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9 August 2017 2131 comments
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Romelu Lukaku scores, but Manchester United are comfortably second best to a fluent Real Madrid in the UEFA Super Cup.

Manchester United 1 Real Madrid 2

Statistics often find themselves the wrong side of damned lies, and so it proved in the UEFA Super Cup.

Man United and Real Madrid had six shots on target each in a match controlled by the Spanish giants pretty much from first whistle to last.

David de Gea had to pull off a number of fine saves, while his opposite number Keylor Navas most assuredly did not, although the mess he made of one effort led to United’s goal.

The Madrid keeper could only parry the influential Nemanja Matic’s shot straight to Romelu Lukaku, who pounced on the rebound to halve a two-goal deficit entirely in keeping with Madrid’s dominance.

The Belgian striker, at 48.7% the most popular player in Fantasy Premier League, had an average night, but his goal will at least keep him and his large Fantasy entourage happy enough ahead of what should be a rather less testing fixture at home to West Ham on Sunday.

Paul Pogba’s owners won’t be in such high spirits, however. The signing of Matic was meant to unleash the attacking threat of the Frenchman, owned by 23.3% of FPL managers, and he did have one fine chance – a free header – that he put too close to Navas. Lukaku’s effort from the rebound was even worse.

In fact, it was Matic himself who stole the show in the United midfield, and his occasional forays forward will have encouraged the 12.1% of FPL managers who have opted for his budget 5.0 charms.

Henrikh Mkhitaryan was an occasionally sparky presence, while Pogba’s decision-making was badly off at times.

The former finishes pre-season with three goals and as many assists, Pogba just the one assist.

And yet the Armenian appears in a mere 6.1% of FPL squads despite costing exactly the same – 8.0 – as his big-name team-mate. In the Sky Sports game, the Frenchman, at 11.2m, is 1.2m pricier. Both will need to improve on Sunday.

Jose Mourinho again opted for a three-man defence, using Matteo Darmian alongside Chris Smalling and Victor Lindelof, with both Eric Bailly and Phil Jones serving European bans.

The 9.0%-owned Lindelof again failed to impress, switching off for Madrid’s opening goal, with Mourinho’s pre-match comments suggesting that the Swede was played out of necessity.

“Lindelof came from a big club with a completely different level in terms of responsibility and I would prefer to give him a little more time but we have no alternative with two players lost to suspension and Marcos Rojo is injured, so we go with Victor.”

The Red Devils defence always looks considerably more secure with Bailly in it and he will surely walk back into the side for the West Ham match. Who his partner will be remains to be seen, although the smart money is surely on Jones, who at 5.0, could well be an early season option given Lindelof’s struggles.

Another well-owned asset, Antonio Valencia (8.2%), put in a strong showing and looked particularly dangerous going forward at wing-back, although Marcelo – never the greatest of defensive full-backs – perhaps helped him out with that.

But one player who did not impress was Jesse Lingard. The United midfielder was used extensively by Mourinho during pre-season and started in a left wing-back role but looked lost.

Forty-five uninspiring minutes later, Mourinho brought on Marcus Rashford in his place and he provided a pace and intensity on the left flank so badly lacking in the first half.

The youngster did fail to take one of the few clear-cut chances United had all night, but he could well have done enough to merit inclusion for Sunday’s season opener. At just 7.5 in FPL (he is a rather steeper 11.1m in Sky), Rashford offers genuine value for money – if he gets consistent pitch-time.

That’s a big if, however, and sacrificing what could be a premium United pick on a player who doesn’t start regularly carries obvious risk.

Despite the defeat, Mourinho was bullish post-match:

“I’m really happy to be with them and I’m going to fight with them all the way, so let’s go on Sunday. Old Trafford is waiting for us and I think Old Trafford has a reason to be behind us.”

He also spoke of his continued experiment with a three-man defence…

“We used pre-season to work and try to improve things we already do and develop things we don’t do. Lots of teams are playing with three defenders and wing-backs and we played like that against Sampdoria and LA Galaxy because it’s something that maybe during the season we are going to do.”

It remains to be seen if we see the system against West Ham on Sunday. Certainly, as a wing-back, Valencia’s stock should be improved, although the role on the left appears to be a problem area. It will also open up another spot for a central defender – another factor that could aid Jones’ cause.

