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Heading into the 2017/18 season, the Fantasy Premier League reclassification of Roberto Firmino from midfielder to forward was a source of much chatter.

Three Gameweeks in and Firmino has made fools of those of us who shied away.

The Brazilian sits joint-top in the overall standings on 26 points, having notched two goals, a pair assists, and twice taken home a maximum bonus points haul. Indeed, only Manchester United’s Henrikh Mkhitaryan (106) leads Firmino (101) in the Bonus Points System (BPS) to date.

Over this international break, interest in the Liverpool man has been understandably high. He has experienced one price hike already (from 8.5 to 8.6), and could possibly rise again between now and the Gameweek 4 deadline.

With Liverpool in rampant form – as evidenced by last week’s 4-0 demolition of Arsenal – Firmino offers managers an opportunity to save valuable funds by downgrading a premium forward option to a lower-priced alternative who has hitherto managed to outperform his more expensive rivals.

Here in the Technical Area, we thought that this week represented a good opportunity to dig into Firmino’s game in greater depth.

Specifically, we will be exploring how his profile compares to that of other FPL forwards and whether that early-season form can continue as the campaign unfolds.

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  1. Corona Macallan
    9 years, 1 month ago

    If u had to keep one of Luka or Kane in ur team who would it be

    1. MTPockets
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Lukaku

    2. Rainer
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Kane.

    3. thepeen555
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Kaku

    4. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Lukaku...double up on Utd attack when the going is good

    5. Fantasy Gold
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Harry

    6. Syd.
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Kane will come good

      1. Dr Dream
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Aye. But that's not the same as Lukaku will go bad.

      2. thepeen555
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I'm sure nobody doubts he will but you can't always have both

    7. More Tragic
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Harry, he's a goalscoring machine.

    8. Cojiro
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Lukaku but I'm keeping both

    9. Business Cat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      It's Lukaku all the way at the minute.

      Alli looks to be the Spurs player of choice...not Kane.

      Kane's awful tonight. Alli's by far England's best player.

      1. The Big Fella
        9 years, 1 month ago

        This^ plus Alli is banned from the CL so will be fresher for the Premier League

  2. Cojiro
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Don't want to wildcard. Your thoughts/ priorities pls. 1FT 1.0 ITB

    Foster
    Clark/ Stephens/ Mee
    KDB/ Pogba/ Willian/ Mooy
    Lukaku/ Kane/ Gabbi

    Eliott// Carrol/ Danilo/ Ake

    1. Bury94
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I'd take out KDB for Alli/Eriksen/Salah/Mane. Whichever one of those you prefer

      1. Cojiro
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I was thinking of waiting 1 more week as I want salah but don't fancy them away to city

        1. Bury94
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Liverpool can score against anyone, they usually do better against top 6 teams

          1. Cojiro
            9 years, 1 month ago

            You're not wrong

    2. MTPockets
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Danilo/KDB

      1. Cojiro
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Tempted by Danilo> Davies

  3. Pigeon
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Could anyone tell me who got the lowest score in a gameweek in FPL history? First one that comes to mind is Walters lol

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      9 years, 1 month ago

      Think a Wigan defender got -6

      1. Miguel Sanchez
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Gary Caldwell got sent off when Chelsea scored 8 to win the title

    2. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      That guy who TC Cahill gameweek 1 maybe

      1. Pigeon
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Sorry, I meant an actual player

  4. Kuqi Monster
    9 years, 1 month ago

    7/10 of the hot topics are jonty's, is this really what scout intended for this feature of the site?

    I understood that it was to flag posts by the community to encourage longer and more in-depth discussion?

    Not knocking any of current hot topics, genuine questions.

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      9 years, 1 month ago

      International break = RMWCT.

      1. Business Cat
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Got any grapes? 😉

        1. Fantasy Gold
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Waddle waddle, and then he waddled away

        2. Lawrø
          9 years, 1 month ago

          A duck walked up to a lemonade stand... 😉

      2. Kuqi Monster
        9 years, 1 month ago

        International break = perfect time for decent discussion

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          9 years, 1 month ago

          Got any examples during this break?

