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10 August 2017 2682 comments
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In the words of Cockney prophets Chas & Dave: ‘Spurs are on their way to Wembley, Tottenham’s going to do it again’.

This season, in a move that even a dreaming Ossie Ardiles might tire of, they’ll be on their way to Wembley many more times than usual to fulfil 19 Premier League home fixtures while their new stadium is being built.

And the fear is that what Tottenham’s going to be doing again is struggle.

The precedents are not good – West Ham suffered when they moved into their new home last season, while Spurs lost two and drew one of their four European matches at Wembley in 2016/17.

A strong second-place finish last campaign, fuelled by key assets Harry Kane, Dele Alli and Christian Eriksen, would usually demand our Fantasy attention.

But will the move to Wembley change all that? Will it prompt a right old Knees Up or a case of Ain’t No Pleasing You?

We canvas the opinion of some leading Fantasy Premier League managers and Fantasy Football Scout staff to ask for their verdict on the fourth of this season’s Burning Questions: Is the Wembley factor really a concern when considering Spurs’ assets?

Peter Kouwenberg (Hall of Fame #1) Says…

A confession: I was one who skippered Kane for the Hull City and Burnley blanks last December before a rare rage-transfer out – just in time to ‘enjoy’ his festive haul of six goals in four matches.

I also became something of an expert throughout the season at swapping Eriksen in and out for Alli, just in time to miss each other’s goals and assists, before finally admitting defeat and bringing in all three players.

As a result, I am the last person qualified to comment on Spurs.

Much has been written about why they do, and may continue to, struggle at Wembley and if I was a Spurs fan, I probably would be a little bit nervous about this.

However, I would be far more fearful of not having Kane in my team, with a match away at newly promoted Newcastle and a home fixture against Burnley sandwiching the Chelsea clash.

I agree that there are viable alternatives – the Manchester City strikers and new boys Alvaro Morata and Alexandre Lacazette could all justify excluding Kane – but I’ll be riding out the first three games at least, after which the fixtures suggest it would be a brave or foolish player not to have at least one Spurs attacker.

Where I think the Wembley wariness will influence me is in not trebling up from the off. Alli was the first name on my first draft team sheet and I still think he (and Eriksen) could continue where they left off last season.

However, wagering over a quarter of my £100m budget on Spurs (including the injured Kieran Trippier) to beat their Wembley hoodoo may be a gamble too far.

Uwais Ahmed (FPL Runner-Up 2016/17) Says…

I believe that playing at Wembley for 19 home matches will make a difference, but how much this will affect the Spurs players is impossible to tell.

We simply don’t have a decent sample size of data to confirm how much of a factor Wembley will be. What we do know is that Spurs won 21 of 23 matches played at White Hart Lane last season across all competitions, and you would expect this will be difficult to match this time around.

Given Harry Kane is the most expensive player in FPL, at £12.5m, you have to take into account all factors when fielding a player who uses up such a significant portion of our budget. Playing at Wembley is one such factor.

Kane is England’s number one striker. He’s played at Wembley on a number of occasions, so we’re not talking about a novice with a complete unfamiliarity of his surroundings. What also works in Kane’s favour is that he is a nailed-on starter for Spurs so there is no rotation risk around him.

I believe that in considering Spurs’ assets, you have to play it by ear. What you can hang your hat on is that last season in the Premier League, Spurs had the joint-best goal difference at home and the best goal difference away. This tells you that they’re a very well-balanced team with FPL options across all positions.

They’ve earned the right for us to ignore the Wembley aspect to begin with, particularly with their favourable opening schedule.

But we might need to re-visit the issue once we have more evidence and information.

Ben Crabtree (Reigning FPL Champion) Says…

Stadium moves generally negatively affect performance.

Couple this with Spurs, and Kane in particular, being slow starters and there should be caution around their prized assets.

The 6-1 and 7-1 maulings they handed out in the spring were nearly three months ago. Their form – and that of all the other teams – is re-set for the new season and no-one has half an eye on the beach anymore.

I feel Spurs are less likely to win the title this season. Today’s Danny Rose story is symptomatic of the frustration at the club, with some players concerned that rivals have strengthened so much while their only business has made them weaker, ie losing Kyle Walker.

Then again, I’m open to the possibility of my thoughts deriving from confirmation bias.

Pretending Spurs have no options saves a lot of money and makes picking a team easier. There is a stadium move, but they’ve played there before so it’s not completely new. Kane hasn’t scored in August before, but that could mean he’ll score three months worth of goals this August to average it out.

Then there’s Eriksen and Alli who, as a rule, score more points each year. Even if they get ‘only’ this season, I don’t want to be missing out on that.

