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Heading into the 2017/18 season, the Fantasy Premier League reclassification of Roberto Firmino from midfielder to forward was a source of much chatter.

Three Gameweeks in and Firmino has made fools of those of us who shied away.

The Brazilian sits joint-top in the overall standings on 26 points, having notched two goals, a pair assists, and twice taken home a maximum bonus points haul. Indeed, only Manchester United’s Henrikh Mkhitaryan (106) leads Firmino (101) in the Bonus Points System (BPS) to date.

Over this international break, interest in the Liverpool man has been understandably high. He has experienced one price hike already (from 8.5 to 8.6), and could possibly rise again between now and the Gameweek 4 deadline.

With Liverpool in rampant form – as evidenced by last week’s 4-0 demolition of Arsenal – Firmino offers managers an opportunity to save valuable funds by downgrading a premium forward option to a lower-priced alternative who has hitherto managed to outperform his more expensive rivals.

Here in the Technical Area, we thought that this week represented a good opportunity to dig into Firmino’s game in greater depth.

Specifically, we will be exploring how his profile compares to that of other FPL forwards and whether that early-season form can continue as the campaign unfolds.

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  1. Jam0sh
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Hello guys. What would you do with this lot? If I stick to the team I have and don't take a hit, would you play Carroll, Suttner or Fraser?

    Foster
    Davies, Stephens, Jones
    Willian, Eriksen, Mkhitaryan, Carroll
    Lukaku, Kane, Firmino

    Subs: Elliott --- Suttner, Fraser, Long --- 0.4 ITB, 0 FT

    A) Stick
    B) Fraser -> Atsu (-4)
    C) Something else, what?

    1. QuintonFortune25
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Look for Willian replacements, think Hazard may start

      1. Jam0sh
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Yep. Willian, Fraser and possibly Stephens the ones to get rid of in the coming weeks. But is removing Fraser or Willian for a hit worth it now?

        1. QuintonFortune25
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Actually since you have no free transfers I wouldn't take a hit because Willian still might start. Keep checking news on Hazards fitness and see what Conte says first. Defo don't take a hit for Fraser if he's on your bench this week

  2. Andy Unsocial
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone considering Aaron Ramsey for a midfield slot ?
    For 7m and with Arsenal having decent fixtures,is he worth a look ?

    1. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I think you are a couple of weeks late with that particular bandwagon my friend

    2. Flying Finns
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I have brought him in on a punt, easy to downgrade to Brady etc if not performing

    3. Respect My Authoritah
      9 years, 1 month ago

      In short, no

    4. Big P
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Prefer Zaha at the price still, despite the dodgy start Palace have made, he' playing behind the striker and should be fit for Burnley next week

    5. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Yes, he is in my team for the season, barring any injuries.

  3. A or B or C or D
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Bottomed! Rate if possible (copy the template and replace "?")

    GK: Foster
    DEF: Stephens-Mee-Jones-Kol
    MID: Mhki-Willian-D Silva
    FWD: Lukaku (C)- Kane - Frimino

    BCH: Elliot-Dawson-Carroll-Astu

    TEMPLATE
    GK: ?/10
    DEF: ?/10
    MID: ?/10
    FWD: ?/10

    BCH: ?/10

    1. dimitros
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      GK: 9/10
      DEF: 8/10
      MID: 8/10
      FWD: 10/10

      BCH: 10/10

  4. Stat virgin
    9 years, 1 month ago

    I've got two free transfers and don't really want to use them:

    Foster (Elliot)
    Yoshida Bertrand Dawson (Suttner) (Mee)
    Ramsey Salah Mane Redmond (Carroll)
    Firmino Jesus Lukaku

    Ramsey, Redmond and Jesus are most at risk but they all have decent attacking fixtures and I think that they could all do well this week

    I can only think of a sideways move to downgrade Bertrand to Cedric to free up 0.5 and get Kane and a mid in for Jesus and Ramsey/Redmond next week with my 2 carried free transfers

    I'm not getting rid of the Liverpool players, subs aren't really downgradable

    Any suggestions please?

    1. Ted Striker
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Don't use a transfer just for the sake of it. If you like your team then stick with it.

      1. Stat virgin
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Good point

    2. IWR
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Yoshida to Naughton?

      Spread the risk.

