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Heading into the 2017/18 season, the Fantasy Premier League reclassification of Roberto Firmino from midfielder to forward was a source of much chatter.

Three Gameweeks in and Firmino has made fools of those of us who shied away.

The Brazilian sits joint-top in the overall standings on 26 points, having notched two goals, a pair assists, and twice taken home a maximum bonus points haul. Indeed, only Manchester United’s Henrikh Mkhitaryan (106) leads Firmino (101) in the Bonus Points System (BPS) to date.

Over this international break, interest in the Liverpool man has been understandably high. He has experienced one price hike already (from 8.5 to 8.6), and could possibly rise again between now and the Gameweek 4 deadline.

With Liverpool in rampant form – as evidenced by last week’s 4-0 demolition of Arsenal – Firmino offers managers an opportunity to save valuable funds by downgrading a premium forward option to a lower-priced alternative who has hitherto managed to outperform his more expensive rivals.

Here in the Technical Area, we thought that this week represented a good opportunity to dig into Firmino’s game in greater depth.

Specifically, we will be exploring how his profile compares to that of other FPL forwards and whether that early-season form can continue as the campaign unfolds.

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  1. That Was Easy!
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Hi DZ, what should I do with Willian? I have already taken a hit (Gabbi, Dann > Firmino, Jones) and will not be taking another.

    Start 1:
    A) Willian
    B) Carrol
    C) Stephens (double Southampton)

    1. Alonso The Great Midfielder
      9 years, 1 month ago

      start willian

  2. Foozeball
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Jonny Evans or Dawson?

    Cedric or Yoshida?

    1. Heels_Over_Head
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Cedric. Yoshida could lose starts to Hoedt and VVD.

    2. That Was Easy!
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Evans will possible get his spot back but it's tough to say.

      Cedric, definitely. Yoshida and Stephens...one will go.

  3. Ser Bronn of The Blackwater
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Mane or Mhki?

    1. That Was Easy!
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Mane, however they're tough to compare without the rest of your team, and some price difference there.

      1. Ser Bronn of The Blackwater
        9 years, 1 month ago

        DDG
        Hegazi Cedric Davies
        KDB Salah Ince
        Gabbiadini Lukaku Kane

        Elliot Richarlison Carroll Rangel

        0.5 ITB

        1. Alonso The Great Midfielder
          9 years, 1 month ago

          so mane then as u dont have any pool player

  4. Red Dagger ✪
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Is it worth switching Kane for Lukaku just for this week? Then bringing him back for game week 5? Do you guys really think he will score against Everton away?

    1. That Was Easy!
      9 years, 1 month ago

      That's not worth it, in my opinion. 2 transfers to do this, surely you'll want to solve something else.

    2. fedolefan
      9 years, 1 month ago

      No. Nobody knows if he will score against Everton away but it is still Everton and not Real Madrid. Stoke and Everton can be equally resolute or equally bad depending on the week. No guarantees a move will pay off and you'll waste 2 transfers in the process.

    3. Red Dagger ✪
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I have Stones and PVA to switch out probably for Jones and Naughton. Best to do this with my 2FT instead correct?

      1. That Was Easy!
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Those two transfers surely look like sure things to me. Frees up some $ as well.

    4. Greenbackbøøg…
      9 years, 1 month ago

      If you want a 1 week punt surely Lacazette is better

      1. Red Dagger ✪
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Honestly Laca looks a little lightweight for the Prem for me. I can see him being a bust for this season.

        1. Greenbackbøøg…
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Physically he's similar to Aguero imo, shouldn't be a problem

          1. Red Dagger ✪
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            9 years, 1 month ago

            True. He does look really sharp. Will probably be great if Wenger doesn't keep him on the bench 😉

  5. Francescoli
    9 years, 1 month ago

    What ever happened to that cute ol' price bot puppy?

    1. Diva
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Retired to a secluded farm in the country.

      1. Francescoli
        9 years, 1 month ago

        🙁

  6. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Lindelof to be good value when Jones gets injured?

    1. Slam
      9 years, 1 month ago

      We'll cross that bridge when it comes mate

    2. I am 42
      9 years, 1 month ago

      can united keep cs without jones?

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Imagine saying that one before the Lindelof signing 😆

  7. RamaJama
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Seems like there will be no more price rises before Friday this week. Really different algorithm this year, compared to last year.

    1. Ramboros
      9 years, 1 month ago

      It's pretty much identical. Some price falls on low ownership players while the national teams are playing. The rest stay the same due to a low non-WC transfer volume.

      1. Diva
        9 years, 1 month ago

        This.