At the start you can only have so many top players. The tactic I generally use is to see what factors rule players out rather than in. I think Wembley is a big enough concern to put Spurs on hold for now.

Simon March (FPL Champion 2014/15) Says…

My theory when it comes to Spurs and the ‘Wembley factor’ is that their recent malaise there has less to do with the size of the pitch or the unfamiliar surroundings and much more to do with the fact that it is simply ‘Wembley’.

The venue is synonymous with ‘an occasion’ and, for the visiting teams and their fans, fixtures there take on a cup final atmosphere, irrespective of their actual significance. As a result, Spurs’ opponents typically bring along a larger, louder following and their players raise their game accordingly.

If this is true, then Spurs may have 19 ‘cup finals’ on their hands next season and this could, of course, impact on their players’ performances.

Though I expect Spurs to eventually adapt to their new surroundings and the greater pressure that comes with them, I might be concerned about their results early on in the season.

I’m less concerned, however, with the impact on Spurs as an attacking force.

Even if the results aren’t going their way, I think their usual suspects of Kane, Alli and Eriksen will still find opportunities to score.

The atmosphere might even work in their favour at times, with opposing teams less inclined to ‘park the bus’ in front of a more vociferous than usual away following.

So, while I might avoid their defence for a few Gameweeks at least, I’ll still be backing their attacking assets.

Jonty Says…

Spurs were an unstoppable force at White Hart Lane last season, racking up more shots than any home side and scoring 47 times – a tally only bettered by Chelsea.

In defence, they conceded just nine times in front of their own fans and kept 12 clean sheets – another two records for their 2016/17 stats cabinet.

Given that they effectively play 38 away matches this season, due to Wembley being their temporary home, the theory is that this fine record will suffer.

Leading the charge in pushing this theory are those that study pitch sizes. They will point out that, at 100 x 67 metres, White Hart Lane had the second smallest Premier League pitch last season and Spurs players may struggle to adjust to the extra space afforded by Wembley’s gigantic 105 x 69 metres (7,245 ) of turf.

West Ham’s travails after their move to a larger pitch at the London Stadium last season further strengthen this ‘groundsman’s argument’.

Then there’s Spurs’ track record at Wembley – a stadium where last season they were beaten by Monaco, Bayer Leverkusen and Chelsea and could only secure a draw against Belgian team KAA Gent. In fact, CSKA Moscow were the only side they managed to beat at the home of English football last season.

But I’m still not buying into the Wembley effect.

The key is that, in Kane, they have a player looking to win the Golden Boot for the third consecutive season and who still scored 12 goals on the road last season – with only Alexis Sanchez and Sergio Aguero scoring more.

In addition, their away record was superb – suggesting the tight White Hart Lane pitch is not needed for success. On the road they conceded a mere 16 times- another record – and scored 39, which was only bettered by Manchester City.

If Spurs fail to replicate 2016/17’s form, it won’t be due to playing at Wembley. It will arguably be more to do with their failure to impress in the transfer market, where they have lost one of their best players in full-back Walker and have been forced to watch in envy as their rivals strengthen.

Paul Says…

Due to Spurs’ tactics under Mauricio Pochettino, I don’t think you can rule out the Wembley issue altogether, or at least in the very early stages.

Spurs play such a high-pressing game that, with more ground and space to cover in their new home, there’s a possibility that energy levels could drop later in matches and they might not be able to close down opponents quite so effectively.

That’s essentially a fitness factor and one that their manager will presumably address by ensuring that Spurs’ levels are even greater than before. It could initially have an impact but, as the season unfolds and the players up their match fitness and become more accustomed to Wembley, I can’t see it being an issue.

Kane’s minutes per away goal last season – which was almost identical to Romelu Lukaku’s at home – underlines that he’s far from reliant on White Hart Lane. At present, he’s the only Spurs player I own as I feel he’s unparalleled as a captaincy pick.

Elsewhere, you can also point to the fact that Alli had more big chances away from home than any FPL midfielder last season. Eriksen, meanwhile, sat first for shots and key passes, and his penchant for efforts from distance is unlikely to be quenched.

Defensively, I’m going to steer clear of Spurs for now and see if they can maintain the same levels of resilience as last season.

But with Burnley, Swansea City and Bournemouth three of their first four visitors, the opening schedule should allow them to settle and give us time to assess any possible Wembley impact.

Mark Says…

While they have been conspicuous by their absence in the transfer market, in many ways it was difficult to strengthen Pochettino’s first XI and, under normal circumstances I’d reluctantly be installing Spurs as title favourites.

But the Wembley factor has to be a consideration and, coupled with the sudden unrest in the camp following Rose’s outburst today, I do have escalating concerns about their prospects.

The pitch size and sense of occasion created by the stadium move is less of a factor than the morale issues for me.

