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Heading into the 2017/18 season, the Fantasy Premier League reclassification of Roberto Firmino from midfielder to forward was a source of much chatter.

Three Gameweeks in and Firmino has made fools of those of us who shied away.

The Brazilian sits joint-top in the overall standings on 26 points, having notched two goals, a pair assists, and twice taken home a maximum bonus points haul. Indeed, only Manchester United’s Henrikh Mkhitaryan (106) leads Firmino (101) in the Bonus Points System (BPS) to date.

Over this international break, interest in the Liverpool man has been understandably high. He has experienced one price hike already (from 8.5 to 8.6), and could possibly rise again between now and the Gameweek 4 deadline.

With Liverpool in rampant form – as evidenced by last week’s 4-0 demolition of Arsenal – Firmino offers managers an opportunity to save valuable funds by downgrading a premium forward option to a lower-priced alternative who has hitherto managed to outperform his more expensive rivals.

Here in the Technical Area, we thought that this week represented a good opportunity to dig into Firmino’s game in greater depth.

Specifically, we will be exploring how his profile compares to that of other FPL forwards and whether that early-season form can continue as the campaign unfolds.

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  1. wolves_simmo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Money no object....Which 3 defenders would you have?

    1. bojack
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Alonso Bailly Davies

    2. _Make
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I think it will end up being Alonso, Kolasinac, and either of Azpi or Valencia (who is nailed into a good defence whilst being a bit rubbish at attacking returns recently).

    3. Alexis Nonsense
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Alonso - Valencia - Aurier

    4. MTPockets
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Alonso, Kolasinac, Valencia

    5. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Alonso, Alder and Kompany.

    6. danishdynamite
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Alonso, Mendy, Kola

  2. Bouncebackability
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 17 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Massive shame neither TAA or Gomez are not nailed.. BUT, are those wildcarding tempted to put one in anyway, or is that just creating an unnecessary problem? They may not come on if they don’t start so as long as you have four other defenders then may be worth it. If I was wildcarding, I’d definitely be considering it.

    Liverpool and defence are words that don’t often go together, but Gomez got attacking returns last game and TAA would be on some set pieces (unless Coutinho is on the pitch). I think the risk would have potential.

    1. Basil1977
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Clyne has been left out of the Liverpool champs league squad, which gives both players a great chance to make the postion there own. (on going injury) With Moreno and Robertson both available for under 5 mill. Lots to watch with the liverpool defence. Not sure who is nailed thou.

      1. Bouncebackability
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 17 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        None are nailed, but the upside has potential as long as you have a decent bench elsewhere. It is one thing having a 4m non playing defender but if you can stretch another .5 for a rotation risk who could potentially get double figures, it may be worth it.

    2. MTPockets
      8 years, 10 months ago

      No - breaks my no liverpool defenders policy.

      1. Bouncebackability
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 17 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        I would normally have that policy as Lovren has been the cheapest option previously – But at 4.5 I think that policy needs to be looked at again at least. I guess you argue to include Moreno (gulps) in the discussion at 4.5m.

        1. MTPockets
          8 years, 10 months ago

          It's partly previous let downs/value. But also prefer not to use up spot for defender given attacking options.

    3. Gregor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      7 clean sheets in 9 games isn't it?

  3. Basil1977
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Advise needed please?
    I have had the best start i've ever had to a season, and want to carry on the form, i have 2 FT's but i have 0.0 itb. current squad
    Foster Elliott
    Cedric Davies Blind Mee Hunemeier
    Salah Alli Willian Tadic Carrol
    Lukaku Jesus Firmino

    Worried about Jesus rotation and Willian game time with Hazard returning.
    A) Jesus to Morata and roll over transfer.
    B) Jesus to Morata and Willian to Ramsey (Arsenal cover great fixtures/poor form)
    C) Something else? Might take a hit giving 3 transfers.

    1. Luca Toni
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      A is the only viable option ..

      1. Basil1977
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        thank you for the reply

    2. Bouncebackability
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Would be tempted to ditch Willian for a someone cheaper. Brady maybe, home fixtures are sweet.

