some distance? Last year he out scored him by over 30 points, this year Firmino gets no CS points (-10) and 1 less point per goal (-10)

      1. Patty
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Firmino on pens it seems though

        1. Whazza
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          No, see Milner's quote

          1. barracuda
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 27 days ago

            Milner is not making those decisions I think- Jurgen is.

            1. Whazza
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 27 days ago

              Give me Klopp's quote then?

              1. barracuda
                • 9 Years
                9 years, 27 days ago

                Milner lost his last penalty in the PL, maybe Firmino will be taking them from now on as he successfully scored twice from the spot in preseason.

                1. Waxys
                  • 9 Years
                  9 years, 27 days ago

                  Milner is on pens.

                  Milner said he let Firmino take the pen to build confidence and to help him go for a hatty

                2. Waxys
                  • 9 Years
                  9 years, 27 days ago

                  He missed one pen after scoring 7 in a row...

      2. barracuda
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Good post but he might be on pennos, also signing of Salah and healthy Mane could help him to contribute more- who knows..

  7. barracuda
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Short term fix:

    A- Willian

    B- Fabregas

    Willian wasn't very visible but same could imply to the whole team yesterday... Fabregas at least got those set pieces but is he more nailed than Willian?

    1. The Neville Wears Prada
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      both are fairly short term, willian has higher ceiling; willian for now

      1. barracuda
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Why has he got a higher ceiling, any fundamental explanation or just a guess?

        1. The Neville Wears Prada
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          More explosive. plays much more forward than fab. However, if they are given similar gametime throughout the year, i'd put my money on fabregas. But because it's short term, you might as well get the more exciting prospect

          1. barracuda
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 27 days ago

            Cheers Ibra, Willian wasn't going much forward yesterday but then they played a good team so I may just stick with Willian for now..Was just tinkering. Cheers for your inputs

            1. The Neville Wears Prada
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 27 days ago

              looked like both were afraid to make mistakes, and like you said, they were playing a good team and they won't be playing arsenal every week.

  8. The Neville Wears Prada
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    I'm done tinkering until gw deadline now

    Foster
    Yoshida - Trippier (if fit) - Suttner
    Alli - Pogba - Willian - Zaha
    Lukaku - Kane - Firmino

    (Elliot - Carroll - Long - Hune)

  9. Expected Toulouse
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    If Coutinho goes to Barca, how much do people think it will impact other Pool assets like Mane, Salah, Firmino etc? Positive or negative?

    1. Trigg ⭐️
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Less rotation is a good thing at least.

    2. barracuda
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      If they sign a replacement who could fit straight away, it could work.

    3. TheTinman
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Hard to say but my guess would be negative.

    4. skodaole2
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      With Alexis not certain to start, i might go for Salah + Mane and decide later who to drop for Sanchez. I guess positive although Lallana's injury together with Coutinho's transfer might bring problems to their gameplay.

      1. Expected Toulouse
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        All good points. I feel it either increases certain players impact due to increased reliance on them. Or the team suffers from the void left by Coutinho and Lallana (at the start of the season).

    5. DaddyBellay
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Mostly negative I think. Cout out and lallana injure,who will be the productive player in midfield for Mane , Salah and Firmino for goal threats?

  10. Pr0v0ked
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Thoughts on Phillips as a starting option?

    1. Whazza
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Good if fit

    2. Expected Toulouse
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Pick of the 6mil options if fit.

  11. Atimis
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    RMT 😉

    Foster (Elliot)
    Kolasinac BDavies Cedric Daniels (Mason)
    KDB Salah Willian (RLC, TCarroll)
    Kane Kaku Gabi

    1. Yordan Letchkov
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Love it! Well balanced team.
      Not sure if RLC can keep his starting role, but no big concern.