Manchester United: De Gea; Smalling, Lindelof, Darmian; Valencia, Herrera (Fellaini 56), Matic, Pogba, Lingard; (Rashford 46), Mkhitaryan; Lukaku.
Subs not used: Romero, Mata, Martial, Carrick, Blind.

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  1. tractorboy1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Who is gonna be playing CB for United do we think? Bailly and...?

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Jones

    2. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Lindelof and Rojo in a back 3 i think but Lindelof looks a bit out of his dept at the moment.

      1. UshFPL
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        Rojo's out till Xmas

    3. Ghost Gooner
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Read the article/post

  2. Beatle
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    A: Danilo & Yoshida
    B: Bertrand & Daniels

    1. le flem
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      b

    2. Francescoli
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      B

    3. Concrete
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      A

    4. Holteendersinthesky
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Yoshida/Cedric & Daniels then you save 0.5 for elsewhere

      1. Beatle
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        Interesting. Could upgrade to another 5.0 defender. Holding the best option?

    5. Expected Toulouse
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      b

  3. Dont Shoot
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Listening to ScoutCast i turned my team 32 degrees to left...8th time in 2 days
    Andy was talking about 5 big hitters...is this something like it -
    Eliot/Foster
    Rangel, Mee, Dawson, PVA, Yoshida
    KDB, Salah, Alli, Caroll, Oriol Romeu
    Lukaku, Kane, JRod

    ...and then you get Joe - JRod (and others) are rubbish, def for 5 - we'll mix it, no Chelsea, Mark trying to get Valencia...

    My head hurts! In FPL - enjoyable way! Great cast guys, as usual!

    Best part is - at the end - joined message - RELAX and ENJOY!!!

    1. Concrete
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Me too... it's all about Kane v Jesus for me and the 2mill saved or not. Originally had Jesus...

    2. Ghost Gooner
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      5 is overkill. 4 is ideal as the drop off in quality is less steep. ie

      Hennessy
      Kolasinac Danilo Dawson
      Salah Willian Ritchie Fraser
      Kane (v) Lukaku (c) Jesus

      Elliott TC TAA Hunemeier

  4. Greenbackbøøg…
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Suttner nailed on enough to not worry about?

    1. Francescoli
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      lock and load

    2. le flem
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      yep

    3. OldBenKenobi
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      I believe so

  5. OldBenKenobi
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Dummett nailed for NEW?

    1. OldBenKenobi
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      anyone?

    2. Bubz
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Yes

  6. Football Heaven
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Foster
    Ake Bertrand kompany
    KDB Salah Pogba fabregas
    Jesus Kane Abraham

    Elliott Carroll mbemba rangel

  7. Venom Snake
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Bottomed..

    Both of these combinations cost exactly the same - so which is better?

    A. Kane Chicharito KDB Ritchie
    B. Jesus Firmino Eriksen Zaha

    1. Galza
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      A. Only because it's got Kane in it.

      1. Holteendersinthesky
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        A) but I believe there is better forwards for 7mil than Chicharito for the first few gameweeks.

  8. Squires FC
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Iwobi or fraser? Daniels owner, no arsenal coverage.

    1. OldBenKenobi
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Iwobi is ok for a punt but bare in mind u will need to transfer him out in 2/3 weeks

  9. Barthazar
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    A) Alli-Zaha-Carroll-Kane-Lukaku
    B) Mkhi-Carroll-Kane-Lukaku-Firmino
    C) Zaha-Willian-Jesus-Lukaku-Firmino

    1. sozopol
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      I have b right now

      1. Barthazar
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        Thnx!
        P.S. Sozopol in BG? 🙂

        1. Holteendersinthesky
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 22 days ago

          A) by a mile, got the big two in Kane and Lukaku, I'd maybe swap Alli for Mane just to get you some Liverpool coverage as you already have Kane

          1. Barthazar
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 22 days ago

            Right now i have:

            Elliot (Foster)
            Cédric-Aké-TAA(1 GW) (Mee-Rangel)
            Salah-Mané-De Bruyne-Zaha-Carroll
            Lukaku-Kane (McBurnie)

            1. Holteendersinthesky
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 22 days ago

              I personally wouldn't have both Salah and mane then. Although you can keep it the same and perhaps bring in ozil in a few gameweeks. No one's seems to be talking about him but consistently scores well each year.

              1. Holteendersinthesky
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 22 days ago

                Or you could drop either Salah or mane to Willian/Fabregas save 2 or 2.5m and improve your defence.