      Or even ditch the 4mill Hun and get Mbemba – Won’t be nailed for too long, but will protect you from losing .1 shortly and if nothing else is screaming at you and you have 2FT then why not.

      1. Basil1977
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        thank you for the reply. Not to bothered about losing 0.1 on Hun for Mbemba would rather roll over a transfer. You never know what injuries or suspenions are round the corner, then worry about losing 0.1

        1. Bouncebackability
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 17 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          But you have 2FT and need to use one. Otherwise yes, definitely don't waste a transfer on that move

  4. The Mighty Whites
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    on WC, 0.2 itb, thoughts?

    Foster, Elliot

    Jones, Cedric, Naughton, Lowton, Lowe

    Mane, Alli, Pogba, Atsu, Carroll

    Kane, Morata, Firmino

    1. Reiko
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Nice team.

    2. Basil1977
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      looks good

  5. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Aguero -> Lacazette for a FT

    Yes or No? Would plan on Captaining Lacazette

    1. Reiko
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      It is risky and could pay off yes, but what about the week after? Don't they have a tough fixture?

      1. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Yeah we have Chelsea away after, but then double Home Fixtures against West Brom & Brighton

        1. Reiko
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          By that time, we would gain clarity as to who plays upfront - Laca, Welbeck or Giroud

          1. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            The Europa League will of started then, reckon Welbeck will play in those games & Lacazette will get a break, we haven't signed a 50m ST to put on the bench imo

  6. Alexis Nonsense
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    If Alli is punished for giving the finger, it won't affect PL right?

    1. Reiko
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      No, the PL will go on as usual.

    2. trinzoo
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      It will affect FPL though, in a positive way !

    3. Tommyg
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      It might. Other have been given game bans for doing similar, like Ronaldo.

  7. Heavy Data
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Agonising over what team to pick. HELP!!!!!!

    A)

    Forster
    Bailly-Alonso-Cedric
    Alli-Miki-Salah-Eriksen-Pogba
    Mounie-Firminio

    B)

    Forster
    Jones-Alonso-Cedric
    Richarlison-Miki-Eriksen-Cork
    Firminio-Lukaku-Kane

    C)

    DDG
    Cedric-Hegazi-Alonso
    Pogba-Alli-Miki-D.Silva-Salah
    Kane-Mounie-Firminio

    1. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      C

    2. Basil1977
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      b for me love that team ofter then cork can you raise an extra 0.5 for astu?

      1. Heavy Data
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        I could swap Forster to Foster and then do Cork to Astu

  8. Sweden11
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Is Trippier + KdB + Jesus --> Naughton + Pogba + Kane -8 worth it?

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      No just do KDB to Pogba

  9. Don Kloppeone
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Is Bavies likely to play this GW? I have 1FT and want 4 strong playing defenders. Currently have:
    Bavies, Jones, Alonso, Hegazi, Mbemba

    Bavies > Naughton/Yoshi/Cedric or save the FT and hope he plays?

    1. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Save. No reason he doesn't play.

    2. MASTER ROSHI
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I don't see any reason for him not to play... Rose still isn't back

  10. Miguel Sanchez
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Help needed - captain choice has jumped between about 6 players this GW:

    A) Alonso (lei)
    B) Kolasinac (BOU)
    C) Mkhitaryan (stk)
    D) Pogba (stk)
    E) Eriksen (eve)
    F) Firmino (mci)
    G) Chicharito (HUD)
    H) Kane (eve)

    1. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      C

    2. ryacoo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      H or G

    3. Cok3y5murf
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      C

    4. Champione
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Firmino (only if no Kompany) or Lukaku for me. Would be tempted by Kane if I had him but think Everton will be stronger this week now that they haven't played Euro league qualifiers before PL match

    5. Tommyg
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      C or H

    6. Miguel Sanchez
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Interesting - was expecting a spread of opinion, it is currently on Mkhitaryan but not sure how I feel about it.