I worry that, with a ready-made excuse for a reduced title bid, the mood in the camp could suddenly plummet further.

One of the main reasons for Spurs’ success last season was the fact that they came across as the most unified and spirited of teams.

But cracks are now appearing and I do feel that the re-location will compound matters.

Having said that, I am still struggling to overlook Kane.

Based on last season’s output, he is peerless as a captain option and while there is explosivity and possibly consistency on offer from Romelu Lukaku and Gabriel Jesus, they are for my money still giving chase to Kane for these qualities .

So Kane will likely get the nod for me, regardless of my concerns.

However, I am unlikely to back him with Eriksen or Alli for fear of over-investment in a side perhaps on the verge of a transition – both in terms of venue and, perhaps, mentality and confidence.

  1. The Boys 999
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Any thoughts on having Abraham?

    1. GS456
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Comes down to him and Salah or Firmino and a 6.0 midfielder.

      Plus llorente is back in 2gws and their first 2 fixtures aren't great anyway.

  2. GS456
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    I remember owning Richie for Bournemouth.

    15 goals in their promotion season > 4 in the premier league.

    12 goals in Newcastles promotion season........

    1. SerenityLater
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I got burned too

    2. WE ARE RANGERS
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      was he on pens when he got 4 goals???

      1. THFC4LIFE
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        No think Daniels was

        1. GS456
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          is a good point.

  3. TheTinman
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Can't wait to see Dummet burn all.the Kane captainers #backpocket

    1. laplana
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Wouldn't dream of caping Kane.

    2. kalmoffit
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      You've not seen Dummett.

      1. TheTinman
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Dummets a good mate of mine. Underrated

    3. â­ Bemba_Da â­
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      not so sure, alot of questions about spurs and rose coming out speaking up. What will the impact be on the players attitude

    4. Belsunz
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Kane hattrick incoming...

  4. Ramsays Raw Steak
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Any decent 4.5 D? beside Simpson

    1. GS456
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I like Lowe from Huddersfield or Suttner from brighton.

      Hegazi from WBA also.

      1. WE ARE RANGERS
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Alexander Arnold til Clyne comes back

      2. Ramsays Raw Steak
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        k thx love you

  5. Tmel
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    With Per back for Arsenal do we expect Kola to play at LWB ahead of Ox or start on the bench?

  6. Louplaloup
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Squeaky arse time innit....

    RMT would be nice

    Foster (Elliot)

    Danilo/Cedric/Kola (Mariappa/Lejeune)

    KDB/Salah/Iwobi/Atsu (Carroll)

    Luk/Kane/Firminho

    1. Ramsays Raw Steak
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      decent

      1. Louplaloup
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        not many talking about atsu and lejeune (after spurs) looks tres bien

    2. Belsunz
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Cedric may lose out to Pied for this weekend

  7. Tmel
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    a) KDB & Atsu
    b) Mane & JWP
    c) Mane & Gross

    Atsu/JWP/Gross would be a playing 4th mid most GWs

    1. SerenityLater
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      B looks strongest to me

    2. Louplaloup
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      A for me (got both)

  8. Whats the Mata?
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone here with DDG for Utd def cover?
    Or going with Valencia or Bailly?

    1. GS456
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      DDG yeah

    2. chatburns27
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I'm paying for Valencia. Think it's worth it.

    3. Dannyb
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      DDG and Bailly here

    4. JustPark
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      30% ownership at the moment, I'd say that's a yes.

    5. SerenityLater
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Tempted to pick Jones and just close my eyes

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        InsanityNow? 😉

      2. Whats the Mata?
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Same here, but still a risk. Cant see gw1 with such howlers. Thus DDG

  9. Ronnies
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Need yer help guys ... a or b ?

    a) ddg & dawson

    b) foster & kompany

    Tnks

    1. SerenityLater
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      A, United fixtures so strong

  10. PvA
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    People talk about wing backs as if it's a huge revolution

    I can think of only 2/3 teams that play with full-backs consistently; Chelsea, Arsenal and Palace. Maybe City to start the season, but all the other teams use it as a one off formation

    People over-reacting and making things more complicated than they are yet again

    1. Whats the Mata?
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Whats your def lookin like?

      1. PvA
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Daniels, Dann and Bertrand

        You?

        1. Whats the Mata?
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          DDG for Utd cover
          Stephens Daniels Moreno Suttner.

    2. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      For me it's as simple as the 5.5-6.5 wing backs look more tempting than the mids.

      1. *Reformed-Character*
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Iwobi ?

    3. Ramboros
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      The potential wing backs got an additional 0.5 slapped onto their price. Coleman, Walker, Valencia, Moses and Mendy at 6.5, Baines at 6.0 and PVA at 5.5. Trippier, Kolasinac and Alonso are the only wing backs that justify their price right now.