      1. Atimis
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Thanks ! Will still monitor and try to finds best 15

  12. Yordan Letchkov
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Please share your thoughts, any suggestion welcome:

    DDG
    Trippier (Danilo) - Cedric - Dawson
    KDB - Salah - Willian - Shaqiri
    Kane - Lukaku - JRod

    Elliot - Carroll - Naughton - B Smith

    1. Toast
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Can't really fault it. You think Shaq will have a good season? JRod could be good. What about Francis as your 4.5 or Daniels instead of Dawson

    2. Yordan Letchkov
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Thx Toast. Don't like Stokes fixtures, but if Shaq stays fit, he could be great value for 6m. Always good for goals/assists out of nothing and on set pieces.

  13. Toast
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Please RMT out of ten and any comments would be great. Thanks

    Foster
    Danilo, Trippier/Davies, Stephens
    Salah, KDB, Willian, Zaha
    Lukaku, Kane, Tammy A

    Elliot, Francis, Carroll, Hunemeier

    1. Clifford☯
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Nice team. pick a 4.0 def with low ownership otherwise you might lose value if he's transferred out by many players.

    2. Yordan Letchkov
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      One of the best 442 formations I ve seen so far. Don't trust to Peps decision regarding Danilo yet, because expecting a lot of changes on the wing positions.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Yes, excellent 442

  14. Gabriel Agbonlahor
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    G2G?

    Foster (Elliot)
    Alonso Cedric Mee (Dunk) (Long)
    KDB Zaha Redmond Ritchie (Carrol)
    Lukaku Kane Firmino

  15. Clifford☯
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    A) DDG and Francis
    B) Heaton and Elliot

    Help Appreciated. 🙂

    1. Clifford☯
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      *Heaton and Daniels

    2. aleksios
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      a

  16. Scotty B
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Is Kolasanic nailed?
    Seems odd he started on the bench yesterday

  17. biggy
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Big 3 up top comes with a sacrifice. But Atsu/ Carrol strong pre season and Milivojevic with strong opening fixtures and on pens/freekicks, and also strong pre season I think this can work? Mee can also rotate with the defence. Thoughts?

    Fabianski
    Hegazi - Cedric - Daniels
    Mane - KDB - Milivojevic - Atsu
    Kane - Lukaku - Jesus

    Bench that can somewhat rotate: Elliot, Carrol , Mee, Mariappa

    1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      I quite like this, defense isn't 'too weak per se. Monitor Hegazi as not sure he's nailed

    2. sminkypinky
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      I'm currently trying out a similar team. Only TC and Atsu for me though. They kinda rotate.

      1. biggy
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        What about replacing Jesus with Benteke, and get Kompany and Kolasinac? Benteke have so amazing fixtures 1,3,5

    3. Annie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Defence is going to get very few points, just too weak imo

  18. Scotty B
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Redmond or Tadic?

    1. Whazza
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Redmond

  19. Going Home
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    RTM out of 10 please (based on Iwobi looking good for games for at least a week or two with Arsenal injuries)

    Foster | Elliot
    Bertrand | Trippier | Dann | Daniels
    Alli | Willian | Iwobi | JWP | TCarroll
    Jesus | Kane | Lukaku

    1. Going Home
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Also got Rosenior as a 4.0 defender

    2. Andy_Social
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Trippier prob out, Dann maybe not nailed, Iwobi maybe one week, Willian short-term. You'll be fire-fighting with transfers and unable to plan further ahead.

      6/10

  20. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Filthy midfield?

    Mane | Milivojevic | JWP | Ritchie

    Note own big 3 up top and Alonso & Kolasinac in midfield.

    1. El Cube
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Ritchie on spot kick and free kick so hes fine

      Miljo not so sure.

      1. Birds of Prey
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Milo is but the prob is he looks like he's gonna play a CB. He also scored in preseason on a free kick.

    2. Birds of Prey
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      I have the big three and Alonso Walker and Kola with Willian Fab Iwobi Brady Carroll. That's a hot mess in mid right now.