  11. IRBOX âš½
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Any improvements to be had here?

    Fabianski Elliott
    Alonso Bertrand Jones Hegazi Holgate
    Eriksen Salah Mkhi Brady Carroll
    Kane Firmino Chicarito

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Hegazi and Fabianski to Naughton and Foster might be more secure. Can see WBA back line moving towards being

      Nyom Dawson Evans Gibbs

    2. Tommyg
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Well balanced team. Can't see anything obviously wrong. Heg might lose his place and holgate might also be dropped, but I'm guessing you know that already and they are picks chosen because of budget restrain.

      1. IRBOX âš½
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Possibly. I got Hegazi at 4.5 so could trade him out for two nailed 4.5

    3. Miguel Sanchez
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Who you captaining this week?

      1. IRBOX âš½
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Arry! Even as a toffees fan

        1. Miguel Sanchez
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Did you catch the England game yesterday - he looked a bit off the pace still and I rate your CBs

          1. IRBOX âš½
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Yeah but surely he has to start converting opportunities. Salah could be a sneaky pick! Who are you weighing up?

            1. Miguel Sanchez
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              Asked above and no real consensus but seems like its on Mkhitaryan

  12. ryacoo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Which way would you go on WC:
    A) Mee, Chalobah/Carroll (4th mid), Lukaku
    B) Alonso, Pogba, Abraham

    1. Tommyg
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      With A you gain a captain but with b you gain overall points.

      Flip a coin.

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      B

    3. FC nelo
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Looking at that I think B will give you more points. Alonso/Pogba you will play each week without a doubt.

    4. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      B.

  13. Reiko
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Is there any possibility I will feature in Season 8?

    1. Chenku╰☆╮
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      No

      1. Reiko
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        *Disappointed*

  14. The Mighty Whites
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Steven Davis or Atsu?

    1. The Mighty Whites
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      or Fernandinho?

    2. Chenku╰☆╮
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Davis fixtures

    3. Leeds-Utd
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Atsu.

    4. Jam0sh
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Atsu

  15. Champione
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Play one
    A) PVA
    B) Mee
    C) Carroll

    1. Reiko
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Mee

      1. Champione
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        cheers

  16. rnrd
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    what is your opinion on knockaert ?
    Fixtures look quite good

    1. Champione
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      don't think Brighton will score many goals personally. Prefer Ritchie

  17. FC nelo
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Going Kane less, what do you think of this for a WC?
    Going for 4,5s in the back to get a strong front 7.

    Foster
    Dunk / Mee / Naughton
    D. Silva / Miki / Eriksen / Salah
    Morata / Lukaku / Firmino

    (Elliott / Carroll / Schindler / Mbemba)

    Is this enough to not play Kane, or is he essential?

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Too weak at the back and D.Silva will prob start seeing some random rotation soon enough

      1. FC nelo
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Okey, yes, Silva is the one I am not sure about. Might upgrade Morata to Kane, downgrade Alli and upgrade a 4,5 to Alonso instead.
        Although, a week back I don't mind, thinking that rotating five players at the back to provide a strong front seven can be the way to go. Unless you have someone like Alonso.

    2. Reiko
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      D.Silva may lose minutes around CL time.

    3. LC1
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Downgrade Silva and upgrade some defenders

  18. Elwood
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Will there be a scoutcast today - no Hot topic yet.

    1. IRBOX âš½
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Yes. Get excited

    2. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Knowing Jonty he's probably waiting for the new article.

  19. Jam0sh
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Which one would you play?

    A) T.Carroll (NEW)
    B) Fraser (ars)
    C) Suttner (WBA)

    1. Goat
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Similar for me I'm going with carroll

    2. IRBOX âš½
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      A

    3. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      C. Just.

  20. Erez Avni
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    any suggestions?

    Foster (Elliot)

    Alonso - Jones - Cedric (Mbemba, Rangel)

    Alli - Salah - Pogba - Atsu (Carroll)

    Lukaku - Firmino - morata

    Cheers!