          1. Kuqi Monster
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Yep plenty, shall I direct them to jonty's?

            1. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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              9 years, 1 month ago

              Did you flag any?

    2. Fantasy Gold
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Jonty's hot topics do generate some decent discussions on here.

      Its a sea of gravless RMWCTs atm so I welcome them

      1. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Only because the current feckless couldn't start a decent conversation if their life depended on it.
        *sighs, logs off*

      2. Epic Fail
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Of course they generate discussions. They are hot topics. If this is made in to a hot topic it will also generate discussion.

        1. Fantasy Gold
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Well yeah, obviously.

          But if somebody bothered posting something decent and worthwhile and it got flagged then I'm sure it would become a hot topic.

          Not much quality around atm is there

    3. J0E
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      9 years, 1 month ago

      If anyone sees something interesting that could be hot topiced do flag it.

      If you don't see something then have a think about the current issues facing fantasy managers and post something about that to generate a discussion.

      Also use your vote wisely. Every morning I go through the overnight posts in search of popular and interesting topics - via the rating search.

    1. Pigeon
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I love their twitter haha

  5. jm2126
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Current Team:

    DDG | Elliot
    Bertrand Dawson Danilo | Mee Long
    Salah Eriksen Willian Mooy | Carroll
    Kane Lukaku Rodriguez

    Thinking of Willian and Danilo ------> Mkitaryan and Clark due to both Willian and Danilo rotation risk

    Any other suggestions of who to transfer them to?

    1. Bury94
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Possibly Naughton instead of Clark

      1. jm2126
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I originally thought naughton but he will be rotating with Mee so I need a 4.5 with a good first 3 fixtures which is newcastle

  6. Scotty B
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Fabianski
    Cedric Mee Jones Alonso
    Salah Pogba Eriksen
    Morata Lukaku Firmino

    Elliot Carroll Chalobah Mbemba

    WC team good to go?

    1. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Yes

  7. thepeen555
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Bring on Defoe he will get England a goal

  8. Rainer
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Did the Ox come with a receipt?

    1. Business Cat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Came free with the box of cereal

    2. thepeen555
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Lol nope no take backs

    3. thepeen555
      9 years, 1 month ago

      How funny would that be a full refund within 14 days of purchase

    4. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Was thinking the same about Joe Hart 🙂

      1. Rainer
        9 years, 1 month ago

        When buying Joe Hart you have to tick a box to acknowledge you're buying faulty goods.

    5. Fantasy Gold
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Nah non-refundable.

      Wenger is still laughing now

  9. Harper_
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Valencia to Alonso, KDB to Mkhi -4?

    Already have Pogba and Lukaku but might upgrade Lukaku to Kane the following gameweek.

    1. AllanM
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Not a worth a hit

  10. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Hart made a save 😯

    1. thepeen555
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I'm in shock

    2. Business Cat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Essential 😎

    3. Fantasy Gold
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Woah

    4. LǝgleSs e|even
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Cmon Hart, Make City Great Again!

  11. bojack
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Lovely attacking move from Slovakia.

  12. Dr Dream
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Fabulous move by Slovakia. Deserved a goal.

  13. The Big Fella
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Is having both Firmino and Salah too much Liverpool?

    1. thepeen555
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Yeah

    2. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Absolutely not..but be weary of rotation this week, Firmino coming back from Brazil and Champions league midweek

      1. The Big Fella
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Good points. I was thinking of getting both this week and then swapping Salah out for Sigurdsson when Everton's fixtures get better in 2-3 GW

  14. EL_FENOMENO
    9 years, 1 month ago

    3-4-3
    a) Foster
    Kola Cedric Jones
    Alli Salah Pogba Brady
    FIrmino Morata Lukaku

    Elliot Naughton Mbemba TC

    4-4-2
    b) Foster
    Kola Cedric Jones Naughton
    Hazard Salah Pogba Brady
    Kane Lukaku

  15. More Tragic
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Harry Rashford scores

  16. thepeen555
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Good goal rashford

  17. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    9 years, 1 month ago

    Rashford winner

  18. Miguel Sanchez
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Rashford goal

  19. Fantasy Gold
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Wow. Marcus Rashfords 7,000th greedy potshot flies into the net.

