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Heading into the 2017/18 season, the Fantasy Premier League reclassification of Roberto Firmino from midfielder to forward was a source of much chatter.

Three Gameweeks in and Firmino has made fools of those of us who shied away.

The Brazilian sits joint-top in the overall standings on 26 points, having notched two goals, a pair assists, and twice taken home a maximum bonus points haul. Indeed, only Manchester United’s Henrikh Mkhitaryan (106) leads Firmino (101) in the Bonus Points System (BPS) to date.

Over this international break, interest in the Liverpool man has been understandably high. He has experienced one price hike already (from 8.5 to 8.6), and could possibly rise again between now and the Gameweek 4 deadline.

With Liverpool in rampant form – as evidenced by last week’s 4-0 demolition of Arsenal – Firmino offers managers an opportunity to save valuable funds by downgrading a premium forward option to a lower-priced alternative who has hitherto managed to outperform his more expensive rivals.

Here in the Technical Area, we thought that this week represented a good opportunity to dig into Firmino’s game in greater depth.

Specifically, we will be exploring how his profile compares to that of other FPL forwards and whether that early-season form can continue as the campaign unfolds.

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  1. timPgoodwin
    9 years, 1 month ago

    What's Spurs defensive line-up gonna look like after their new signings?

    1. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Toby A, Vertonghen, Sanches
      With Aurier and Rose at wing back

      1. Make United Great Again
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Lovely defence on paper.

    2. dimitros
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I don't know but i guess more rotation is expected due to CL.

  2. sunzip14
    9 years, 1 month ago

    I have 1ft and 1.8 ITB. What is the priority here? Taking out TAA/Yoshida for who? or any other move?

    My team
    Foster,
    Dawson, Mee, Yoshida
    Pogba, Salah, Mkhi, Alli
    Lukaku, Jesus, Tammy
    Subs: Elliot, Tarroll, TAA, Hunemeier

  3. Gudjohnsen
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Will Kane drop before saturday?

    Will any striker rise in value before saturday?

    1. MTPockets
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Probably.
      Okazaki, Vokes, Calvert-Lewin highest atm. Perhaps Firmino/Morata, but both still need a lot of transfers.

  4. james_lebron
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Which is the better option?

    a) Alonso + Davies + Bertrand + Brady + Abraham
    b) Jones + Cedric + Mbemba + Chalobah + Lukaku

    1. MTPockets
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I'd pick B, but decent arguments for both.

      1. james_lebron
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Yeh, option A to me has more balance but B just has Lukaku and he seems to make up for all of that.

  5. Jarnathan
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Mbemba

    I've heard different stories on FFS as to whether or not he's likely to play for a significant period of time. I can sell him for a 4.4, but there aren't many options: Holgate (not nailed), Martina (not nailed), Wimmer at Stoke (probably nailed, but won't start for a while).

    I won't need to start the defender, but keeping him for 1 or 2 weeks and then needing to switch later just saves up a future guaranteed transfer and I'm on a WC.

    Just go Wimmer? Or keep Mbemba and hope for a double price rise and a month of games?

    1. Francescoli
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I'd keep Mbemba and monitor Holgate. Holgate to come in GW6 if he can hold his spot.

    2. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Keep him while he is playing. Transfer him out when he isnt

    3. GMBC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Im not an expert, but i think Memba is first in line to be shunted out when an injured defender returns. As the return dates is show as an unknown this is a bit of a roulette spin.
      Note that a lot of people have transferred him in on the expectation of a price increase. If he were to lose his place, many of them would be tempted to switch, especially if a new 4.4 or 4.0 option opened up. If you dont need to play him and have the cash, could move to a 4.4 like Wimmer, who will play, and when he plays will garner lots of interest as a way into a strong defense.

    4. DantheManinaPan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Similar dilemma, but for me I'm trying to decide between Tammy + Mbemba or Calvert-Lewin + 4.5

      1. Jarnathan
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I was looking at Calvert-Lewin before - I think he'd be a great option if he was going to be regular, but Koeman has many options up front - especially now with Siggy in the team.

        1. DantheManinaPan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          9 years, 1 month ago

          It's annoying because he does look exciting!

    5. Respect My Authoritah
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Keep Mbemba. As you say, you won't need to start the defender. Rarely, if ever, does that 3rd sub get used. Even if it does, 0.4 in value is better kept for other areas

    6. FC nelo
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I think that Dummett is out for a while and Mbemba will play until he is back.