    1. Bafana
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Great team, man! Maybe Lössl for Foster, but he's fixtures aren't great indeed

    2. FC Lackless [BALEGIUM]
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      you need a reliable bench...good team though

    3. FC nelo
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I'd downgrade Cedric to a 4,5 and upgrade Rangel to a 4,5 to be certain to have a playing back 3 for multieple weeks to come.
      Otherwise looks really nice.

  21. EWH2020
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Who to get for Trippier?

    Current Defence:

    Jones, Alonso, Zanka, Mbemba

    £6.5m to spend

    1. Gregor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Naughton.

    2. Elwood
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Bertrand or Cedric

    3. Bafana
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I got Kolasinac. Is nailed now Ox is gone. Arsenal defense sucks (but will get better), but at least he's gonna bring great attacking returns

    4. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Cedric?

  22. Elwood
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Excellent technical area post, cheers Prokoptas

  23. Swinner
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    I only have firminho and have been pleased to own fromday 1. After ditching kdb on WC I've gone double Manu - Pogba, Mak with Dele for value rather than Liverpool for a better lottery odds imo than Liv mids. Have Lukaka so high scoring Manu big hitters are covered. Lower price Manu miss enables Alonso. If Kane drops 0.3 and he also comes into play as a swop for Lukaka enabling Manu def cover from De Gea

    1. Feloh
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      dude!!!!

    2. Elwood
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      It doesn't look like Kane will go down 0.3

      He hasn't gone down 0.1 yet . . .

  24. klavan
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    On WC
    Foster, Elliot
    Alonso, Cedric, Jones, Naughton ( Lowe)
    Salah, Mikhi, Pogba, (RLC, Carroll)
    Kane, Morata, Firmino

    Is this midfield weak?

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Not if you plan to play 4-3-3 most weeks.

    2. Ode
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I think you're missing Alli/Eriksen, but it's still a good team imo

  25. Old Gregg
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    hello Y'all,

    advice appreciated.

    Henn
    Danilo-Stephens- Tripp
    Salah-Eriksen-Atsu-KDB*
    Abrahams-Kaku-Jesus

    Elliott-T Carroll-Suttner-Mariappa

    Will transfer - KDB > Mhki.

    This will leave me 3.2 in the bank.

    Is it worth a -4 for a further transfer.

    Danilo > Blind/Jones - Hegazi/Evans/Gibbs. Any one else?. I would be tempted by Alonso but I think I want to do - Abraham > Firmino next week.

  26. Ode
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    On a wild card, which do you think is the best option:

    A) Double Spurs mids & no Kane
    B) Double ManU mids & no Lukaku
    C) Lukaku & Kane, but rest of the team suffers

    1. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      C for me. Back up of A.

    2. Heavy Data
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      This is exactly the thing i was looking at yesterday. Looking at the last 3 games the mids for both United and Spurs have outscored the striker by some substantial points. I have toyed with the idea of going Alli-Eriksen-Pogba-Miki-Salah in midfield with Firminio and Mounie up front. Its a difficult decision to make. Having Lukaku and Kane up front really does ruin the rest of the team. In order for me to have Kane and Lukaku i end up having a bench made of non playing players just to make the funds. Tough choices.

  27. The Mighty Whites
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Which defender to get out of Simpson, Hudds defender or Brighton defender?

    1. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Brighton, purely for the fixtures.

    2. F4L
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      The way Huds are playing, probably one of them lot

    3. Ode
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Dunk

  28. bangers and M*A*S*H
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    A) Firmino & Pogba
    B) Lukaku & Carroll

    Caroll will be rotated

    got Mane if that matters.

    1. F4L
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      A

    2. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Feel A will get more points in the long term.

  29. F4L
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    I've come to the realisation that Pogba is just pretty awful at finishing. Needs to work on his shooting

    1. Ode
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      He is amazing at shooting, have you seen his long shot goals when he was at Juventus?