    Law of averages...

    1. laplana
      9 years, 1 month ago

      He could retire without every scoring again and the English media will claim he's word class.

    2. Bob.
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A bit of quality that England need

      1. Corgz Dark side of the Loon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Please take Kane off and bring on Vardy.....the game is screeming out for him and Kane looks anxious

  20. laplana
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Cracking from Rashford, such an enjoyable player, quality.

    1. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Ok, that might be actually funny. 😉

      1. laplana
        9 years, 1 month ago

        😆

  21. Syd.
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Marcus

  22. FPL ZB
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    9 years, 1 month ago

    Rashford has a goal, an assist, a minus goal, all sorts

    1. thepeen555
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Essential

  23. FPL ZB
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    9 years, 1 month ago

    He's still just a younger Raheem Sterling

  24. bojack
    9 years, 1 month ago

    I think I was probably spoiled with the teams of '90, '96 - '98, and '02 - '04.

    Should just be glad we usually qualify.

    1. Harper_
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      We have plenty of good players. It's just the overall quality at international level has increased and we haven't adapted.

      1. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 1 month ago

        You DON'T have plenty of good players.
        Until you recognise this then you won't be able to deal with the problem.

        1. Gnu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Actually, what you need more than anything else is a quality, free thinking coach/manager.
          That would be the start of Englands recovery but I honestly can't think one of one (English)

          1. Lawrø
            9 years, 1 month ago

            I'd go for Brendan Rodgers (yes, I know he's not English)

          2. Harper_
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Exactly. You can change the manager and you can change the tactics and the style of play but you only have a certain number of players to work with. We can't just wait and hope that the next English Messi comes along weve got to work it out now and createn a team that is very well rounded and competitive.

        2. bojack
          9 years, 1 month ago

          This.

          Not a single one of these players, as much as I like Rashford, Kane, Alli etc., would have made the '96 team. They'd probably have struggled to make the '98 team too.

          1. Business Cat
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            9 years, 1 month ago

            I don't know...Darren Anderton wasn't amazing 🙂

            1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              9 years, 1 month ago

              you writing that pulled his hamstring

            2. Business Cat
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              9 years, 1 month ago

              David Batty in '98 was far from great.

              1. bojack
                9 years, 1 month ago

                "Will he score, Kevin?"

                "Yes"

                "And he's missed"

            3. bojack
              9 years, 1 month ago

              😆

          2. fedolefan
            9 years, 1 month ago

            The three you've mentioned are all under 24 though.

            1. bojack
              9 years, 1 month ago

              I think this is part of it - lack of experience and often leadership is an issue for me.

              Where's the Adams, Shearer, or Beckham like character.

              Defensively as well, Cahill often looks poor for England. He's hardly Ferdinand, Campbell etc.

              1. Business Cat
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                9 years, 1 month ago

                ...we're still waiting for Henderson to turn into the new Stevie G...but he never will.

              2. fedolefan
                9 years, 1 month ago

                I think football's changed though. With the salaries these guys make, and the over emphasis on the league titles, a loss in a WC is just a stumble and a bounce back in the league is apparently enough. No one seems to take losses personally enough at the international level.

        3. Bob.
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Yeah the only real quality players in the team are Rashford, Ali and Kane. Maybe Sterling too.

        4. Harper_
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          9 years, 1 month ago

          I disagree. Most international teams would love to have the kind of player pool that we have. He problem is tactics, we are too slow on the ball and never ruthless enough, something which the past green managers have not tried to address.