    7. RAFA THE GAFFA
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I'm hopeful that Mbemba will nailed down a spot.

  6. cjhewitt92
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Best Midfield option

    A) Mkhi already have Lukaku
    B) Alli already have Kane
    C) Sane already have Salah
    D) David Silva
    E) Hazard already have Morata
    F) Anyone else

    1. Francescoli
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Eriksen?

    2. DantheManinaPan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Alli already have Kane

    3. Respect My Authoritah
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Eriksen imo

    4. Big P
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B, by a distance

    5. nath660
      9 years, 1 month ago

      sanchez for me, arsenal are due to smash someone and with him classed as a midfielder when hes gonna be playing centre forward that means more points!

      1. J T
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Why would he play CF? They just bought Lacazette

  7. Nesvy
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Who play ?

    a/ Carroll
    b/ Ince

    1. Big P
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B

    2. Samurai Blue
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A

  8. GMBC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 1 month ago

    I have Lukaku, mkhi and pogba, but no spurs coverage. Who do i drop and who should i replace them with?

    1. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      9 years, 1 month ago

      None of those
      Somebody else

    2. FC nelo
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I would probably drop Pogba or Lukaku.

  9. FPLAdmiral
    9 years, 1 month ago

    On a WC, gone double Spurs mids over Kane. Thoughts?

    Fabianski
    Jones, Alonso, Hegazi
    Mkhi, Alli, Salah, Eriksen
    Lukaku, Firmino, Abraham

    (Elliot)(Atsu, Lowe, Mbemba)

    Still unsure of Fabianski + Hegazi or Foster + Naughton

    1. GMBC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Looks great. BTW - how much team value is that? seems like above 101!

      1. FPLAdmiral
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Currently 101.1 but with a few more risers should end GW on 101.5ish!

    2. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Good team

    3. Guru Mediation
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Defo foster + naughton. Hegazi not nailed

    4. A or B or C or D
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Thats a lie....

      Your history said you played your wild card last week!!

      1. FPLAdmiral
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Errrm ... no! Last week I stupidly transferred KDB + Firmino > Pogba + Chicharito 🙁

      2. FPLAdmiral
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Just checked, wrong link. I'm definitely not "Whiteladies" 😆

    5. Big P
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Excellent mid and attack

      Jones, Hegazi and Mbemba is transfers waiting to happen - i'd replace one of them with a more nailed / not made of glass option

      1. FPLAdmiral
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Could do Jones + Hegazi > Cedric + Naughton?

  10. Rik Waller
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Which one, considering the next few fixtures.

    A - Kane Lukaku Chica
    B - Kane morata Firmino

    Cheers

    1. Jackson99
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B

  11. bitz13
    9 years, 1 month ago

    WC team

    De Gea
    Cedric, David Luiz, Naughton, Kolasinac
    Atsu, Pedro, Alli
    Lukaku, Firmino, Jesus

    Subs: Elliot, Mbemba, Oriol Romeu, Chalobah
    3.0 ITB

    Planning on playing 4-3-3 throughout the season and going for
    Pedro to Hazard when fully fit and might do Lukaku/Alli to Kane/Mkhi

    Any thoughts?

    1. Respect My Authoritah
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Lose Jesus

      1. MTPockets
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Why?

        1. Respect My Authoritah
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Because there are 3 forward slots and more than 3 better options than Jesus imo

          1. MTPockets
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Fair enough although I doubt there'll be better at the price.

            1. Respect My Authoritah
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Morata and Firmino better at a lower price for me. Lukaku and Kane better at the upper end

              1. MTPockets
                9 years, 1 month ago

                They already have Lukaku/Firmino. Kane for sure but 2.1m more. Not convinced Morata will do better but we'll see.

    2. FPLAdmiral
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Defence way too heavy and yet still no Alonso! Mid is very light, would definitely downgrade Kolas

  12. Scotty B
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Foster
    Cedric Mee Jones Alonso
    Salah Pogba Eriksen
    Morata Lukaku Firmino

    Elliot Carroll Chalobah Mbemba

    On WC, 0.1 ITB.
    Any changes I should consider?

    1. Scotty B
      9 years, 1 month ago

      *Foster S/B Fabianski

  13. Bald Eagle
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 1 month ago

    What's my priority?

    A Daniels out for any decent replacement or
    B Fraser to Brady?

    Thanks all.

    1. Spike ⚽️
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Won't you want Daniels for GW 5 agst Brighton?

      1. Bald Eagle
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Inevitable price drop is bugging me and I plan to WC soon and might get him back cheaper, but I do like him in GW5 for sure. Currently leaning towards Fraser out anyway.

        Cheers mate.