  8. Corona Macallan
    9 years, 1 month ago

    A Luka Eriksen
    B Kane Pogba

    1. Holmes
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A

  9. soccercards.com
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Why no love for Fabregas?

    1. Holmes
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Gametime issue

  10. Holmes
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Ashley Williams!

  11. FFSbet.com
    9 years, 1 month ago

    I dont get this on fplstats:
    delta target
    Alli Spurs M A 34.9 £9.5m 0 190084 -7.3

    Now he need 190084 transfers to go up 0.1 or to go down?

    1. FFSbet.com
      9 years, 1 month ago

      *delta////////target
      190084 -7.3

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      9 years, 1 month ago

      190084 for a fall.

    3. Phil Dagger ⭐
      9 years, 1 month ago

      To go down. -

    4. FFSbet.com
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Ta all,so he is well protected.

  12. Ronnies
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Thoughts on this WC team guys ?

    Foster

    Jones - Cedric - Mee - Naughton

    Salah - Eriksen - Pogba

    Kane - Lukaku - Firmino

    (Elliot - Carroll - Chalobah - Mbemba)

    Any feedback welcome?
    Tnks

    1. hemil_3000
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I would remove 1 of Kane or Kaku to get Morata and change 1 defender to Alonso.

    2. aaaaaa
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Alli over Erikson?

  13. tafrère
    9 years, 1 month ago

    If a defender gets a red card (direct or not), does that cancel his amount of yellow cards ?

    1. aaaaaa
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Ya

  14. sodom85
    9 years, 1 month ago

    1.Is Holgate nailed if he fit?
    2.Is he worth to be 4th def?
    Cheers.

    1. tafrère
      9 years, 1 month ago

      More depending on Coleman and maybe Funes Mori I guess.

  15. aaaaaa
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Lost a bet with a friend. I had Carroll captain this week, who beat Kane, Kaku, Aguero.
    This week i have Kompany.

    No more beta after this 🙁

    1. aaaaaa
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Bets*

  16. Expected Toulouse
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Thoughts on the following players as options once their fixtures turn soon:
    Rooney, Keane, Pickford
    Vardy, Mahrez, Maguire

    1. aaaaaa
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Would really be interested in Pickford

    2. Francescoli
      9 years, 1 month ago

      read my mind. i've made a few suggestions below. not sure i can trust the pig...

    3. Holmes
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Prefer Sigurdsson and Williams

      1. Expected Toulouse
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah forgot about Siggy. Will be interesting to see how he goes.

    4. Red Dagger ✪
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Got my eye on Everton Defenders when their fixtures turn.

  17. steven8991
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Mkhi Salah Willian Atsu Carroll
    Lukaku Kane Firmino

    Is it good to stick with that front 8 right now?

    1. aaaaaa
      9 years, 1 month ago

      GTG

    2. Holmes
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Points galore

  18. Francescoli
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Players we'll want for gw6 and the fixture shift

    Maguire, Keane/Jags, Siggy, Mahrez, Vardy, Morata, Hazard

    Any others?

    1. aaaaaa
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Rooney

    2. Expected Toulouse
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Maybe Lacazette or Kolasinac.

  19. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    9 years, 1 month ago

    For those who haven't used their WC, any GW you are looking to play it or just whenever it seems right?

    1. aaaaaa
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Late december. There is so much of rotation and goals flowing!

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        9 years, 1 month ago

        You'll be doing well if you save it for then.

      2. Yank Revolution
        9 years, 1 month ago

        That is really the ideal time...but this new chip could make Xmas changes quick and easy for a week.

    2. Holmes
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Whenever it seems right I guess.

      Maybe when Southampton's fixtures turn tricky or multiple injuries/suspensions

    3. Francescoli
      9 years, 1 month ago

      if i hadn't played it after the opening gameweek, i'd definitely play it gw6. A riff of this:
      Pickford
      Keane, Maguire, Alonso
      Mahrez, Siggy, Willian, Mane
      Vardy, Kane, Morata

      1. IWR
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Nice

    4. Lone Wolf FPL
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Second IB most probably. Even if my team would be ok I think I will use it thst time due to biggest price risers that this IB, to get some money. Of course if my team would be fantantastic (which I doubt) and no much risers that time ( doubt that too) maybe late december but it's more like a wish than a serious plan.

    5. Red Dagger ✪
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Second IB probably or try to hold a little bit longer.

    6. BananaNose Maldonado
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Only when I need it. If I can get through the next break without having to use it I suspect I'll have it for a while.

    7. Yank Revolution
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Pretty much when it seems right...and itd likely be in response to a big fixture shift plus form of current players.