      1. Stat virgin
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah Yoshida/Bertrand to Naughton to free up some money for next week might be the way to go, thanks

      2. Francescoli
        9 years, 1 month ago

        yeah i think that's the transfer to do. or yoshida to cedric.

    3. Luca Toni
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Sideways transfer option seems good as you can't carry forward more than 1 transfer anyways..
      If you feel confident hold the other transfer ..

  5. Lanley Staurel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Is this gameweek the time to place a gamble on the captaincy? Spurs and Man Utd play away and the likes of inconsistent Arsenal and goal shy Southampton have easy fixtures on paper. So could Lacazette or Gabbi prove a huge differential or a dodgy gamble?

    1. Respect My Authoritah
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A low-key gamble imo. Don't see anyone doing particularly well

    2. Kolarov Fpl Legend
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Yes imo. Firmino for me, they love big games.

  6. D_R_S_PORT_S
    9 years, 1 month ago

    On wildcard!
    Need some suggestion!
    3-4-3

    Foster-Elliot

    Cedric-jones-Davies-naughton-mbemba

    Salah-mkhi-eriksen-Brady-TC

    Lukaku-morata-firmino

    1. Sickboy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Looks great as it is

    2. Ted Striker
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Stick!

  7. Sickboy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone keeping Mikhi, Pogba and Lukaku for the foreseeable?

    If not who are you getting rid of?

    Cheers.

    1. Clandlewood
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Got Kaku and miki and keeping both

      1. dimitros
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Me too

    2. Tiamani Warrior
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Got pog and luk but considering losing both if I wildcard soon

    3. Respect My Authoritah
      9 years, 1 month ago

      If I had all 3, I'd be looking to ditch Pogba when I had a spare transfer or 2

    4. Ted Striker
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Pog, Mkhi and Jones. 🙂

    5. Make United Great Again
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Jones Mhki Lukaku. All staying.

      1. dimitros
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Will have same after WC today.

        1. Sickboy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Thanks everyone

  8. Clandlewood
    9 years, 1 month ago

    It feels wrong that 1/3 of my squad is made up of Newcastle and Swansea players

    1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I have triple Swansea

      1. Gooner Kebab
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Fab, Naughton and TC?

        1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Ayew, Naughton and Tc

    2. Lone Wolf FPL
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Good for you...for now

  9. trinzoo
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Can Salah' spot be in danger once Cout is back ?

    Wanted to do KDB > Salah but am now wondering...

    1. Clandlewood
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Have salah but would prefer mane because he seems safer.

    2. Respect My Authoritah
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Possibly. Not directly from Cout, but could have a knock on effect around the squad with rotation

      1. Respect My Authoritah
        9 years, 1 month ago

        As in, Salah will still be first choice, but it gives Klopp even more freedom to bench him when needed

    3. Lone Wolf FPL
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Think that the answer is yes but girst of all I think Cou will play a bit deeper with all 3 up front snd even if Klopp decide to rotate than all 3 are a risk, not just only Mo.

    4. J T
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Firmino is the biggest risk he's played the most minutes and has just returned from international duties.

      1. Sedemuda
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Firmino hasn't played any minutes on international duty. Salah and Mane have played both games. Therefore I would think Firmino has the best chance of starting.

      2. MTPockets
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Brazil play today, and they've already qualified so Firmino may start.

        1. trinzoo
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Thanks all, will rather pick Mane!

  10. Feed tha Sheep
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Is Jesus > Lukaku a no-brainer?

    1. Respect My Authoritah
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Yeah

    2. Lone Wolf FPL
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Do it!

    3. IWR
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Yes sir

    4. Jaunty Jonty
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Ha - why are you asking! Obviously.

  11. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Rooney. Alli, Shelvey and Arsenal.

    Sort your lives out. tx.

    1. Gooner Kebab
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Piers Morgan and Kardashians too.

      1. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
        9 years, 1 month ago

        ban

        1. Gooner Kebab
          9 years, 1 month ago

          lol, man up.

  12. Sweden11
    9 years, 1 month ago

    who to bring in for KdB?
    A) Mikhi
    B) Pogba
    C) Alli
    D) Eriksen

    1. Respect My Authoritah
      9 years, 1 month ago

      D

    2. Ted Striker
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Mkhi and Pogba will be the value players of the season, I think.