    2. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B

      1. Taking the Mkhitaryan
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Priorities
        Players that haven't been starting should go first

        1. Bald Eagle
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Yep, that's my thinking also. Fraser not playing last game should be alarming enough. Thanks mate.

    3. DantheManinaPan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A is unnecessary, so B

      1. Bald Eagle
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Daniels as a wing back could do something even vs ARS possibly. Should look at him long term and not worry about his price.

        Thanks mate.

  14. Cabellafan
    9 years, 1 month ago

    On WC: Best 4.5 mid? RLC, Carrol, Chalobah

    1. Spike ⚽️
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Carroll especially from GW 6

      1. Guru Mediation
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Swansea just signed 2 central mids, I'd be wary

        1. Spike ⚽️
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Good point but Carroll is Swansea's workhorse

    2. Guru Mediation
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Chalobah

    3. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Chalobah looking best for attacking points if u are a form guy
      Carroll has the fixtures if
      u are a fixtures kind of guy

    4. Partick Bateman
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Cork.

    5. Respect My Authoritah
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Right now, Chalobah. Carroll's security is a little unclear. I'd back Carroll to keep his place though

    6. Cabellafan
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Thanks all! Between Carroll and Chalobah then..

  15. tattywelshie
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Kola > Naughton (would allow me to upgrade Redmond to Erikson)

    A. Yes - 100%
    B. Wait until after Bournmouth game then get rid

    1. A or B or C or D
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A

    2. Big P
      9 years, 1 month ago

      If for free, then this week, sure

  16. Lightbody
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Start: Stones (vs Liverpool) or T.Carroll (vs Newcastle) ?

    1. laGan1n1
      9 years, 1 month ago

      TC

      1. Spike ⚽️
        9 years, 1 month ago

        this

    2. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      9 years, 1 month ago

      You really can't decide whether to play a defender that didn't start his last game and if he does start is playing a team that has scored 8 goals in 3 ganes

    3. Samurai Blue
      9 years, 1 month ago

      TC

  17. Egg noodle
    9 years, 1 month ago

    People were talking about Kane dropping one, two or even three times. He hasn't even dropped once!

    1. Spike ⚽️
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Well spotted

    2. Fred54
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Most people do transfers Friday night or Saturday morning, obviously the latter won't affect price till after deadline. So plenty of time.

    3. MTPockets
      9 years, 1 month ago

      If threshold is about 10%, implies 170k-ish wildcards.

  18. A or B or C or D
    9 years, 1 month ago

    HELP Needed! GTG? Rate if possible (copy the template and replace "?")

    GK: Foster
    DEF: Stephens-Mee-Jones-Kol
    MID: Mhki-Willian-D Silva
    FWD: Lukaku (C)- Kane - Frimino

    BCH: Elliot-Dawson-Carroll-Astu

    GK: ?/10
    DEF: ?/10
    MID: ?/10
    FWD: ?/10

    BCH: ?/10

    1. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Looks good to go

    2. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Not really a willian fan if you want critique

      1. A or B or C or D
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Think this is his last week with me. Looking to swap for alonso and week mid.

        Do you think he will start?

        1. Taking the Mkhitaryan
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Yes I would think he will this week

  19. PocketZola
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Is it a good idea to go the opposite to leader in your league? So if they have pog you go mkhi, if they have erik you go alli?

    1. MTPockets
      9 years, 1 month ago

      No, just pick who you think gets most points.

    2. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Not this early in season
      Last 5 weeks for that

    3. Partick Bateman
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Wouldn't worry about your leader at this stage. Long way to go, pick the team you think is best.

    4. Ron_Swanson
      9 years, 1 month ago

      maybe towards the end of the season if you need to make up points.

  20. Tiamani Warrior
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Did anyone see france play? Was pogba very attacking? I still can't decide if he's the real deal now or just had a lucky start

    1. Respect My Authoritah
      9 years, 1 month ago

      He'll do well over the season, but he won't get returns every game

      1. Tiamani Warrior
        9 years, 1 month ago

        For 8 mil I'd want 5-5.5 ppg think it'll happen?

        1. Respect My Authoritah
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Nope. That sees him getting around 200 points over the season!