          1. Gnu
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            9 years, 1 month ago

            and there in lies your problem, you can't or refuse to see the problem.

            1. Harper_
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Well it's not my problem, it's the managers and he can only work with what's he's got. Which is why I keep saying that tactics are what's at fault and why we are always so fricking slow when we play.

              1. Hibbo
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                9 years, 1 month ago

                That pool of current English players is brutally shite.

                1. Harper_
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  9 years, 1 month ago

                  Nah. I just think it's the results and the way we play that convince people that they're shite when they are actually very decent.

                2. fedolefan
                  9 years, 1 month ago

                  Compared to previous generations, yes. But are any of the current national teams actually that great? Germany, France, Brazil, Argentina, Portugal are all good, but can be turned over on any given day I think. I mean, what Germany did to Brazil was unfathomable in any era.

    2. Business Cat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      We always seem to do well at U21 etc...but the senior team is perpetually gash.

      The conveyor belt doesn't work.

    3. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Weren't we all.

      Give me Roy Keane, Paul McGrath and John Aldridge.

      1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 1 month ago

        i grew up with Southall, Ratcliffe, Speed, Hughes, Rush et al.
        How we never reached anything is a travesty!

        1. Hibbo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Good players all the same! Saw Speed in Alicante airport a few years before be died.

          I've just depressed myself.

          Duff and Robbie Keane. 🙁

      2. bojack
        9 years, 1 month ago

        That win against Italy in '94.

        1. Hibbo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Glory days.

          I was in my PJs I was allowed to stay up late for the game. 😆

          Football was football then.

          1. bojack
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Magic!

            I remember proudly announcing to my dad I'd be supporting Ireland. He didn't really react. 😆

          2. Business Cat
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            9 years, 1 month ago

            That Diana Ross penalty kick was epic!

      3. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Souness, Dalglish, Cooper, Hansen, Robertson.... the list goes on and all from the same era and team so no Bremner, Law, Baxter, Johnstone, Henderson.
        Happy days never to be repeated.,

        1. Hibbo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          9 years, 1 month ago

          That's some list of players!

  25. thepeen555
    9 years, 1 month ago

    How long till Kane subbed off? I say 72 min mark

    1. Epic Fail
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Full 90

  26. nkhoughton
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Best midfielder 9.3 or less, I own Pogba and Salah already

    1. thepeen555
      9 years, 1 month ago

      The ox

    2. FPL ZB
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      9 years, 1 month ago

      eric dier

    3. ryacoo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Mkhi

    4. Business Cat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Mkhi, David Silva.

      Maybe Coutinho if he comes back and slots right in.

      Maybe even Mahrez now he's staying.

    5. RAFA THE GAFFA
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Mhiki. Coutinho in few weeks probably

  27. The Overthinker
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Cannot see the rashford haters now? Where have you all gone ?

    1 goal and 1 assist 🙂

    1. Davido989
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Can't be counting assists for the opposition.

    2. KingNidge
      9 years, 1 month ago

      His assist for Kane in the last game was sublime too

      No one claiming the kid is a world beater or anything he's still raw but he sure deserves his starting position in this England team

  28. bojack
    9 years, 1 month ago

    I love to watch Vardy, surely time for him soon against tired legs and a team which needs a goal.

    1. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      *Welbeck

    2. Rainer
      9 years, 1 month ago

      The Kane kid needs to come off too, he's out of his depth at this level.

  29. RAFA THE GAFFA
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Just seen Super Sunday is Burnley - Palace then Swansea - Newcastle! I'm a toon fan but must admit that is the worst!! 😆

    1. Davido989
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I have 3 in those games. Potentially 4.

      1. RAFA THE GAFFA
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Probably both be 0-0 mate

    2. thepeen555
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Gotta give there time to all matches lol

      1. RAFA THE GAFFA
        9 years, 1 month ago

        We're always on to be fair! A lot more than most

    3. Rainer
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Seeing Mee score will justify it being called Super Sunday!