    3. Lone Wolf FPL
      9 years, 1 month ago

      C and B for a hit. If one than C

  13. PocketZola
    9 years, 1 month ago

    KDB is at home, he is a quality player so he can start getting points?

    1. Ted Striker
      9 years, 1 month ago

      He sure is, but he's played much deeper lately, less appealing from a fantasy point of view. The amount of talent at Man City scares me from a rotation perspective. Got a little burnt last season.

    2. Kolarov Fpl Legend
      9 years, 1 month ago

      You have patience my friend. I got rid after gw2

    3. G-Whizz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      9 years, 1 month ago

      No. Plays too deep, not worth spending that amount of £££

    4. Lone Wolf FPL
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Plays DM, costs almost 10 mil!
      Get attacking mid or just cheaper DM as they cost 5 mil

      1. bojack
        9 years, 1 month ago

        9.9 😉

    5. LC1
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Get rid mate.

  14. Boris Bodega
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Morning all. Anyone else think that Dele Ali should be banned for 8 games for that gesture last night?

    1. Gooner Kebab
      9 years, 1 month ago

      As a owner, no. As a gooner, yes.

      1. Boris Bodega
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I coach U8 football, and now I am going to have to explain to 7 year olds that they cannot do that during a game, despite one of their 'heroes' doing it when playing for England.

        1. Lone Wolf FPL
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Tell the kid that he will be baned 🙂

        2. Gooner Kebab
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Not all heroes are role models.

          On a WC qualifier with the whole nation watching and he flips the bird and expects no consequences?

    2. _Make
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Aside from anything else it's just such a lame, bland and unimaginative gesture. Imagine how much he actually offended and upset his opponent (not at all), and now he looks like an idiot and if he's banned he deserves it. It's mindless.

  15. Dr Dream
    9 years, 1 month ago

    @Sauzee if he's on.

    Roman Dennis is rumoured to be out if The Vuelta today. Hope you haven't done your transfers yet.

    1. MTPockets
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Do you get an EPO boost?

      1. Francescoli
        9 years, 1 month ago

        lol

  16. Hoofedgod
    9 years, 1 month ago

    willian -> fabregas
    Danilo -> Alonso
    (-4) 1.5 itb

    Assuming both Willian and Danilo won't start? also worries about stephans and Moreno - but currently would like to stick with them and see what happens

    De Gea, Elliot
    Stephans, Moreno, Danilo, Mee, Mariappa
    Mkhi, Willian, Mooy, Carroll, Mane
    Chica, Lukaku, Kane

    1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
      9 years, 1 month ago

      No to first one

    2. Lone Wolf FPL
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Just danilo move

    3. Hoofedgod
      9 years, 1 month ago

      need the 0.1 to make the alonso move...

      or is there another defender i should be looking at with 7m to spend

      1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Do the willian move just not for Fab

        1. Hoofedgod
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Any recommendations - I can't see many 6.9 below worth having...

  17. Make United Great Again
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Hazards return is going to shake things up. I hope it has a positive effect on Morata.

    1. Gooner Kebab
      9 years, 1 month ago

      This would be interesting how Haz impacts Morata as he gets his from headers (mostly).

    2. Ted Striker
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I'm tempted to captain Morata this week. No clear cut captaincy option, plus Leicester have been leaky.

  18. Sweden11
    9 years, 1 month ago

    would you do:
    KdB + Jesus + Trippier --> Pogba + Kane + 5.1 Def?
    And which defender if so?

    1. Hoofedgod
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Yes and Jones

      1. Sweden11
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Already have Jones, thinking about Naughton. Forgot to mention that the transfer will mean -8 points.

    2. dimitros
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      For sure

  19. SUPER MOKH
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Any chance Jones being rested by Jose after two international games? Lindelof is there.

    1. LC1
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Highly doubt it

    2. Sweden11
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Dont think so. Jose said VNL will get his chance in CL.

    3. Jaunty Jonty
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Nope - Jones is banned in the CL

  20. dimitros
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 1 month ago

    I have a dilemma for my WC defense:

    I have Hegazi and Jones and wondering which 3 to choose:

    1) Alonso Mbemba Mee/Naugton (0.3 will be remaining)
    2) Bailly Maguire Mee/Naughton (0.1 will be remaining)
    3) Other

    Also, don't know who to choose from Mee or Naughton...