    3. Andy_Social
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Filthy? No. But I see what you've done - a trio of cheap dead-ball takers. Might as well add Carroll into the mix at only 4.5

      1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Yes he is my 5th haha! Filthy as in bad/weak

  21. El Cube
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Foster (Elliot)
    Danilo - Yoshida - Bailly (Mee - Hudson)
    KdB - JWP - Zaha - Willian (Carroll)
    Kane - Firmino - Lukaku

    My MF seems weak but somehow I feel content with how my Team looks. Thought?

    1. waldo666
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Your midfield is weak

      1. waldo666
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        But seriously if it was a true big hitter I could understand your sacrifice but just don't think Firmino offsets it

    2. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Quite nice not sure about Willian though

    3. Birds of Prey
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      I'd knock Zaha down to get to Jesus (not a fan).
      I'd also rather have Mane than Firmino.
      If you care Mee rotates great with WB for 1st 8 weeks--none of the top four.

  22. Scotty B
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Are Stones & Otamendi good choices to save 0.5 or play it safe with Kompany?

    1. El Cube
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Danilo play Wingback as long as Mendy out injured

    2. Birds of Prey
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      I had Ederson for awhile. He's nailed.

  23. mcrayeps
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Am i okay with Mee + Manquillo rotation?

    1. Whazza
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      If Yedlin is out long-term?

      1. TheTinman
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        No

        1. Birds of Prey
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          Too long, he was the guy on New Castle to have in the back..
          If you rotate Mee with Hegazi you get:
          BOU WB STK CP/brt WH HUD WAT WH for 8 games but who knows how long hegazi runs.

  24. Scotty B
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Any 4.0 defenders going to start do we think now that pre season games have finished?

    1. waldo666
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Doesn't look likely

      1. Birds of Prey
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        My theory if you are having two 4.0s take two New Castle. But who knows.

  25. samaael
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Play Ritchie or Francis ?

    1. Konstaapeli
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Ritchie

      1. Birds of Prey
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Ritchie

  26. RSS447
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Guys I need an honest opinion .
    Playing a draft league ( 8 playeers ) by auction where everyone gets to bid , and missed out on a lot of attacking options .So had to go with the following
    Foster/begovic
    kolasinac/Bertrand/Valencia/Trippier/Azpilicueta
    Mane/ Zaha/Lanzini/Ince/Ritchie
    Firmino/Defoe/Iheanacho
    looking at starting atleast 4 defenders..
    As part of a free trade after auction , few options are available

    a. francis,shaqiri,arnautovic,redmond,knockaert,mooy,klaasen,fer,philips
    b.tammy,rodriguez,austin,gayle,mitrovic,mounie,gray,vokes,afobe

    any suggestions regarding changes .Thanks in advance

    1. Birds of Prey
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Ouch,maybe Arno or Phillips over Lanzini. Hosed up top. What was your draft position?

      1. RSS447
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        it wasnt a position.. it was an open auction , where we bid for players .
        any other suggestions

  27. Coaly
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Foster Elliot
    Davies Cedric Daniels Mee 4.0

    Can this be improved for the same money?

    1. Konstaapeli
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Pick a sure starter in for Cedric.

  28. Oven Glover
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Been asked before I guess, but what's the deal with the RMT scale 1/10?
    Wouldn't 1/15 be more accurate?

  29. aleksios
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Good morning to all share your thoughts please here
    DGea
    Cedric-Alonso-Daniels-Dawson
    Fraser-KDB-Salah-Zaha
    Kane-Lukaku
    Elliot--Caroll--Hunem--Quaner
    a) stick with it
    b) DGea to 4,5mil Gk and Dawson to Kolac or Quaner to Abraham
    thanks all!!

    1. Rover
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      A. At most Cedric to Yoshida

      1. Birds of Prey
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        I'm liking Stephens these days. he had 10 bonus and one YC in 1500 mins last season. 0.4% ownership last night.