    8. Rasping Drive
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Second IB was always the plan

  20. KGFC
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Best pick?

    1. Mane + Richarlison + Forster + 4.5m def
    2. Salah + Chalobah + Fabianksi + Alonso

    1. aaaaaa
      9 years, 1 month ago

      2

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      9 years, 1 month ago

      2 unless you play all 4 each GW.

      1. KGFC
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I'll probably go with a 433 benching TC and Chalobah. Will play with one 4.5m def though. The way I see, a 4.5m def has more probability to give me better returns than a 4.5m mid.

  21. jose1
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Knee Jerk of the season so far - Kirean Trippier!!!!

  22. Francescoli
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Who to play this week:
    A) Naughton (NEW)
    B) Hegazi (bha)

    1. IWR
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Tough one. A, just.

      1. Francescoli
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah I know right. I'm currently on Hegazi mainly due to the fact that Newcastle scored three last week and Brighton couldn't find the net...

        1. IWR
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Yeah I'd like to be playing both in your shoes. No one else in your squad bench worthy?

          1. Francescoli
            9 years, 1 month ago

            My other defenders are Jones, Yoshida and Mbemba. Mbemba currently on the bench. Jones and Yoshida should have good games against Stoke and Watford... Hegazi and Naughton battling for the final spot.

            Other option is to bench Xhaka and play 433. Although I believe Xhaka will be a good shout against Bournemouth. He's got great stats.

    2. Holmes
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A

  23. IWR
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Foster (Elliot)
    Davies / Cedric / Jones / Hegazi (Mbemba)
    Mane (C) / Eriksen / Pogba (Carroll / RLC)
    Lukaku / Firm / Chich

    4.0 ITB

    Super torn on whether to try and generate another 1.4 to get Chich to Kane gradually or just spend the 4.0 on a Carroll/RLC upgrade?

    1. Francescoli
      9 years, 1 month ago

      You could start preparing yourself for the GW6 shift in fixtures and get Siggy in early. Could you potentially do Eriksen down to Siggy and Chich up to Kane?

      1. IWR
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Almost! 0.2 off.

        I do want to start planning ahead so I'm definitely thinking about Mahrez and Siggy.

        I feel like I'll 100% want Kane next week. Sucks to lose Erik but you can't have them all.

      2. IWR
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks for the Eriksen-Siggy shout. Hadn't considered it.

        The 0.2 could be found by Hegazi-Naughton leaving:

        Foster (Elliot)
        Jones / Davies / Cedric / Naughton (Mbemba)
        Mane / Siggy / Pogba (RLC/TC)
        Kane / Lukaku / Firm

        1. Francescoli
          9 years, 1 month ago

          that looks good.

          also worth looking at leicester and everton defenders from gw6.

          1. IWR
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Absolutely. I like Keane and Maguire, hopefully Maguire is still close to 5.1 by then

  24. Ronnies
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Best pick .. a or b ?

    a) alonso & morata

    b) cedric & kane

    Tnks

    1. IWR
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I like B, but damn that's tough.

  25. Salah
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Hey lads.Would you give hold onto Ritchie if you had him?He ranks pretty high in the ICT Index and has 3 good fixtures coming up.

    1. BananaNose Maldonado
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Yes.

  26. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone looking at Brighton/Newcastle defensive rotation? Gives following run of home games:

    WBM, STO, NEW, LIV, EVE, PAL, SOU, BOU, STO, WAT, PAL

    Ryan, Elliott looks good for GK combo... if Krul wins a place, even better 🙂

    1. Yank Revolution
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Thats a nice rotation, but boy, those defenses are poor thus far. I hate trying to rely on just save points.

  27. Angin out the Begović
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Gabbiadini to Firmino -4 ? i have Mane

    1. Twelve years a slave
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I would say not

      1. Twelve years a slave
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I have Gabbiadini and he in last chance saloon, but does not look right taking a hit to remove before a decent fixture, especially with pool away at City

        1. Angin out the Begović
          9 years, 1 month ago

          sound

  28. Ronnies
    9 years, 1 month ago

    not for me .. gabbi has a good fixture

  29. ★Kuntheman★
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Is this too risky?

    Elliot (Krul)
    Jones Hegazi Naughton (Mbemba, Rosenior)
    Eriksen Salah Mkhitaryan Loftus-Cheek (Carroll)
    Kane Lukaku Jesus

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      9 years, 1 month ago

      yes

    2. Holmes
      9 years, 1 month ago

      On WC? Yes
      Before WC? No

  30. UpAndAway
    9 years, 1 month ago

    On WC - worth dropping Mooy (losing 0.1 in value) for Brady?