  21. jose1
    9 years, 1 month ago

    I think GW6 is prime time for the first WC of the season. Best time to bring in Alonso, few Everton players and freshen up the rest of the mob. Thoughts?

    1. jose1
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Well i think so antway ha ha

  22. Jaunty Jonty
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Hmmmm
    Save Transfer? Got 2.0 ITB

    Foster (Elliot)
    Valencia, Bailly, Dawson, Bertrand, Mee
    Salah, Mooy, Eriksen (RLC, Kante)
    Lukaku, Kane (Quaner)

    I'm a defence fan so don't take the easy route with that!
    It doesn't seem like there's any midfield value between 8m and 5m, so that's why I haven't upgraded there.
    Same with forwards, or do you reckon there's someone in the 4.5-6.5 range?

  23. james_lebron
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Which of these WC teams is better?

    OPTION A

    Fabianski (Elliot)
    Alonso - Davies - Cedric - Naughton (Mee)
    Alli - Salah - Pogba - Brady (Carroll)
    Kane - Firmino (Abraham)

    1.6 ITB

    OPTION B

    Fabianski (Elliot)
    Jones* - Cedric - Naughton - Mee (Mbemba*)
    Alli - Salah - Pogba (Chlobah* -Carroll)
    Kane - Lukau* - Firmino

    0 ITB

    1. Jaunty Jonty
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B.

    2. LC1
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B for sure

      1. james_lebron
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks guys! really like the look of Alonso, but can't seem to fit him in

    3. Bald Eagle
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B just

  24. anish10
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Get rid of Walker or Kola?

    1. Captain Vantastic™
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Yes

      1. anish10
        9 years, 1 month ago

        That's not an answer ha!

    2. Hoofedgod
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Keep Walker

    3. Bald Eagle
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Kola for now. Monitor him, you might want him back soon.

  25. It’s gonna Ben Mee
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Will Sanches be the cheap mid in everyone's teams two months from now?

    1. Jaunty Jonty
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Welcome to the bandwagon Sanches, all aboard - we're going to the moon

  26. pakornk
    9 years, 1 month ago

    With Clyne injured, it just makes more sense for Klopp to play 3 at the back and OX as the wingback?

    1. Sweden11
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Dont have enough CBs imo. Gomez and TAA have actually done it very well at right back to so dont see the need.

    2. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Playing as cdm so probably no

  27. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Deciding to ditch kane on my wc team

    Thoughts?

    Thoughts on this wc side

    Foster / Elliott

    Kolasinac / jones / Cedric / naughton / mbemba

    Silva / hazard / eriksen / Carroll/ chalobah

    Lukaku / lacazette / firmino

    0.3 itb

    1. MTPockets
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I like that it's a bit different. Good luck.

  28. The Royal Robin
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Is anyone considering Brady?

    1. Bald Eagle
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I am. My transfer in this GW if no injuries.

    2. _Make
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I have longed for the day when the robin and the bald eagle can co-exist peacefully. FFS: bringing hunters and prey together since [however long].

      1. The Royal Robin
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Ha!

    3. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Definitely. If I had a million in the bank I'd be upgrading Carroll or Loftus-Cheek to him. Sitting tight for now and hoping he stays quiet for a couple of weeks but I think he's comfortably the best option in that price bracket.

    4. Reiko
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Could be a good shout for this week but tough fixture next week.

    5. dimitros
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Yes, considering Mooy -> Brady

    6. G-Whizz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Yes.

  29. pakornk
    9 years, 1 month ago

    I think Spurs are a shambles playing at Wembley. Can't they just play at White Hart Lane while they continue the reconstruction?

    1. The Rumour Mill
      9 years, 1 month ago

      At least Alli and Kane have won there this season now...

    2. Reiko
      9 years, 1 month ago

      And lose out on the revenue generated. Not sure it is a financially sound plan. The management cannot anticipate poor performance from a team just because they switched stadiums.

  30. PlayPercentage
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Johnny Evans is back fit, and scored last night.
    Does this mean Hegazi will be on the bench?

    1. Reiko
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Won't he and Hegazi both play CB with Dawson at RB and one of Gibbs/Nyom at LB?