                1. Barthazar
                  • 9 Years
                  9 years, 22 days ago

                  Thnx

  10. Tomerick
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    A) Ritchie and Kane (No other Spurs)

    B) Mkhi and Lacazette (already have Lukaku)

    1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      A).

    2. Beatle
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      A

    3. Hairy Potter
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      A

  11. fpork
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Please RMT:
    Foster (Elliot)
    Bertrand - Kolasinac- Stones (Francis) (Hünemeier)
    Fabregas - KDB - Eriksen - Carroll (Milivojevic)
    Lukaku - Kane - Mounie
    Bit unsure about having to rotate between Francis, Carroll and Milivojevic. Might be OK?

  12. Peteski29
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Good morning all! First time poster here just wanting to say hello after recently discovering this site and becoming a member. So much useful information available on here to hopefully help me have a decent season! Keep up the good work.
    Pete

    1. salazar1963
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Morning, Pete

    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      biggest fpl community on the interwebs

    3. Darthshearer
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Alright Pete. I was same last season and now hooked. Some very knowledgeable people on here!

    4. Galza
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Hi Pete. Joined yesterday and spent 8 hours on here. Great stuff. Can I recommend you get a grav from gravatar.com and don't be to quick to post an rmt. Enjoy.

      1. afcbbbb
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        Stfu

    5. FPLtfs
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Welcome! What parts of the site are you finding most helpful? A tip is to use the advanced season ticker, were you can move teams up and down the list to check out rotations etc. Good luck 🙂

      1. Peteski29
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        I've already been playing about with the season ticker, an excellent feature. There are plenty of others too, still just getting used to it all!

  13. Butters_lfc9
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    RMT
    Foster
    Trippier-Daniels-Yoshida
    KDB-Mane-Zaha-Ritchie
    Lukaku-Kane-Rodriguez

    Fabianski-Hunemeir-Carroll-Prodl
    0.0ITB

    1. Holteendersinthesky
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Trippier will be lucky to play this weekend. Maybe pick another 5.5 and bring in Trippier when he is back

  14. J T
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Any suggestions please fellas?

    Fabianski
    Baily Daniels Yoshi
    Carrol Eriksen Kdb Salah Fabregas
    Jesus Kane

    Elliot | 4.5m 4m 4m

    1. GinjaWhinja
      • 17 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Bench is looking REALLY bare. I'd look at downgrading KDB to Sterling to improve there - in case of rotations or injuries.

  15. Daniel Exeter
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Sure this is old news here - Andre Gray to Burnley...

    1. Daniel Exeter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      To Watford even** lol

  16. sozopol
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    To Mkhi or not, that is my question. Been in my team all week due to form and value, but now I'm worried it's too risky due to rotation and to Jose's conservatism.

    1. salazar1963
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      I think there is a fooking big void in him and is awful value at 8.0

    2. Daniel Exeter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Certainly there wasn't anything to go by last night.

      However, why did you put him in in the first place? His pre season form has been good, one game doesn't change that. Especially as Real were a clear step above United last night.

      He won't be playing the current best team in the world every week.

    3. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      The wings positions at united are rotation risks tbf but Myki has been doing well.

      If you are picking players based on form and value you will do alright for yourself.

  17. Fragzurp
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Moreno to start vs Watford?

  18. ekul the lokonga enthusiast
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Alonso anyone?

    I just did Redmond and Alonso to Danilo & Mkhitaryan and im not sure I made the right move

    1. J T
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      No. bad move

  19. zakard
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Best 4.5 def ?
    i'm on Dummett for the moment.

    1. OldBenKenobi
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Same here but is he nailed?

      1. salazar1963
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        He is a lock

      2. Hairy Potter
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        Should be. He seems to be a favourite of Rafa and just gets on with his main task which is defending. Rafa doesn't rate Haidara and Manquillo looks like he will be on the right to cover Yedlin's injury.

    2. DV8R
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Mee/Lowe/Suttner

  20. Francescoli
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Will Conte keep giving Batshuayi starts or is he just warming things up for Morata?

    1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      I am thinking of having a little 1-game-gamble, GW1. 😉

      1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        There is a Firmino-shaped hole, ready and waiting. But still, I will probably bottle it.

      2. Francescoli
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        Yeah it's him or Firmino. Batshuayi better chance to score imo. But Firmino bolted on.