  21. Dazzrb
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Best defender at 5.4? To fill Danilo
    Def atm...
    Dawson Stephens Danilo

    1. laGan1n1
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Monreal

      1. Taking the Mkhitaryan
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Monreal hahahaha 3 games 8 goals conceded
        Great suggestion

        1. laGan1n1
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Ok

    2. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Jones

    3. Respect My Authoritah
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Jones. Cedric also a good shout for a bit more security

      1. Dazzrb
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Double Southampton defence a good idea?

        1. Respect My Authoritah
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Not sure why it's a any different to having 1

    4. Partick Bateman
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Cedric

  22. laGan1n1
    9 years, 1 month ago

    KDB > Ozil (C) probably this week for me

    Mesut against Bournemouth 3 games - 2 goals and assist

    1. Respect My Authoritah
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I'd honestly bet on a Bournemouth win this weekend tbh

      1. laGan1n1
        9 years, 1 month ago

        no way, mate

        1. Respect My Authoritah
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Arsenal fan I take it?

          Obviously, an Arsenal win is the likely outcome, but considering the improvement with Bournemouth playing a back 3 v City, can see them stifling Arsenal and King/Defoe exposing the backline

  23. Taking the Mkhitaryan
    9 years, 1 month ago

    I am prepared to be laughed off the site buuut
    Knockaert looked good last gameweek
    I know Brighton haven't been much threat but he was injured
    He looked fit and sharp
    At 5.9 he could be a steal with some kind home games upcomimg

    1. Netley Lucas
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Good numbers last game, well spotted

    2. Respect My Authoritah
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I don't think 5.9 represents a steal. At 5.0, yes. At 5.5, probably "good value" at best. At 5.9, probably going to do as well as his price suggests imo

  24. whodatgoal
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Joselu or Tammy?

    1. Big P
      9 years, 1 month ago

      T

  25. C0YS
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Man U fans:

    Thoughts on Blind? Just how nailed is he?

    1. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      9 years, 1 month ago

      When UCL starts he will get rotated

    2. Big P
      9 years, 1 month ago

      surely Darmian and Shaw are a threat?

    3. Respect My Authoritah
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Not nailed at all. Too slow. Darmian is a better defender

    4. QuintonFortune25
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Keep if you have him but don't bring in

    5. LC1
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Not nailed. Definitely wouldn't bring him in.

  26. Big P
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Can Josh King keep close to Defoe in terms on FPL points this year?

    Not seen Bournemouth much, but that 0.6m extra could be really useful

    1. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Yes. Based on so far, they will both be close
      On about 4pts
      Last chance saloon against Brighton or I will be selling Bournemouth assets

      1. Big P
        9 years, 1 month ago

        🙂

        I'm talking long term though.....

  27. SUPER MOKH
    9 years, 1 month ago

    VOTES NEEDED HERE!

    After a long headache for a decision on Danilo's replacement, it now boils down to;

    JONES VS BERTRAND

    I need your votes guys, would appreciate it if you could come with justifications as well especially regarding their international duty performances, I couldn't watch both of the games. Both have good fixtures ahead, and good defensive records. Jones with better CS chance while Bert offers more attacking threat.

    My other def: Alonso - Stephens - Mee - Hunemeier. *Im planning to let go ship out Stephens in next few weeks as I think he is under threat with the presence of Hoedt and VVD, and will get likes of Naughton/Dunk/Zanka/Schindler/Maguire.

    Thanks!

    1. QuintonFortune25
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Jones then Cedric for Stephens if he gets dropped

      1. SUPER MOKH
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah good idea too as i think its wise to have Saints cover on the def if Stephens gets dropped. Thanks!

    2. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Bertie.
      More chance of attacking returns

      1. SUPER MOKH
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Hows his performance last night? Do you think his attacking returns enough to justify his extra 0.5 price?

    3. Respect My Authoritah
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Currently, I'd say Jones. Bertrand's attacking threat is useless if Saints can't score

      1. SUPER MOKH
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Good point mate, just realize Saints hardly score these days.

  28. QuintonFortune25
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Start Richarlison (Southampton away) or Carroll (Newcastle home)?

    1. Make United Great Again
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Rich

    2. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      9 years, 1 month ago

      The stats say Rich

  29. A or B or C or D
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Dunk for Brighton has more threat than 90% of midfielders.

    At 4.5m is anyone considering getting him in?

    1. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Did you base this statistic on how many goals Brighton have been scoring for fun

      1. A or B or C or D
        9 years, 1 month ago

        *13 midfielders

        There's some hard facts for you!!

    2. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Please post that
      Be interested to see

  30. Erez Avni
    9 years, 1 month ago

    any suggestions how can I improve this team?

    Foster (Elliot)

    Alonso - Jones - Cedric (Mbemba, Rangel)

    Alli - Salah - Pogba - Atsu (Carroll)

    Lukaku - Firmino - morata

    Cheers!