  11. Milner4eva
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    is Dawson going to play for WBA? Pulis defence FTW

    1. SerenityLater
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Nailed. Tony doesn't have many other options anyway

      1. Milner4eva
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        cheers!! In Pulis we trust 🙂

  12. JustPark
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    How's United backline pecking order(apart from DDG)?
    Valencia
    Baily
    Darmian/Jones/Smalling/Blind???

    1. Whats the Mata?
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      If Bailly starts, Jones will start alongside. Theyve played together entire preseason and I guess it was for a reason right?

    2. Mr Arsenal
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I'm punting on Jones but not confident..

      1. SerenityLater
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        love this move

      2. JustPark
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Darmian slightly nailed than Jones though isn't it?
        Only Blind(and Shaw probably) competing.

  13. Boom Xhaka-Laca
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Draft league for players playing the whole season:: 617770-142058

  14. King of the north
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Nice fellas!!
    I need your help to make my final team, I am currently on

    Foster - lascelles- danilo- TAA
    KDB - Alli - Mane - T Carroll
    Kane - Lukaku - Austin

    Subs : Elliot - loftus cheek, Lowe - Marriapa

    Am I good to go?

    I think aguero for lukaku for his penalty duties?

  15. Pauntley
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Hi

    Which would you rather have as a third striker:

    a) Jay Rodriguez
    b) Tammy Abraham plus £0.5m

    Thanks

    1. Kizza_10
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Jay

    2. SerenityLater
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      A

  16. AYEW KI-EDEN MEE
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Think I might have settled on a team.. thoughts?

    Foster
    Danilo Bertrand Daniels
    KDB Zaha Willian JWP
    Kane Lukaku Firmino

    Subs: Carroll Suttner Mee

    1. mfcphil
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Danilo? in front of walker?

  17. Shirokov(c)
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Are Kevin Long and Tammy Abraham expected to start for their respective clubs?

    1. JustPark
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Abraham is. Not sure on Long.

  18. The Boys 999
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Any thoughts on having fer?

  19. Colonel Shoe è‚æ± 
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    marriappa or rangel ?

    1. Kizza_10
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Appa, less likely to lose value

  20. Crofty92
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Bailly or Kola?

    1. SerenityLater
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Bailly – nailed, nice clean sheets potential with some bonus

  21. Seb Wassell
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Mkhitaryan + Jesus

    or

    Zaha + Lukaku

    1. Crofty92
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Zaha + Lukaku

    2. Kizza_10
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Zaha & Lukaku

    3. Frozen flying mammoth
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Z+L

    4. Seb Wassell
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Conclusive. Cheers.

      1. SerenityLater
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Sorry, like A

  22. Kizza_10
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    1. Monreal & Cedric

    or

    2. Luiz & Mee

    (Already have De Gea & Trippier)

  23. chatburns27
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Feeling like I've finalized things...unless someone here talks me out of it. Thoughts?

    Fabianski (Elliot)

    Valencia | Yoshida | Alexander-Arnold (Lowe | Long)

    De Bruyne | Willian | Zaha | Ritchie (Loftus-Cheek)

    Kane | Lukaku | Firmino

    1. Joggers Nipple
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Cant really fault it, maube Carroll over Loftus and Cedric over Yoshida

    2. Crofty92
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Not sure about double Palace in midfield

      1. chatburns27
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        I prefer Cedric to Yoshida. Just concerned he won't play GW1.

    3. GS456
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Same front 7 as me.

  24. Boom Xhaka-Laca
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Draft league for players playing the whole season: 617770-142058.
    3 spots left

  25. *Reformed-Character*
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Do you think iwobi is nailed without Sanchez ? Considering him over a 5.5 defender !!!!

    1. OptimusBlack
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I Think Yes

  26. makaveli123
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    RMT score of 342.55 😎

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      About 13 off the max.

    2. Oven Glover
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      5 atb?

      1. makaveli123
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        4

  27. Waxys
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    back from brushing my teeth.Oral B, good I have always rated Oral B higher than Colgate. But i am a tad biased as i prefer blue over red colour wise.

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Rooney tweet?

      1. Waxys
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        what?

  28. Bluebird170
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Where is the Team News page?

  29. Triple P
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Torn between Alli and Kane. Which one looks better guys?

    A) Long (BUR) + Pogba + Alli + Firminio
    B) Mee + Willian + Ritchie + Kane

    Cheers!

  30. Who Ate All Depays?
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Mounie or Gabbi as 3rd striker?

    1. L S P
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Neither

      1. L S P
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        rather have JRod

    2. Lecky Legs FC
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Mounie

    3. Triple P
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Mounie is in my team currently, I'll give him a chance