        How you shaping up jazz man?

        1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 22 days ago

          I have two squads, a boring one, and the real one:

          GW 1(3-4-3):

          Foster
          Yoshida, Löwe, Alexander-Arnold
          Eriksen, Mané(c), Willian, Fraser
          Kane(vc), Lukaku, Firmino

          Fabianski; Carroll T, Francis, Hünemeier … 0, 0.0 ITB, TV: 100.0, SV: 100.0

          1. Francescoli
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 22 days ago

            Nice

            1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              9 years, 22 days ago

              Cheers, Francescoli. 🙂

              1. Francescoli
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 22 days ago

                I'm on

                Foster
                Bertrand, Daniels, Kolasinac
                Pedro, Alli, Zaha, Fraser
                Jesus, Kane, Firmino

                Elliot Carroll, Suttner, Mee

                1. Francescoli
                  • 12 Years
                  9 years, 22 days ago

                  But still unsure on a number of picks. Particularly in midfied.

                2. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  9 years, 22 days ago

                  Oh, very nice. I like the Jesus/Pedro thing.

                  I don't believe that Bertrand is worth the 0.5, though. I may be wrong.

                  1. Francescoli
                    • 12 Years
                    9 years, 22 days ago

                    I like Cedric but am worried about his health... Convinced by Yoshida?

                    1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 16 Years
                      9 years, 22 days ago

                      Yes, but I am waiting a little longer on Cédric.

                  2. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 16 Years
                    9 years, 22 days ago

                    Jesus/Pedro GW 8. Very powerful.

                    1. Francescoli
                      • 12 Years
                      9 years, 22 days ago

                      ^^

      3. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 17 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        The more I look at my team, I feel I'm on a 11 man gamble. 🙂

        Locked and loaded none the less Doos.

        1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 22 days ago

          😆 I am not quite. Final decision to be made. 😀

    2. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Bats to start, Morata to be eased in after a couple of weeks.

      1. Francescoli
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        Could be a decent differential gw1

  21. _Gunner
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Which is better?

    A- Monreal + Yoshida
    B- Bertrand + Daniels
    C- Danilo + Yoshida/Daniels

    1. Francescoli
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      B

    2. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      A. Just.

  22. DV8R
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Lowe likely to retain set pieces? 4.5m for a set piece taking defender is a steal

    1. Francescoli
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      I like him. just can't squeeze him in

      1. DV8R
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        I have him, just gonna be a benching headache in GW2 when 4 of 5 of my defenders have home games

    2. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      I am taking that gamble.

    3. KadMan
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Just don't think he offers any clean sheets at all. Don't want him solely "assuming" that he's on set pieces especially with players like Gross, Propper, Mooy, Ince and Knockaert in the team.

  23. mike.mun
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    A or B:

    A: Mane + Chicharito
    B: Pedro + Firmino

    Firmino seeming like on Pens, currently going for B. (and I have Salah already).

    Would give:
    Salah, Pedro, Eriksen, RLC, Carroll
    Kane, Jesus, Firmino

    1. Francescoli
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      B

    2. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Beeeeeeeeeeeee.

  24. Boydinho
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Redmond - Firmino or Salah - Gabbi

    1. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      RF.

  25. Kvelertak
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Anyone know why Mustafi didn't play on sunday? I thought he was nailed on.

    1. tambourineman
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Missed all pre-season games due to involvement in Confederation Cup

    2. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Most likely defence for Arsenal will be Holding, Mert and Monreal, with either Bellerin/Ox as RWB and Kola as LWB.

  26. Farke in hell
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Final Team

    De Gea (Elliot)

    Walker, David luiz, Cedric, Daniels (Hunemeier)

    Kdb, Alli, Zaha, Ward-Prowse (ward-prowse)

    Lukaku, Aguero (Quaner)

  27. GinjaWhinja
    • 17 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Need to find 0.5m.

    Is Stephens over Bertrand a decent shout? Is Stephens looking good on stats and possible BPS?

    1. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Yep and Yeppers.

  28. Football Heaven
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Begovic
    Ake Bertrand kompany
    KDB Pogba Salah fabregas
    Jesus Kane Abraham

    Elliott Carroll tuanzebe long

  29. Fragzurp
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Best Starting 4.5m defender?

  30. Rupert The Horse
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Not that many had Sanchez at all, but I guess him missing the opening game will have gotten rid of the few that did.